A reliable car

[UkrainianAmerican]

If you had 2-4 grand to spend on your first car what would it be. It is not going to be customised or 'modded' and it needs to be pretty reliable as far as engine and transmission goes.
THanks.

[Moledet]

The chicks magnet:
http://www.cvol.net/wheels/smart.jpg


















j/k
I have no answer to your question so I posted this car.

[UkrainianAmerican]

The chicks magnet:
http://www.cvol.net/wheels/smart.jpg


















j/k
I have no answer to your question so I posted this car.
I saw those cars in Paris. I rather ride the 2 or 5 train then.

[WolverineBlue]

Toyotas are very reliable. I have a 4Runner that kicks a lot of ass reliability-wise.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Toyotas are very reliable. I have a 4Runner that kicks a lot of ass reliability-wise.
How old do they get before they get into the 3 grand range?
Thanks.

[perdurabo]

maybe veeeery old porsche? my friend had 928 10yrs old but very good car fast good breaks transmision motor etc...
If you have time you could buy some kind of old sport car and renovate it :)

[UkrainianAmerican]

maybe veeeery old porsche? my friend had 928 10yrs old but very good car fast good breaks transmision motor etc...
If you have time you could buy some kind of old sport car and renovate it :)
ARGH!
I dont think 4 greand is going to be enough for a WORKING porshe.

[Javehn]

Shkoda , after 94 (not Furman !!) . Chip and reliable .

[UkrainianAmerican]

Shkoda , after 94 (not Furman !!) . Chip and reliable .
Ehh, hard to find Skodas in the States, much less replacement parts if I ever will beed it. :(

[Vance]

maybe veeeery old porsche? my friend had 928 10yrs old but very good car fast good breaks transmision motor etc...
If you have time you could buy some kind of old sport car and renovate it :)
ARGH!
I dont think 4 greand is going to be enough for a WORKING porshe.
4 grand will by you a seat or two, and that cool emblem on the front. That's about it.

[Javehn]

Whatis the status of European cars in US ? Are they popular ? What cars are preffered there ?
My personall preffered car is Rover (and by accident , that's what i'm riding on :) . Thought it's expensive to keep , and not very popular , incase I will have to sell it ) .

[UkrainianAmerican]

maybe veeeery old porsche? my friend had 928 10yrs old but very good car fast good breaks transmision motor etc...
If you have time you could buy some kind of old sport car and renovate it :)
ARGH!
I dont think 4 greand is going to be enough for a WORKING porshe.
4 grand will by you a seat or two, and that cool emblem on the front. That's about it.
exactly! :lol:

[WolverineBlue]

Toyotas are very reliable. I have a 4Runner that kicks a lot of ass reliability-wise.
How old do they get before they get into the 3 grand range?
Thanks.

You will need to consult with the local Latino community -- they love their Toyotas.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Whatis the status of European cars in US ? Are they popular ? What cars are preffered there ?
My personall preffered car is Rover (and by accident , that's what i'm riding on :) . Thought it's expensive to keep , and not very popular , incase I will have to sell it ) .
Well the German cars are of course in high regard, be it mercedes, Beemer, or Volkswagen. Audi is get more and more popular too.
However there are no small eurocars, that are popular in France.
Most of the cars are Japanese, or American.

[Vance]

My dad owns a 2001 4Runner. Cost him in the high 20s- low 30s range.

[perdurabo]

maybe veeeery old porsche? my friend had 928 10yrs old but very good car fast good breaks transmision motor etc...
If you have time you could buy some kind of old sport car and renovate it :)
ARGH!
I dont think 4 greand is going to be enough for a WORKING porshe.
4 grand will by you a seat or two, and that cool emblem on the front. That's about it.
exactly! :lol:
WOW in Poland 20yr old porshe 911 that needs work its about 10 000$
but 928 924 944 that have 8- 15 yrs are about 3 000$ ....

[Herrmannek]

http://www.melex.com.pl/img/modele-traktor.jpg

[Moledet]

Japanese? Mazda. Maybe you will be able to find 323F in your price range (don't you have a magazine with price lists for every car?).

Honda (civic) is also great but I don't think that they are cheap.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Japanese? Mazda. Maybe you will be able to find 323F in your price range (don't you have a magazine with price lists for every car?).

Honda (civic) is also great but I don't think that they are cheap.
Hmm, I sorta forgot about Mazda. I will look em up. Thanks! woot

[Javehn]

I hate American cars. They arebig and eating fuel like mofos . Think about Corean cars also - KIA . They are improved on their quality from last years , but still have fairly low price .

[UkrainianAmerican]

I hate Americancars. They arebig and eating fuel like mofos . Think about Corean cars also - KIA . They are improved , but still have fairly low price .
KIA? EWWWWWWWWW!
Maybe Hyandai, but Kia is just a complete POS.

[Javehn]

They are improving dude ... Don't say no until you tried it .

How about Hyundai ?

[UkrainianAmerican]

They are improving dude ... Don't say no until you tried it .
I really dont want to deal with Korean stuff. I rented a 2001 Hyndai Elantra for a few days, and it felt like a 20 yearold Zhiguli my parents had in Ukraine. :lol:

[Ratamacue]

KIA = Killed in Action.

[UkrainianAmerican]

KIA = Killed in Action.
Yup!

[Javehn]

And right here you opened a new subject : How about some good old Lada ? :lol:

Well , now this is really complete POS (thought it can handle the roughest piece of **** road) .

[WolverineBlue]

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/551_1087756203_jaguar_s_christian_klien.jpg

[UkrainianAmerican]

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/551_1087756203_jaguar_s_christian_klien.jpg
Focus on the 3 grand range :)

[Vance]

Yeah that's more like $300,000.

[Javehn]

Well , if you want quality , only European car (but don't touch Renault with 5 foot stick , this is **** , and expensive one ) . There is a catch , they are pretty expensive (too ****ing expensive over our place :roll: ) , but they do have good quality . Specialy British cars , they also have strong chasis .

[Herrmannek]

Buy something you will know how to repair with basic tools it can be quite fun... Cars with carburetors and mechanical spark ?distributors/divider? are ze best. Take with you spare fuzes and you can piss on nearby nuclear explosions..This is what I call relliability.. And don't believe in car shops profesionalism if they will not ****-up something that wasn't broken they will pull you on huge money even they did nothing...

[Javehn]

Yea , get a fuсking bike .

[perdurabo]

Maybe french car? Reanult? Citroen? Peugeot? they should have low prices in USA :)
VW? BMW? MB? .... Seat! great car i had test ride in my firends Seat Leon CupraR this was perfect! dont look for Fiat they are the ****iest cars ever made but Skoda is good i supose you colud buy old Felicia or Favorit.

[Herrmannek]

Yea , get a fuсking bike .

If you find one with roof :)

[Javehn]

Maybe french car? Reanult? Citroen? Peugeot? they should have low prices in USA :)
VW? BMW? MB? .... Seat! great car i had test ride in my firends Seat Leon CupraR this was perfect! dont look for Fiat they are the ****iest cars ever made but Skoda is good i supose you colud buy old Felicia or Favorit.

Fiat is not that bad , dude . They only have serious mottor problems . :) No , they actually have diesent cars , but after 5 years , you will have a problem every week- with a mottor .
My fother had Fiat Uno 60 , it worked like a charm . It has very good exellaration rate (and like I said , later you will pay for it ) .

[Lt_Crooks]

hey i would suggest european car. I would say you can get a 3 series BMW for around 3-4 grand with say 100,000 (which is nothing on a bmw) they are very reliable run past 300,000 miles (i know personally) the only thing that can hurt you are the replacement parts! Sort of on the high side. but my dad used to get them from a junkyard. I would say look at 325is, 325i, 318is,318i 1992-1995 . good luck

www.autotrader.com < great website for finding cars in your near by

[Mark Sman]

$3500 buy it now, In Queens. Auction current at $1625. Use esnipe if you go the bid route.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6162&item=2482138417&rd=1
Retired 95 Caprice police car.
Came stock with 5.7L (vroom) LT1, Posi, and a similar handling package to the Impala SS of that year.

These cars are notorious for running forever, and they are very common in NY. Low profile don't ya know.

If you are actually interested I can tell you a hell of alot about these types of cars. I can also tell you a little about this vehicle in particular just from the pics, and I know some good questions to check up on if you went and looked at it.

http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/forum2002/default.asp

[Herrmannek]

Maybe french car? Reanult? Citroen? Peugeot? they should have low prices in USA :)
VW? BMW? MB? .... Seat! great car i had test ride in my firends Seat Leon CupraR this was perfect! dont look for Fiat they are the ****iest cars ever made but Skoda is good i supose you colud buy old Felicia or Favorit.

Fiat is not that bad , dude . They only have serious mottor problems . :) No , they actually have diesent cars , but after 5 years , you will have a problem every week- with a mottor .

I to be exact my parents have fiat... 20 years old still kickin...engine still okey but leaks a little :)

[perdurabo]

Maybe french car? Reanult? Citroen? Peugeot? they should have low prices in USA :)
VW? BMW? MB? .... Seat! great car i had test ride in my firends Seat Leon CupraR this was perfect! dont look for Fiat they are the ****iest cars ever made but Skoda is good i supose you colud buy old Felicia or Favorit.

Fiat is not that bad , dude . They only have serious mottor problems . :) No , they actually have diesent cars , but after 5 years , you will have a problem every week- with a mottor .
My fother had Fiat Uno 60 , it worked like a charm . It has very good exellaration rate (and like I said , later you will pay for it ) .
he needs a car for 3grands you cant buy new Fiat for that.
Renault 19 TD with 3doors very good car and prabably cheap too

[Herrmannek]

THis fiat is 20 years old but was designed circa 70's

[Lt_Crooks]

$3500 buy it now, In Queens. Auction current at $1625. Use esnipe if you go the bid route.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6162&item=2482138417&rd=1
Retired 95 Caprice police car.
Came stock with 5.7L (vroom) LT1, Posi, and a similar handling package to the Impala SS of that year.

These cars are notorious for running forever, and they are very common in NY. Low profile don't ya know.

The Caprice! GAS GUZZLER !!!!! 8 cylinder car , I would suggest the bmw 325 is 6 cylinder = 180 hp or the bmw 318 is 4 cylinder=140hp both good on fuel , and plenty of power btw if you get a standard car it saves on fuel woot

[Mark Sman]

The Caprice! GAS GUZZLER !

True, in the city, in proper tune, you should expect about 14-16 mpg.

But the engine can't be killed. It will run forever. You will save un heepen loaden of der banken if you aren't paying for BMW parts. Which you will be paying for if you buy a BMW.


plenty of power

pshaw

[UkrainianAmerican]

$3500 buy it now, In Queens. Auction current at $1625. Use esnipe if you go the bid route.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6162&item=2482138417&rd=1
Retired 95 Caprice police car.
Came stock with 5.7L (vroom) LT1, Posi, and a similar handling package to the Impala SS of that year.

These cars are notorious for running forever, and they are very common in NY. Low profile don't ya know.

If you are actually interested I can tell you a hell of alot about these types of cars. I can also tell you a little about this vehicle in particular just from the pics, and I know some good questions to check up on if you went and looked at it.

http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/forum2002/default.asp
Wow, police edition, thats fuging awesome!
I can drive my crew aroud, and if some **** happens I will sound the sireen rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[Javehn]

Police cars are **** , period . Never buy government vehicles .

[Mark Sman]

There are alot of these retied PD cars available. the 1994-96 Chevrolet Caprice with the 9C1 and LT! package is the best.

Ford packages there Clown-Dic cop cars as P71. However they are way slower, and get about the same mileage. They also don't come stock with Posi.

They are however, as amazing as this sounds, also very reliable.

If you get them shortly after they exit fleet, they should still be in good maintenance.

Sometimes a little record hunting and friendly talk can even get you the shops maintenance records for that vehicle.

[UkrainianAmerican]

WHat do you guys think of this beemah?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2482586776&category=6007

[Mark Sman]

Police cars are **** , period . Never buy government vehicles .

Ehhhh. Incorrect, but thanks for playing.

These particular vehicles have a very well deserved rep.

Some of them are exiting PD service way late because they hate to turn them in, knowing they will be replaced by Crown Vics.

Mine, when it was stock, would lite both tires on a rolling start at 15 mph. Off the line, you can smoke em till they pop. And you can hammer on them like that dayafterdayafterday.

HD trans and oil cooler, increased volume radiator = good. Doesn't take much $$ to make the LT1 the proper 300 HP engine it was meant to be either.

[ChuckThunder]

Jeeps will last pretty much forever.

http://motors.listings.ebay.com/Jeep_Wrangler_W0QQbsZSearchQQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR2QQgotopageZQQregionZ34QQsacategoryZ6285QQsamotorscategorymapZ6001QQsapricehiZQQsapriceloZQQsaregionZ34QQsatitleZQQsbrftogZ1QQsocmdZListingItemListQQsocolumnlayoutZ3QQsocomparecolumnlayoutZ1QQsofocusZbsQ QsorecordsperpageZ50QQsosortorderZ2QQsosortpropertyZ2QQsotrZ2

[Mark Sman]

this beemah?

Good price, shipping from Texas to NY will be about $700

[Lt_Crooks]

HELL YES hamann bodykit YES! M3 wheels YES! Mp3 YES! standard YES! I WOULD DEFINITELY go for it if I would not have to wait to october to get a car . bid bid bid , the only problem maybe the shipping will run about 600$

[FDF_Hemppis]

Take it! I'd take a bmw over any american car, any day. (that excludes a 60's mustang...*drool*)

[Mark Sman]

VIN: WBABF3329REF45247
Year/Make/Model: 1994 BMW 325IS
Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 2.5L L6 SFI 24V DOHC
Manufactured In: GERMANY
Search Results: 17 records found in our database

17 records,. Jesus thats alot. Before you bid, get the full report. I think its like $20. Worth it.

http://carfax.com/

[Mark Sman]

Also, no matter what. If you are going to bid on a car on ebay use esnipe.

Obviously this doesn't incled buy it now options.

Using esnipe avoids a bidding war with someone else and keeps the price lower.

[Freibier]

maybe veeeery old porsche? my friend had 928 10yrs old but very good car fast good breaks transmision motor etc...
If you have time you could buy some kind of old sport car and renovate it :)
ARGH!
I dont think 4 greand is going to be enough for a WORKING porshe.
4 grand will by you a seat or two, and that cool emblem on the front. That's about it.
exactly! :lol:
WOW in Poland 20yr old porshe 911 that needs work its about 10 000$
but 928 924 944 that have 8- 15 yrs are about 3 000$ ....
They're so cheap there because they were "borrowed" in Germany rofl rofl rofl






j/k p-)

[UkrainianAmerican]

Also, no matter what. If you are going to bid on a car on ebay use esnipe.

Obviously this doesn't incled buy it now options.

Using esnipe avoids a bidding war with someone else and keeps the price lower.
COuld you explain (or link to an explanation) about how it works? THANkS!

[Freibier]

$3k-4k gets you a 8-10 year old BMW 318i with less than 100000 miles in Germany

[Mark Sman]

http://esnipe.com/

You set up an acount.

You tell them what your max bid your willing to make is on what item.

You tell them how long before the auction closes you want them to bid. I think default is 4 seconds. I have a fast connection and set for 2 seconds.

Don't forget to check the car out on carfax.com

[Mark Sman]

I've gotten some ranting PO'd messages from people I've sniped stuff out from under.

"How the hell? What the heck?"

Muwahahahahahaaaaaaaa

Offer still stands to help with questions on the Caprice. Sorry, no knowledge of the Beemers. Hit the tech forums, or maybe someone here knows the stuff to check.

[Wilco]

F Body series Chevy Red Iroc
86
http://www.dmcarclub.com/members_pages/images/frank/FM%20IROC%203.jpg


http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/l/m/lmg232/85-IROC.jpg

They run for about 2000-4000 now adays. Very fast and nice car.


http://search.ebay.com/Iroc_Passenger-Vehicles_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR8QQsacategoryZ6001

[WolverineBlue]

Do not drive an IROC at high speeds during torrential downpours. I found out the hard way on I-75 driving back from spring break in Florida back to Ann Arbor.

[memphiz]

http://media.canadatrader.com/canadatrader/424/1162/1/04002.jpg
1928 Ford model A
$195.00 ;)

http://media.canadatrader.com/canadatrader/423/1230/1/76031.jpg

1980 PONTIAC TRANS AM , runs good, great investment car, needs restoration, $895. Drive home.

http://media.canadatrader.com/canadatrader/423/1199/1/73274.jpg

1989 TOYOTA CELICA, engine rebuild at 250000 kms, clutch brakes at same time, Needs work, 290,000 kms, $1,200.

http://media.canadatrader.com/canadatrader/419/1177/1/01007.jpg

1973 DODGE CHARGER , 360 V8, automatic, bucket console, good drive train, needs body work & paint, $1,300. Ph

http://media.canadatrader.com/canadatrader/422/9000/1/70579.jpg

1986 PONTIAC FIREBIRD, the car runs and looks great, V6, 2.8L automatic, rebuilt motor, asking $1,550 obo

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[Mark Sman]

F Body series Chevy Red Iroc 86
Do not get the 305 V8. Especially in this year.

350=good

305=nightmare

A small number of 350s were made in that year. More have been converted with engine swap. Sometimes poorly.

[mattnwnc03]

honda is pretty reliable, i have one it has 132000 miles on it , all i have replaced is a timing belt, destributer and battery.

[Wilco]

F Body series Chevy Red Iroc 86
Do not get the 305 V8. Especially in this year.

350=good

305=nightmare

A small number of 350s were made in that year. More have been converted with engine swap. Sometimes poorly.


We have an '86 305 and it's still running till this day ;)


After a new motor ofcourse.

[UkrainianAmerican]

I've gotten some ranting PO'd messages from people I've sniped stuff out from under.

"How the hell? What the heck?"

Muwahahahahahaaaaaaaa

Offer still stands to help with questions on the Caprice. Sorry, no knowledge of the Beemers. Hit the tech forums, or maybe someone here knows the stuff to check.
Ok, I am not a car expert, but the fact that it was a cop car kinda puts me off. I mean didnt the cops Abuse the living sh*t out of it?

[Durandal]

You should be able to roll a 1994-95 Ford Explorer for about 4K...my 1995 XLT was 5,900 in mint condition and low miles. Parts are plentiful, easy to do preventive maint, etc, etc...

Gas mileage is between 18 to 20 MPG though...

MUCH worse if you go four-wheeling...

Edit: Check out some early (87 to 94) Jeep Cherokees or maybe a late 80s Wagoneer. Definately under 4K on those. Parts a plenty and easy to work on also, except if you have to tear out the damn alternator...which is stacked under the airconditioner... *mutter*

[bloddyaxe]

http://www.fornbill.is/forsidumyndir/syn204.jpg
really nice car... actually the old president car here

http://www.fornbill.is/forsidumyndir/stod01.jpg
this one may be better...

http://www.fornbill.is/forsidumyndir/willys1.jpg
but this one is in a better condition


http://www.garage24.net/Garage24/24-16.jpg
this one is so cute,.., but it is a problem when on top of a glacier.,..

http://www.uazbuka.ru/gallery/img/gaz-69.jpg
This thing might be more practical.

and that willys jeep is actually not in a good condition... obviously

[Kitsune]

What about this:

http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/daimlerchrysler/smart/smart-roadster-99.htm

or this:

http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/daimlerchrysler/smart/smart-four-four/smart-four-four-03.htm ?





Should be in the price range you aked for.

[Operation Ivy]

U can find Acura Integras for about 3,000 to 5,000, years 90-96

Check these sites out
www.cars.com
www.autotrader.com
www.carmax.com (i dunno if theres a carmax in NY?)
www.bargin.com (very very cheap)

[Mark Sman]

Ok, I am not a car expert, but the fact that it was a cop car kinda puts me off. I mean didnt the cops Abuse the living sh*t out of it?

Yes and no. Depends what it was used for. In my experience, cars that have been poorly maintaned by regular drivers are more beat up than well maintained cars used for pursuit.

When something breaks in a cop car, it gets fixed by the garage. Cars that were used by supervisors, undercover and such are usually better. Cars that were driven by the fire department and agencies that don't usually run over curbs at speed are nice too.

DO not buy a car used by K9, or that left service and was then used by a cab company. Some cab companies do good maintenance, some do not.

And the Caprice 9C1 was built to take it.. It had steel rims, heavy suspension, extra strong and more body bushings for running over curbs. They handle better than the SS, but ride higher by an inch.

They had all the extra cooling to protect the engine, and it works.

If you are willing to swing a little wrench to keep oil and fluids up to date you can run them forever. You would also want to replace plugs, wires, the O2 sensors, the PCV valve, thermostat (with a hypertech 160 degree, same price) and the main belt at sometime in the near future (10,000 miles) because the car I linked too has 115k.

Maybe the EGR valve and solenid. Unless you can verify its maintenance records. Don't worry, that sounds like alot of stuff, but isn't. DO NOT replace the hoses. It came with green silicone hoses good to 300k or more. Expensive, but you can replace with regular cheapy ones if you have to.

That is maintenance stuff you should do for any car with 100k miles.

edit: Just saw the above. My buddies Acura Integra is indestructible. He abuses the hell out of it.

[Mark Sman]

These guys are local and can help. Yeah I know its LI, but I don't know of a Manhattan club. Probably is one though.

http://www.lisst.com/

For tech forum help, and parts these are you guys.
http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/forum2002/default.asp

http://www.impalasuperstore.com/naisso/superstore40/shopdisplaycategories.asp

a friend of mine got a 85 mercedes for 4500, automatic transmission,leather, 60,000 miles on it only...

[Mark Sman]

Thats low miles. And a good deal. I like Mercedes too.

You can convert the 5 cylinder Diesels to run off used cooking oil fairly easily. A little more difficult to run them up north though.


Iceland's president had a fat ride back in the day. I love it. Looks like you should hang out the window with a tommy gun and a bank bag.

[Jackel]

For that kind of money buy a Toyota. Everything eles in the same price range would be a turd on wheels. Trust me I have owned a few.

[Midtown]

My oldsmobile cutless cierra is a monster, I cant kill the thing. It doesnt always look great, but seriosly, I have drivin it into a shallow pond, offroading in downtown mpls, and it still lives thru every goddamn MN winter. ****er shoulda been dead a LONG time ago.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Ok, I am not a car expert, but the fact that it was a cop car kinda puts me off. I mean didnt the cops Abuse the living sh*t out of it?

Yes and no. Depends what it was used for. In my experience, cars that have been poorly maintaned by regular drivers are more beat up than well maintained cars used for pursuit.

When something breaks in a cop car, it gets fixed by the garage. Cars that were used by supervisors, undercover and such are usually better. Cars that were driven by the fire department and agencies that don't usually run over curbs at speed are nice too.

DO not buy a car used by K9, or that left service and was then used by a cab company. Some cab companies do good maintenance, some do not.

And the Caprice 9C1 was built to take it.. It had steel rims, heavy suspension, extra strong and more body bushings for running over curbs. They handle better than the SS, but ride higher by an inch.

They had all the extra cooling to protect the engine, and it works.

If you are willing to swing a little wrench to keep oil and fluids up to date you can run them forever. You would also want to replace plugs, wires, the O2 sensors, the PCV valve, thermostat (with a hypertech 160 degree, same price) and the main belt at sometime in the near future (10,000 miles) because the car I linked too has 115k.

Maybe the EGR valve and solenid. Unless you can verify its maintenance records. Don't worry, that sounds like alot of stuff, but isn't. DO NOT replace the hoses. It came with green silicone hoses good to 300k or more. Expensive, but you can replace with regular cheapy ones if you have to.

That is maintenance stuff you should do for any car with 100k miles.

edit: Just saw the above. My buddies Acura Integra is indestructible. He abuses the hell out of it.
Aight thanks a lot!
Now, I just have to wait for the damn oil price to drop. A lot. :lol:

[Nondescript]

Ok here is a very boring piece of advice, by a Volvo 240 with a B23 engine. Those things just goes on, and on, and on, and on , and on. If something breaks you'll probably be able to fix it with a hammer and a screwdriver. But who am I trying to kidd here, it's a Volvo, you'll never have to fix it. It will also keep you on budget, you can by a nice example and still have enough left to by a nice stereo system.

So what do you say?

And yes I'm from Sweden.

[Abolith]

Simple, for under 4K go for a jeep. they are easy to work on, reliable, parts are dirt cheap and plentyful and best of all they all are 4x4's (unless you fins one of the special ordered ones)

I reconmend getting one with an I6 instead of a V6 or a 4cyl.

[Fintin]

chuch taylor convers all stars....best mode of transpertation money can by

[Durandal]

I reconmend getting one with an I6 instead of a V6 or a 4cyl.

Jeep straight 6 4.0L, one of the most reliable gasloine engines put into a 4x4..ever. And strong enough to pull something behind ya.

Jeep V4s suck ass. No two ways about it.

Been buying Jeeps for the past 15 years. 2 Cherokees, 3 various CJs...off road and on.

[SR15]

with ANY old car you will have to fix something,
so if you dont wanna pay arm and leg dont buy BMW or Mercedes.
if you need reliable car then you should look at toyota .

btw-
mazda 323 SUCK!!

[Nawlins]

with ANY old car you will have to fix something,
so if you dont wanna pay arm and leg dont buy BMW or Mercedes.
if you need reliable car then you should look at toyota .

btw-
mazda 323 SUCK!!

Toyota Corolla consistently wins top marks for reliability. I highly recommend it.

[Ratamacue]

with ANY old car you will have to fix something,
so if you dont wanna pay arm and leg dont buy BMW or Mercedes.
if you need reliable car then you should look at toyota .

btw-
mazda 323 SUCK!!

Toyota Corolla consistently wins top marks for reliability. I highly recommend it.
As much as it sounds like an RC car and goes about as fast, I love my Corolla.

[Nawlins]

with ANY old car you will have to fix something,
so if you dont wanna pay arm and leg dont buy BMW or Mercedes.
if you need reliable car then you should look at toyota .

btw-
mazda 323 SUCK!!

Toyota Corolla consistently wins top marks for reliability. I highly recommend it.
As much as it sounds like an RC car and goes about as fast, I love my Corolla.

Yeah... not for racing. But they'll last forever and hardly ever break. My dad had one for 10 years, it was great.

[digrar]

Corolla=bullet proof. Not very cool though.

[Ratamacue]

Mine has a stick, so that about doubles the cool factor...not that there's all that much to double. Anyway, the car runs, and will probably be running for a long time, and I didn't pay for it, so I'm perfectly content.

Summed up, if you want a car that's going to keep on running, get a Toyota. 'Nuff said.

[usa320]

Get a nissan, i have had one for like 6 years now and it works nice.

[Sergei]

KIA = Killed in Action.

FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily

[Sergei]

They are improving dude ... Don't say no until you tried it .
I really dont want to deal with Korean stuff. I rented a 2001 Hyndai Elantra for a few days, and it felt like a 20 yearold Zhiguli my parents had in Ukraine. :lol:
What are you talking man? I've driving KIA Sephia for 8 years and the only thing I have to change is oil and filters and mind that this is ukrainian roads after all :D

[Mark Sman]

Hey dude, that Caprice auction I pointed you to ended with the reverve not met. Now is the time to PM the guy. Set up a visit in Queens and maybe make him an offer. Trust me cash in hand may cary the day where eBay will not. I'd say $2,000.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6162&item=2482138417&rd=1

These things are fast for big cars, and they can take a hell of a beating.

[UkrainianAmerican]

They are improving dude ... Don't say no until you tried it .
I really dont want to deal with Korean stuff. I rented a 2001 Hyndai Elantra for a few days, and it felt like a 20 yearold Zhiguli my parents had in Ukraine. :lol:
What are you talking man? I've driving KIA Sephia for 8 years and the only thing I have to change is oil and filters and mind that this is ukrainian roads after all :D
Dude are you SERIOUS? How many miles/kilometers?
EDIT
O ****, I just looked at carpoint, and it has top relibility ratings!
Maybe its actually better then hyandai.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Hey dude, that Caprice auction I pointed you to ended with the reverve not met. Now is the time to PM the guy. Set up a visit in Queens and maybe make him an offer. Trust me cash in hand may cary the day where eBay will not. I'd say $2,000.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6162&item=2482138417&rd=1

These things are fast for big cars, and they can take a hell of a beating.
Ima try just that, cuz 2000 is exactly the funds I have right now, although I doubt hs gonna sell it for only 2.

[Mark Sman]

Excellent. A potential recruit into the Legion of Darkness that is GM B-body ownership.

I must go make burnt offering to John Moss.

Gotta find a Pinto.

OmmmmamonymultipointfuelinjectionOmmmm

[UkrainianAmerican]

Excellent. A potential recruit into the Legion of Darkness that is GM B-body ownership.

I must go make burnt offering to John Moss.

Gotta find a Pinto.

OmmmmamonymultipointfuelinjectionOmmmm
Hehehehehe,
Well thanks a lot for thew help man! :hug:

[MolliG]

http://www.barriesauto.com/inventory/20/0072d.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/hilux_broadband.ram (May take a while to load, so prob' best to Right-Click --> Save As...) Watch it, it's brilliant! :D

[Scrim]

I have a 1993 Honda Prelude I'll sell you for $2500. Ive had it ten years, never a single problem. 88 thousand miles. Dent in hood.
We just got an Acura MDX woot

[NcDeuce]

Not many cars say reliable like Hondas or Toyotas, particularly the 01 Civic and 02 Camry.

Used cars to avoid:
Chevy Blazer 95-02
Most Dodges
Pontiac Grand Am 95-02
Mazda B (4WD) Series 97-01

[Fintin]

stay clear of early satarns....they leak oil like the no other

[UkrainianAmerican]

I have a 1993 Honda Prelude I'll sell you for $2500. Ive had it ten years, never a single problem. 88 thousand miles. Dent in hood.
We just got an Acura MDX woot
CAn you PM me some pics?

[UkrainianAmerican]

http://www.barriesauto.com/inventory/20/0072d.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/hilux_broadband.ram (May take a while to load, so prob' best to Right-Click --> Save As...) Watch it, it's brilliant! :D
That video was SO SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[2Sheds_Jackson]

A couple of years back, I needed a 3rd car for commuting in Miami. So I bought a POS '87 Nissan Stanza for $1650.

I beat the poo out of that car for 2 years - never changed the oil...never even washed it. And it never ever broke. Everything just worked. Most reliable car I ever had - better even than several new American cars I've had. At the end of 2 years, I sold it for what I originally paid.

If you're looking for "value", steer clear of SUVs, 4x4s in general, and sports cars - you pay for the image of youth and an active lifestyle. If that's not important to you, don't pay for it. My .02