Prez Zings GOP Foe in a $timulating Talk

[Geezah]

President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.

"There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats," the official said. "We shouldn't let partisan politics derail what are very important things that need to get done."

That wasn't Obama's only jab at Republicans today.

In an exchange with Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) about the proposal, the president shot back: "I won," according to aides briefed on the meeting.

"I will trump you on that."

Not that Obama was gloating. He was just explaining that he aims to get his way on stimulus package and all other legislation, sources said, noting his unrivaled one-party control of both congressional chambers.

"We are experiencing an unprecedented economic crisis that has to be dealt with and dealt with rapidly," Obama said during the meeting.

Republicans say the $825 billion price tag is too big a burden for a nation crippled by debt and that it doesn't do enough to stimulate the economy by cutting taxes.

"You know, I'm concerned about the size of the package. And I'm concerned about some of the spending that's in there, [about] ... how you can spend hundreds of millions on contraceptives," House GOP Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) later said.

"How does that stimulate the economy?"

But White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs countered: "There was a lot of agreement in that room about the notion that we're facing an economic crisis unlike we've seen in quite some time ... that we must act quickly to stimulate the economy, create jobs, put money back in people's pockets."

Gibbs disagreed with those who called the meeting window dressing.

"The president is certainly going to listen to any ideas," he said.

"He will also go to Capitol Hill the beginning of next week to talk to Republican caucuses and solicit their input and their ideas."



Link (http://www.nypost.com/seven/01232009/news/politics/prez_zings_gop_foe_in_a_timulating_talk_151572.htm)

Amazing, the POTUS has no history of being bipartisan, but suddenly he expects the Republicans to kowtow and suddenly do what ever he says.
It doesn't work like that, but I'm sure this is just the start to warm up to push for the Fairness Doctrine to be applied.

[11 Bravo]

Oh grasshopper , you mistake the Messiah's arrogance for getting things done politics. The messiah get's what the messiah want's... it puts the lotion on it's skin.

[Invisigoth]

Link (http://www.nypost.com/seven/01232009/news/politics/prez_zings_gop_foe_in_a_timulating_talk_151572.htm)

Amazing, the POTUS has no history of being bipartisan

Is that so?

[DetailedEntrails]

First rule of Politics. Never acknowledge Rush Limbaugh you'll only make him stronger.

[philbob]

Is that so?
care to provide a counter

[brainplay]

Starting to really hate that word. Bipartisan. Its meaning keeps getting changed as every change of Congress. It used to mean comprimise while sacrificing as few principles as possible to come to an agreement. I mean, we vote people in to represent us on those principles, not to give the other side what it wants completely.

Since 2006 it seems to mean, conservatives bend over and cave in or else. Before that it was "let the dems come play too" because you bad mean people if you don't.

[Geezah]

care to provide a counter

Thank you, I would also like to see where I am wrong on this.

[LineDoggie]

Do Idiots really believe people just listen to Rush Limpballs all day and then follow his words to the letter?

I think I listened to him about 4 times in 10 years, and each time thought his pomposity was his worst point. I laugh when I hear that I must be getting my views from Limbaugh as though I am some Cult of Personality lemming.

[Geezah]

According to an account in the New York Post, President Barack Obama yesterday told Republican leaders, "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done." With George W. Bush now off the stage, it may be that Obama and some of his fellow Democrats view Limbaugh, and not John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, or any other elected official, as the true leader of the Republican opposition. This morning I asked Rush for his thoughts on all this, and here is his response:

There are two things going on here. One ****g of the Great Unifier's plan is to isolate elected Republicans from their voters and supporters by making the argument about me and not about his plan. He is hoping that these Republicans will also publicly denounce me and thus marginalize me. And who knows? Are ideological and philosophical ties enough to keep the GOP loyal to their voters? Meanwhile, the effort to foist all blame for this mess on the private sector continues unabated when most of the blame for this current debacle can be laid at the feet of the Congress and a couple of former presidents. And there is a strategic reason for this.

Secondly, here is a combo quote from the meeting:

"If we don't get this done we (the Democrats) could lose seats and I could lose re-election. But we can't let people like Rush Limbaugh stall this. That's how things don't get done in this town."

To make the argument about me instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. Obama's plan would buy votes for the Democrat Party, in the same way FDR's New Deal established majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule, and it would also simultaneously seriously damage any hope of future tax cuts. It would allow a majority of American voters to guarantee no taxes for themselves going forward. It would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy. Put simply, I believe his stimulus is aimed at re-establishing "eternal" power for the Democrat Party rather than stimulating the economy because anyone with a brain knows this is NOT how you stimulate the economy. If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of this TRILLION dollar debacle.

Obama was angry that Merrill Lynch used $1.2 million of TARP money to remodel an executive suite. Excuse me, but didn't Merrill have to hire a decorator and contractor? Didn't they have to buy the new furnishings? What's the difference in that and Merrill loaning that money to a decorator, contractor and goods supplier to remodel Warren Buffet's office? Either way, stimulus in the private sector occurs. Are we really at the point where the bad PR of Merrill getting a redecorated office in the process is reason to smear them? How much money will the Obamas spend redecorating the White House residence? Whose money will be spent? I have no problem with the Obamas redoing the place. It is tradition. 600 private jets flown by rich Democrats flew into the Inauguration. That's fine but the auto execs using theirs is a crime? In both instances, the people on those jets arrived in Washington wanting something from Washington, not just good will.

If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of the trillion dollar debacle.

One more thing, Byron. Your publication and website have documented Obama's ties to the teachings of Saul Alinksy while he was community organizing in Chicago. Here is Rule 13 of Alinksy's Rules for Radicals:

"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Link (http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTU5MjE3MmQ0NWU1Zjc1YzYyMDE1NzNmZmM2MzYxMmI=)

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[philbob]

Do Idiots really believe people just listen to Rush Limpballs all day and then follow his words to the letter?

I think I listened to him about 4 times in 10 years, and each time thought his pomposity was his worst point. I laugh when I hear that I must be getting my views from Limbaugh as though I am some Cult of Personality lemming.

The iorny is he is just as bad if not worse then Limbaugh seeing that Obama's entire movement is nothing more then a cult.

[I can't think of a name]

Dumb Move By Obama.

When you are President you try and stay above your critics. Obama mentions Rush by name whoops. Now how bad will it look if he tries to push the "fairness doctrine" Shutting Rush up?????

Also what if Bush named some leftist critic by name? Imagine the media backlash.

This also paints his cartoonish character of Republicans. He thinks they only listen to Rush and are not inundated by Leftist positions in every other form of Media. Their is no "Conservative Vacuum" where you never hear left wing opinions

[khaz]

Wow what sounds like an adult conversation was interupted by Obama.

[bigvig]

Wow what sounds like an adult conversation was interupted by Obama.
Yea..."I won" ???

Sounds only like a childish loser. It's funny seeing all the moron journalists trying to explain that stupid comment.

[Nano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/8m4C38msqlI&feature=related

Instead of copying my entire dissertation here is a brief video clip that encompasses some, but not all I have been researching on my spare time.
In simple terms Obama has no answers beyond covering it all by creating in the processes a chain reaction of bubbles. Deflation as we currently are experiencing(falling home prices,commodities,etc.) is a result of the market trying to reach equilibrium after the bursting of the financial scam.

Artificially keeping prices high through bank bailouts that fund not new productive business credit, but artificially high home prices is creating a second bubble from the air let out from the previous bubble bursting.
The only way I could ever take Obama serious is if he proposes deep cuts in the size of government permanently and reverses a 50+ year trend to ensnares the U.S. citizen/voter into servitude rather than freedom.

[brainplay]

Limbaugh is definitely a pompus ass, but he often makes some great points or catches politicians trying to fly under the radar which is why he manages to have such a following. Much better than that idiot Hannity. The difference here is the Rush is a pundit who encourages a cult of personality for himself. Obama as President can't pull that openly.

Guys like him scare the crap out of Obama after seeing what they did with the Immigration bill and the numbers they pulled together. Its in their best interests to go after him.

[philbob]

Limbaugh is definitely a pompus ass, but he often makes some great points or catches politicians trying to fly under the radar which is why he manages to have such a following. Much better than that idiot Hannity. The difference here is the Rush is a pundit who encourages a cult of personality for himself. Obama as President can't pull that openly.

Guys like him scare the crap out of Obama after seeing what they did with the Immigration bill and the numbers they pulled together. Its in their best interests to go after him.

IF that is the case i hope Rush wins

[Walter Sobchak]

Can you imagine the sh*t-storm if GW Bush had told the Democrats at any time during the last eight years, "I won!" or told them something silly like, "Stop taking your orders from George Soros"?

Can anyone say, Double Standard?

[shocker1]

Can you imagine the sh*t-storm if GW Bush had told the Democrats at any time during the last eight years, "I won!" or told them, "Stop taking your orders from George Soros"?

Can anyone say, Double Standard?
It is the norm, what do you expect when an admitted tax evader can run the Treasury? To be fair, Paulson funneled money to his banker pals with no judicial review possible.

[11 Bravo]

From the horse's mouth. I really like the saul alinsky rule #13.. he may be onto something as has been said here already it seems like a baffled Oblahma just making hot wind to distract from the lack... of.

Saturday, January 24, 2009



Limbaugh Responds to Obama [Byron York]


According to an account in the New York Post, President Barack Obama yesterday told Republican leaders, "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done." With George W. Bush now off the stage, it may be that Obama and some of his fellow Democrats view Limbaugh, and not John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, or any other elected official, as the true leader of the Republican opposition. This morning I asked Rush for his thoughts on all this, and here is his response:

There are two things going on here. One ****g of the Great Unifier's plan is to isolate elected Republicans from their voters and supporters by making the argument about me and not about his plan. He is hoping that these Republicans will also publicly denounce me and thus marginalize me. And who knows? Are ideological and philosophical ties enough to keep the GOP loyal to their voters? Meanwhile, the effort to foist all blame for this mess on the private sector continues unabated when most of the blame for this current debacle can be laid at the feet of the Congress and a couple of former presidents. And there is a strategic reason for this.

Secondly, here is a combo quote from the meeting:

"If we don't get this done we (the Democrats) could lose seats and I could lose re-election. But we can't let people like Rush Limbaugh stall this. That's how things don't get done in this town."

To make the argument about me instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. Obama's plan would buy votes for the Democrat Party, in the same way FDR's New Deal established majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule, and it would also simultaneously seriously damage any hope of future tax cuts. It would allow a majority of American voters to guarantee no taxes for themselves going forward. It would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy. Put simply, I believe his stimulus is aimed at re-establishing "eternal" power for the Democrat Party rather than stimulating the economy because anyone with a brain knows this is NOT how you stimulate the economy. If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of this TRILLION dollar debacle.

Obama was angry that Merrill Lynch used $1.2 million of TARP money to remodel an executive suite. Excuse me, but didn't Merrill have to hire a decorator and contractor? Didn't they have to buy the new furnishings? What's the difference in that and Merrill loaning that money to a decorator, contractor and goods supplier to remodel Warren Buffet's office? Either way, stimulus in the private sector occurs. Are we really at the point where the bad PR of Merrill getting a redecorated office in the process is reason to smear them? How much money will the Obamas spend redecorating the White House residence? Whose money will be spent? I have no problem with the Obamas redoing the place. It is tradition. 600 private jets flown by rich Democrats flew into the Inauguration. That's fine but the auto execs using theirs is a crime? In both instances, the people on those jets arrived in Washington wanting something from Washington, not just good will.

If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of the trillion dollar debacle.

One more thing, Byron. Your publication and website have documented Obama's ties to the teachings of Saul Alinksy while he was community organizing in Chicago. Here is Rule 13 of Alinksy's Rules for Radicals:

"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

[helomech]

For all to see:
You get the government you voted for

Next chance to make a change-4 years from now

[bigvig]

Obama was angry that Merrill Lynch used $1.2 million of TARP money to remodel an executive suite. Excuse me, but didn't Merrill have to hire a decorator and contractor? Didn't they have to buy the new furnishings? What's the difference in that and Merrill loaning that money to a decorator, contractor and goods supplier to remodel Warren Buffet's office? Either way, stimulus in the private sector occurs. Are we really at the point where the bad PR of Merrill getting a redecorated office in the process is reason to smear them? How much money will the Obamas spend redecorating the White House residence? Whose money will be spent? I have no problem with the Obamas redoing the place. It is tradition. 600 private jets flown by rich Democrats flew into the Inauguration. That's fine but the auto execs using theirs is a crime? In both instances, the people on those jets arrived in Washington wanting something from Washington, not just good will.
Am I the only one to think this is extremely retarded? TARP is to restore confidence in financial markets and improve investor confidence. The goal of TARP funds is to allow the resuming of lending and trading of assets at normal pre-crisis levels, not for executives to get $5000 chairs. How does an expensive remodeling of an office room achieve these objectives?

[Bia]

Limbaugh is a pill popping drug addict hypocrite...

I equate his admirers to the blind Germans following Hitler into darkness and ignorance through propoganda that could only work on the evil or the daft.

[11 Bravo]

Limbaugh is a pill popping drug addict hypocrite...

I equate his admirers to the blind Germans following Hitler into darkness and ignorance through propoganda that could only work on the evil or the daft.

Whoa... lay off the oblahmaton brand koolaide... you sound like a demoslobik party apparatchnik mouthpeice !.
Seems to me Limboaugh refuses to be a politician and unlike oblahma has not advocated a "youth security org"... ( reminiscent of the Hitlerjugend no ? ). Being Oblahma casually admits he used weed and cocaine... who's the better man on that aspect ?. One guy made his money in chicago politics and the other a self made millionaire outside of any government sponging.
I guess in your eyes Oblahma is morally superior for something not tangible that defies a clear clean explanation less heil oblahma rhetoric ?. Oh.. maybe it's "change"... or "retrochange" due to the clinton apparatus he has surrounded himself with. Hell it's hard to tell with all the symbolism over substance the messiah purposely smokescreens himself with.

[philbob]

I equate his admirers to the blind Germans following Hitler into darkness and ignorance through propoganda that could only work on the evil or the daft.

you could be talking about Obama followers also there

i said she was ignorant once im tempted to say it again

[brainplay]

Ouchies. I can see this thread going places when the Obamamaniacs get butt hurt over a radio pundit who isn't an elected official and who isn't making any policies or laws.

[Mr.Flint]

Pocket Obama (Paperback)

Printed in a size that easily fits into pocket or purse, this book is an anthology of quotations borrowed from Barack Obama's speeches and writings. POCKET OBAMA serves as a reminder of the amazing power of oratory and the remarkable ability of this man to move people with his words. His superb and captivating oratory style has earned comparisons to John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, and this collection presents words that catapulted his remarkable rise to the American Presidency. Includes themes of democracy, politics, war, terrorism, race, community, jurisprudence, faith, personal responsibility, national identity, and above all, his hoped-for vision of a new America. This book is truly a primer for readers who want to examine the substance of his thought and reflect on the next great chapter in the American story. It is an unofficial requirement for every citizen to own, to read, and to carry this book at all times.
http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Obama-Editors-History-Company/dp/0978736842/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231259173&sr=8-6

Mao's Red Book anyone?

[11 Bravo]

http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Obama-Editors-History-Company/dp/0978736842/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231259173&sr=8-6

Mao's Red Book anyone?

Hell , Mao did'nt drop the ball like oblahma did on his innauguration "speech". Old mao even made the "cultural" revolution sound like a garden party picnic. I just don't see the greatness behind this figurehead in american politics.. excepting the apparatus behind the man that got him where he is.

[California Joe]

I always liked to listen to G. Gordon better. He's a maniac but he's entertaining.

Rush Limbaugh should go home every night and thank Gawd or the Giant Oxycodone in the sky that he prays to, that Obama got elected. It ensures him better ratings for the next four years. If it hadn't been for Bill Clinton getting his **** sucked Conservative radio never would have exploded the way it did.

This sh*t is pointless anyway, the President shouldn't be using radio personalities as examples. And Rush's target audience isn't going to suddenly change their opinions.

[philbob]

If anything it will encite some of them to more extream rehtoric or measures

[philbob]

lets also be realistic, Obama has not 'won' until he delivers on at least a fraction of his promises, most notably getting the economy back, and putting those 3-4 million people too work

[budgie]

Even if that happens you guys will claim it's a trickle-down from Bush's brilliant economic policies.

[philbob]

Even if that happens you guys will claim it's a trickle-down from Bush's brilliant economic policies.

you know what, you need both to regulate and deregulate. It is a cylicial thing, and the trick is knowing when to switch gears. If you dont deregulate you bleed alot of initative and potential that can be used to increase growth and yeild. If you dont know when to regulate you get what happend last year. But you need both to be sucsesful.

and he cannot claim he won until stuff starts getting better

[Geezah]

Limbaugh is a pill popping drug addict hypocrite...

And Obama loves Charlie, so it's ok to forgive and forget for the Libs, but not for the Conservatives?



I equate his admirers to the blind Germans following Hitler into darkness and ignorance through propoganda that could only work on the evil or the daft.

Wow......I guess that includes me then, I listen to the Rush if he's on when I'm in the car, but I have also listened to Savage, who I think it a little bit more of a kook.








Are all Obama related threads going to get shut down?

[philbob]

why would they?

[California Joe]

Are all Obama related threads going to get shut down?

Only the really stupid ones.

[shocker1]

Even if that happens you guys will claim it's a trickle-down from Bush's brilliant economic policies.
If it gets worse then you will surely chime in with the same hypocrisy.