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Ordie
01-27-2009, 02:32 AM
I hope we could get a comprehensive inter-city high speed rail network. This would reduce our dependency on oil and air travel hassels.


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Chinese economic medicine: Road and rails
By Keith Bradsher

Friday, January 23, 2009
GUANGZHOU, China: As President Barack Obama and Congress draft an $825 billion economic stimulus plan for the United States, China is already two months into its own, very different stimulus effort to combat the global economic slump.
Democrats in Washington have put aside initial calls for starting big transportation projects, with the bill in the U.S. House of Representatives allocating less than 5 percent of spending for the construction of highways, rail lines and mass transit programs. But China is taking a more old-fashioned approach to stimulating an economy, with a heavy emphasis on pouring concrete and laying rails.
China's approach plays to the country's strengths in spending a lot of money quickly and creating jobs for literally millions of workers. And unlike the United States, the Chinese government has few debts, a tiny budget deficit and lots of cash to put behind its spending plans.
A $17.6 billion passenger rail line across the deserts of northwest China, a $22 billion web of freight rail lines in Shanxi Province in north central China and a $24 billion high-speed passenger rail line from Beijing to Guangzhou in southeastern China are among the biggest projects. But extra spending is being planned in almost every city, town and county across the country. The Ministry of Transportation, for example, just announced that 300,000 kilometers, or 186,000 miles, of rural roads would be paved, repaved or otherwise improved this year.
With Chinese leaders increasingly worried about the slowdown of their country's economy and the growing risk of protests by unemployed workers, policy makers "are already in a mode of panic," said Qu Hongbin, the chief China economist at HSBC.
"They're going to spend like there's no tomorrow," he predicted.
Chinese spending on the construction of intercity rail lines, the highest priority in the stimulus plan, is to double this year to $88 billion. Spending was $44 billion last year and just $12 billion as recently as 2004, said John Scales, the transport coordinator for China at the World Bank.
"I don't think anything compares, except maybe the growth of the U.S. rail network at the start of the 20th century," Scales said.
When inflation started to become a problem in China in the spring of 2004, the authorities in Beijing began a four-year effort to prevent the economy from overheating. They barred local and provincial governments across the nation from proceeding with plans for many roads, airports, subway systems and other infrastructure.
Now the central government is urging these local and provincial governments to go ahead with their projects because they are, in Washington's current parlance, "shovel ready."
China's incremental spending on economic stimulus is very hard to calculate.
The central government announced two months ago that it planned a stimulus program worth 4 trillion yuan, or $586 billion, spread over two years. If all of that money were actually extra spending, it would equal 14 percent of the entire Chinese economic output last year.
That would dwarf the plan now going through the U.S. House of Representatives. That plan is also spread over two years and equals nearly 6 percent of the United States' estimated economic output last year.
But Chinese and Western economists said that the plan announced two months ago exaggerated the actual increase in spending in two ways.
The plan included some projects that had already been slated for construction. And the central government has set aside less than a third of the money needed for the stimulus program.
The directors of construction projects have been told to try to raise the rest of the money from local and provincial governments or borrow it from banks or insurers. Bank lending jumped in November at the fastest annual pace in nearly five years, as the state-controlled banking sector responded to regulatory pressures to step up lending, while insurers have just been given the authority to start lending to infrastructure projects.
Further complicating the picture has been a deluge of requests from local and provincial governments to carry out their own projects separately from the national program. These requests now total $2.6 trillion, according to the state media.
But few of these projects are likely to happen quickly, said Stephen Green, an economist in the Shanghai office of Standard Chartered. That is because local and provincial governments have limited tax revenues and little ability to sell bonds, forcing them to rely on revenue sharing by the central government.
Add up all these factors and the stimulus program is likely to add 1 to 3 percent to Chinese economic growth this year, said Dong Tao, a China economist at Credit Suisse. The American program is likely to add nearly 3 percent to the United States' growth, he added.
Another complexity in comparing the U.S. and Chinese fiscal stimulus programs is that the American plan is a grab-bag of different initiatives. The Chinese government is starting new programs that are not being described as stimulus measures, but may have the same effect.
In the United States, more than two-thirds of the money in the House bill would go toward tax cuts and helping states with health and education needs; most of the rest is for modernizing school buildings, improving data systems for health care and improving the energy efficiency of federal buildings.
China announced late Wednesday that, separately from its stimulus program, it would spend $123 billion to provide universal health care within two years. The previous goal had been to do this within 11 years.
While economists may debate the details, the combined national, provincial and local spending for economic stimulus promises to change the face of China, giving the country a world-class infrastructure to move goods and people quickly, cheaply and reliably across great distances.
"The increased expenditure on infrastructure will certainly contribute to China's productivity growth and improve its long-term competitiveness, allowing it to pull away from its Asian neighbors, who are much more constrained - by higher levels of budget deficits and public debt - in their ability to unleash a fiscal stimulus," said Eswar Prasad, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institute.
Feng Fei, the director general of industrial economics at the policy research unit of the Chinese cabinet, the State Council, said that steep increases in railroad investments would create lasting benefits.
The goal is to slow China's dependence on personal cars and imported oil, to reduce air pollution and to relieve the annual shortage of seats on trains during the Lunar New Year, when millions of people visit their families, he said.
Across China, the stimulus plan is increasing infrastructure spending that was already prodigious.
China has already built as many miles of high-speed passenger rail lines in the past four years as Europe has in two decades. A new bullet train from Beijing to Tianjin, opened Aug. 1, travels as fast as 350 kilometers per hour.
The government has nearly finished the construction of a high-speed rail route from Beijing to Shanghai at a cost of $23.5 billion, almost equal to that of the entire Three Gorges hydroelectric dam project. The authorities recently disclosed that they had 110,000 workers laboring to finish the route as quickly as possible - a sign not only that plenty of money was available, but also that infrastructure construction in China remained a labor-intensive activity that created a lot of jobs. Trains will cover the 1,120-kilometer route in just five hours, compared with 12 hours now.
Aside from transportation, most of the rest of China's national stimulus program will be spent on airports, highways and environmental projects, particularly water treatment plants, Feng said.
So extensive are the plans being drawn up by government agencies in Beijing and elsewhere that they have collided with the government's longstanding policy of maintaining self-sufficiency in food production.
China requires that any arable land converted from farming to other uses must be offset by bringing other land elsewhere in China into cultivation.
But the stimulus plan calls for construction on nearly three times as much arable land this year and next year as can readily be brought into cultivation elsewhere.
The Ministry of Planning and Land Resources said at the end of December that it was studying ways to "borrow" land that was supposed to be brought into cultivation in 2011 and 2012, and use it for economic stimulus projects now.
A second issue lies in how quickly China can actually accelerate its construction programs, even if the money is available. "This is a very key question," and nobody has the answers, Feng said.
Megaprojects like those now coming off the drawing boards require large numbers of experienced engineers, skilled workers and architects, as well as specialized equipment. A steep drop in housing construction is starting to put large numbers of laborers out of work in China, but fewer skilled employees.
But most economists and other experts say that China should be able to increase actual construction more quickly than the West. The government still controls large sectors of the economy and has the ability to seize private property and sweep aside environmental objections to complete projects on time.
When port construction fell behind imports of bulk cargos like iron ore in 2004, and ships started waiting as long as a month to unload, the government tripled port spending in six months. Large labor teams worked day and night to fix the problem.
A large chunk of the infrastructure spending has also been earmarked for projects in inland provinces and for rural areas, where the economic viability of new roads and bridges is often less clear.
By contrast, China's most prosperous coastal areas already have remarkably good roads and railroads connecting factories to each other and nearby ports. That is making it harder for officials to find projects that would be economically viable on their own merits.
Here in Guangzhou, a city of 12 million near the coast that is the commercial hub of southeastern China and is preparing to hold the Asian Games in 2010, local officials are staying cautious.
They have already asked workers to step up the pace on existing projects. But the city's biggest project, subway construction, has not been accelerated, as work was already proceeding around the clock, seven days a week.
"We have not put forth any new projects in response to this new stimulus plan," said Chen Hao Tian, the director of the city's powerful planning agency, the Development and Reform Commission. "We are already working full steam ahead on a very comprehensive program."
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ren0312
01-27-2009, 03:26 AM
I hope we could get a comprehensive inter-city high speed rail network. This would reduce our dependency on oil and air travel hassels.

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Why not a subway instead?

Ordie
01-27-2009, 09:11 AM
Why not a subway instead?

Inter city means between cities not Inner City (Within cities)

Subways are too expensive. It's cheaper and much more efficient to utilize existing surface abandoned and underutilized railroad right of ways.

Many of these right of ways need upgraded tracks, overhead wires and stations.

Britboy
01-27-2009, 09:18 AM
Nice move China. Wish we would do this.

Giving untold amounts of money for failed bank CEOs to get in their golden handshakes, or for banks to not lend out again, is not the answer. That, to my mind, is reinforcing failure. Something we shouldn't do.

Better that we cut out the middleman and get money to firms and workers. Massive public works projects.

A) The projects get done, which is a requirement, and at a competitive price in this climate. Better than not getting done!

B) Money gets into the economy as desired.

C) Spend other money on making sure other people don't lose their savings to the guaranteed level of £35000 each.

I can't see how throwing MORE good money after bad money is going to help. Gordo has carried out another bail-out now. Why not just let the failed institutions fall (survival of the fittest and all), recompense the people who would otherwise lose their savings, then invest in real infrastructure whilst stimulating the economy at a grassroots level too?

Even if this 2nd bailout works, we all know the banks will be asking for more in a years time or so anyway.

Jobu
01-27-2009, 11:21 AM
I hope we could get a comprehensive inter-city high speed rail network. This would reduce our dependency on oil and air travel hassels.

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...and put the final nail in our automobile industry and the millions of workers associated with it.


Great thinking.

Ordie
01-27-2009, 03:41 PM
^^^
Then GM could get into the locomotive and transit bus industry. Nothing precludes US auto companies from entering into the general ground transportation business.

ren0312
01-27-2009, 09:40 PM
Inter city means between cities not Inner City (Within cities)

Subways are too expensive. It's cheaper and much more efficient to utilize existing surface abandoned and underutilized railroad right of ways.

Many of these right of ways need upgraded tracks, overhead wires and stations.

I just think that subways look aesthetically better because it eliminates the aboveground clutter and blight that overhead rails produce, especially if the entire structure is made out of metal, it just looks unsightly.

ren0312
01-27-2009, 09:45 PM
^^^
Then GM could get into the locomotive and transit bus industry. Nothing precludes US auto companies from entering into the general ground transportation business.

The bus and locomotive industries are already cornerned by International, Merecedes Benz, MAN, Volvo, Bombardier, Hino, Nissan Diesel etc, the industry is already very saturated with probably too mnay manufacturers.

ViktorNavorski
01-27-2009, 09:51 PM
It might be good for China, where the infrastructure are not as developed as some in the industrialized world, but it's not exactly something that would help the U.S. in the long term. You can spend money repairing old roads and infrastructure and only have to spend money maintaining those. The flip side is spending more money building something new will increase maintenance cost since you're going to be maintaining the old stuffs and new stuffs. A better example would be Japan, who spends so much money on infrastructure that they're stuck in a cycle of continually building new rail, road, etc...bullet train to nowhere with no passengers, anyone, anyone...and it hasn't help that stagnant economy.

bigvig
01-27-2009, 09:52 PM
For one thing, they could bolster more effort into building what was dubbed the 'green wall of china'. Basically combating desertification which is swallowing thousands of sq km of useful land a year.

TheMiddlePath
01-27-2009, 10:37 PM
China railway plans.

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Ordie
01-28-2009, 12:10 AM
^^^
I'm impressed.

TheMiddlePath
01-28-2009, 12:51 AM
For one thing, they could bolster more effort into building what was dubbed the 'green wall of china'. Basically combating desertification which is swallowing thousands of sq km of useful land a year.


Sanbei Shelter Belt System Engineering
-The World's Largest Ecological Construction Project

Total Forestation Area: 90 Million Acre
Total Investment: Over 10 Billion
Project Duration: 1978 -2050

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Returning Farmland to Forest Reforestation Project
Cost: Over 200 Billion Yuan
Duration: 1998 - 2020

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DanteXavier
01-28-2009, 01:52 AM
The bus and locomotive industries are already cornerned by International, Merecedes Benz, MAN, Volvo, Bombardier, Hino, Nissan Diesel etc, the industry is already very saturated with probably too mnay manufacturers.

I'm pretty sure that Mercedes, MAN, Volvo, Nissan Diesel and Hino haven't entered the bus or locomotive market in the united states. Companies like Orion, NABI and New Flyer and Gillig tend to dominate the citybus markets while MCI owns the long distance coach market. There is plenty of opportunity for GM and other American companies to get involved here if need be.

Ordie
01-28-2009, 02:41 AM
Companies like Orion, NABI and New Flyer and Gillig tend to dominate the citybus markets while MCI owns the long distance coach market. There is plenty of opportunity for GM and other American companies to get involved here if need be.

The US government funds 80% of public transit bus perchases on the premise that the vehicle in made in the USA (Buy American).

Mercedes, MAN, Volvo, Nissan and Hino are out of contention unless the said public transit is able to purchase buses without federal funding.

Orion was or is owned by Mercedes, built in Canada, assembled in New York to meet federal "buy American" guidelines.

NABI is Hungarian owned and built, assembled in Alabama to meet "buy American" guidelines (with generous local tax breaks and non-union workers)

MCI is Canadian owned and built, assembled just over the border in N. Dakota to meet "buy American" guidelines.

Gillig is American owned (equity firm) and built in (Hayward) San Francisco. However 50% of sub assembly parts is imported and its production line is limited to 40ft. buses.

GM once made very good buses, GMC "New Look" (The bus model used in the movie Speed.). But realistacly they'll most likely purchase one of the brands above.

What is lacking in our country is the lack of rail manufacturing. Almost all light and commuter rail products are imports. Amtrak's Acela is made by Bombardier of Canada. San Francisco light rail trains is made by Breda of Italy. And San Diego's trolleys are made by Siemens of Germany.

bigvig
01-28-2009, 01:59 PM
Sanbei Shelter Belt System Engineering
-The World's Largest Ecological Construction Project

Total Forestation Area: 90 Million Acre
Total Investment: Over 10 Billion
Project Duration: 1978 -2050

Thanks, didn't know its real name. Gonna look it up.

TheMiddlePath
01-28-2009, 08:53 PM
^^^
I'm impressed.

Oh there are more...

Shanghai Transport Hub.

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Wuhai Transport Hub

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Beijing South Railway Station

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Zerazax
01-28-2009, 11:57 PM
THis is perfect for China becaues their infrastructure improvements can still improve vastly, it will promote inland growth (compared to coastal booms), and cause it has a ton of people that need to move around

TheMiddlePath
01-31-2009, 12:52 AM
THis is perfect for China becaues their infrastructure improvements can still improve vastly, it will promote inland growth (compared to coastal booms), and cause it has a ton of people that need to move around

Good opportunity for Germany too.


Merkel and Wen both spoke out against protectionism and promised to strengthen ties between their two countries, the world's two top exporters of goods.
Merkel said she saw good possibilities for further cooperation on infrastructure projects, such as trains.

During Wen's Berlin visit, China's Shanghai Maglev Transportation Development Co signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Germany's ThyssenKrupp on the Transrapid magnetic high speed rail project.

Second generation high speed train in Beijing
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Ordie
01-31-2009, 02:03 AM
Merkel and Wen both spoke out against protectionism and promised to strengthen ties between their two countries, the world's two top exporters of goods.

Protectionism is not good for the US either. If China has its plan for rail expansion projects, its a positive for the US especially for Northern Minnesota iron ore miners.

eugenlitwin
01-31-2009, 11:40 AM
edition:
German economic medicine: Road and rails

Walter Sobchak
01-31-2009, 05:04 PM
Nice move China. Wish we would do this.

In the US, just getting through the Byzantine maze of the Endangered Species Act, Environmental Impact Studies, landowner lawsuits, demonstrations, public hearings, contractor set-asides for women- and minority-owned businesses, bids, cost over-runs, strikes, construction permits requires more time than the recession will possibly last.

That's why we don't build infrastructure anymore. By the time you can, you either don't need it or the cost has gone up so much that it requires a whole new cost structuring. It's why our airports are short of runways, our bridges are 50-years old, our refineries were built before 1960 and our railroads still run on 100-year old roadbed.

And worst of all, we did this to ourselves!

damagejackal
01-31-2009, 06:35 PM
In the US, just getting through the Byzantine maze of the Endangered Species Act, Environmental Impact Studies, landowner lawsuits, demonstrations, public hearings, contractor set-asides for women- and minority-owned businesses, bids, cost over-runs, strikes, construction permits requires more time than the recession will possibly last.

That's why we don't build infrastructure anymore. By the time you can, you either don't need it or the cost has gone up so much that it requires a whole new cost structuring. It's why our airports are short of runways, our bridges are 50-years old, our refineries were built before 1960 and our railroads still run on 100-year old roadbed.

And worst of all, we did this to ourselves!


Yeah! I was thinking about this, an do you notice that most of China's politicians are Engineers. Did a quick search an found out...


US Congress Assembled contains two physicists, two chemists, two biologists, one geologist, 234 lawyers and an astronaut.
All nine members of the neo-Politburo running the People's Republic are engineers.
They have a country run by technocrats meanwhile the West is beholden to lawyers an labour unions.
Looks like the chinese wll be laughing at us for some time to come:-(

Marshall_Nord
01-31-2009, 06:44 PM
US Congress Assembled contains two physicists, two chemists, two biologists, one geologist, 234 lawyers and an astronaut.

Our #1 problem, in my opinion. Lawyers are professional liars and avoid “unnecessary” risks which, to a lawyer, is pretty much everything.

TheMiddlePath
02-01-2009, 01:35 AM
Protectionism is not good for the US either. If China has its plan for rail expansion projects, its a positive for the US especially for Northern Minnesota iron ore miners.

Not only steel for railway but bridges, skyscrappers, and everything from turbines for Hydro Dams, Nuclear power technology, oil refinary etc.

Here is a lists of China's mega progects...

1, the Changxing Shipbuilding Base - to create the world's largest shipbuilding base projects with a total investment: 35,000,000,000 yuan
2, the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway - the world's longest high-speed railway projects with a total investment of the project: 220,000,000,000 yuan
3, Beijingnanzhan - Asia's largest railway station with a total investment of the project: 6.3 billion
4, Hangzhou Bay Bridge - the world's longest cross-sea bridge project with a total investment: 16,000,000,000 yuan
5, Caofeidian development - far more than the size of the Three Gorges Project with a total investment of the project: 230,000,000,000 yuan
6, Sutong Yangtze River Bridge - the world's longest cable-stayed bridge with a total investment of the project: 7,890,000,000 yuan
7, western development - large-scale systems engineering projects with a total investment: 850,000,000,000 yuan more than
8, Fusha Zhangzhou City on the occasion of the total investment in railway projects: 38,000,000,000 yuan
9, the "five vertical cross-seven" national backbone project with a total investment: 900,000,000,000 yuan
- The world's largest highway project
10, China's "eight vertical cross-eight" high-capacity fiber-optic communications network with a total investment of the project: 7,000,000,000 yuan
11, "South-North Water Diversion" - the world's largest water conservancy project with a total investment: 500,000,000,000 yuan
12, Capital International Airport T3 terminal - the world's largest single building with a total investment: 25,000,000,000 yuan
13, Zhanjiang East Sea Island: Baosteel million-ton steel base with a total investment of the project: 69,000,000,000 yuan
14, Shanghai, Lingang New City - the world's largest land reclamation projects with a total investment of the project: 150,000,000,000 yuan
15, the Shanghai Yangshan deep-water port - to build the world's largest port with a total investment of the project: 50,000,000,000 yuan
16, China's "long-term railway network planning," with a total investment of the project: 2,000,000,000,000 yuan
17, sent to East Sichuan gas project with a total investment of the project: 62,700,000,000 yuan
18, the Liaoning Nuclear Power Plant along the river red with a total investment of the project: 50,000,000,000 yuan
19, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve project with a total investment of the project: 100,000,000,000 yuan
20, the Wuhan Railway Station - the largest land-locked into the rail project with a total investment: 14,000,000,000 yuan
21, the new Kunming International Airport - China's first 4 large aviation hub airport with a total investment of the project: 23,100,000,000 yuan
22, Hainan cross-sea power grid projects with a total investment of the project: 2.2 billion
23, 1,000,000 tons of ethylene project in Tianjin with a total investment of the project: 26.8 billion
24, the Shanghai Light Source Laboratory - a major Chinese science and engineering projects with a total investment: 1.2 billion
25, post-disaster reconstruction projects in Sichuan with a total investment: 1,200,000,000,000 yuan
26, the revival of the Silk Road Project with a total investment: 43,000,000,000 U.S. dollars
27, China's second largest hydropower station - Xiluodu hydropower project with a total investment: 79,200,000,000 yuan
28, China's third-largest hydropower station - Xiangjiaba hydropower projects with a total investment: 43.4 billion
29, Wenchang in Hainan spaceport project with a total investment: 12,000,000,000 yuan
30, the Shanghai Aircraft Engineering Company with a total investment of the project: 300-500 billion
31, the spallation neutron source projects with a total investment of the project: 1.2 billion
32, the world's largest 500-meter diameter spherical radio telescope project investment: 627,000,000 yuan
33, Shanghai-Chengdu Expressway (Shanghai to Chengdu) with a total investment of the project: 170,000,000,000 yuan
34, Ningxia Ning East energy projects with a total investment of chemical bases: 100,000,000,000 yuan
35, the Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macao Bridge project with a total investment: 70,000,000,000 yuan
36, the state environmental protection projects with a total investment of 11th Five-Year Plan: 1,530,000,000,000 yuan
37, Jiuquan in Gansu Province - the world's largest wind power base with a total investment of the project: 120,000,000,000 yuan
38, the Wuhan-Guangzhou high-speed railway projects with a total investment: 116,800,000,000 yuan

39, the new Guangzhou Railway Station with a total investment of the project: 18,000,000,000 yuan
40, "the national civil airport layout planning" with a total investment of the project: 450,000,000,000 yuan
41, the Shanghai Hongqiao traffic hub with a total investment of the project: 36,000,000,000 yuan
42, Kazakhstan big high-speed railway projects with a total investment: 92,300,000,000 yuan
43, Tianjin offshore oil field exploration equipment bases with a total investment of the project: 22,000,000,000 yuan
44, the chemical industry base in northern Shaanxi energy projects with a total investment: 90,000,000,000 yuan
45, Sinopec Yilangyada varan oil field projects with a total investment: 2,000,000,000 U.S. dollars
46, oil in Sudan oil project with a total investment of the project: 7,000,000,000 U.S. dollars
47, Niger oil in oil projects with a total investment of the project: 5,000,000,000 U.S. dollars
48, Africa and Gabon Belinga iron ore project with a total investment: 2,700,000,000 U.S. dollars
49, China's 11th Five-Year plan for construction of the national power grid with a total investment of the project: 1,215,000,000,000 yuan
50, the 11th Five-Tibet highway traffic planning projects with a total investment: 43,000,000,000 yuan
51, China's construction of the railway modernization project in Nigeria with a total investment of the project: 8,300,000,000 U.S. dollars
52, China Libyan coastal railway construction projects with a total investment of the project: 2,600,000,000 U.S. dollars
53, the Russian Baltic Pearl project with a total investment of the project: 1,300,000,000 U.S. dollars
54, China Algeria East-West highway construction projects with a total investment of the project: 7,000,000,000 U.S. dollars
55, the Asian highway network - 23 countries join hands to build a super project with a total investment of the project: 44,000,000,000 U.S. dollars
56, Qinzhou in Guangxi million-ton oil refining project with a total investment of the project: 15.2 billion
57, the Shanghai Center - China's first high-rise projects with a total investment: 7,000,000,000 yuan
58, Sichuan Puguang Xuanhan large gas field with a total investment of the project: 70,000,000,000 yuan
59, Zhejiang coastal railway crossing large projects with a total investment: 16.2 billion
60, Panzhihua Iron and Steel Group 10,000 tons titanium production lines with a total investment of the project: 1,000,000,000 yuan
61, west to east - the world's largest power projects with a total investment of the project: more than 526,500,000,000
62, China's manned space program with a total investment of the project: 30,000,000,000 yuan
63,2010 World Expo in Shanghai with a total investment of the project: 40,000,000,000 yuan
64, the Guangzhou Nansha Longxue shipbuilding base projects with a total investment: 4.5 billion
65, Zhejiang Sanmen nuclear power project with a total investment of the project: 80,000,000,000 yuan
66, Guangdong Yangjiang nuclear power project with a total investment of the project: 8,000,000,000 U.S. dollars
67, Yantai, Shandong Haiyang Nuclear Power Project with a total investment: 60,000,000,000 yuan
68, Wuhan river subway project with a total investment of the project: 14.9 billion
69, 80,000 tons more than the forging hydraulic press with a total investment of the project: 1,517,000,000 yuan
70, China's renewable energy development plan with a total investment of the project: 2,000,000,000,000 yuan
71, the "Every Village" project with a total investment of the project: more than 1 trillion yuan
72, rural water-saving irrigation projects with a total investment: 300 billion
73, the screening of the film projects in rural areas with a total investment of the project: 1,000,000,000 yuan
74, the village of a thousand million rural market works projects with a total investment: 11.7 billion
75, the National squatter settlements renovation project with a total investment of the project: 2000 billion yuan
76,2008-2020 Shanghai Metro-year planning project with a total investment: 150,000,000,000 yuan more than

77,2008-2020 rail transit planning in Beijing with a total investment of the project: 170,000,000,000 yuan more than
78, the Dalian Petrochemical build China's largest oil refining bases with a total investment of the project: 10.7 billion
79, Chongqi Bridge project with a total investment: 7.6 billion
80, the Chengdu Shuangliu Airport expansion project with a total investment of the project: 12,700,000,000 yuan
81, the Pearl River Delta inter-city rail transit network planning project with a total investment: 1000 billion yuan
82, the Yangtze River Delta inter-city rail transit network planning project with a total investment: 150,000,000,000 yuan more than
83, the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei Bohai inter-city rail transit network planning project with a total investment: 1000 billion yuan
84, Kashi of Xinjiang to Hotan with a total investment of the railway project: 4.7 billion
85, the Shanghai Yangtze River Bridge Tunnel (Chongming river channel) projects with a total investment of the project: 12.6 billion
86, Jinping II hydropower station with a total investment of the project: 46,800,000,000 yuan
87, the Longtan Hydropower Project with a total investment: 24.3 billion
88, Anhui Lianghuai Yidun Ji coal base with a total investment of the project: 70,000,000,000 yuan
89, Jiangxi jin tens of billions of high-quality rice production project with a total investment of the project: 31.8 billion
90, Zhongnanshan Tunnel - China's longest highway tunnel project with a total investment: 2.5 billion
91, China 12 major hydropower bases in development planning projects with a total investment: more than 2 trillion yuan
92, the Shanghai-Hangzhou maglev project with a total investment of the project: 22,000,000,000 yuan
93, to revitalize the old northeast industrial base with a total investment of the project: 2000 billion yuan
94, the Guangzhou Opera House - steel structure comparable to the complexity of the nest with a total investment of the project: 1,000,000,000 yuan
95, the Shanghai World Financial Center with a total investment of the project: 7,000,000,000 yuan
96, Nanjing Metro Line project with a total investment: 10.9 billion
97, the basket - super markets projects with a total investment: 500 billion
98, the second phase expansion project of Qinshan nuclear power projects with a total investment: 14.5 billion
99, Tianhuangping pumped storage power station project with a total investment: 13.6 billion
100, China Central Television headquarters building with a total investment of the project: 5,000,000,000 yuan
101, the Three-North Forest Shelterbelt Project total investment: 100 billion
102, the coastal shelter forest project with a total investment of the project: 200 billion
103, Tianjin Lingang Industrial Zone with a total investment of the project: 300,000,000,000 yuan more than
104, the Tianjin Binhai New Area with a total investment of the project: more than 1 trillion yuan
105, the rocket thrust industrialization base with a total investment of the project: 4.5 billion
106, Tianxingzhou Wuhan Yangtze River Bridge project with a total investment: 11,000,000,000 yuan

The total amount of funds involved in these projects, more than 15,000,000,000,000 yuan more than
Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway - the world's longest high-speed railway project
Caofeidian Industrial Zone - far beyond the scale of the Three Gorges Project
Hangzhou Bay Bridge - the world's longest cross-sea bridge
Beijing Capital International Airport T3 terminal - the world's largest single construction
Shanghai Lingang New City - the world's largest land reclamation project
Shanghai's Yangshan deep-water port - to build the world's largest port
Changxing Shipbuilding Base - to create the world's largest shipbuilding base
"South-North Water Diversion" - the world's largest water conservancy project
"Five vertical cross-seven" national backbone - the world's largest highway project
Development of the western region - large-scale systems engineering
Sutong Yangtze River Bridge - the world's longest cable-stayed bridge
Beijingnanzhan - Asia's largest railway station
Eight vertical cross-eight high-capacity fiber-optic communications network
Chinese high-speed rail network - 2007-2020 annual investment of at least 2 trillion
The new Wuhan Railway Station - the largest railway hub into the inland
Silk Road revival plan
China's second largest hydropower station - Xiluodu Hydropower Station
China's third-largest hydropower station - Xiangjiaba Hydropower Station

pacifist
02-01-2009, 09:59 AM
Infrastructure projects are always good during recession.

I wish we'd do the same in Finland.