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Sayeret
06-21-2004, 08:53 PM
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Experts fear SA-7 missile poses threat to airliners
Cheap, easy to use, it is a terrorist's weapon of choice
Isabel Vincent
National Post

Friday, November 29, 2002
CREDIT: The Associated Press

The anti-aircraft missiles used in yesterday's thwarted attempt to down an Israeli airliner in Kenya have long been a favourite weapon among terrorist groups because they are cheap, easy to use and can hit a target nearly 4,000 metres in the air.

The Strela-2M -- codenamed the SA-7 Grail by NATO -- is the Russian-manufactured version of the U.S. "Stinger" missile, which was supplied by the CIA to mujahedeen warriors fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan during the 1980s.

Experts say the SA-7, which is a shoulder-held heat-seeking missile, can easily be used against unprotected airliners during takeoff and landing. The weapon, also manufactured in China, Pakistan, and Egypt, works by locking on to the heat generated by an aircraft's engines, and is currently a weapon of choice among terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda, Hezbollah and Chechen rebels.

The SA-7, which can be fired by one person but it is considered more effective when handled by two, has historically proven most useful against helicopters and other low-flying military aircraft. First built in the late 1960s, SA-7s were used against U.S. helicopters in the Vietnam conflict until crews found a way to vent the exhaust so the missile would not attach itself to the heat source.


The SA-7s were also used by Arab states during the Yom Kippur war against Israeli Skyhawks. Although SA-7s are limited in their ability to inflict heavy damage on a heavy-frame airplane unless they score a direct hit, they are effective when used in the anticipated path of an attacking jet aircraft, forcing the pilot to abandon the attack run and fly to higher altitudes. Military experts say the use of the weapon during the Yom Kippur war thwarted numerous Israeli air strikes.

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Earlier this year Saudia Arabian authorities said they had arrested members of a terrorist network that had used an SA-7 to try and knock down U.S. military aircraft at the Prince Sultan airbase outside Riyadh.

Eleven Saudis, a Sudanese and an Iraqi man were arrested after a scorched and empty launcher was found near the base.

As with the Saudis, yesterday's attack missed its target, a fact that puzzled experts. The two missiles appear to have been fired from the optimum position -- behind the airliner and into its two red-hot engine exhausts. The missiles also appear to have been operating within their maximum range of 3,600 metres and altitude of 2,300 metres.

There have been rumours for some time that Israeli airliners are equipped with missile detectors and counter-measures such as high-energy flash guns to frustrate missile attacks, but there was little evidence of any such devices being used yesterday.

Nonetheless, authorities fear that because of its portability and range, the SA-7 may begin to pose a serious threat to commercial airlines. To use the weapon in a potential attack against an airliner, a terrorist can be more than a kilometre from the airport, away from any security checks. "Obsolete or not, an SA-7 rolled up in a carpet in the back of a van will remain the worst nightmare of every modern day airport security officer for the foreseeable future," said one military analyst who did not want to be identified.

An SA-7 was responsible for downing the airplane that killed the presidents of Rwanda and Burundi in 1994, the event that triggered the Rwandan massacre.

The missile's popularity among terrorist groups is worrying many in the airline industry who are exploring ways in which commercial airliners could fend off potential SA-7 attacks. Equipping a commercial airline with a device that could repel such a missile could cost as much as US$3-million per plane.

The American version of the SA-7, the Stinger, was responsible for shooting down more than 200 Soviet aircraft in Afghanistan in the 1980s. At the time, the CIA issued up to 4,000 Stingers to their Mujahedeen allies who were fighting the Soviets in the region. At the end of the war, the spy agency offered to buy back the weapons for US$30,000 each. However, only 70 were ever returned.

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Brzeczyszczykiewicz
06-22-2004, 04:44 AM
The Strela-2M -- codenamed the SA-7 Grail by NATO -- is the Russian-manufactured version of the U.S. "Stinger" missile


:roll:

:cantbeli:

oldsoak
06-22-2004, 05:24 AM
If it were a copy, it would be a copy of redeye, surely ? I was always under the impression that the SA-7 was homegrown by the Russians.

Flagg
06-22-2004, 06:05 AM
This is a threat that has existed for decades.....it's now gaining more prominance and exposure as western nations(and the global media assets they control) are a potential and real target.

A couple airliners were shot down by SA7s as early as the late 1970's, but that was "only" Africa :|

Moledet
06-22-2004, 07:31 AM
El-Al is currently installing an anti heat signature missiles system on its air planes.

AFACadet
06-22-2004, 09:06 AM
Yes, the early SA-7's were an almost carbon copy of the Redeye--which is part of the reason they sucked so much.

The Stinger and SA-14 are in the same class--both are pretty good.

cold0
06-22-2004, 09:28 AM
I'm more worried about the SA-14 and the SA-16 that can be found in the international black market than the SA-7 and the "famous" Muj Stingers in the A'stan. The SA-14 scored heavily during the wars in Africa and was used against civil aircrafts in many incidents. It was used even in Checen War (the rebel has found many exemples in the ex- Red Army depots and bought some in the black market) and in Iraq (it was the Iraqi Army order of battle with a few copies of the more advanced SA-16).


tha SA-16 data:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-16.htm

the SA-14 data:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-14.htm

wyrm_142
06-22-2004, 09:56 AM
MANPADs + Civil Air traffic = problem waiting to happen.

I wrote a paper on the threat (that ended up getting sent to TSA in DC due to contacts) for a class in school. Its by no means a final treatise on the subject, but it fit the ~20 pages the guy wanted (and it tackled the subject good enough).

Sayeret
06-22-2004, 11:51 AM
The Strela-2M -- codenamed the SA-7 Grail by NATO -- is the Russian-manufactured version of the U.S. "Stinger" missile

I didn't agree with that at either. I thought that the redeye was the equvilent of the Sa-7 and the SA-16 was the equvilant of the FIM-92 Stinger missile.