View Full Version : Group Calls On Obama To Deport Aunt
Geezah
02-04-2009, 06:49 PM
Woman Was Living In Boston Housing Development
A national group is calling on President Barack Obama to deport his aunt, an illegal immigrant who was living in Boston.
The Americans for Legal Immigration PAC filed an arrest request with Immigration and Customs Enforcement Monday and issued a public demand for Obama to deport Zeituni Onyango.
Onyango is currently under a court's order to leave the country or be deported, according to ALI-PAC
Onyango is currently living in Ohio and has vowed to fight against being deported. Four years ago, an immigration judge instructed her to leave the country after her request for asylum from her native Kenya was rejected.
"President Obama has promised the American public that his administration will honor the principles of open government, the Constitution and the Rule of Law," said William Gheen of ALIPAC. "Obama must either deport his aunt or destroy his own credibility by showing her favoritism."
Last year, Onyango was found living in Boston. Obama said that he didn't know that one of his relatives was living in the city illegally and believes the appropriate laws should be followed.
A spokeswoman for the Boston Housing Authority said when Onyango was given public housing she met all federal and state standards. The deportation order came a year later, according to Lydia Agro. She said the BHA was never notified of the order.
Link (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/18622945/detail.html)
Wonderful, so now we have to put up with her. This has to be be one of the things that is up there with LibTards trying to take away our 2nd Am Rights. Having gone through the system legally, I find that I have no sympathy that prefer to enter the country illegally.
Lets see if the Messiah gives his Aunt a free ride..........
Supplanter
02-04-2009, 07:03 PM
Is the removal of illegal aliens in the POTUS's job description?
Obama said that he didn't know that one of his relatives was living in the city illegally and believes the appropriate laws should be followed.
So shouldn't ICE just do their job and deport her, it seems like this has sweet f*ck all to do with Obama:roll:
wildcat
02-04-2009, 07:05 PM
Is the removal of illegal aliens in the POTUS's job description?
So shouldn't ICE just do their job and deport her, it seems like this has sweet f*ck all to do with Obama:roll:
Here you are wrong, seeing Obama is the head of the Executive branch and ICE is one of his departments, so it is his job to make sure his departments are following the law.
Is the removal of illegal aliens in the POTUS's job description?
So shouldn't ICE just do their job and deport her, it seems like this has sweet f*ck all to do with Obama:roll:
When the news of Obama's aunt came out during the campaign, President Bush signed an order requiring ICE to get approval before forcibly deporting anyone.
Supplanter
02-04-2009, 07:08 PM
Here you are wrong, seeing Obama is the head of the Executive branch and ICE is one of his departments, so it is his job to make sure his departments are following the law.
It's a conflict of interest so he should excuse himself from any decisions in the case p-)
When the news of Obama's aunt came out during the campaign, President Bush signed an order requiring ICE to get approval before forcibly deporting anyone.
So this is Bush's fault:)
wildcat
02-04-2009, 07:12 PM
It's a conflict of interest so he should excuse himself from any decisions in the case p-)
I don't think he can blow it off like that, being the boss man does not excuse him from the responsibility of the job whether it be a sh!tty job he has to do. I hope he does the right thing, and not get involved. His Aunt deserves the same treatment as any other illegal alien and the same process of law.
Zoomie
02-04-2009, 07:21 PM
ICE should of deported her when she showed up for the Inauguration. Yes, she actually went to it and the parties too.
Vandervahn
02-04-2009, 08:14 PM
Ah, so some self-proclaimed vigilantes abuse a sick woman, "illegal alien" or not, as a tool to get a cheap shot the Pres just because these two are related. This is the ONLY reason why it is even made into an issue - under a guise of overblown righteousness. They cite the "rule of law"; while the rule of law says that noone is above the law, it also says noone is below it. Which means this woman should be dealt with according to standard procedure, and not by decree of the president.
Obscene.
Since when was the law... worth anything?
I'm surprised people are surprised.
Alpheus
02-04-2009, 09:01 PM
Ah, so some self-proclaimed vigilantes abuse a sick woman, "illegal alien" or not, as a tool to get a cheap shot the Pres just because these two are related. This is the ONLY reason why it is even made into an issue - under a guise of overblown righteousness. They cite the "rule of law"; while the rule of law says that noone is above the law, it also says noone is below it. Which means this woman should be dealt with according to standard procedure, and not by decree of the president.
Obscene.
Who are these "self-proclaimed vigilantes"? And if standard procedure was followed, so would've been deported 4 years ago.
Onyango is currently living in Ohio and has vowed to fight against being deported. Four years ago, an immigration judge instructed her to leave the country after her request for asylum from her native Kenya was rejected.
Lefty
02-04-2009, 09:15 PM
Here you are wrong, seeing Obama is the head of the Executive branch and ICE is one of his departments, so it is his job to make sure his departments are following the law.
By that reasoning, Obama should be reviewing the tapes of cops who let you go during traffic stops. If he isn't aware where she is living there isn't much more he can do aside from telling ICE to get on it. I'm not sure what he is supposed to do, screw over family member before going after individuals with criminal records?
You realize that this coul divert potential resources from possibly catching actual bad people wishing harm upon the US just to get this woman.
Btw, some of this "OMGZ OBAMA IS A MUSLIM/TERRORIST/COMMUNIST!" stuff is getting almost as bad as the "GEORGE BUSH IS LIKE HITLER!!!!" stuff. I wonder if people understand what inbreds it makes them sound like.
commanding
02-04-2009, 09:21 PM
how did ya know I was inbred? Banjo give me away?
LineDoggie
02-04-2009, 09:32 PM
Is the removal of illegal aliens in the POTUS's job description?
So shouldn't ICE just do their job and deport her, it seems like this has sweet f*ck all to do with Obama:roll:
Part of that Faithfully uphold the Constitution thingie. If he allows his family to break the law knowingly, and does nothing to make sure the laws are enforced, well, there it is....
2Sheds_Jackson
02-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Well it's kind of silly for his administration to claim ignorance of this woman's location, since they somehow managed to put invitations in her hands.
Hey, Obama has packed his administration with tons of old Clintonistas - he should find Janet Reno and have her go all Elián González on this lady.
jimmyboots
02-05-2009, 12:52 AM
lmao ^^ roflroflrofl
Geezah
02-05-2009, 11:26 AM
By that reasoning, Obama should be reviewing the tapes of cops who let you go during traffic stops. If he isn't aware where she is living there isn't much more he can do aside from telling ICE to get on it. I'm not sure what he is supposed to do, screw over family member before going after individuals with criminal records?
You realize that this coul divert potential resources from possibly catching actual bad people wishing harm upon the US just to get this woman.
It took me 9mths to get my Greencard to move here, I have Vietnamese friends that it took them 10yrs to get their visas to move here.
Now given she was in Boston when found and is now in Ohio(no doubt avoiding the law), the fact that she is related to the POTUS suddenly gives her protection from the law?
This is the Aunty that Obama that had a special place in his heart, depending onhow this plays out, it will no doubt show that Obama has no respect for the law.
I don't know he doesn't just fast track her through the system to get her a visa.
Did I mention how I hate illegals!
Vandervahn
02-05-2009, 01:13 PM
... And if standard procedure was followed, so would've been deported 4 years ago.
Irrelevant as the issue is wether Obama himself should be involved in the deportation of his semi-aunt. Standard procedure obviously is to go after non contributing or even harmful subjects first to maximize benefits.
Just because Obama has the last authority on the process doesnt mean he is obliged to be responsible for how it is put to practise. When my iPod is faulty I can´t demand Steve Jobs to handle my complaint either.
...Now given she was in Boston when found and is now in Ohio(no doubt avoiding the law), the fact that she is related to the POTUS suddenly gives her protection from the law?
Who claims that? All that happens is that she goes through the normal system which often does not throw people out right away. Her status as an illegal immigrant does NOT make her rights-less. Funny thing is that the same malevolent persons that were illegaly leaking her case and publicising it solely to get at the president, not for upholding the law, may give her the ammunition to succesfully claim asylum now, given Kenyas volatile politics.
This is the Aunty that Obama that had a special place in his heart, depending onhow this plays out, it will no doubt show that Obama has no respect for the law.
Don´t claim you give a benefit of doubt when your verdict is already set.
I don't know he doesn't just fast track her through the system to get her a visa.
But fast tracking her to the airport against the usual procedure is somehow a righteous move? His relation to that woman should not have any bearing on the issue, for better or worse; and anyone who demands that Obama himself should handle her deportation does not respect the law and the rule of law himself.
Did I mention how I hate illegals!
Yes, you remind me of an ex smoker complaining about the smell in a cigar club.
Geezah
02-05-2009, 01:21 PM
...Now given she was in Boston when found and is now in Ohio(no doubt avoiding the law), the fact that she is related to the POTUS suddenly gives her protection from the law?
Who claims that? All that happens is that she goes through the normal system which often does not throw people out right away. Her status as an illegal immigrant does NOT make her rights-less. Funny thing is that the same malevolent persons that were illegaly leaking her case and publicising it solely to get at the president, not for upholding the law, may give her the ammunition to succesfully claim asylum now, given Kenyas volatile politics.
Ammunition aside, why is she now in Ohio, when she had a place of residence in Boston?
Again it leads me to think she is trying to avoid the law.
She is in the US illegally and needs to respect the law and leave the country.
Did I mention how I hate illegals!
Yes, you remind me of an ex smoker complaining about the smell in a cigar club.
Do what, are you somehow implying that I was once in this country illegally?
I along with a large number of my friends have gone about entering and staying in this country the right way, but once again the Messiah apologists are out in full force.
Hot Lips
02-05-2009, 08:19 PM
I'm certain given the publicity she has gotten that there are attorneys out there who would clamor to take her case and use our own laws against us to keep her here... especially if O steps over all the immigration employees and bypasses all existing procedures in place to deal with immigration issues. Think of the publicity an attorney that battles the POTUS for interferring with her "rights" would get.
The fact that the media and sourgrapes McCain voters have given her so much attention could give immigration cause to not deport her for her own safety because as a relative of the POTUS she could become a target of violence. That would have ZILCH to do with O playing favorites and everything to do with the way our laws and immigration systems are set up --- long before O was even a player in the game. She already claimed asylum once, seems all this attention on her could potentially give a savvy attorney what they need to justify that claim a 2nd time around.
LineDoggie
02-05-2009, 08:45 PM
BullSh_t, She's an Illegal Alien who was already ordered to be deported. Unless you think a Judge who's already made a decision should be ignored she had her shot and lost. If she was anyone else she'd be gone already.
And the Security canard is laughable, He has family all over Kenya. I dont see anyone claiming the Half Brother who survives on $12 USD a Year is suddenly a target for Terrorists.
Hot Lips
02-05-2009, 09:02 PM
You may laugh and it may very well be bull****, but I won't be surprised if it happens. And it will have nothing to do with O's influence. That's why we have 11 million + illegals in the country now.
What do you propose he do about them? As a whole they cost us far more than his Aunt.
Geezah
02-05-2009, 09:06 PM
BullSh_t, She's an Illegal Alien who was already ordered to be deported. Unless you think a Judge who's already made a decision should be ignored she had her shot and lost. If she was anyone else she'd be gone already.
And the Security canard is laughable, He has family all over Kenya. I dont see anyone claiming the Half Brother who survives on $12 USD a Year is suddenly a target for Terrorists.
Lets not forget the family he has in the UK.
HL, she is an illegal alien that in my mind fled to Ohio to escape deportation.
I think this case is BS, and it erks me when I read about such cases when I know of people that are allot more deserving to be here.
Geezah
02-05-2009, 09:08 PM
What do you propose he do about them? As a whole they cost us far more than his Aunt.
The thing is, his aunt is high profile and by not acting it does nothing to inspire confidence in this new administration that claimed there would be changed, even though he filled it with all the old school Clinton staff.
BearInBunnySuit
02-05-2009, 09:36 PM
The fact that the media...has given her so much attention could give immigration cause to not deport her for her own safety because as a relative of the POTUS she could become a target of violence. That would have ZILCH to do with O playing favorites and everything to do with the way our laws and immigration systems are set up --- long before O was even a player in the game. She already claimed asylum once, seems all this attention on her could potentially give a savvy attorney what they need to justify that claim a 2nd time around.
That's what concerns me too and btw, I think she should be deported.
budgie
02-05-2009, 11:31 PM
It's his aunt for chrissakes, have a heart.
philbob
02-05-2009, 11:37 PM
Im more concerned by the fact 'mister you are your brothers keeper' had his aunt living in a slum and his brother lives in squalor over seas. Doesnt suprise me though...
Zoomie
02-06-2009, 08:53 AM
It's his aunt for chrissakes, have a heart.
Your point being? A criminal is a criminal.
Atlantic Friend
02-06-2009, 09:19 AM
He said the law should be upheld - that definitely hints at deportation. So what else is expected from him now ? Should he personally lead a SWAT team in Ohio or something ?
2Sheds_Jackson
02-06-2009, 09:41 AM
At this level, it's all politics, and the appearance of impropriety. The guy is aware of the issue - and if nothing gets done, then it certainly appears that the relationship trumps the law. All the talk about reform, and the end of personal relationships leading to favorable treatment will amount to nothing if he doesn't follow through. All he'll end up doing, just like always happens in Washington when we go from one party to another, is shifting the nod & wink mode of doing business from one end of the spectrum to the other.
California Joe
02-06-2009, 10:19 AM
Maybe he's been a little bit busy making sh*tty cabinet appointments?
If INS wants to deport her ass they could have picked her up 4 years ago. If she's not supposed to be in the damned country then get rid of her, but don't sit there and pretend that you'd give a fat rats ass if she was the aunt of that black dude that lives down the street. She shouldn't have gone to Ohio to hideout, she should have gone to Cali and hid behind all of those Messicans. Apparently nobody can find them.
If INS wants to deport her ass...
INS, which was part of DoJ, no longer exists. Back in 02-03 they got folded into ICE, which is part of DHS.
California Joe
02-06-2009, 10:31 AM
Thanks Mr. Helper.
Geezah
02-06-2009, 11:46 AM
To be honest, I don't think there is anyone in ICE that is willing to go get her, then tell Joe Public via the media, "hey it was me". If that were to happen then I would say that person would end up with a nice desk job. :(
So his aunty that he cares so much will probably end up staying as no-one in their right mind will touch the POTUS's aunt.
Now did I mention I hate illegals, so much so, that I have been known to sit in the Krogers parking lot getting license plat numbers off of the buses that come in carrying a large number of swimmers.
Also, I carry the INS 1-800 in my wallet.
muttbutt
02-06-2009, 11:53 AM
Now did I mention I hate illegals, so much so, that I have been known to sit in the Krogers parking lot getting license plat numbers off of the buses that come in carrying a large number of swimmers.
Also, I carry the INS 1-800 in my wallet.
Everyone needs a hobby.
Geezah
02-06-2009, 11:57 AM
Everyone needs a hobby.
It all depends how strongly you feel about immigration, considering all of the illegals that come into the country, we have no idea about their background and when you hear of an 8yr old girl being raped by an illegal, it sends a message home. These illegals live amoung us yet there are those that are not prepared to do anything about it.
As to sitting in Krogers parking lot, this was late at night on a Friday, when a bus of produce pickers were scheduled to come in and I passed the information onto the Ohio Chapter of the Minutemen.
I know we no longer see them in Kroger, so scratch one up to the good guys.
loganinkosovo
02-07-2009, 03:42 AM
He can't do it.
If he deported his Aunt he'd have to deport himself.
delio
02-07-2009, 12:40 PM
Even is Obama were to countermand Bush's order to ICE, it (i.e. ICE - the Executive branch) would now need the consent of the pertinent court (i.e. the Judicial branch) before it can deport her.
Atlantic Friend
02-07-2009, 12:41 PM
He can't do it.
If he deported his Aunt he'd have to deport himself.
To deport himself ? US citizens are to be deported now ?
loganinkosovo
02-08-2009, 11:29 PM
To deport himself ? US citizens are to be deported now ?
Sorry buddy, he ain't no U.S. citizen.
He was born in Kenya. He was adopted in Indonesia, which means he had to give up his American citizenship since Indonesia does not accept dual citizenship. He was swanning around Pakistan on an Indonesian passport when he was in college. He has no Birth Certificate. He has no Selective Service Card.
Each one of those things disqualifies him from being an American President and the last in a Felony offense that carries a $250,000 fine, 5 years in Prison and disqualifies him from holding any job in the Executive Branch of our Government.
Greenbird
02-08-2009, 11:50 PM
Sorry buddy, he ain't no U.S. citizen.
He was born in Kenya. He was adopted in Indonesia, which means he had to give up his American citizenship since Indonesia does not accept dual citizenship. He was swanning around Pakistan on an Indonesian passport when he was in college. He has no Birth Certificate. He has no Selective Service Card.
or he was born in hawaii...
California Joe
02-09-2009, 09:34 AM
Sorry buddy, he ain't no U.S. citizen.
He was born in Kenya. He was adopted in Indonesia, which means he had to give up his American citizenship since Indonesia does not accept dual citizenship. He was swanning around Pakistan on an Indonesian passport when he was in college. He has no Birth Certificate. He has no Selective Service Card.
Each one of those things disqualifies him from being an American President and the last in a Felony offense that carries a $250,000 fine, 5 years in Prison and disqualifies him from holding any job in the Executive Branch of our Government.
You are a f*cking moron. We are not debating that retarded issue on here anymore. Complain about the guys policy or how he ****ounces nuclear correctly or any other dumbass thing he does politically but if you want to actually believe that only you and a few other wingnuts know the truth, something the entire RNC apparently completely missed, then you can get the f*ck out of here.
muttbutt
02-09-2009, 10:27 AM
Oh God, your opening a big ol can of worms, if you look around the net, that BC was faked:roll:
Greenbird
02-09-2009, 10:30 AM
Oh God, your opening a big ol can of worms, if you look around the net, that BC was faked:roll:
just out of curiosity, can you link me to it?
I deleted it from my post now though.
muttbutt
02-09-2009, 10:41 AM
just out of curiosity, can you link me to it?
I deleted it from my post now though.Most links go to retarded sites like SF and Aryan nation type **** so I won't be posting them up if it's ok?
This is the Aunty that Obama that had a special place in his heart, depending onhow this plays out, it will no doubt show that Obama has no respect for the law.
Princeps legibus solutus est - The sovereign is not bound by the laws p-)
loganinkosovo
02-11-2009, 01:48 AM
You are a f*cking moron. We are not debating that retarded issue on here anymore. Complain about the guys policy or how he ****ounces nuclear correctly or any other dumbass thing he does politically but if you want to actually believe that only you and a few other wingnuts know the truth, something the entire RNC apparently completely missed, then you can get the f*ck out of here.
Have you ever seen his selective service card?
I had to sign up for selective service even after pulling 4 years on active duty, so this is real important to me.
He never answered any of the questions about his missing documents.
His Grandmother said he was born in Kenya right in front of her eyes.
Who am I to believe? Howard Dean, Rahm Emanuel, et al or Obama's Grandmother?
I have to side with Etta James on this one......
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/020409_etta_james.mp3
You can tell her to get the F*ck out too.
:)
Greenbird
02-11-2009, 02:05 AM
Have you ever seen his selective service card?
I've never seen my dads selective service card, or any of the other above 18 male's that i know, that doesn't mean they dont have them, in fact, its a private document, sooooo, we probably shouldn't be seeing it.
His Grandmother said he was born in Kenya right in front of her eyes.
A cite for this would be great. Plus, i think i'd believe the entire US government, hospital officials, etc over his grandmother.
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