H.R.40 - slave reparations

[redvand]

To acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.

details for H.R. 40 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.40.IH:)

[Bro Jangles]

reparations are Bullsh!t!

A. it was almost 150 years ago
B.Thousand of Americans died to help gain Blacks their freedom. ( A cost more than paid in blood)
C.Take my family for example, we got here in 1914, why should we have to pay a dime? because we are white? sounds kinda racist.

[I can't think of a name]

Of course, I am responsible so I and a bunch of other innocents must pay.

[Bro Jangles]

this bill is a joke, pretty much 8,000,000 to find out if slavery was bad.

[Cedan]

None of those alive today suffered or profited from slavery. Why should there be reparations?

[Russian_dude]

Not to mention many black people got to US after slavery ended. Reparations can only be done by the offending party to the direct claimants. That window ended in late 19th century.

[R/cst]

Instead of repatriation why dont you offer them a free one way ticket back to Africa.

Also will the arab countries be making similar payments as their role in slavery was equal if not greater that that of the western nations ?

[Russian_dude]

There is still slavery in some muslim countries.

[Cedan]

There is still slavery in some muslim countries.

Also in Western countries, if you take into account human trafficking

[BLUE THOR]

Instead of repatriation why dont you offer them a free one way ticket back to Africa.

Also will the arab countries be making similar payments as their role in slavery was equal if not greater that that of the western nations ?
I agree, The Sultanate of Oman (if Im not mistaken) owned Zanzibar, a massive slave port for the Middle East.
I think reparations and apologies are empty gestures that make governments look considerate and win a few more votes.
The aboriginal community of Australia was pushing their agenda of an apology for the "Stolen Generation"- the removal of Aboriginal children based on the assumption that the aboriginal people were a dying race. the children were placed in "white" homes to give them a chance at survivial.
An apology (an admission of guilt) would have paved the way for legal action against the Australian Government. our PM Rudd got around it with some clever wording.
I think we should all move on and put the past where it belongs. the only people with true claim to the reparations are already dead.

[wilhelm]

When are the Italians going to front up to the slavery practised by the Roman Empire?p-) Where can I get my handout?:roll:

[Marshall_Nord]

Al Qaeda should use their resources and help pass this legislation. This bill would damage the country far more than another terror attack.

[Munkz707]

K, this is yet another thing I am currently hating. The day I give ANYONE reparations is the day I put a shotgun in my mouth and play "Spray Munkz Brains All Over the Wall". I wish I could express my total disgust over this. The two Senators that introduced this bill should be publicly drawn and quartered.

[helomech]

John Conyers brought this sh1t up,another fine upstanding politician from the left,here's some of the crap he pops off about among other things,a full investigation into the former Bush Administration:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Conyers_releases_massive_report_on_Imperial_0113.html

http://judiciary.house.gov/news/090126.html


Here's a vid of Conyers wife acting like a total bitch in city council meeting then getting owned by an 8 year girl-priceless!
http://wonkette.com/388543/eighth-grader-owns-monica-conyers-in-debate

[commanding]

Not to mention that many if not most of the (blacks/african americans/ pick your PC name) are not 100% african ancestory, most are mixed blood with Anglos or Native Americans, ......so do they pay reparations also? Take the First Lady, she is by her husbands admission not 100% african ancestry. Therefore if EVERYONE has to pay reparations....what is the point?

[Hilbert]

What a complete waste of time and money.

[LineDoggie]

To acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.

details for H.R. 40 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.40.IH:)Debt paid with the lives of 110,000 Union Soldiers and Sailors

[LongShot]

Wow...all we Natives got was a f*cking apology....

[vryhpyammoadded]

8 Million for 90 days of work?! It’ll probably be an accountant/lawyer researching this with orders to find a way to obscure funneling the most billions into the Federal black hole, errrr sorry, singularity, giving the least back to those supposedly benefiting from this.

Meanwhile, I being a descendent of various American cultures including Native American, Turk, Angolan slaves yet very white after 370 years of Scotts/Irish thinned out melanin, will most likely be robbed of a few hundred dollars to buy off and end some angry militants legal dispute that really is nothing but a money grab leveraged by some greedy lawyers who figured this angle to fleece everyone.

[Kaplanr]

You all seem to be wasting a tremendous amount of emotional equity (not to mention some of you showing your true colors) on a bill that anyone with 1/2 a brain knows is going to die in committee. It's just slightly more worthless than the proposals to add Reagan to Rushmore.

[Chulo]

eh, sounds like another way to pay off for the votes Obama got

[seraosha]

Any reparations need to start with Native Americans.

[redvand]

Any reparations need to start with Native Americans.
Unfortunately they didn't get Obama elected so no payback.

[redvand]

You all seem to be wasting a tremendous amount of emotional equity (not to mention some of you showing your true colors) on a bill that anyone with 1/2 a brain knows is going to die in committee. It's just slightly more worthless than the proposals to add Reagan to Rushmore.
During a normal year, you are right. This year it will get out of committee.
The link on the 1st post has a link for the status of the bill.

[Fallap]

Get over it

[tomonator]

Any reparations need to start with Native Americans.

Casinos are the Native Americans revenge.

[SBL]

eh, sounds like another way to pay off for the votes Obama got
I think this probably originated with certain proponents of the 'civil rights movement',as a means of stoking the flames of dischord. Doubtless the continued employment of certain congressmen depends on the impression that 'the man' is still holding people down.

[junglejim]

Man, that's a lot of money and all we ask for as your former colony is to give us back our damn bells that your Army took. Still no cheese! ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balangiga_bells

[LongShot]

Any reparations need to start with Native Americans.


It would bankrupt the Federal government for a century or more...paying market value for every single acre of land ever taken by force or subversion.



Unfortunately they didn't get Obama elected so no payback.


Oh, yeah, that sure shows us:roll:




Casinos are the Native Americans revenge.

You want to see poverty in the US, visit a reservation.

[tomonator]

You want to see poverty in the US, visit a reservation.

I am sure that is true mate. I was really only speaking for the Foxwood Casino in CT. I think it is the most profitable in the US. No offense.

[Albatross]

This is bullsheet. If I have to pay for reperations I want a damned slave so at least I will get something out of it.

[LongShot]

I am sure that is true mate. I was rally only speaking for the Foxwood Casino in CT. I think it is the most profitable in the US. No offense.


No, your right...the problem is still one of explotation, only done so in a more modern way. Reservations can build casinos, but often (there are a few exceptions) cant afford to do so, so of course larger casino companies such as Harrahs offer to build and manage the casino for a share in net profit....usually a lions share.

While the casinos profit, the locals really dont, save for the ones lucky enough to get a job as a table dealer, janitor, or cook.

[SoftLion]

Certain individuals do still profit from slavery by way of inhertance from former slave owners who had "cheap" labor costs - just saying.


This is bullsheet. If I have to pay for reperations I want a damned slave so at least I will get something out of it.

I dont think anyone really thinks this will happen, but poor choice of words anyway

[Kaplanr]

During a normal year, you are right. This year it will get out of committee.
The link on the 1st post has a link for the status of the bill.

ALL ACTIONS:
1/6/2009:
Sponsor introductory remarks on measure. (CR E9-10)
1/6/2009:
Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
2/9/2009:
Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties.

[Abolith]

No, your right...the problem is still one of explotation, only done so in a more modern way. Reservations can build casinos, but often (there are a few exceptions) cant afford to do so, so of course larger casino companies such as Harrahs offer to build and manage the casino for a share in net profit....usually a lions share.

While the casinos profit, the locals really dont, save for the ones lucky enough to get a job as a table dealer, janitor, or cook.

Been there and seen it. The local Res was smart enough to get investors and keep control and the lion's share of profit and lives have been improving for them for a few years now. New school, new homes, jobs and some business development program. Don't know the current state of affairs but it seems like they did it right and things are getting better

[LongShot]

Been there and seen it. The local Res was smart enough to get investors and keep control and the lion's share of profit and lives have been improving for them for a few years now. New school, new homes, jobs and some business development program. Don't know the current state of affairs but it seems like they did it right and things are getting better


Some reservations are getting smarter, diversifying outside of what is normally "expected" of their reservation rights and taking full advantage of their citizens that have gone to college, or become sucessful in other avenues of business. However there is still much to be done, and in certain rights its an uphill battle.

I, personally, think the idea of a reservation today is offensive, a vestige of a time when we couldn't live peaceably.

[Albatross]

Certain individuals do still profit from slavery by way of inhertance from former slave owners who had "cheap" labor costs - just saying.

Who? Names and companies please.




I dont think anyone really thinks this will happen, but poor choice of words anyway

I don't think so, take your PC crap elsewhere hippy.

[James]

Certain individuals do still profit from slavery by way of inhertance from former slave owners who had "cheap" labor costs - just saying.

Can you name a single person in America who is still profiting from slavery?

[Dominique]

I just wanna know when I gonna get my check ;)

[SoftLion]

Who? Names and companies please.





I don't think so, take your PC crap elsewhere hippy.

I would guess the heirs of the slave owners? Or is that too logical for you?

Now make more funny slave jokes, tool.

[redvand]

Can you name a single person in America who is still profiting from slavery?
Chicago has considered their own reparations law. They were going after any company that started before 1865.:-*$

[LongShot]

I would guess the heirs of the slave owners? Or is that too logical for you?



If you are going to cite something as fact, you really should be prepared to offer evidence to the fact if someone asks...Its good form.

[SBL]

I would guess the heirs of the slave owners? Or is that too logical for you?

So, uh, can you actually name any of these individuals and/or make any direct connections between their current financial status with wealth accumulated via slave labor?

[SoftLion]

So, uh, can you actually name any of these individuals and/or make any direct connections between their current financial status with wealth accumulated via slave labor?

Ill admit that i dont know names of the heirs of slave owner's estates if you admit that these individuals exist - or do you need pictures and signatures Sherlock?

[LongShot]

Ill admit that i dont know names of the heirs of slave owner's estates if you admit that these individuals exist - or do you need pictures and signatures Sherlock?


Heres one for you smartass Link (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/politics/bal-te.obama02mar02,0,3453027.story)

[SBL]

Ill admit that i dont know names of the heirs of slave owner's estates if you admit that these individuals exist - or do you need pictures and signatures Sherlock?
It might help to know these things. Especially if you expect to get any money out of them.:lol:

There's also the small matter of penalizing individuals for something they had no hand in. But don't let that stop you.

[Albatross]

I would guess the heirs of the slave owners? Or is that too logical for you?

Now make more funny slave jokes, tool.

You would guess, eh? As in, you have no clue but are sure there is someone that owes you money? ok, let me grab my checkbook.

If you took offense to that joke you need to get thicker skin. I treat everyone equally, like sh!t. I think you will find this site more to your liking:

http://www.blackpanther.org/

[LineDoggie]

I would guess the heirs of the slave owners? Or is that too logical for you?

Now make more funny slave jokes, tool.


So, in other words, you just felt like running your man pleaser with no facts to back it up.

[c62]

Given that my ancestors are Scottish(and some Welsh mixed in here and there), can I get reparations for the enslavement by the Anglo-Saxons of Britain? Despite the fact that I'm American, and this dates back centuries before my birth it's important to understand we Scotts are still being oppressed by the man (WASPs).

[LineDoggie]

Fight the Powa, brotherman..........................

[SkyUS]

Ridiculous waste of tax payers money. The bill will never make it through.

[California Joe]

Ill admit that i dont know names of the heirs of slave owner's estates if you admit that these individuals exist - or do you need pictures and signatures Sherlock?

F*ck you. I live in a world where Li'l Wayne makes more money in a year than I'll ever see in my lifetime and a half black man was just elected President, by white people. Pretty sure that slavery isn't having the same emotional impact it used to. Get over it. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. John Conyers should shut the f*ck up and put a muzzle on his hag wife.

[tomonator]

F*ck you. I live in a world where Li'l Wayne makes more money in a year than I'll ever see in my lifetime and a half black man was just elected President, by white people. Pretty sure that slavery isn't having the same emotional impact it used to. Get over it. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. John Conyers should shut the f*ck up and put a muzzle on his hag wife.


Eloquently stated sir.

[phigment]

13th, 14th, and 15th amendments.

There are your reparations.

[California Joe]

In fact, now that I think about it I want reparations from Rep. William Jefferson from the money he hid in his freezer. My tax money was surely involved.

And I want some of the million or so bucks given to the "Black P Stones"/El Rukns by the Federal Government back in the 70's for job training that financed orgies and drug trafficking and bought cop assassinations. Cause I find it offensive and it's history. If I was a Hells Angel I'd sue for discrimination.

Our economy is imploding, and the politicians, black and white, that are now the party in power, are riding Obamas good will and mandate for change and digging up their wish lists and acting as if their retarded vision is suddenly possible. It isn't.

[Albatross]

Ill admit that i dont know names of the heirs of slave owner's estates if you admit that these individuals exist - or do you need pictures and signatures Sherlock?


as a matter of fact, flat out FVCK YOU. You are an uneducated moron, of the lowest caliber. You state opinions and want money. I am find it offensive that you call yourself an American. So you can kick ****ing rocks you useless turd. Have you done anything that has improved our country? I seriously doubt it. loser.

[Hollis]

Ill admit that i dont know names of the heirs of slave owner's estates if you admit that these individuals exist - or do you need pictures and signatures Sherlock?



So if your dad owes me money, I can come and collect it from you?

[Cipher]

Reparations are retarded.

[Dominique]

F*ck you. I live in a world where Li'l Wayne makes more money in a year than I'll ever see in my lifetime and a half black man was just elected President, by white people. Pretty sure that slavery isn't having the same emotional impact it used to. Get over it. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. John Conyers should shut the f*ck up and put a muzzle on his hag wife.

CJ, I may have to get you to cut back on your caffeine intake. ;). Seriously, I really don't know of anyone who SERIOUSLY thinks Uncle Sugar is going to hand out checks. My great, great grandfather was born a slave, and while it'd be nice to get fat check from the the government, I don't expect them, or anyone else alive today to pay me for something that happened well over 100 years ago.

Although, if anyone is here is feeling guilty about something one of their ancestors did, and want to send some cash my way, I'll be more than willing to help you with your relieving this heavy burden from your shoulders. Just PM me, and I'll tell you where you can send he check. ;)

Oh, and one last note, 10th albatros, I gotta ask about your avatars, where are you getting them form? I miss the last one you had (the girl in the thong). :(

[2Sheds_Jackson]

These assholes are just punch drunk with all the zeros on the checks they've been signing lately - they can't think straight. Anything is possible yes we can hope and change and all that. But they'll try to use crap like this to as a basis to get something....a few community centers...a couple more freezers full of money etc.

[Bia]

Now make more funny slave jokes, tool.oooo! oooo! me me plz. /raises hand
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn437/biaaib/bialoozzz2.jpg







I refuse to be held accountable for some boatload rumage sale of humans...
my family came here in 1903 and were slaves to the coal mines of Alabama & Illinois.

Pfffffftt

[Kilgor]

Your not a white male, Bia.

You are not guilty of anything .

[Bombtrack]

Pyramids were made by seasonal labourers during the farming off-season, not slaves. Kthx.

[Maine Finn]

So, are there any good ideas in Washington anymore?

[SBL]

So, are there any good ideas in Washington anymore?
Restaurant week.

[Bia]

Pyramids were made by seasonal labourers during the farming off-season, not slaves. Kthx.
Yeah thanks Poindexter just run with it and stop raining on parades I decided against a cotton image due to butt+hurt syndrome yo.

[Dominique]

Haven't the blacks been getting reparations for the past 40-50 years with trillions of dollars in welfare payments, subsidized housing, and a worry free life? Being able to live in a civilised country is the biggest reparation they can recieve. Or else they could simply look at Liberia and see what their lives would be like without White people paying for their rent, food, education, security.

WTF are you on about? Last I checked, I pay my own rent and bills. I hate to rain on your parade, but the largest recipients of welfare in the US are whites. And as far as a worry free life, what f*cking planet do you live on?

[Bombtrack]

Wait I meant to say was Let my people go!

[Dominique]

So, are there any good ideas in Washington anymore?

Yeah, every time some has the idea to get the hell out.

[DeonVDMerwe]

WTF are you on about? Last I checked, I pay my own rent and bills. I hate to rain on your parade, but the largest recipients of welfare in the US are whites. And as far as a worry free life, what f*cking planet do you live on?

Whites make up 70% of American population. Blacks make up only 13%.
The blacks recieve much more than they should considering their % of overall population.

[Bia]

Haven't the blacks been getting reparations for the past 40-50 years with trillions of dollars in welfare payments, subsidized housing, and a worry free life? Being able to live in a civilised country is the biggest reparation they can recieve. Or else they could simply look at Liberia and see what their lives would be like without White people paying for their rent, food, education, security.Poverty = worry free?

Sorry Archie but you're just wrong.
More whites on welfare... fact.
Always has been too... sheer population dynamics schkneegrow.

[DeonVDMerwe]

WTF are you on about? Last I checked, I pay my own rent and bills. I hate to rain on your parade, but the largest recipients of welfare in the US are whites. And as far as a worry free life, what f*cking planet do you live on?

The real people who are hurting in the Western world are the middle class. The poorer lowest class already live on welfare payments, subsidized housing complexes. Miami, Chicago, LA and New York are full of these complexes. The same thing goes on in London, Amsterdam and Berlin. I remember seeing photograph of a sign in an American restaurant: "I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me."

[phigment]

The real people who are hurting in the Western world are the middle class. The poorer lowest class already live on welfare payments, subsidized housing complexes. Miami, Chicago, LA and New York are full of these complexes. The same thing goes on in London, Amsterdam and Berlin. I remember seeing photograph of a sign in an American restaurant: "I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me."
Have you ever actually been to a housing project in the United States? Most people would hardly consider it "living" if they had to stay in one of these places. And most of our lower class don't actually live in them.

The area I live in is lower class by accepted standards, and people most definitely are hurting here.

[DeonVDMerwe]

Poverty = worry free?

Sorry Archie but you're just wrong.
More whites on welfare... fact.
Always has been too... sheer population dynamics schkneegrow.

If you are poor in America or Western Europe, the government takes care of you. Millions live on subsidized housing, welfare, food stamps, have 5 kids and collect more welfare. It is a worry free life. The middle class has to pay for their food, houses, cars, and bills. In reality in this world wide economic crisis, its much more beneficial to be poor than risk having your house foreclosed, losing your job.

[Bombtrack]

Have you ever seen subsidized housing? My guess is you come from a priviledged life.


I didn't know that mold, water damage, electrical problems, heating problems, drug-addicted and mentally ill neighbours, and high crime rates were "worry free".

[DeonVDMerwe]

Have you ever actually been to a housing project in the United States?

I visited America a long time ago. I remember seeing the projects a few times. They look bad because the people who live there have a worry free life. They do not have incentive to do any kind of work. The buildings are for the most part decent but the problem is the lazy people who inhabit them. Piles of garbage surround these projects, crime, rats, and drugs. Had these same projects been turned over to to the White community, they would prosper. From what I hear from my friends in America, Park Slope in Brooklyn was a full of drug addicts, projects and welfare seekers. It was redeveloped and populated by the White community... Isnt it an elite neighborhood now?

[Bia]

If you are poor in America or Western Europe, the government takes care of you. Millions live on subsidized housing, welfare, food stamps, have 5 kids and collect more welfare. It is a worry free life. The middle class has to pay for their food, houses, cars, and bills. In reality in this world wide economic crisis, its much more beneficial to be poor than risk having your house foreclosed, losing your job.I agree on a global scale... the poor in America have it very good.

But to lump blacks into a poverty/parasite class is just not so.
The majority of American blacks are working class(pays taxes)/blue collar/labor.... as are millions of whites.

The ratio of parasitic humans "living it up" on food stamps and 20 dollar rent... are equally and consistantly both races sir.

:P

[Dominique]

Whites make up 70% of American population. Blacks make up only 13%.
The blacks recieve much more than they should considering their % of overall population.

So what do we receive? As I'd really like to know.

[Maine Finn]

The real people who are hurting in the Western world are the middle class. The poorer lowest class already live on welfare payments, subsidized housing complexes. Miami, Chicago, LA and New York are full of these complexes. The same thing goes on in London, Amsterdam and Berlin. I remember seeing photograph of a sign in an American restaurant: "I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me."

The ****, man? Put away your brush, painting broad strokes isn't helping you today.

[Bombtrack]

I visited America a long time ago. I remember seeing the projects a few times. They look bad because the people who live there have a worry free life. They do not have incentive to do any kind of work. The buildings are for the most part decent but the problem is the lazy people who inhabit them. Piles of garbage surround these projects, crime, rats, and drugs. Had these same projects been turned over to to the White community, they would prosper. From what I hear from my friends in America, Park Slope in Brooklyn was a full of drug addicts, projects and welfare seekers. It was redeveloped and populated by the White community... Isnt it an elite neighborhood now?

Wow. Simplifying gentrification into that retarded sentence is astounding.

[LongShot]

The real people who are hurting in the Western world are the middle class. The poorer lowest class already live on welfare payments, subsidized housing complexes. Miami, Chicago, LA and New York are full of these complexes. The same thing goes on in London, Amsterdam and Berlin. I remember seeing photograph of a sign in an American restaurant: "I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me."


I remember seeing a sign that said "Out of touch with what has been going on for 50 years."





just sayn.

[Bombtrack]

He is a White South African from Pretoria, I guess we shouldn't have expected much.

[Dominique]

The real people who are hurting in the Western world are the middle class. The poorer lowest class already live on welfare payments, subsidized housing complexes. Miami, Chicago, LA and New York are full of these complexes. The same thing goes on in London, Amsterdam and Berlin.

What does this have to do with any of your last few posts?


I remember seeing photograph of a sign in an American restaurant: "I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me."

Whoopy, f*cking do, you saw a sign in a restaurant once. You don't even live in the US, yet you want t alk sh*t about us. I'd be more worried about the events in SA, and less about what you perceive to be the flaws of the US.

[Maine Finn]

I visited America a long time ago. I remember seeing the projects a few times. They look bad because the people who live there have a worry free life. They do not have incentive to do any kind of work. The buildings are for the most part decent but the problem is the lazy people who inhabit them. Piles of garbage surround these projects, crime, rats, and drugs. Had these same projects been turned over to to the White community, they would prosper. From what I hear from my friends in America, Park Slope in Brooklyn was a full of drug addicts, projects and welfare seekers. It was redeveloped and populated by the White community... Isnt it an elite neighborhood now?

How the hell did I miss this gem?

Hey, smartass. Since when was the desire for self-improvement dictated by race? I've seen and lived in places where that same scenario exists, but the residents are white. What does that do for your "view"?

[DeonVDMerwe]

I agree on a global scale... the poor in America have it very good.

But to lump blacks into a poverty/parasite class is just not so.
The majority of American blacks are working class/blue collar/labor.... as are millions of whites.

The ratio of parasitic humans "living it up" on food stamps and 20 dollar rent... are equally and consistantly both races sir.

:P

I am not lumping them all into the same mix. What I'm implying is that the major urban areas of America have suffered a drastic decline because of the continuing government policies that promote social welfare, subsidized housng, food stamps and other freebies. The worst neighborhoods in America aren't populated by White welfare recipients, are they? Need I mention Detroit, New York, Miami. Newark, Los Angeles?

[Dominique]

I visited America a long time ago. I remember seeing the projects a few times. They look bad because the people who live there have a worry free life. They do not have incentive to do any kind of work. The buildings are for the most part decent but the problem is the lazy people who inhabit them. Piles of garbage surround these projects, crime, rats, and drugs. Had these same projects been turned over to to the White community, they would prosper. From what I hear from my friends in America, Park Slope in Brooklyn was a full of drug addicts, projects and welfare seekers. It was redeveloped and populated by the White community... Isnt it an elite neighborhood now?

"worry free life", Are you on crack? The reason they look bad is because they don't fix them. as far as them being turned over to whites, you ever been to some of the Irish neighborhoods around Boston, or some of the smaller dirt poor predominately white areas of the county? I seriously doubt it.

[Bombtrack]

Stop feeding the troll, folks.

[Dominique]

He is a White South African from Pretoria, I guess we shouldn't have expected much.

I expect as lot. He gives most of the South Africans I know bad name.

[Policía Loco]

I am not lumping them all into the same mix. What I'm implying is that the major urban areas of America have suffered a drastic decline because of the continuing government policies that promote social welfare, subsidized housng, food stamps and other freebies. The worst neighborhoods in America aren't populated by White welfare recipients, are they? Need I mention Detroit, New York, Miami. Newark, Los Angeles?


The temptation of crime is almost as indiscriminate as a bullet.

[Maine Finn]

Stop feeding the troll, folks.

Can we send him to one of those "lazy poor worry-free" neighborhoods he's rattling on about, instead?

[DeonVDMerwe]

He is a White South African from Pretoria, I guess we shouldn't have expected much.

Is that what is being taught in your liberal textbooks in America?

[Dominique]

Can we send him to one of those "lazy poor worry-free" neighborhoods he's rattling on about, instead?

I can name a few in Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, in the Boston suburbs that are almost 100% white if he'd like to visit.

[Dominique]

Is that what is being taught in your liberal textbooks in America?

No, it's the perception you are giving.

[LongShot]

I can name a few in Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, in the Boston suburbs that are almost 100% white if he'd like to visit.

Dont forget Louisana, Georgia, Michigan, California, Nevada......

[Bombtrack]

Is that what is being taught in your liberal textbooks in America?

No, you're perpetuating the stereotype of what goes along with the "Capital of Apartheid".

[DeonVDMerwe]

Back the topic, if there are no lobby groups that seek to acquire freebies for the specific community in America, what is the point of this ridicolous and racist bill? I bet this idea recieves alot of support among particular circles of the society. Who will be paying the money and to whom? There are no slave owners and no slaves alive in America. Will the Whites have to pay because they are White? The bill does nothing but inflame tensions and those who back the bill know it.

[California Joe]

You, South African guy that's been here once. Shut up.


Now.

[Maine Finn]

I can name a few in Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, in the Boston suburbs that are almost 100% white if he'd like to visit.

Yep. There's also large parts of San Antonio that would work as well. Plus there's the bonus of most likely seeing what's left of him come rolling up to my ER in the back of an AMR rig. :)

[DeonVDMerwe]

No, you're perpetuating the stereotype of what goes along with the "Capital of Apartheid".


No apartheid here anymore. We are all pretty much thrilled to live under the leadership of ANC and soon to be our 5th grade dropout President Jacub Zuma. With every year that goes by in this wonderful ANC run nation, we add a foot of height to our fences and gates.

[tomonator]

I visited America a long time ago. I remember seeing the projects a few times. They look bad because the people who live there have a worry free life. They do not have incentive to do any kind of work. The buildings are for the most part decent but the problem is the lazy people who inhabit them. Piles of garbage surround these projects, crime, rats, and drugs. Had these same projects been turned over to to the White community, they would prosper. From what I hear from my friends in America, Park Slope in Brooklyn was a full of drug addicts, projects and welfare seekers. It was redeveloped and populated by the White community... Isnt it an elite neighborhood now?

This is probably the stupidest thing I've read all night. I was a cop in the "projects" of an American city. Nothing you put in this post, which I wasted my time to read, is accurate. Wind your neck in and stop typing.

[DeonVDMerwe]

You, South African guy that's been here once. Shut up.


Now.

My first time here on this site.

[Policía Loco]

Nice play on the avatar. :cantbeli: