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South Korean hostage has been reportedely beheaded. I just heard this on ABC news.
BAGHDAD, Iraq — A South Korean businessman held hostage in Iraq was beheaded Tuesday, in spite of promises of an extended deadline on his execution, according to Al-Jazeera television.
Kim Sun-il (search ) had been held hostage by suspected Al Qaeda-linked abductors, who originally said they'd kill him Tuesday but then extended that deadline during negotiations, according to Ahmed al-Ghreiri, an employee with the NKTS security firm that is acting as an intermediary.
But his captors apparently changed their mind and executed Kim anyway, Al-Jazeera reported.
No other information about Kim's beheading was immediately available. He is the third kidnapping victim killed in that manner in the past two months.
Earlier Tuesday, the Seoul (search) government said it would evacuate all its citizens working for businesses in Iraq by early July.
NKTS official Kim Hyun-taek had said the captors have asked to negotiate with company president Choi Sung-gab, who will leave for Iraq as early as Wednesday afternoon.
The Muslim extremist captors had originally threatened to kill the 33-year-old Kim if the South Korean government did not cancel its planned deployment of 3,000 troops to Iraq by early Tuesday.
From:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123343,00.html
Herrmannek
06-22-2004, 01:01 PM
:(
NcDeuce
06-22-2004, 01:03 PM
R.I.P.
I want these abductors dead
Marsuitor
06-22-2004, 01:05 PM
This is getting pathetic! :bash:
I'm not one of those killem'all, nuke Iraq, glass parking lot ASAP people, but someone MUST be made a grim example of around those parts.
RIP
Geezah
06-22-2004, 01:07 PM
I hope the brainless monkeys get what's coming to them!
RIP :(
Deckard777
06-22-2004, 01:07 PM
I`m so sad.. :( R.I.P
****heads (terrorist) only deserve to die!!!
stateofequilibrium
06-22-2004, 01:09 PM
RIP.
In the long run though, these seemingly homegrown militants/terrorists are their own worst enemies. Hot-headed murderous idiots not only will get themselves killed, but convince those people in the middle theirs is NOT the path to follow.
Vance
06-22-2004, 01:11 PM
Yup, 'tis what I knew would happen. Exactly.
RIP to this guy. Can i just ask that we don't post links, or pics off this beheading.. I think we had enough of this crap. PLZ. no beheading pics, or link on this thread at least.
CRAZY MERC
06-22-2004, 01:34 PM
F...... savages
anonymous individual
06-22-2004, 01:39 PM
It breaks my heart to hear such sad news.
mack pl
06-22-2004, 01:40 PM
RIP :(
:(
****ing terrorist assholes!!! :bash: :bash:
Herrmannek
06-22-2004, 01:47 PM
I hope the brainless monkeys get what's coming to them!
RIP :(
Calling them brainless monkey dimish their guilt..THose people are fully aware what and how they do... And should be treated acordingly...
He219
06-22-2004, 02:10 PM
RIP Kim Sun-il
My condolences to his family and loved ones ...
:(
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040622/capt.ny19106221702.iraq_south_korea_ny191.jpg
2Sheds_Jackson
06-22-2004, 02:12 PM
RIP to this poor guy. This sh*t is really pissing me off. And it's not just the demented lowlifes that commit the acts - it's the media for being their accomplices. Why the hell are the media playing into their hands and giving them the attention they crave?
That I'm aware of, in no instance has any government agreed to any of the T's demands.
It's obvious that the real purpose of these abductions & murders is not to actually get anything - but rather simply to terrorize. So the way to end these would seem to be to end the dissemination of the video or images of the beheadings. Take away the incentive.
If demands are never met, and images never shown, why would they bother taking the risk for nothing?
Why not institute some kind of restrictions on the dissemination of video or stills of these hostages? I realize that the Internet makes that impossible, but it could be kept off major news outlets in the States. It would seem that the preservation of life would trump any freedom of the press or free speech issues.
Continuing to give these degenerates a platform for millions of people to see them will only encourage them. It's insanity.
Herrmannek
06-22-2004, 02:19 PM
True 2Sheeds, media bear much guilt in escalating those acts...
Who else is getting tired of this crap? I hope S. Korea goes ballistic on these Muthers...
New Foreign Policy:
"For every innocent you execute, 10 "suspected" terrorists will be escorted infront of cameras and shot in the back of the head."
SWORDFISH these guys.
StarvingStudent47
06-22-2004, 02:37 PM
Rest in Peace, Mr. Kim.
Now let's find all those f---s who did this and kill them. Slowly.
big80a2
06-22-2004, 02:39 PM
RIP to these hero.
these terrorist are planting hate. Hope I won't fall for it.
God bless the parents.
Pooga
06-22-2004, 02:50 PM
I wish Allah would strike these banana nut-muffins down. If I were a god I wouldn't want this to be done in my name. What's taking so long (half-facetious)?
What do we do? Wait for the next one and hope that it's not us or someone we know? Is that all we can do? Then we hear the US President come on and ramble on about how the free world cannot be intimidated, blah blah. Do something about it! I don't know a bulletproof plan, that's your job. These guys get out unscathed. And they do it again, and create a fanclub so more do it. Unbelievable.
Operation Ivy
06-22-2004, 02:54 PM
RIP
****em up
Midtown
06-22-2004, 02:55 PM
They need to get all the "out of towners" implanted with homing devices and set up a goddamn trap
KalleBalleSvartSk@lle
06-22-2004, 02:55 PM
They're in a position, where they cannot loose, while the coalition is in a position where they can only loose. Both sides in this conflict are quite similliar to each other, though one is using fear the other more conventional methods.
KalleBalleSvartSk@lle
06-22-2004, 03:17 PM
I wish Allah would strike these banana nut-muffins down. If I were a god I wouldn't want this to be done in my name. What's taking so long (half-facetious)?
What do we do? Wait for the next one and hope that it's not us or someone we know? Is that all we can do? Then we hear the US President come on and ramble on about how the free world cannot be intimidated, blah blah. Do something about it! I don't know a bulletproof plan, that's your job. These guys get out unscathed. And they do it again, and create a fanclub so more do it. Unbelievable.
Read the old testament, and you will see what a god may want to be done in his name....
Fenna
06-22-2004, 03:23 PM
RIP
How they can cut another humans head off is beyond me
instantmilkshake
06-22-2004, 03:26 PM
Remember terrorists have no morals. They don't care about human life.
Low life piece of Sh*ts!!! :fork:
Wilco
06-22-2004, 03:35 PM
South Korea better not just stand there and do nothing about this, they need to show that they will get revenge, possibly deploy combat units.
I wish Allah would strike these banana nut-muffins down. If I were a god I wouldn't want this to be done in my name. What's taking so long (half-facetious)?
What do we do? Wait for the next one and hope that it's not us or someone we know? Is that all we can do? Then we hear the US President come on and ramble on about how the free world cannot be intimidated, blah blah. Do something about it! I don't know a bulletproof plan, that's your job. These guys get out unscathed. And they do it again, and create a fanclub so more do it. Unbelievable.
Read the old testament, and you will see what a god may want to be done in his name....
This man is a true martyr for both Christianity and Democracy....
anonymous individual
06-22-2004, 03:52 PM
True 2Sheeds, media bear much guilt in escalating those acts...
I agree with that too. The media brings unnecessary byproducts in boardcasting such horrible act. It completes the purpose of those terrorists in speading fear among poeple and using that to gain power over them. I do not know why the media, in particular those middle-east boardcasters, would go to such an extense in playing beheaded videos. I've heard middle-east stations claimed violence is part of their lives and people over are used to it. I am fine with that. I am used to seeing thing with goring details in real life, but for the respect to those victims, playing them suffering is disrepectful and distastful. It won't do any justice to them - even the media might claim - other then disturb audience with fear.
ZeroPositive
06-22-2004, 04:04 PM
THE BASTARDS THOSE FRIKING BASTARDS I HATE THEM I HATE THEM ALL THEY ALL DESERVE TO DIE, HORRIBLE DEATHS I HATEEE THEMMMM
Tengu
06-22-2004, 04:06 PM
RIP
ComnGitMe
06-22-2004, 04:09 PM
Its things like this that make me even more determined to complete the 18x program all these idiots do is to drive ppl like me who want it all to stop to strive to finish so we can make them stop and for the idiot Iraqi's who encourage this kind of lunacy you only hurt yourself because when the coalition tightens up on protecting it's assets they will start abducting you next and then what? Allah does not teach this he teaches that all life is sacred and must be protected he teaches this even more so than christianity and yet they still find a way to pervert it
and to the victim sorry that no one could find you in time but do try to rest in peace
Mongrel
06-22-2004, 04:12 PM
I don't get it one can go out and get very small GPS devices that will show the location on a map on your computer where your dog is wandering about, or where your car has been taken, or were your model rocket has landed, and yet there seems to be nothing on these workers in a hostile area.
IMPLANT A GPS SYSTEM! WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY! :slap:
Then go nail these kidnappers.
RIP Korean Dude.
:(
M.
vryhpyammoadded
06-22-2004, 04:17 PM
Dam it!
RIP
Long ago I had the pleasure of working with some ROK soldiers. I would not want to piss them off ever. Now they’re coming to your turf; extremely dumb move terrorists.
Tane concerning what you said on another thread about training more linguists and Intel types, if they would take an old fart like me back I’d go in a second. But, it’s been a no go since two weeks before 9/11. They keep telling me they have enough volunteers. I haven’t given up yet.
Ok so I’ll refrain from my typical gut nuclear response but only because so many here get upset about it.
RFID everyone in Iraq! :lol:
Locked N Loaded
06-22-2004, 04:19 PM
Here we go again...R.I.P.
Nizark
06-22-2004, 04:30 PM
This is ****ing up their cause within the islamic world more than allies taking them out. The saudi public was visably happy when al moqrin was killed, and they are the center of it all...if these beheadings continue in the same frequency, who knows what the overall response will be.
California Joe
06-22-2004, 04:46 PM
This is terrorism in a pure form. It's all about the reaction.
Tane, Argyll, TP, whomever is or has been there recently...What are the restrictions on civilians,not PMC's, carrying sidearms to work? I'm thinking that about now there are 2 things occuring amongst civilian contractors, 1: They are seriously considering leaving. 2: They are seriously considering carrying a weapon and if hijacked, being murdered while fighting back, as that would seem preferable to being beheaded for propaganda purposes at a later date....
mack pl
06-22-2004, 05:00 PM
This is terrorism in a pure form. It's all about the reaction.
Tane, Argyll, TP, whomever is or has been there recently...What are the restrictions on civilians,not PMC's, carrying sidearms to work? I'm thinking that about now there are 2 things occuring amongst civilian contractors, 1: They are seriously considering leaving. 2: They are seriously considering carrying a weapon and if hijacked, being murdered while fighting back, as that would seem preferable to being beheaded for propaganda purposes at a later date....
1) they have big contracts in Iraq, so they will not leave this country
2) I dont know how many civilians are in Iraq, but it could be dozens thousands, so how do you think-is that possible to give them all weapons?
btw not all people have some skills to using guns, Im guess(they are civilians, not soldiers).
So, maybe this companys should employ(sp.) more PMCs, and more local Iraqis bodyguards or something like that.
Regards
Mongrel
06-22-2004, 05:04 PM
You couldn't pay me enogh to work in that country as a civillian.
:(
M.
Fintin
06-22-2004, 05:09 PM
this is getting friggin nuts...do they really think this is going to get them anywhere?
Hullebullen
06-22-2004, 05:31 PM
R.I.P....
Roger Rabbit
06-22-2004, 05:42 PM
This is terrorism in a pure form. It's all about the reaction.
Tane, Argyll, TP, whomever is or has been there recently...What are the restrictions on civilians,not PMC's, carrying sidearms to work? I'm thinking that about now there are 2 things occuring amongst civilian contractors, 1: They are seriously considering leaving. 2: They are seriously considering carrying a weapon and if hijacked, being murdered while fighting back, as that would seem preferable to being beheaded for propaganda purposes at a later date....
If civilians were to start carrying sidearms to work then perhaps they should be given instructions in how and when to use them to prevent or reduce any accidents.
Pooga
06-22-2004, 05:46 PM
this is getting friggin nuts...do they really think this is going to get them anywhere?
They want to go backwards.
MARINO
06-22-2004, 05:47 PM
RIP
king_nothing100
06-22-2004, 05:48 PM
Fvcking primatives, they should go back to living in their caves and drawing on the walls, they obviously haven't evolved much from that point anyway so it wouldn't be much of a loss for them, hope some coalition soldier finds one of these ****bags in their iron sights soon enough.
RIP
Skullknight
06-22-2004, 05:53 PM
I wonder if they will pull off beheading the other 10 hostages they have.
usa320
06-22-2004, 05:53 PM
South Korea should not only refuse to give in to the damands, but they should deploy combat units to get payback as quickly as possible, a means of showing them they S. Korea dont ****...
Unfortunately Spains move to withdraw troops set a very, very bad precedent for the terrorists.
BlackRain
06-22-2004, 05:57 PM
I dont remember who posted this yesterday but they were correct.
The Korean was dead the moment the terrorists captured him. They simply used him for their own public relations needs and executed him. The terrorists killed the Korean in the Wahhabi tradition of dealing with infidels.
The terrorist do not realize that they are only harding world opinion against their cause and improving the gravitas of George Bush. He and a few coaltion members are the only ones seriously doing anything about the "Islamist problem".
Wait till the terrorist start conducting operations in western countries and see how quickly world opinion changes. We are really in the middle of world war 3.
Khabbi
06-22-2004, 06:05 PM
RIP :petting:
times like this I really feel like Iraq should be nuked and pawed over .
Trigger
06-22-2004, 06:07 PM
Rest In Peace
Yet another martyred saint...
Omz222
06-22-2004, 06:09 PM
RIP.
May the man be blessed for what he've been doing, risking his life and wellbeing to bring better lives to Iraqis, only finding Muslim extremeists terrorists interrupting someone else's business.
DPGLAW
06-22-2004, 07:15 PM
This pisses me off to the point that I can barely put it into words. These god damn ragheads have absolutely no respect for human life. We need to begin to treat them the way that they are treating these innocent people that they are beheading, they have done nothing wrong to the people of Iraq. They have done nothing but help. These damn sandnig*ers need to get a taste of their own medicine. All we do is try to arrest them so that they can be prosecuted, we need to show them that we can be just as ruthless as they are. We should start to toutre prisoners which we capture for being any part, no matter how small it was, of these crimes against nick Berg, Paul Johnson, and now a South Korean citizen.....If we start to use torture on these things when we capture them then I think it might keep some of the other rags form doing the same thing for fear of suffering at the hands of their American captors. Now they don't even care about getting caugh tby the US, when in custody they are probably in better conditions than they were while free and that is not right. The other thing I think that we should do is to RAZE one of these cities that all these terrorists inhabit. I mean I know that some civilians will be killed but I really don't care. They are supporting these terrorists, if not actively, passively by not pointing them out. President Bush made a statement that we would go after terrorists and those who harbor them. I think that the citizens of these town such as Najar, Fallujah, etc. are harboring terrorists by not showing us who they are so in as far as im concerned, they should die too. I would be extatic if I saw a news film of a MOAB exploding in one of these towns.
I knwo that alot of people on here will disagree with be and say that the aforementioned suggestions for dealing with these ragheads is barbaric. However, I sayy too bad. Obviously our current methods of being dipolmatic are not working and have never worked. These people do not understand diplomacy, the only thing they understand is violence so I say give it to em' and kill em' all.
seruriermarshal
06-22-2004, 07:31 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040622/i/r4241573096.jpg
Now no more time for our , Stop these sh*t , I think first use B-52 attack Fallujah and Ramadi !
:fork:
RavenW
06-22-2004, 07:33 PM
..... again all words seem senseless... RIP
.... and Koreans were there to help with reconstruction and free medical assistance for Iraqi people...
those who did it are f...cking animals
United Strike
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/564_1087947794_poster.jpg
RIP :petting:
times like this I really feel like Iraq should be nuked and pawed over .
times like this when I really feel bush is a ****ing cocky ignorant dumbass
DE_Six
06-22-2004, 07:41 PM
:(
I'm sorry, but...f*cking savages.
DPGLAW
06-22-2004, 07:50 PM
FutureMarine.....That was a real dumbass comment.....how is President Bush responsible for these ragheads cutting off hostages heads, please explain that nonsensical comment to me. He ordered his military to invade Iraq but did not in any way,shape or form have anyhting to do with these hostages being beheaded. Before you go and beome a Marine as your SN says you might want to try to have even a passing understanding of war; people die in war, thats a fact of life as unfortunate as it is. There is no way that it can be a leaders fault....i really bet that he said to himself last March "hmm....I think next June I will make sure that some hostages get beheaded" think about your comment, it makes no sense.
ComnGitMe
06-22-2004, 08:25 PM
no offense dpg while I agree with you about the IDIOCY of that comment. Were you not the one using racial slurs in his if I recall sand ******s is what you used. Unfortunately that comment right there is far less intelligent than the stupidity that fm spouted. I understand that the news has you severly angered I am angered as well but as you can see most of the people here found something intelligent to say or they said nothing at all
Ratamacue
06-22-2004, 08:32 PM
Hey FM, I don't know whether you realize this, but that man was South Korean and most likely went to Iraq under his own free will. Regardless of how you feel about the war, how is Bush responsible for the kidnapping and murder of a foreign citizen?
I believe there are still other hostages.. Can anyone elaborate on this. I hope they make it out.
BTW. Stop bringing in politics into this, this thread is about a dude getting his head cut off for making a better Iraq.. Leave partisan crap outta this.
Tane Angle
06-22-2004, 10:09 PM
Rest in peace.
DevGru77, there are still other hostages and POWs out there, being held by a varierty of groups.
While there are things lacking that could aid in securing hostages, I would certainly not say any of the hostage takings are Bush's fault, as that would denote his involvement, and let's face it, like him or dislike him, he's not involved. On the other hand, FutureMarine didn't say that he was blaming President Bush, so perhaps he is just frustrated at the war overall. Seems we all might be reading into his post a bit too much. We'll have to ask.
I think DevGru77 makes a very good request; let's save the politics for a different thread on a different day please.
DPGLAW, I've asked you several times to refrain from using such slurs here. How is "ragheads" any better a word to use than "terrorists?" I'd like to think that I understand your frustration at the hostage crisis, but let's be respectfully specific in who we are talking about, no? Otherwise, how is a dull person such as myself to know who you are talking about? From what you said, it sounds like you are angry at women who dry their hair in the mornings. Such slurs offend me, so I would ask you not to use them. Thank you very much.
Let's all be respectful of the dead, please. I know that we are respectful people, no? Thank you very much. Take care and have a good one all, and just some thoughts...
Pooga
06-22-2004, 10:28 PM
I think there's around 30 people still missing… :(
xjym2002
06-22-2004, 10:28 PM
That's so sad.
Hope those COWARDs get what they deserved!
[add] Sometimes I feel terrorism have gained its success in unexpected forms -- to downgrade ourselves closer to their level. I'm worring about any mistreatness to innocent Iraqis by Korean troops being on trip.
Seoulstriker
06-22-2004, 10:32 PM
This is f***ing sick. These savages are cutting off the heads of innocent people for the sake of Islam and terrorism. :fork: These f***ers deserve to die. :fork:
Pooga
06-22-2004, 11:16 PM
I'm worring about any mistreatness to innocent Iraqis by Korean troops being on trip.
Not gonna happen, and if it does I will eat my ears. Worry about someone else who needs worrying at the moment.
Durandal
06-22-2004, 11:43 PM
This is getting pathetic! :bash:
I'm not one of those killem'all, nuke Iraq, glass parking lot ASAP people, but someone MUST be made a grim example of around those parts.
RIP
Too true...
ZeroPositive
06-22-2004, 11:46 PM
RIP god I feel so sorry for this guy.... I dunno why probably as I grew up with a lot of Korean friends...
Operation Ivy
06-22-2004, 11:48 PM
I hated when they showed the video of him begging for his life on TV, his screamimg made me feel so sorry for him :(
superpeltor
06-23-2004, 12:32 AM
thanks for all the support. As a Korean nationality, I am outraged with outcome of this hostage situation.
Iraq, You started first. We are going to payback BIG TIME!!!
very very angry Korean,
superpeltor
American Patriot
06-23-2004, 01:12 AM
Not pacifying Fallujah will prove to be the biggest mistake of the current JCS
VorpalDoom
06-23-2004, 03:25 AM
its a political situation sadly. I'd love to see fallujah completely wiped off the face of the planet. But, that would simply piss off iraqis, which is what we cant do if we want to win this war in both political and military senses.
RIP...
And god bless the koreans for showing up and understanding what the war is about, plus they're sending 3000 more troops. THAT is the kind of response that needs to be givin every time these ****ers murder someone. Like those 4 marines that were shot in the head. I belive that constitutes sending 12,000 more soldiers over there.
Koreans have the right idea. These terrorists just dont get it... drop one bomb on us, we drop 100 on you, and each is bigger, better, stronger, faster, blah blah blah. kill one of us, we kill 100 of you more efficently, faster and quicker. they're fighting a losing battle so they think they can win with a form of psycological warfare.
again, RIP to the dead in that past week. Fallujah needs to be bitch slaped with some spectre gunships if i may say so myself.
scrybe
06-23-2004, 03:28 AM
This is truely unfortunate.
Scottie
06-23-2004, 04:59 AM
****ing **** sucking bitch licking asses!!!! Arrghggghgh!!#!"!#%¤!%"#%#"%"#"%"#%""#%
Faens Jævla fitter!!!!!
LET THEM BURN FROM ****ING HEAD TO TOE!!!! HOW THE **** WOULD THEY FEEL IF WE BEHEADED THERE SON ?????????????EH EH??? **** THEM! :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :-*$ :-*$ :-*$
ch703
06-23-2004, 05:06 AM
man those f'in som' bitches i wish i was there,just countin months till im 17 :fork:
ch703
06-23-2004, 05:08 AM
i wouldnt be suprised if the next president of U.S. pulls out of this war
Operation Ivy
06-23-2004, 09:15 AM
i wouldnt be suprised if the next president of U.S. pulls out of this war
He better not pull out till the job is done
J.P.97
06-23-2004, 09:37 AM
As a Korean natiaonal and former ROK soldier my deepest condolences goes out to Mr.Kim.
May he rest in peace.
As for those mother***** expect some pissed of 3000 ROK men in their streets.
and more enroute to Iraq to 'preserve peace and order".
J.P.97 out
J.P.97
06-23-2004, 09:42 AM
South Korea better not just stand there and do nothing about this, they need to show that they will get revenge, possibly deploy combat units.
I have every confidence in South Koreas government to send its troops to Iraq.
Or any other country in need. Should the government sees fit.
I also believe that this is just merely the start of troop deployment there.
*edit*
FYI- South Korea is the third largest force in Iraq, U.S. being the most then U.K. the second.
I know for a fact that if the ROK finds these goons, there is going to be more than hell to pay.. The problem is, well, finding them in the first place.
Marsuitor
06-23-2004, 11:12 AM
I remember reading about a hostage taking that occured in Beirut a good few years ago. I was somehow fascinated by the way it was solved.
If i remember correctly, the whole case was some Russian businessman who was held for ransom by a terrorist group.
The Russian government started negotiations for the purpose of buying time while they sent some antiterror team to town, believe it was Spetzgruppa Alpha, not too enlightened on Russian SF.
Anyhow, these guys rather quickly managed to track down where the hostage, along with the takers, was being held, and used a couple of days to track the routines and security measures of the terrorists. There would daily be one guy who went out to "conduct business". So one day they nabbed him, held him for questioning, beheaded him and sent the severed head in a box to the kidnappers by post. Undoubtedly a big risk too take with regards to the hostage life, but he was released quickly and unconditionally. What happened to the rest of the hostage takers i can't remember.
If you put this into today's situation, it reflects the methods i would most like to see, although it's highly politically uncorrect. Maybe the west can take some lections from eastern methods, if the hostage is damned anyway then why not make the mother whoring bastards piss themselves atleast?
Cheers,
Marcus
Praetorian 05
06-23-2004, 11:31 AM
You fight fire with fire. General Pershing quelled a Muslim uprising by dealing with insurgents in a way that they can comprehend.
When you deny a Holy warrior his chance to meet Allah. You take the fight out of him.
These people aren't dediated to the cause, they are ignorant. They live in poverty, so it's not hard for them to be manipulated through their religion to go to a better place.
Seven virgins in paradise! Sounds great to a dude who spent all his life in a craphole with smelly, ugly women.
SpikeATGM
06-23-2004, 11:37 AM
This is damn sick. No amount of hatre can justify this sort of killing.
I can't imagine a normal person will bear to kill innocence especially he pleaded so desperately for his life.
Secret Squirrel
06-23-2004, 11:41 AM
You fight fire with fire. General Pershing quelled a Muslim uprising by dealing with insurgents in a way that they can comprehend.
When you deny a Holy warrior his chance to meet Allah. You take the fight out of him.
These people aren't dediated to the cause, they are ignorant. They live in poverty, so it's not hard for them to be manipulated through their religion to go to a better place.
Seven virgins in paradise! Sounds great to a dude who spent all his life in a craphole with smelly, ugly women.
The supposed thing Pershing did with 49 terrorists is a proven urban legend that has no bearing in reality.
Black Dots
06-23-2004, 12:56 PM
The supposed thing Pershing did with 49 terrorists is a proven urban legend that has no bearing in reality.
Here's the link:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm
snake
06-23-2004, 01:47 PM
The thing that truely pisses me off is that these COWARDS will not stand and fight the infidel invaders
They have to pick on the weak and people who can't fight back
Then they behead people just for the political value
Cowards one and all
Snake
Praetorian 05
06-24-2004, 05:31 AM
The supposed thing Pershing did with 49 terrorists is a proven urban legend that has no bearing in reality.
This may be true that Pershing can't take credit for such an act. But "Reality" is this; If you have thought of something, chances are it's already been done. I feel almost certain in saying that one of my fellow Noncoms has put this theory to practice, inorder to prevent the loss of one or another of his Soldiers! If you think this is farfetched, then you don't know American Soldiers like I do.
Secret Squirrel
06-24-2004, 07:09 AM
The supposed thing Pershing did with 49 terrorists is a proven urban legend that has no bearing in reality.
This may be true that Pershing can't take credit for such an act. But "Reality" is this; If you have thought of something, chances are it's already been done. I feel almost certain in saying that one of my fellow Noncoms has put this theory to practice, inorder to prevent the loss of one or another of his Soldiers! If you think this is farfetched, then you don't know American Soldiers like I do.
Show me the primary documents.
Praetorian 05
06-24-2004, 10:14 AM
I said NONCOMS, we're not idiotic enough to document things that don't need to be written. We don't Knock rings or hold Teas; we get the job done!
Refer to the O-Club for documentation.
By the way; you are sounding a little Computer Geekish in your posts. Tone it down a bit if you can. It's not becoming.
Secret Squirrel
06-24-2004, 10:19 AM
I said NONCOMS, we're not idiotic enough to document things that don't need to be written. Refer to the O-Club for documentation.
Assumption is the first step to idiocy.
Praetorian 05
06-24-2004, 10:29 AM
Assumption is not the first step to idiocy.
Obviously you don't have a Military background, or you would know what assumption is.
Secret Squirrel
06-24-2004, 10:52 AM
Assumption is not the first step to idiocy.
Obviously you don't have a Military background, or you would know what assumption is.
keep trying to climb out of that hole. Theres no shame is being suckered into believing an urban legend. woot
budanski
06-24-2004, 10:59 AM
http://www.savefile.com/users/uploads/suicidepig1.jpg
Praetorian 05
06-24-2004, 11:17 AM
keep trying to climb out of that hole. Theres no shame is being suckered into believing an urban legend
You're absolutely right. If I had as much time as you on a computer I'm sure I would know everything like you. But since I chose to make a difference on the ground, and not on a computer, you have me there.
While you sit and scan to interdict postings, I go to my post to scan for and interdict the Scumbags that caused this post to begin with.
Have a nice and wonderful life.
Black Dots
06-24-2004, 11:59 AM
This may be true that Pershing can't take credit for such an act. But "Reality" is this; If you have thought of something, chances are it's already been done. I feel almost certain in saying that one of my fellow Noncoms has put this theory to practice, inorder to prevent the loss of one or another of his Soldiers! If you think this is farfetched, then you don't know American Soldiers like I do.
OK, so by extension, everything that is conceivable has already happened and therefore this story about Pershing, although uncorroborated, must be true? Give me a break.
Theres no shame is being suckered into believing an urban legend.
Only if you look into it and feel the evidence supports the claim. Otherwise, I can't think of anyone who would like to be thought of as a fool.
Praetorian 05
06-24-2004, 12:07 PM
I feel almost certain in saying that one of my fellow Noncoms has put this theory to practice, inorder to prevent the loss of one or another of his Soldiers!
Can you two Brainiacs read between the lines? When it comes to the real deal alot of stories go unwritten. I know what I've seen, you know what you've read.
Enough said. I'd like and stay and chat with you educated individuals, but my down time is almost up.
Secret Squirrel
06-24-2004, 12:16 PM
keep trying to climb out of that hole. Theres no shame is being suckered into believing an urban legend
You're absolutely right. If I had as much time as you on a computer I'm sure I would know everything like you. But since I chose to make a difference on the ground, and not on a computer, you have me there.
While you sit and scan to interdict postings, I go to my post to scan for and interdict the Scumbags that caused this post to begin with.
Have a nice and wonderful life.
My knowledge comes from undergraduate and graduate degrees.
budanski
06-24-2004, 12:19 PM
My knowledge comes from undergraduate and graduate degrees.
Hooked on Phonics worked for me.
Trigger
06-24-2004, 12:23 PM
My knowledge comes from undergraduate and graduate degrees.
Hooked on Phonics worked for me.
Overachiever :D
Secret Squirrel
06-24-2004, 12:23 PM
My knowledge comes from undergraduate and graduate degrees.
Hooked on Phonics worked for me.
rofl
Actually it was/is coffee and eye drops.
Black Dots
06-24-2004, 12:30 PM
When it comes to the real deal alot of stories go unwritten. I know what I've seen, you know what you've read.
OK, anonymous guy posting on the Internet. If you really saw stuff like you mentioned, you'd most likely keep quiet, because as you pointed out:
we're not idiotic enough to document things that don't need to be written.
clarkjw
06-24-2004, 01:39 PM
I have seen the video of this beheading. It is very similiar to the Nick Berg beheading. To me the video is more graphic. He begged for his life to be spared, until the end.
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