Should we execute fraudsters?

[SoSo]

Should people found guilty of particularly egregious white-collar crimes face the death penalty? They do in China.

[PUG]

No. What a ridiculous proposition.

[Chulo]

Should people found guilty of particularly egregious white-collar crimes face the death penalty? They do in China.
Is there any crime in China that does NOT face a Death penalty?

[LineDoggie]

:bash:
Should people found guilty of particularly egregious white-collar crimes face the death penalty? They do in China.
For Madoff, I'll provide the rope. He ****ed Great Neck, LI over big time. Now I hear the wife withdrew 15 Million days before the Feds swooped in.

Every member of his organization needs to seriously looked at.

Every member of his Immediate Familys Finances need to be audited

[LongShot]

Is there any crime in China that does NOT face a Death penalty?


Accidentally working an 18 hour day.



wait......

[Policía Loco]

No, but I would be for the death penalty for *** crimes. Mandatory.

[PUG]

I don't think that China is an example to lead by in this situation.

[LineDoggie]

Is there any crime in China that does NOT face a Death penalty?

Suicide...............................................

[Alpheus]

Make them pay a "fraud" tax. The amount should be the $$ they swindled, payable each year.

[oldsoak]

Why ? A kick in the fork by the victims would be so much more satisfying :-P
@alphaeus - yep, get 'em to pay it back.

[Chulo]

Suicide...............................................
bull... im sure they would execute you for doing a poor job at it


no.. really.. is there any crime that has NOT had a death penalty attached to it?
Drugs- death
Pirate (*arggggg type) Death
Pirate (CDs Movies)- Death
Not doing a good job - Death
Fraud - Death
*** crimes - Death

[LineDoggie]

bull... im sure they would execute you for doing a poor job at it


no.. really.. is there any crime that has NOT had a death penalty attached to it?
Drugs- death
Pirate (*arggggg type) Death
Pirate (CDs Movies)- Death
Not doing a good job - Death
Fraud - Death
*** crimes - Death
spamming MP.Net -3yuan per post and the ire of us

[Gerry301]

Congressmen/women/Senators who are convicted of dishonesty should be hanged in public. Perhaps their image would change for the better as well as their behavior.

[NoRestForTheWeary]

No. They should have their assets seized, be forced to wear an "I stole your money" sign on their chest, and have to live in public housing for the rest of their life.

That, or be put it prison and be forced to take showers with Teflon coated oven mitts.

[Carib]

No. They should have their assets seized, be forced to wear an "I stole your money" sign on their chest, and have to live in public housing for the rest of their life.

That, or be put it prison and be forced to take showers with Teflon coated oven mitts.


Yes. Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins.

a slap on the wrist or 15 years will be all that this Madoff guy gets. he's got money and with money you can buy urself out of a hard sentence with good lawyers.

[Chulo]

Yes. Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins.

a slap on the wrist or 15 years will be all that this Madoff guy gets. he's got money and with money you can buy urself out of a hard sentence with good lawyers.
Greed seems to be a problem when its someone one that makes more than you (generic you)

[deagle]

in extreme cases, yes. they already took the lives from their victims.

[ronnieraygun]

Greed seems to be a problem when its someone one that makes more than you (generic you)

Bernie Madoff. I'm just so jealous. :-(

[Carib]

haahah seriously

[Decadence]

Should people found guilty of particularly egregious white-collar crimes face the death penalty? They do in China.

Yes.
Damn, the answer is too short.

Kind-of and No . No - money shouldn't be worth killing for, Kind-of - abusing trust should be worth serious punishment.

[BlackFlag]

Yes. Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins.



So is lust. Should I be executed for going to Strip Clubs? :roll:

How about sloth..Should mp.net members with 20k+ posts be executed?

If you are going to say yes, come up with a better reason than religion.

[SoSo]

http://www.mkmuseum.org.uk/edu/cep/sc/images/pillory.jpg

Should we pillory white-collar criminals? The ones who commit less serious crimes, that is. What does everybody think? Would public humiliation deter crime?

[LaoSexMachine]

I say we execute for fraud. Lock thread.

[BlackFlag]

In before lock.

[ronnieraygun]

I would answer and put thought into it, but Soul Plane is on in 15 minutes, sucka.

[tyovan]

Madoff committed what is nearly treason - he screwed over the entire country.
I swear, sometimes the Bolsheviks were on to something. Put this guy up before a people's court, shoot him if found guilty, and have the government seize his assets.

Wall street should be happy I don't call the shots

[Aerosoul]

No .

[ZARDOZ]

Line them up against walls. The damage they do is far greater to a greater amount of individuals than the Taliban and Al-Q. Lives ruined, poverty, damage to national economic strength which in turn weakens national strength. Profit is not a bad thing, but unbridled greed is.

They are traitors, treat them as such.

Oh and "in" before lock

[Walter Sobchak]

Do it only if we include members of CONgress.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

I really don't know but what gets up my hump is that Madoff after 6 years in a soft prison and a book deal will be laughing his ass off.

[Bia]

Is there any crime in China that does NOT face a Death penalty?Best reply all week.^


:P

[Itamajus]

They are economic terrorists and should be delt like terrorists. Btw tax inspection should also do theyr job, checking theyr relatives.

[ayanami_tard]

bull... im sure they would execute you for doing a poor job at it


no.. really.. is there any crime that has NOT had a death penalty attached to it?
Drugs- death-ftw
Pirate (*arggggg type) Death-shoot on sight
Pirate (CDs Movies)- Death-nope,we(i mean they) love these pirates.consider a photoshop CS4 software copy for us$3
Not doing a good job - Death-nope,but sure there are millions other want the job
Fraud - Death
*** crimes - Death

fixed.

and one other crimes with death penalty;tainting milk

[Chulo]

fixed.

Pirate (CDs Movies)- Death-nope,we(i mean they) love these pirates.consider a photoshop CS4 software copy for us$3
Not doing a good job - Death-nope,but sure there are millions other want the joband one other crimes with death penalty;tainting milk

Not doing a good job - Death-
China Executes Ex-Food and Drug Chief (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12776108&ft=1&f=17)

[rgjbloke]

Should people found guilty of particularly egregious white-collar crimes face the death penalty? They do in China.

No, we should not.

[Satarn]

Line them up against walls. The damage they do is far greater to a greater amount of individuals than the Taliban and Al-Q. Lives ruined, poverty, damage to national economic strength which in turn weakens national strength. Profit is not a bad thing, but unbridled greed is.

They are traitors, treat them as such.

Oh and "in" before lock

I agree, they have messed up much more lives than any terrorist can ever do.
And because of their greed and stupidity there is in fact less money to defend against terrorists and equip troops in A'stan & Iraq.

Hang 'm, hang 'm high

[Macs.]

No.


Madoff committed what is nearly treason - he screwed over the entire country.

It was a Ponzi scheme, nothing new really. Just in a big dimension.

And if you see this from the bigger view - Madoff never could have gotten the amount of money without people who always wanted more, without doing any real work. More, more, more and absolute no risks. You want 20% more money every year without doing any real work, and get scammed by some dork ? **** 'em.

[Kaplanr]

No.

It was a Ponzi scheme, nothing new really. Just in a big dimension.

And if you see this from the bigger view - Madoff never could have gotten the amount of money without people who always wanted more, without doing any real work. More, more, more and absolute no risks. You want 20% more money every year without doing any real work, and get scammed by some dork ? **** 'em.

Just saw a Rockford Files where Howard Duff (in cahoots with a very sexy Joan van Arkin) flim-flams Rockford and then gets counter screwed for the tidy sum of .... $200,000. They all make the scams look so easy.

[timetraveller]

They should be put in Stocks where us people can throw rotten fruit and veg at em on a daily basis ...

[Macs.]

Just saw a Rockford Files where Howard Duff (in cahoots with a very sexy Joan van Arkin) flim-flams Rockford and then gets counter screwed for the tidy sum of .... $200,000. They all make the scams look so easy.

Alot of scams are very easy and basic. The amount of Ponzi schemes happening every year in a big million-scale is uncountable.

Around 10-15 years this happened in my city - A new company was having a new special way of putting pipes under roads without really opening the roads and destroying them. Big bang, billion euro business, CEO with a big mouth.

He was a fraudster and blew up the business. Scammed banks with faulty lease business etc etc. One thing I loved the most about the story was how he convicted his investors/banks - He would invite them to visit construction sites where his machines were already being used. Problem was that 90% of the machines he claimed that were sold have just been sold... On the paper, they didn't get really sold.

So he welcomed them in his big office building, put them in a bus and drove them to a construction site - Let the people walk around and look at the construction site and let the mechanic tell them how great it works. Then put the investors/bank people into a bus and drove them to the best restaurant and fill them up with expensive food and drinks. While they were eating, the mechanics put the machine onto a trailer, put another serial number on it and drove it to another construction site. Later the investors visited this construction site and basically looked at the same machines again, thinking that this company was really selling the loads of machines they claim.

2.6 Billion Euro "wasted" in the end.

I love stories like this.

[Mordoror]

Not doing a good job - Death-
China Executes Ex-Food and Drug Chief (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12776108&ft=1&f=17)


he was executed for corruption so you can say that he didn't do a good job (hiding he was a corrupt) but still this a something much like the Madoff case

death penalty for white collars
My mind says no, not the same level than child ****** abusers and such kind of deserving it people
My heart says "Hang them by the balls and let them rot under the sun "

[Connaught Ranger]

Alot of scams are very easy and basic. The amount of Ponzi schemes happening every year in a big million-scale is uncountable.

Around 10-15 years this happened in my city - A new company was having a new special way of putting pipes under roads without really opening the roads and destroying them. Big bang, billion euro business, CEO with a big mouth.
I love stories like this.

FLO-JET by any chance?

[Macs.]

FLO-JET by any chance?

FlowTex.

http://www.economy-point.org/f/flowtex.html

[Connaught Ranger]

FlowTex.

http://www.economy-point.org/f/flowtex.html

Thanks for the correction.:)

Nearly right, I remember watching a documentary on the scam when living in Bavaria, seems he got involved in some scam with an airport as well?

Connaught Ranger.:)

[Macs.]

Thanks for the correction.:)

Nearly right, I remember watching a documentary on the scam when living in Bavaria, seems he got involved in some scam with an airport as well?

Connaught Ranger.:)

Yeah ! Baden Airport, that was a old Canadian airbase that he wanted to transform into a commercial airport with all kind of businesses.

I went to kindergarten with his son.

[Gerry301]

No, we should not.

I believe Ghengas Khan had thieves dealt with by pouring molton silver in their eyes.

[Hot Lips]

Should people found guilty of particularly egregious white-collar crimes face the death penalty? They do in China.


That depends on how much I was affected. ;)


Personally I prefer they work it off.

[Zerazax]

Maybe not execution, but they need to be taught a lesson that ****ing over millions of citizens is not a slap on the wrist

If people can get life sentences for ruining the lives of others, then how is ruining thousands of lives less serious?