BRAVO TWO ZERO - patrol members photos ?

[2SARPQ]

Does anyone have any pictures of the members of the patrol? I only found these of Chris Ryan....

http://www.uktv.co.uk/AcuCustom/UKTV/Icon/Item/chris_ryan190.jpg http://www.randomhouse.co.uk/features/sasfitness/0712684395.gif

[deutschersoldat]

what a poser

[easyand]

This is a photo of the McNab's patrol before the mission

http://easyand.altervista.org/Bravo.jpg

[Argyll]

what a poser

at least he still passed selection for the SAS............could you?

Why does one want pictures of B20?go and read the books associated with it,the pictures are there

[Graeme]

what a poser

at least he still passed selection for the SAS............could you?



Answer: Not a f*cking chance.

Having done some CQB/Patrolling/fire and movement training with ex-sas soldiers(John Mac and John Edwards, who now work for Stirling Services in wales, for any one who cares), I can tell you they are hard core guys. They are no longer in the SAS, or the armed forces at all, but still remain fighting fit...Mac must be pushing 50 by now.

[Argyll]

I'm working with a few ex Regiment guys who are cracking on a bit,and I hear ya Graeme,fit as fok,and nutters!

[snake]

Hey Argyll I totally agree

Not to many men in the world can do what Chris Ryan had to do.
He did not get caught unlike his counterparts he improvised and adapted to his situation

Quite the man in my book

My 2 cents
snake

[2SARPQ]

what a poser
Why does one want pictures of B20?go and read the books associated with it,the pictures are there
I've read all the books on it already..... ;)

[Colt45]

what a poser

after you walk over 150+ kms in a few days with all of your team dead/ missing with a kidney/ bladder infection. you will attain that right jackass.

[2SARPQ]

what a poser

after you walk over 150+ kms in a few days with all of your team dead/ missing with a kidney/ bladder infection. you will attain that right jackass.
It was almost double that distance, about 290 km.... ;)

[ZeroPositive]

Deep respect for the SAS...

[b.scheller]

an old teacher in my highschool was a sas man...he only answered questions about his training and that seemed hardcore

[Colt45]

what a poser

after you walk over 150+ kms in a few days with all of your team dead/ missing with a kidney/ bladder infection. you will attain that right jackass.
It was almost double that distance, about 290 km.... ;)

thnx for correction, i havent read the story in about 4 years =/.

[Graeme]

I'm working with a few ex Regiment guys who are cracking on a bit,and I hear ya Graeme,fit as fok,and nutters!

Indeed, complete and utter hard b*astards. Not the sort of guys that will let you down when the **** hits the fan, you're a lucky man to be working with them.

[king_nothing100]

http://easyand.altervista.org/Bravo.jpg

Chris Ryan = Bottom left with 203, can't rememmber the others. If my scanner was working I would scan the pictures out of Soldier 5, although they would have blanked faces, and none really of the patrol mainly anyway, NZSAS training and other types of trainning etc.

And CR was helped out because he was the only one with an NV sight.

[2SARPQ]

Some more pictures here (http://home.planet.nl/~egmon007/BravoTwoZero.htm)..... :D

[king_nothing100]

Bit of a flawed story on that site.

[Yosy]

Hey 2SARQP I also read all the B20 books. I had to order them from the UK - guess I ain't the only one woot

I still have to get my hands on Soldier Five. Word around the campfire is that it's the most accurate book of the patrol[/b]

[2SARPQ]

Hey 2SARQP I also read all the B20 books. I had to order them from the UK - guess I ain't the only one woot

I still have to get my hands on Soldier Five. Word around the campfire is that it's the most accurate book of the patrol[/b]
I haven't bought it yet, but it's on my list.... ;)

I also buy all the books from Amazon UK.

[king_nothing100]

Yes I will recommend it, got some good things which aren't included in other books. I finally finished it, and I was lucky enough to get a signed copy.

[sas-magoo]

Andy McNab and that patrol where a disgrace....If you actually look into it you will find out....B20 is a farce.

[king_nothing100]

Care to elaborate on that? Plus don't see you having the right to call them a disgrace since they're the ones passing SAS selection and doing it unlike some people :roll:

[OldRecon]

Some more pictures here (http://home.planet.nl/~egmon007/BravoTwoZero.htm)..... :D

Try right klick one of the pictures on the site rofl rofl rofl.
Maybe time for the guy running that site to make an appointment with a psychiatrist.

[Yosy]

Yeah, we'll surely need professional help to deal with the PTSD that will happen after the RDF gets hold of him (if they haven 't done that already). I needed, but I'm fine now. ;)

[OldRecon]

Andy McNab and that patrol where a disgrace....If you actually look into it you will find out....B20 is a farce.

If so that wasn't only the fault of the patrol leader and members.
Judging from what have been publicised on the SAS effort during the "first" Gulf war, from the outset the whole SAS "task force" for that campaign seems to have been hampered by inadequate clothing.
Also B20 seems not to have been the only SAS patrol intending to operate on foot after heli-insert. The leader of another patrol apparently took a look around the horizon at heli-drop off point and decided on the spot that foot mobility & concealment wouldn't work and called his patrol off.
B20 in particular also seems to have suffered from administrative muddle over allocation of radio frequencies and/or also possibly encryption keyes (the encryption key thing is a wild guess on my part though).
As for Scud claims from SAS actions, they also appear to have been adjusted downwards during after action analysis.
Though being in the area and chasing the Scud units around + sabotage of wired electronic communications instalations, may in itself have been enough obstruction to reduce the missile launch frequency.

[Scrim]

Some more pictures here (http://home.planet.nl/~egmon007/BravoTwoZero.htm)..... :D

Try right klick one of the pictures on the site rofl rofl rofl.
Maybe time for the guy running that site to make an appointment with a psychiatrist.

rofl I couldnt stop right clicking, hold on someones at the door....

[kommando]

yeah alot of the the story was bs
although reading The Real Brave 20 by micheal asher he sold some bs aswell

but as much bs as may have been thrown around
they were in the SAS (a feat in itself)
in a combat zone
captured and or killed
or walked an incredible distance

so for you to sit there and call andy or any of them a disgrace you woeful mate go get a life

ffs you homo-queef

okay thats all bye

[kommando]

the real bravo two zero*

[sas-magoo]

Plus don't see you having the right to call them a disgrace since they're the ones passing SAS selection

So as soon as you pass SAS selection your an instant hero and you can't do anything wrong ? ... get real

Don't think that i don't respect and honour the 22-reg. but this particular mission was a fake ...

A documentary team went in search of the 'real' B20 story, researching back to where the mission began. I'm not going to quote exactly what the documentary discovered due to the fact that my memory will probably fail me. The face of the documantary (the guy whose filmed all the time) was a really big SAS enthusiast, slowly through the course of their project u could see (and i personally felt) my respect for Chris R and others involved ... this whole post is gonna seem kinda vauge, but bare with me.
Ya know the situaton where they loose on of the patrol (in think he went by the name 'Baz'...i can't remember) andy/chris (can't remember which) said that they tried to find him. This is a lie becuase the documentary team followed/re-enacted the route B20 took, and they asked the same people that where there about what happened, and when they reached the area that 'Baz' (not sure if it was him....correct em if i'm wrong) died....they actualy go to a small crater where he slowly died, so these iraqi's asid that they followed the tracks of the SAS operators who had been with Baz and said that those who were with him didn't even try to help...they didn't actually see it, they followed the boot prints in the sand. And that wasn't fake either because one of the iraqis still had Baz'z binoculars which he had when he died.....alot of other things also came to light which they lied about.
Things like how they proclaimed to have killed over 200 iraqis.....it turned out that none had been killed.



Also B20 seems not to have been the only SAS patrol intending to operate on foot after heli-insert

They were infact the only unit to do that. The erason it failed them is because they had no fast way of leaving an area if they were discovered, leaving them to walk in enemy territory. Its kind ironic that the worst patrol becomes a legend.



so for you to sit there and call andy or any of them a disgrace you woeful mate go get a life

ffs you homo-queef

So you think leaving a man to die without anyone around him is a noble thing ??
You ****, i think you need to buck your ideas up.


I am in noway dishonouring the memory of those who died, because they were not the ones who made the desisions, and they are not the ones who abandoned their team-mates.

And also the Sgt Major who de-briefed them said that there where in-consistancies with the reports and in-consistancies between the reports and the book.
And the book which is printed under a different name (shows that andy doesn't want to be blamed when everyone realises )


....Baz was also the only member not to recieve a medal for his efforts...which is another disgrace.


Try researching it, and you will be un-pleasently suprised by what you find.
Andy and Chris have also been banned from entering hereford.

[sas-magoo]

.....actually i think it was 'Vince' and not 'Baz'... i'm still not sure though

[Gringo]

Vince has just recently recieved a medal for Iraq.

The SAS Sergeant Major's name was Peter Ratcliffe, he also wrote a book called 'Eye Of The Storm', which includes what he thinks of Andy McNab, Chris Ryan, and Cameron Spence (Sabre Squadron).

Have you any of you read Soldier Five by Mike Coburn? When compared to The Real Bravo Two Zero, it actually makes more sense then Bravo Two Zero and The One That Got Away.

[Yosy]

^^^^what did Ratcliffe said about Cameron Spence? I read Saber Squadron (awsome book - lots of good pictures in there, all in color) and in that book, Ratcliffe ("Roger") is portrayed has a gung-ho guy that "didn't know what a lat and long was, let alone care".

[king_nothing100]

Plus don't see you having the right to call them a disgrace since they're the ones passing SAS selection

So as soon as you pass SAS selection your an instant hero and you can't do anything wrong ? ... get real


No did I mention anything about heroism. If you had quoted the whole sentence it would of made more sense, but I see them going into the Iraqi desert a far distance from friendly lines, and getting on with their job. I don't see you doing anything remotely simular, urgo your in no position to be criticising them.
Now, get off your f.ucking high horse.

[Roger Rabbit]

Some more pictures here (http://home.planet.nl/~egmon007/BravoTwoZero.htm)..... :D

Try right klick one of the pictures on the site rofl rofl rofl.
Maybe time for the guy running that site to make an appointment with a psychiatrist.

rofl I couldnt stop right clicking, hold on someones at the door....

Whats the helmet in your avatar? I'm sure i recognise it from something, WW1?

[Gringo]

^^^^what did Ratcliffe said about Cameron Spence? I read Saber Squadron (awsome book - lots of good pictures in there, all in color) and in that book, Ratcliffe ("Roger") is portrayed has a gung-ho guy that "didn't know what a lat and long was, let alone care".

He arrived in a chinook to take over from the officer in charge I think. He told the half squadron convoy to ditch the camo nets they were using to cover the vehicles, and use union jacks to signify that they are British, as the Coalition pretty much had air superiorority over iraq. This caused some outrage with the half-squadron as they didn't like that idea, and felt vulnerable.
He said that in Sabre Squadron and Victor Two how some of the members would have a little chat about what he was doing wrong. How they would have ensuing arguments with Ratcliffe and how he would fail to carry out some plan of theres. Even I found this a little hard to believe that the younger operatives are giving the advice to RSM.
He also said how the authors of Sabre Squadron and Victor Two claimed that they were the first allied soldier to fire a shot in anger. Both claim wildly different accounts of the ambush of the GAZ and Iraqi officers in it.

Ratcliffe says

I have to say, too, that both Serious and Yorky's accounts of our patrol become even more outrageous as their stories develop, but to go into every incorrect fact, every piece of make-believe or every exercise in wishful thinking would fill an entire chapter.