Brutal bashing at Melbourne train station caught on film

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25105398-421,00.html

Warning the video available is quite graphic.

[welshmann]

****ing disgusting,hope they catch the animals

hope the poor kid recovers

[Sand Man]

... hope they catch the animals

X2! ****ing cowards.

[Kragh]

Thats disgusting !
3 black cowards attacking an unaware guy.

'Funny' thing is that if two white guys beat up a black guyit , then it is called racism,but I declare this evil act an racist assault !

I hope these three cowards will suffer same fate as the poor victim.
An eye for an eye - and tooth for a tooth !

[Connaught Ranger]

Thats disgusting !
3 black cowards attacking an unaware guy.

'Funny' thing is that if two white guys beat up a black guyit , then it is called racism,but I declare this evil act an racist assault !

I hope these three cowards will suffer same fate as the poor victim.
An eye for an eye - and tooth for a tooth !

We now know which side of the fence you stand on.:roll:

[Eog]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25105398-421,00.html

Warning the video available is quite graphic.


poor sod. looks like it had his hand out almost begging the passers by for help...

Question is would you stop though?

I've never been in a situation like that before so I can't comment, but I'd hope I would.

Eog

[IDF_TANKER]

Thats disgusting !
3 black cowards attacking an unaware guy.

'Funny' thing is that if two white guys beat up a black guyit , then it is called racism,but I declare this evil act an racist assault !


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg211/froimv/InternetPosters/facepalmbq8dj7.jpg

[Warlord]

I hate it when I see two or more beating up on a lone person.

I wish the cops would get them and give them the same treatment.

What are the chances this becomes a racial thing?

[damaja]

Quite sickening, things like this always disturb me. I really hope they are caught, but even then, when will their punishments ever fit the crime?

[Kragh]

We now know which side of the fence you stand on.:roll:
Sorry to disappoint you - I am not a racist.
But we have seen far too often that political politeness prevails when minorities misbehave.
If the tape had shown 3 white cowards attacking a black man I would have been equally disgusted.
Point is that this particular case shows 3 black cowards attacking a lone man.
Disgusting behaviour - isn't it ?

By the way: My favorite blues artist happens to be John Lee Hooker, an awesome black guy

[Ghostryder]

Sorry to disappoint you - I am not a racist.
But we have seen far too often that political politeness prevails when minorities misbehave.
If the tape had shown 3 white cowards attacking a black man I would have been equally disgusted.
Point is that this particular case shows 3 black cowards attacking a lone man.
Disgusting behaviour - isn't it ?

By the way: My favorite blues artist happens to be John Lee Hooker, an awesome black guy

It's three guys beating the **** out of a guy.

They're bastards

now Un-F*ck yourself.

[commanding]

That was really a sick attack on the guy. Those three guys should be caught and justice dealt to them by the system.
One more reason not to try to "get out" of jury duty.

[Lau]

Sorry to disappoint you - I am not a racist.


And yet, you feel compelled to tell us all about the color of the assailants skin.. why is that? does it have any relevance at all? No, it does not, only if you have a dirty little racist hidden inside you.

Anyways, the video is appalling, a terrible act! *The two people walking by didn't seem to care all that much, at least I hope they called the police..

*edit

They didn't do jack ****.

[tango44]

....ing cowards, I hope that they catch them, and go to prision, does not matter if it's a white or a black person, hope that the victims recovers and identify the ...ing cowards that did this to him.

This is why we have to fight for our rights to keep and bear arms!

The other thing that calls my attention is how this two persons just pass by and do nothing to help the other guy, at least try to call the Police.

[Lau]

This is why we have to fight for our rights to keep and bear arms!


Yes, because in the US, people are never attacked. The right to bare arms is a magic right which magically prevents all acts of violence, and the assailants always get shot by the good guys.

All of the above is crap and a lie.

[Col.O'neill]

There are too many punks in this world.

[DS73]

What about this chines(?) couple who preferred to notice nothing and didn't bother to call police?

[tango44]

Yes, because in the US, people are never attacked. The right to bare arms is a magic right which magically prevents all acts of violence, and the assailants always get shot by the good guys.

All of the above is crap and a lie.

Crap and lies is what you write.
People in the US never attacked???
Arms, is a magic right that prevents violent acts???
Bad people get shot by the good guys???

This is the real crap and lies you better think before posting who's writing crap and lies?

I don't care where you live, but in any part of the word these ...ing people are cowards.

Now let's go back to the topic and take no offense.

[Kragh]

And yet, you feel compelled to tell us all about the color of the assailants skin.. why is that? does it have any relevance at all? No, it does not, only if you have a dirty little racist hidden inside you.


Of course it has relevance - if a black guy is beaten up by three dirty white scumsbags there would be a public uproar and people yelling racism.
But PC will unforyunay make sure this doesn't happen in this case.


I am sick and tired of all this mindless violence giong on in our 'modern' societies and I wish the politicians would do something to cure this !

I'll leave this discusson now
but I wish the poor victim a speedy and complete recovery and hope his attackers will be punished severly !

[Lau]

Crap and lies is what you write.
People in the US never attacked???
Arms, is a magic right that prevents violent acts???
Bad people get shot by the good guys???

This is the real crap and lies you better think before posting who's writing crap and lies?

I don't care where you live, but in any part of the word these ...ing people are cowards.

Now let's go back to the topic and take no offense.

You missed the sarcasm. What I wrote was complete crap, I wrote it as a response to your post, which was also complete crap.



This is why we have to fight for our rights to keep and bear arms!


Crap, since these incidents occur as much in nations with limited restrictions on gun ownership.

[Macs.]

Glad to see these three young men are appreciating the offer to live a better life in the western world instead of the ****hole they came from.

[Evolv5]

The 3 attackers are ****ing disgusting.

But the 2 passer's by ... sure, they weren't exactly big enough to fight the other 3 off. But they could've just stayed in the tunnel, pretending to make out or something, that maybe would've prevented the other 3 from continuing.

I don't know, but seeing them just walk away is weak.

There should be a law forcing witnesses to act.

[Macs.]

The 3 attackers are ****ing disgusting.

But the 2 passer's by ... sure, they weren't exactly big enough to fight the other 3 off. But they could've just stayed in the tunnel, pretending to make out or something, that maybe would've prevented the other 3 from continuing.

I don't know, but seeing them just walk away is weak.

Well, if you walk alone with your Girlfriend in a dark tunnel where 3, maybe drugged up, guys beat up a guy... No I wouldn't stay. Get out, call the police.

[Evolv5]

Well, if you walk alone with your Girlfriend in a dark tunnel where 3, maybe drugged up, guys beat up a guy... No I wouldn't stay. Get out, call the police.

I don't know. I'd think I'd stay by the opening of the tunnel, call the police. If I saw them moving towards me I'd get the hell out.

I think your presence my disturb the attackers. But I could be wrong.

[SBL]

Well, if you walk alone with your Girlfriend in a dark tunnel where 3, maybe drugged up, guys beat up a guy... No I wouldn't stay. Get out, call the police.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It would be pretty irresponsible to put your wife/special lady/f**kin' lady friend in such a potentially dangerous situation.

[Bia]

Thats disgusting !
3 black cowards attacking an unaware guy.

'Funny' thing is that if two white guys beat up a black guyit , then it is called racism,but I declare this evil act an racist assault !
Newsflash.... whites have been beating blacks for hundreds of years, prob thousands of years... usually in massively unequal numbers.

To suggest this is a "black thing"... well they paid attention well over the past centurys.




Bottom line is humans beat humans... in various mixtures of cultures there's no formula for violence.

[B_706K]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It would be pretty irresponsible to put your wife/special lady/f**kin' lady friend in such a potentially dangerous situation.
I think i'd have been tempted to send her back the way I came to phone the police, whilst I tried to do something, I'm not making out I take on three guys win then firemans carry the victim all the way to hospital. But theres no excuse for just pretending it isnt happening.

[SBL]

I think i'd have been tempted to send her back the way I came to phone the police, whilst I tried to do something, I'm not making out I take on three guys win then firemans carry the victim all the way to hospital. But theres no excuse for just pretending it isnt happening.
It is possible to phone the police whilst walking away briskly.

[Eye]

Crap, since these incidents occur as much in nations with limited restrictions on gun ownership.
Yes, it happens everywhere, but in countries where possessing gun is prohibitted those scum can be sure that they can attack any person in such circumstances without any problems or danger for themselves.

[Evolv5]

It is possible to phone the police whilst walking away briskly.

True. May be I'd do that, get the lady out of harms way. Then try gather a group of "willing young men" and go back and check out the situation.

Then again, in today's society I doubt I'd be able to get anyone to follow me back.

[B_706K]

It is possible to phone the police whilst walking away briskly.
ha, yes I suppose it is but I'd like to believe if it was me on the floor someone would try to help a little more, I'd certainly like to believe I would.

[SBL]

ha, yes I suppose it is but I'd like to believe if it was me on the floor someone would try to help a little more, I'd certainly like to believe I would.
Well, if I were alone, I also like to think that I'd intervene somehow. But I also think it pays to exercise some discretion if your girlfriend is nearby. That's all.

[B_706K]

Well, if I were alone, I also like to think that I'd intervene somehow. But I also think it pays to exercise some discretion if your girlfriend is nearby. That's all.
I see what you're saying :)

[commanding]

I thought the fellow and the lady walking down the narrow corridor, were putting themselves in an indefensible position by coming that close to the assailants. Even if the young man with the lady had been carrying a concealed handgun, if the three thugs had waited until he was within striking distance, they would have knocked him and the woman down, before he could have unholstered his firearm. I think he and the lady made a poor choice by continuing to advance toward the three guys if in fact he knew the guy on the ground had been hit by them. I could not tell from the video if they could see any actual kicks, before they walked down the corridor next to the guys. If they did not see any kicks..then maybe he made an okay decision, assuming the floored guy was drunk?
Hard to 2nd guess.

[Connaught Ranger]

Sorry to disappoint you - I am not a racist.
But we have seen far too often that political politeness prevails when minorities misbehave.
If the tape had shown 3 white cowards attacking a black man I would have been equally disgusted.
Point is that this particular case shows 3 black cowards attacking a lone man.
Disgusting behaviour - isn't it ?

By the way: My favorite blues artist happens to be John Lee Hooker, an awesome black guy


Your comments in this post have little bearing on the way your original comments were posted, you could not wait to play the colour card.

If you were truly sickened by the behavior of the perpetrators involved then colour would have little relevance in your original comments.

You try by the use of reverse psychology to justify your comments with regards the ethnicity of the assailants and fail miserably.

And we have equally seen the opposite where minorities have been attacked and the cowards who do the attacking walk away Scot free.

And WTF has your taste in music got to do with this?:roll:

[Geezah]

Yes, because in the US, people are never attacked. The right to bare arms is a magic right which magically prevents all acts of violence, and the assailants always get shot by the good guys.

All of the above is crap and a lie.

There are 2.5million defensive uses of firearms by the law abiding every year in the US, so if you can prove it is crap, then come on then?

[Geezah]

Due to how severe it was, I would prefer to see them meet someone like this before the Police catch up with them.
http://efemerides.bitacoras.com/images/charles-bronson11.jpg

They do not deserve to live in my mind, they beat this solitary young man, leaving him for dead and the fact they stuck around when witnesses passed them, shows even more how evil this trio are.

[Geezah]

Newsflash.... whites have been beating blacks for hundreds of years, prob thousands of years... usually in massively unequal numbers.

To suggest this is a "black thing"... well they paid attention well over the past centurys.

You need to watch Zulu Dawn...........

[Fargin]

Lau your misplaced sarcasm and quick use of the racism flag(in the light of recent postings, I guess you weren't completely unjustified :D) really distracts from whatever points you had. The incident and comments reflects well on the level of fear, aggression and segregation. I fear we'll see all three rise, simply because it provides the simplest answers.

Geezah, you need to use the edit button. :D

[commanding]

Well...as I saw in a joke email the other day...I am too old now to take an a$$ whippin' ...... but in my younger days, in my prime I repelled/fought two thugs at one time in a street brawl, and still came out on the losin end, though I got some licks end. This poor guy, had no idea they were about to suprise attack him (from appearances). And he was down almost immediately and they kept on kicking him in the head for no apparent reason, other than bravado to their buddies.
Really kind of makes one lose faith in their fellow human beings. Very sad.

[tea drinker]

What are the chances this becomes a racial thing?

Well, it may have started as a racial thing:


The man was beaten even after he handed over the backpack

We have no info either way as to why he was beaten - to rule out racism is premature IMHO.

I think these guys should be disabled, hobbled in some way to reduce their aggressive potential. I couldn't care less if they are Romulans or whatever, people need to stop paying in blood to protect the freedoms of criminals.

[Bia]

You need to watch Zulu Dawn...........I tried... was a snooze fest.



And WTF has your taste in music got to do with this?:roll:To further prove to everyone he has an open mind.

"oh yeah... some of them are OK"

:P

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Sorry to disappoint you - I am not a racist.


Really?

Is that why you sent me this a couple of years ago?


Prøv at stikke dit forpulede neger hoved i i røven på dig selv ! Der er sikker plads nok !!!!

Your kind has no place on this site.

[Eye]

Really?

Is that why you sent me this a couple of years ago?




If it was send as PM it shouldn't be posted here.

And I have one more question. Doesn't anybody watch those camera's screens on-line?

[Fargin]

I don't think privacy applies, when used to harass other members. Unfortunately the quote proves Kragh was misrepresenting the truth when he said:

I am not a racist.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

If it was send as PM it shouldn't be posted here.

I couldn't care less what you think.

[Albatross]

Newsflash.... whites have been beating blacks for hundreds of years, prob thousands of years... usually in massively unequal numbers.

To suggest this is a "black thing"... well they paid attention well over the past centurys.




Bottom line is humans beat humans... in various mixtures of cultures there's no formula for violence.

So its a white thing to beat black people? Or are you saying he deserved the beating because he was white and the historical tie ins should allow the beating to go on. If we are talking about beatings then it shouldnt involve skin color because historically speaking it is based religion, nationality, or tribe. you are a moron.

you upended your last statement with your previous one.

black, white, yellow, purple, this was a very unncessary beating.

[Stormz_STA]

Could someone translate what Kragh wrote in his pm.

[Henry's Fork]

So its a white thing to beat black people? Or are you saying he deserved the beating because he was white and the historical tie ins should allow the beating to go on. If we are talking about beatings then it shouldnt involve skin color because historically speaking it is based religion, nationality, or tribe. you are a moron.

you upended your last statement with your previous one.

black, white, yellow, purple, this was a very unncessary beating.

LOL, i think Bia might have thought she was still logged into her O*grish account with that one. :)

[4X4Driver]

Fcuking savages...:fork:

[damaja]

Regardless of races and nationalities, this is a disgusting crime and I am sure we all wish for the speedy capture and prosecution of these purpetrators.

Don't start speculating what would happen if it was a black victim and white attackers or whatver. This is not the case in the video and we should focus on that. It was a thing about power, bravado and domination of a victim. They did it because they thought it made them feel big and brave. They'll talk about this incident and brag amongst themselves about what they did. Human beings showing themselves at their most low and worthless. They didn't do it entirely because of race or colour (they are the minority in a country full of whites, don't see them attacking EVERYONE).

[Lau]

There are 2.5million defensive uses of firearms by the law abiding every year in the US, so if you can prove it is crap, then come on then?

My point is, gun ownership does not prevent these types of incidents.



Prøv at stikke dit forpulede neger hoved i i røven på dig selv ! Der er sikker plads nok !!!!
^^ Damn, did he really write that? What a retard... :cantbeli:


Could someone translate what Kragh wrote in his pm.

Goes something like this
"put your ****ing ****** head up your ass, there's room for it."

[damaja]

Madcon are the only blacks in Norway.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

^^ Damn, did he really write that? What a retard... :cantbeli:

He also wrote,


Fra bodega slagsmål ?

I got the gist of the first one though...

[Henry's Fork]

My point is, gun ownership does not prevent these types of incidents.

Its a roll of the dice. It could help you, or not, like any tool in the time of need. I would rather be with, than without.

In todays PC society, that kid would have been dragged over the coals if he would have used anything in self defense.

[Geezah]

There are 2.5million defensive uses of firearms by the law abiding every year in the US, so if you can prove it is crap, then come on then?

My point is, gun ownership does not prevent these types of incidents.


Please prove your point then?

When Concealed Carry Laws are passed crime upon the individual goes down, shoot when CCW was passed in Ohio we saw a decrease.

It makes sense after all, homie the clown does not know if the 80yr old granny is armed or the 21yr old stud.

I know that if that young man had the option to defend himself against 3 attackers with a firearm, he would not have been on the ground having his head kicked in. Then again, if the option was there, there is a good chance those cowards would not have gone down that path.

[Red_Rage]

****ing disgusting.


What prevents those situations is not guns but simple steps we have to take during our daily routines. Observation, Observation and Observation!

Situational awareness - this is pretty much the most important thing but urban masses are so preoccupied with their ipods, cell phones and blackberrys that they don't know wtf is around them. Criminals go for easy targets, and someone who doesn;t see 5ft in front of them is easy. Simple observation is the best weapon a person can yield. Now 3 black guys in baggy clothes and body language like they displayed should ring anyone's alarm bell.


Learning how to **** people up - pretty self explanatory. But in economically wealthy places most people have no idea how to defend themselves. Coming to Canada was a shocker to me personally - most teens have never been in a real fight, while the norm was one every few months back in Russia (We love a good brawl as much as the Irish do). IMHO there is absolutely no excuse for a male to not know how to defend himself - our body is such a powerful tool. In a desperate situation like his, playing sheep is the worst thing one can do.

And,

(optional, but very nice to have)
Have dangerous-looking, Addidas track-suit wearing, Russian-speaking friends who are ready to pack into several black BMWs and come to your aid or to exact revenge on a 20 mins notice ;)

[LazerLordz]

Sometimes, you just need preventive detention for such animals. They are unable to socialise with decent human beings.

[LazerLordz]

While reading the posts I could only think, how privileged you are knowing that blacks are in the minority there. Here whites are in the minority and scenes like that against white people is so everyday that it does not even make news anymore. Take that scene and add a brutal gang rape on his girlfriend. Then add a gun and see how the helpless victim is shot in the head and the attackers running of with a cell phone and some cash. Welcome to South Africa. How stupid of Australia to allow Africans in their country, have they learned nothing from Zim or SA or any other place these monkeys are allowed their freedom?

That kind of talk ain't helping. Let's not fall back too much into the theory of primordialism.

[Hollis]

Ngati has already issued warning, keep your effin racism out of this thread.


THINK............ before you post

Yes racism is alive and well.......... But it has no place on this forum or in any place in the world. While we on this forum can not control the world, we will BAN any racist on this forum.

So look how your post will be read before posting.

[Lau]

Please prove your point then?



Do these incidents occur in the US? Yes they do. Do they happen as frequent? To my knowledge, yes. Point proven.

[Eye]

My point is, gun ownership does not prevent these types of incidents.



Maybe gun owbership doesn't eliminate such incidents completely, but decrease them for sure.
When gun is wide spread among citizens criminals can not feel safe any more during assaults.

[Macs.]

Maybe gun owbership doesn't eliminate such incidents completely, but decrease them for sure.
When gun is wide spread among citizens criminals can not feel safe any more during assaults.

Emm, hello ?

The USA has much more guns than Australia, yet Australia is much safer than the USA.

Many African nations have a ****load of guns, and yet they are kingdoms of crimes. :roll:

Maybe the topic isn't as easy as "moar guns moar safe" or "moar guns more death". MAYBE there is more to it.

[Eye]

Many African nations have a ****load of guns, and yet they are kingdoms of crimes. :roll:


Yes, people differ from each other. You can see it in olimpic games that some disciplines are more proper for black or for white etc.
But it is logical that if only criminals have access to gun they are more self-confident.
Gun as a single factor increase safety. Surely there are plenty of others factors.

[Curtis E. Bear]

Why does everything always have to turn into some gun ownership bull****?

[Bushranger]

That footage makes my bloodboil & should be shown to the idiots in Parliament that let this rubbish into our country. Ill take 1 guess & say they are Sudanese, why let them in they are not going to give anything to this country at all. You can say all you want about refugees etc but these people are rubbish have no respect for Australia what we give them & never will. They are causing problems all over the country.

I hope they get these scum bags & throw the book at them.

[damaja]

(optional, but very nice to have)
Have dangerous-looking, Addidas track-suit wearing, Russian-speaking friends who are ready to pack into several black BMWs and come to your aid or to exact revenge on a 20 mins notice ;)

Haha, yes. Always a nice little thing to have. Can't say I am as lucky to have that to call on though. Well, they don't speak Russian anyway.

A very similar situation as in the video almost happened to me about 5 years ago. I was still a teenager then and this was pre-Army, so I wasn't quite as confident and able to handle myself as I am now. But I was prepared!

I was in the centre of town having just been to the movies with a friend. It was still daylight and it was a saturday afternoon so fairly busy with shoppers. Walking up a side street to the train station and these 2 young boys came up to me (about 15 years old, baggy jeans and the like), I wasn't too worried as they were pretty feeble looking and even at my younger age I could have handled them. One stood in front of me, and started questioning me about how much money I had and could I give him some. I replied firmly that I didn't have any at all. Well, he started trying to feel my pockets and try to go in them. Now, this is unacceptable to me and definately an aggressive act. So I shoved him back and told him where to go (starts in F and ends in uck off).

Well, this is where I realized there was a small problem about this young boy and his other young friend. No, it wasn't just the 2 of them, but a good 6-8 of their friends had made their way around the corner and behind me! And a good few of them weren't as young as them and were probably of the same age and size as me. This is a problem now, I'm getting surrounded by a great number of people, whose intentions seemed pretty clear to me. I'm either getting robbed and/or beaten. I'm not going to let this happen, and as I mentioned earlier, I was prepared.

Now, I don't condone what I did in my younger days, it was illegal and things could have turned out bad. But I believe it was the only way out of that situation which was preferable to me. But I was carrying a police style, extendable baton. Handily up my sleeve ready for easy deployment. So I whipped that bad boy out and held it high and behind me ready to strike. Well, these boys weren't so keen to rifle through my pockets now, were they! The boy in my face must have jumped 8ft in the air backwards with a look of horror on his face. To cut things short, I was able to make my way out of the situation without hitting anyone and without getting robbed or beaten.

Sure, it could have turned out many ways. I could have been arrested for carrying an offensive weapon. I could have been rushed and the baton taken from me and beaten about the head with it. I could have cracked one of the thugs around the head and killed him and been up on charges. Whatever, but I believe the situation turned out in the best possible way in that scenario and if I hadn't had the baton, it would have been painful for me.

[Eztyga]

Why does everything always have to turn into some gun ownership bull****?

F-ck knows. Pull a concealed weapon in Oz and use it in self-defence you will spend a good stretch behind bars.

This type of thing happens here occasionally, and as deplorable as it is, I don't think there is any need to get all worked up about it.

Most visitors I speak to are impressed by how safe Sydney is, and I supposedly live in one of the more dangerous areas; near Kings Cross. I have lived in Melbourne and never encounted any problems. This poor bloke just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Would I intervene? Probably not, however I would contact rail security and/or the police ASAP.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Bastards. Throw the book at them. Series of similar crimes at train/bus stations in Germany... and surprise surprise usually immigrants committing them against Germans. But no, they aren't race crimes. :roll:

[Eztyga]

That footage makes my bloodboil & should be shown to the idiots in Parliament that let this rubbish into our country. Ill take 1 guess & say they are Sudanese, why let them in they are not going to give anything to this country at all. You can say all you want about refugees etc but these people are rubbish have no respect for Australia what we give them & never will. They are causing problems all over the country.

I hope they get these scum bags & throw the book at them.

Causing trouble from Tasmania to the N.T. You can blame the do-gooder bible bashers if they are Sudanese, they pushed to have them bought in.

[T3ngu]

Causing trouble from Tasmania to the N.T. You can blame the do-gooder bible bashers if they are Sudanese, they pushed to have them bought in.

I live in a town which has the highest population of Sudanese in Australia (well it used to be).

I have had a number of sudanese people work for me, and a group i used to they also attend. They were good Christian people and overall good people. On the other hand, some of the kids have suffered from their experiences overseas, which means they have behaved like they were still overseas.

Part of it is socialisation, the other part is that some are "gansta". I have numerous examples of anti social behaviour, which are not appropriate here, but needless to say not all are bad, but those that are "bad" need the full weight of the law dropped on them from a great height.

And now a update



Two arrested over kicking attack on youth in Sunshine


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Anthony Dowsley
February 27, 2009 10:01am

UPDATE 10.22am: TWO men who allegedly kicked a train passenger unconscious in a Sunshine underpass have been arrested.
The alleged attackers were arrested about 8am today after transit police executed a search warrant at a Braybrook address.

The ugly incident, caught on CCTV on Tuesday, February 24, sparked outrage as a defenceless man, aged 23, was kicked to the head at the Sunshine railway station underpass as he walked to his home.

After being bashed his backpack was taken from him.

Both men arrested are aged 21.

One is from Braybrook and one of no fixed place of abode.

Police are questioning the pair at the Victoria Police Centre.

They are expected to be taken to the Melbourne Magistrates Court later today.

Detectives investigating the vicious assault said they were appalled by the level of violence, which left the man with serious head injuries.

The victim initially tried to ignore the three attackers as they tried to engage him in conversation on the train and the platform, before surrounding him and knocking him to the ground.

“This is a pretty appalling attack on a vulnerable young man who was by himself at the Sunshine railway station,” Sen-Constable Sontag said.

Anyone with information should contact CrimeStoppers (http://www.vic.crimestoppers.com.au/unsolvedcrimes_details.aspx?CrimeId=1763)on 1800 333 000 http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25105313-661,00.html

[Supe]

****ing disgusting.


What prevents those situations is not guns but simple steps we have to take during our daily routines. Observation, Observation and Observation!

Situational awareness - this is pretty much the most important thing but urban masses are so preoccupied with their ipods, cell phones and blackberrys that they don't know wtf is around them. Criminals go for easy targets, and someone who doesn;t see 5ft in front of them is easy. Simple observation is the best weapon a person can yield. Now 3 black guys in baggy clothes and body language like they displayed should ring anyone's alarm bell.


Learning how to **** people up - pretty self explanatory. But in economically wealthy places most people have no idea how to defend themselves. Coming to Canada was a shocker to me personally - most teens have never been in a real fight, while the norm was one every few months back in Russia (We love a good brawl as much as the Irish do). IMHO there is absolutely no excuse for a male to not know how to defend himself - our body is such a powerful tool. In a desperate situation like his, playing sheep is the worst thing one can do.



Your observation rings true. But it is more than just dudes not knowing how to defend themselves , it's also the law. The law in my country has dis empowered the ordinary person from protecting themselves, others or their property. The law as fashioned by well meaning but misguided people, has created a situation where no-one wants to intervene for fear of being prosecuted, convicted and even jailed. An incident immediately springs to mind. A guy was sent to prison because he whacked the guy who had felt up his pregnant wife with a pool cue. So we have a situation, where a guy gropes a pregnant woman is seen as the victim. Modern middle class cultural attitudes also go to understanding how a guy can be raised without knowing how to throw a punch or mentally prepare him for the possibility of violence. A person who is not used to violence, is easy prey because they become mentally blocked when confronted with it. They don't know how to react to it. Also, a person who is of a middle class background, largely absent from violence in the home or with his peers, when confronted with ultra violence, is not prepared to take the step that might see him through to survival or winning - because the step may mean he actually has to cripple another human being. I'm scared of violence - scared what would happen to me and also scared at what I can do to another human. The potential for mega damage of a permanent, crippling/disfiguring nature is all to easy. Most guys do not want to take it that level. There's mental barriers, cultural barriers and the consequence that winning will mean you probably lose. (hello stretch in prison)

Most white folks (particularly middle class) do not have a group/family/ethnic affiliation in which they can easily call for back up as you do. Have you not noticed that most white middle class dudes are isolated ? They don't tend to roll in numbers - and if they do, it is usually when they meet at a pub/club. Of course I am generalising but from my observation I'm telling it as I see it.

[gazell]

Oh, man, you think that's cruel, you live in a rather peaceful country.


Here you go for no sec cameras, so they take their own and it's also rather funny for the camerawoman, ends in: you beg for your life, generally goes on like that style, recommend it to some idealistic people about petty roma crime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTs8TmrBbZo

[timetraveller]

Oh, man, you think that's cruel, you live in a rather peaceful country.


Here you go for no sec cameras, so they take their own and it's also rather funny for the camerawoman, ends in: you beg for your life, generally goes on like that style, recommend it to some idealistic people about petty roma crime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTs8TmrBbZo

I just don't know how that dude sat back and took that abuse and hummilation of them ,,

I for one wouldn't/and will never take any sort of crap from anyone Period

[gazell]

I just don't know how that dude sat back and took that abuse and hummilation of them ,,

I for one wouldn't/and will never take any sort of crap from anyone Period

It doesn't look to me, he could do much for himself, even if it was just one of them, a rather uneven struggle. By the way, this is school age children, according to unofficial information.

Anyhow, this is common place in certain areas, I was surprised at the original post of 'graphic' after seeing the video. This is no graphic nowadays in a lot of places, I'm afraid. It's good the Australian police is so much onto them, others do not even investigate such stuff, if it at all gets reported.

[Parx400]

I would have choice but to fight back with anything and everything I had. I had a massive head injury as a child and anything close to that kind of impact would pretty much kill me.