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Seraphim
06-23-2004, 05:00 PM
WARSAW, Poland - The ruins of gas chambers and crematoria at the former Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp complex will be preserved as a "warning" to future generations, a spokesman for the memorial site said Tuesday.



The gas chambers and crematoria at the Birkenau part of the camp have been in ruins since the Nazis blew them up in an attempt to hide evidence of their crimes as the Soviet army advanced toward the end of World War II.


The gas chambers at Birkenau were built in 1942 as part of the Nazi drive to exterminate Europe's Jews. The Birkenau and Auschwitz camps are a little more than a mile apart.


The conservation work, expected to start in the next few weeks, is being undertaken because "the ruins will disappear if nothing happens," said Jarek Mensfelt, spokesman for the Auschwitz memorial museum.


"This is an attempt to keep it as it is now — in ruins — but not to let the ruins go," Mensfelt said. "It was meant to be here forever as a warning."


More than a million people, most of them Jewish, perished in gas chambers or died of starvation and disease at the Auschwitz-Birkenau complex between 1940 and 1945.


In another development, archeologists searching for Jewish religious relics at the site of a synagogue near the former Auschwitz camp have found a treasure trove of menorahs and candelabra lost since the Nazis burned down the building in 1939, officials said Tuesday.


The objects, found Monday, included candelabra decorated with symbolic eagles of Poland and the former Austro-Hungarian Empire, which controlled the area until World War I, said Tomasz Kuncewicz, director of the Auschwitz Jewish Center.


Kuncewicz said he believed members of the Jewish community hid them in haste to keep them from falling into Nazi hands.


"These discoveries remind us that before the Nazis built Auschwitz, there was a thriving Jewish town of Oswiecim," said Julius Berman, chairman of the group that funded the excavation. Auschwtiz is the German name for the Polish town Oswiecim.

ctcboy
06-24-2004, 12:06 AM
It is good that such sites be preserved. Even in the relatively short time that has past many people have forgotten or have never relly learned about the horrors of the holocaust.

Brozozo
06-24-2004, 12:07 AM
Unfortunately not too much of Aushwitz left to restore...very interesting place to visit, however. I had the pleasure of doing so once before?

b.scheller
06-24-2004, 12:31 AM
the camp itself is surprisingly very small...to think that thousands of people worked and died there... :(

UoUo
06-24-2004, 12:38 AM
the camp itself is surprisingly very small...to think that thousands of people worked and died there... :(

Try millions...and not only jews....

And its not correct Birkenau is a big place...

Auschwitz is less but still....

Anyway..good job.

citizen-k
06-24-2004, 08:16 AM
I guess they need to renew the paint on the signs written in Polish which are saying "In case of a fire run in this direction ->"

(it's true - they actually posted such signs throughout the camp :cantbeli: )

mack pl
06-24-2004, 08:32 AM
:|

Herrmannek
06-24-2004, 08:53 AM
I guess they need to renew the paint on the signs written in Polish which are saying "In case of a fire run in this direction ->"

(it's true - they actually posted such signs throughout the camp :cantbeli: )

This is not stupid idea even it looks like. Every place available to public must meet security rules. Even it seems stupid in that case those signs serve their purpose. We don't want people sueing museum for big money because of inproper fire safties.

wiking
06-24-2004, 09:25 AM
The probably sickest part of Auschwitz is the gate with "Arbeit Macht Frei" on it. ('Work liberates' for you who don't read german)
You could allmost laugh if it hadn't been for all the people who died.

b.scheller
06-24-2004, 10:24 AM
well i meant, to the relative size of the amount of people that were in that camp, the camp is a small place. although your right brzezinka (birkenau) is much bigger then oswiecim (Auschwitz)

wiking
06-24-2004, 12:13 PM
I guess they need to renew the paint on the signs written in Polish which are saying "In case of a fire run in this direction ->"

(it's true - they actually posted such signs throughout the camp :cantbeli: )

This is not stupid idea even it looks like. Every place available to public must meet security rules. Even it seems stupid in that case those signs serve their purpose. We don't want people sueing museum for big money because of inproper fire safties.

if i'm not remembering wrong the germans put up those signs pointing towards the gas chambers (or was it the ovens, not sure).

citizen-k
06-24-2004, 05:26 PM
I guess they need to renew the paint on the signs written in Polish which are saying "In case of a fire run in this direction ->"

(it's true - they actually posted such signs throughout the camp :cantbeli: )

This is not stupid idea even it looks like. Every place available to public must meet security rules. Even it seems stupid in that case those signs serve their purpose. We don't want people sueing museum for big money because of inproper fire safties.

I know the signs were put there for a reason, but still... they could have used a different word other then "fire" ("trouble", "alert" etc...)

I only mentioned it as part of my healthy sense of humor - these kind of things kept me strong while standing in the place where my mothers family was murdered.

citizen-k
06-24-2004, 05:28 PM
I guess they need to renew the paint on the signs written in Polish which are saying "In case of a fire run in this direction ->"

(it's true - they actually posted such signs throughout the camp :cantbeli: )

This is not stupid idea even it looks like. Every place available to public must meet security rules. Even it seems stupid in that case those signs serve their purpose. We don't want people sueing museum for big money because of inproper fire safties.

if i'm not remembering wrong the germans put up those signs pointing towards the gas chambers (or was it the ovens, not sure).

No. these are modern safety signs needed because its a public place and most of barracks are made of wood.

wiking
06-24-2004, 06:23 PM
I guess they need to renew the paint on the signs written in Polish which are saying "In case of a fire run in this direction ->"

(it's true - they actually posted such signs throughout the camp :cantbeli: )

This is not stupid idea even it looks like. Every place available to public must meet security rules. Even it seems stupid in that case those signs serve their purpose. We don't want people sueing museum for big money because of inproper fire safties.

if i'm not remembering wrong the germans put up those signs pointing towards the gas chambers (or was it the ovens, not sure).

No. these are modern safety signs needed because its a public place and most of barracks are made of wood.

Oh, must have remebered wrong.

Moledet
06-24-2004, 06:51 PM
It's nice to hear that you start preservations works in that camp, next thing to do is to close it for bicycles and people with picnic bags (no offense).

Macs.
06-24-2004, 06:59 PM
It's nice to hear that you start preservations works in that camp, next thing to do is to close it for bicycles and people with picnic bags (no offense).

Yeah, its a shame.

Almost like the D-Day anniversary which was like a big entertainment park.

Fenna
06-24-2004, 07:32 PM
I find it quite interesting that people can do this to other people.

It was absolutely disgusting, makes me so glad of the D Day commerations.