Some interesting facts abt. European genes

[NBDX]

May be interesting to many users here and may be proper lecture for some shauvinistics here:



1. In genetics R1a1 (M17) is haplogruop in male chromosome Y. It is common among men in Central and North Europe and in few places in Asia, mainly in north India - only among highest castes (brahmins, kshatriyas). This haplogroup is most common in Slavic nations, average abt. 40%, and highest in Poland - 60%.

Conclusion: due to connection with India, Slavs are direct descendants of ancient Aryans, especially the Poles. German Nazis with their Aryan myth would be shocked!



2. Poles are most genetically homogenous nation in Europe.



3. So-called "microsatellitar clusters" in genes are proof that R1a1 holders, previous Aryans, now Slavs, are indigenous to Central and Eastern Europe, despite to their inhabitation of Central Asia in the deep past.



4. Greeks are more close genetically to Ethipians than to Turks, Italians and Slavs... Some try to explain this paradox, that ancient Greeks imported much Ethiopian slaves... What is true, nobody knows...



5. Results of analyses of European DNA are proof that migration of nations were much less than in official theory.



6.Hungarians, despite having non-indoeuropean, ugro-finnish language, have 41% R1a1, just like in Slavic nations. From the other side Hungarians have highest percentage from all nations of haplotypes typical to Jews.

Conclusion: this result is support of theory of Khazar origin of Askenazi Jews (abt. 95% Jews are Askenazi, rest are Sefardic Jews). Most probably Magyar tribe was genetically close to Khazars and after Magyars entry to Pannonia region they were mixed with original Slavic inhabitants.



7. Germans are not so Germanic as used to believe. Only 6% of German men have germanic genes after fathers, half of German women have germanic genes after mothers.



8. Many R1a1 holders are in North Sweden, Norway and Scotland. This fact support theory that term "Viking" is name for proffession, not nation and almost half of Vikings were of Slavic origin and Vikings were mixed as to the nationality (f.g. many artfacts from Norway are very Slavic)



Source: article in "Lidove Noviny" Chech Newspaper and many internet articles (if someone dont belive, start Gooogle, check out and next try comment)

[Stormz_STA]

And what is the point of this thread? You want to prove that the Germans/Poles/Greeks/whoever are superior/inferior to other Europeans?

[Rudolph]

^
I've never understood this method of "argumentation" to disprove claims by white supremacists. It does not in real world terms change anything at all... For instance, the fact that white South Africans are not that "pure" does not change our history, does it? If you get my drift, all I care about is "now", trying to argue genes for any kind of viewpoint is quite stupid. Look at Americans, they are made up of everything and they seem to do pretty well!

But, otherwise quite interesting.

[Marmot1]

Poland STRONG !!! p-)



^
I've never understood this method of "argumentation" to disprove claims by white supremacists. It does not in real world terms change anything at all... For instance, the fact that white South Africans are not that "pure" does not change our history, does it? If you get my drift, all I care about is "now", trying to argue genes for any kind of viewpoint is quite stupid. Look at Americans, they are made up of everything and they seem to do pretty well!

But, otherwise quite interesting.


Have you seen their women?

http://www.vat19.com/blog/fat-women-bbw-singles.jpg


indeed made up of everything...

[Rudolph]

Poland STRONG !!! p-)

Case in point, does their genetic make-up help their GDP, WW2 history, etc.? (no offense meant)

[Stormz_STA]

Look at Americans, they are made up of everything and they seem to do pretty well!

Not right now I guess ;)

[Rudolph]

Not right now I guess ;)

I can't tress it enough, culture, culture, culture, nationalism, nationalism, nationalism. p-)

[perdurabo]

Case in point, does their genetic make-up help their GDP, WW2 history, etc.? (no offense meant)
ow c'mon mate we have to have something, we lost WW2, been commie "paradise" for 50 years, our GDP still isn't in first league, military is shaping up but not as fast as it should have, atleast we have this gene thing. We are uberNazi-Aryans, purest of pure p-)

[Rudolph]

ow c'mon mate we have to have something, we lost WW2, been commie "paradise" for 50 years, our GDP still isn't in first league, military is shaping up but not as fast as it should have, atleast we have this gene thing. We are uberNazi-Aryans, purest of pure p-)

I'll give you guys the genes, on lease while the world still hates Iran. But I guess they are the true Aryans, those ancient cultures around Iraq created a lot of algebra, geometry, language, creation myth (hell, the Jews in Babylon copied these into what we know today!), etc.

[Jaeger07]

8. Many R1a1 holders are in North Sweden, Norway and Scotland. This fact support theory that term "Viking" is name for proffession, not nation and almost half of Vikings were of Slavic origin and Vikings were mixed as to the nationality (f.g. many artfacts from Norway are very Slavic)


"Viking" is a nation? o_O


I havent heard anyone say that. The word "Viking" most definately described something people do - to go viking = to go raiding and pillaging. This "article" is utter nonsense...

[commanding]

It appears to my reading that the scientists believe we all came out of Africa, and thus are all related. I sent off my Mom's DNA to be researched at the National Genographic Society's "Genographic Project", and additionally my brother in law's (to test my wifes now deceased father's dna)...anyway, here is a picture of the migration route of my own mothers DNA from the beginning of mankind, to about 10 thousand years ago at the latest:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/clovisfirst/military9/MOMSDNA.jpg

I am not trying to make any "statements" or arguing with anyone. Just thought this would perhaps be of interest, to the discussion participants.

[Rudolph]

It appears to my reading that the scientists believe we all came out of Africa, and thus are all related. I sent off my Mom's DNA to be researched at the National Genographic Society's "Genographic Project", and additionally my brother in law's (to test my wifes now deceased father's dna)...anyway, here is a picture of the migration route of my own mothers DNA from the beginning of mankind, to about 10 thousand years ago at the latest:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/clovisfirst/military9/MOMSDNA.jpg

I am not trying to make any "statements" or arguing with anyone. Just thought this would perhaps be of interest, to the discussion participants.

After that test showed Oprah Winfrey is a Zulu (South African tribe) I went "what?"

[muck]

Racism is for softies, culturalism makes the day!
And yes, I do strongly believe that some cultures are superior to others. Not genes or the colour of skin determine what you are, but your values do and the things you decide to do every day.

[el borracho]

I'm sensing an underlying "Slavs Strong!!1!!1" message in this thread.

[Rudolph]

Racism is for softies, culturalism makes the day!
And yes, I do strongly believe that some cultures are superior to others. Not genes or the colour of skin determine what you are, but your values do and the things you decide to do every day.

I'm a proud culturalist. Never can be a racist. In fact, I think most racists confuse that with culturism.

[muck]

And the majority of all people confuse culturalism with racism.
Then again, I couldn't care less about that.

As I've stated, I feel that a person's decisions and the values they appreciate make them good or bad men. That's arrogant? Maybe it is, but I can't wipe off the impression that for example the rule of law is superior to Sharia or blood feuds and more desirable, too.

[UK1RPO]

Good post!

[davey]

May be interesting to many users here and may be proper lecture for some shauvinistics here:



1. In genetics R1a1 (M17) is haplogruop in male chromosome Y. It is common among men in Central and North Europe and in few places in Asia, mainly in north India - only among highest castes (brahmins, kshatriyas). This haplogroup is most common in Slavic nations, average abt. 40%, and highest in Poland - 60%.

Conclusion: due to connection with India, Slavs are direct descendants of ancient Aryans, especially the Poles. German Nazis with their Aryan myth would be shocked!



2. Poles are most genetically homogenous nation in Europe.



3. So-called "microsatellitar clusters" in genes are proof that R1a1 holders, previous Aryans, now Slavs, are indigenous to Central and Eastern Europe, despite to their inhabitation of Central Asia in the deep past.



4. Greeks are more close genetically to Ethipians than to Turks, Italians and Slavs... Some try to explain this paradox, that ancient Greeks imported much Ethiopian slaves... What is true, nobody knows...



5. Results of analyses of European DNA are proof that migration of nations were much less than in official theory.



6.Hungarians, despite having non-indoeuropean, ugro-finnish language, have 41% R1a1, just like in Slavic nations. From the other side Hungarians have highest percentage from all nations of haplotypes typical to Jews.

Conclusion: this result is support of theory of Khazar origin of Askenazi Jews (abt. 95% Jews are Askenazi, rest are Sefardic Jews). Most probably Magyar tribe was genetically close to Khazars and after Magyars entry to Pannonia region they were mixed with original Slavic inhabitants.



7. Germans are not so Germanic as used to believe. Only 6% of German men have germanic genes after fathers, half of German women have germanic genes after mothers.



8. Many R1a1 holders are in North Sweden, Norway and Scotland. This fact support theory that term "Viking" is name for proffession, not nation and almost half of Vikings were of Slavic origin and Vikings were mixed as to the nationality (f.g. many artfacts from Norway are very Slavic)



Source: article in "Lidove Noviny" Chech Newspaper and many internet articles (if someone dont belive, start Gooogle, check out and next try comment)


The Greeks are carriers of Haplogroup E3B, but at a much smaller percentage than Ethiopians. Genetically, Greeks are more similar to the peoples around them than different. E3B is the so called "Berber" haplogroup and is common around the Mediterranean. Some East African populations are also carriers. Carriers of E3B tend to be good medium to long distance athletes.

Slavs are highest in Haplogroup R1a1 (the so-called "Aryan" haplogroup), with the Poles the highest of the Slavs. But some Altaic groups are also high, and it is common in India too....many facts and arguments around R1a1 are highly politicized. Eg the Aryan Invasion Theory of India remains controversial to this day, and to be honest, haplogroup distributions won't prove or disprove anything.

AFAIK Armenians, Georgians, Turks and some Jewish groups are quite similar i.t.o. haplogroup composition - these groups are quite mixed in fact. I'm not sure about the Ashkenaz. Their origin is a huge source of controversy and politically loaded argumentation. Khazars and all that, but most Jewish scholars don't accept a high input of Khazar genes into the Ashkenaz gene pool. Fact is, the groups mentioned are too mixed to draw any conclusions with regard to origin.

The Hungarian / Magyar group is a prime example of how language was spead according to the Elite Dominance Model. Despite the arrival of a small elite group of Magyar invaders who brought the Magyar language with them, todays Hungarians are very similar to other Central European peoples surrounding them.

See World Haplogroup Chart at:

http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf (http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/%7Emcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf)

People tend to be genetically similar to their neighbours, which is not really surprising. Recent migrations to the New World excluded of course.

[KVLG]

The Greeks are carriers of Haplogroup E3B, but at a much smaller percentage than Ethiopians. Genetically, Greeks are more similar to the peoples around them than different. E3B is the so called "Berber" haplogroup and is common around the Mediterranean. Some East African populations are also carriers. Carriers of E3B tend to be good medium to long distance athletes.

Slavs are highest in Haplogroup R1a1 (the so-called "Aryan" haplogroup), with the Poles the highest of the Slavs. But some Altaic groups are also high, and it is common in India too....many facts and arguments around R1a1 are highly politicized. Eg the Aryan Invasion Theory of India remains controversial to this day, and to be honest, haplogroup distributions won't prove or disprove anything.

AFAIK Armenians, Georgians, Turks and some Jewish groups are quite similar i.t.o. haplogroup composition - these groups are quite mixed in fact. I'm not sure about the Ashkenaz. Their origin is a huge source of controversy and politically loaded argumentation. Khazars and all that, but most Jewish scholars don't accept a high input of Khazar genes into the Ashkenaz gene pool. Fact is, the groups mentioned are too mixed to draw any conclusions with regard to origin.

The Hungarian / Magyar group is a prime example of how language was spead according to the Elite Dominance Model. Despite the arrival of a small elite group of Magyar invaders who brought the Magyar language with them, todays Hungarians are very similar to other Central European peoples surrounding them.


Well, most estimates place the Magyars who settled the carpathian Basin region at about 400,000 and maybe as many as 500,000, while the local inhabitants were about 200,000 at the time. Hardly a small group, at least IMO.

Also, as far as the Ashkenaz Jews goes, their ancestors first came to Northern France and Western Germany, namely the Rhineland. Later, when they were expelled, they migrated east to Eastern Europe. I doubt that there were any Khazar settement in France or Germany. E3B is, I think, a general Mediterranean hapgroup, and the reason why it's found in East Africa is probably because of Semitic and Hamitic (or Cushtic) settlers who came to the region.

[Havoc345]

^
I've never understood this method of "argumentation" to disprove claims by white supremacists. It does not in real world terms change anything at all... For instance, the fact that white South Africans are not that "pure" does not change our history, does it? If you get my drift, all I care about is "now", trying to argue genes for any kind of viewpoint is quite stupid. Look at Americans, they are made up of everything and they seem to do pretty well!

But, otherwise quite interesting.


Their is basically no non-White admixture in White Americans. Most Whites families today have immigrated in the last 100 years and never intermarried with Blacks/ Native Americans or any other race but other Whites.

[Nobi]

Looks to me they use igenea as source,
start test = 105 bucks :roll:


http://www.igenea.com/index.php?langchange=en

Statistics:

http://www.igenea.com/index.php?c=49&lp=15

http://www.igenea.com/index.php?c=49a
(https://www.igenea.com/index.php?c=49a)

[Ordie]

What about the Basque?

They have a unique language and blood type unlike any other people.

[MichaelF]

Unless a hell of a lot of people just dropped dead in the last year or so, Ashkenazim do not constitute 95% of the Jewish people....

[Mr.Flint]

Lol, another award worthy thread by NBDX...

[Bia]

Poland STRONG !!! p-)





Have you seen their women?

http://www.vat19.com/blog/fat-women-bbw-singles.jpg


indeed made up of everything...


Yes... here's my fat American ass in a Burger King keeping it real ya daft kneegrow.
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn437/biaaib/BKbia.jpg

[Gentius]

Looks to me they use igenea as source,
start test = 105 bucks


http://www.igenea.com/index.php?langchange=en

Statistics:

http://www.igenea.com/index.php?c=49&lp=15

http://www.igenea.com/index.php?c=49a
(https://www.igenea.com/index.php?c=49a)

Looks interesting, thanks.

[Dominique]

ow c'mon mate we have to have something, we lost WW2, been commie "paradise" for 50 years,

Well that's because the Allies, sort of left you out in the cold by leaving you to the Russians.

[Dominique]

Yes... here's my fat American ass in a Burger King keeping it real ya daft kneegrow.

Well there's a huge difference between a fat ass, and phat ass.

[commanding]

Looks interesting, thanks.

the National Genographic deal by the National Geographic Society DNA testing costs right about the same, about 105 US dollars. I guess they are still doing it. google "genographic" and see if interested.
we had two done, on two sides of my family (my wifes dad and my own mom) and both were completely different results. pretty cool stuff.

[ronnieraygun]

NBDX
North Sweden

LOL - so the Sami made it into the survey as well? LOL

It seems the point is that the Slavs are the real white guys? Bully for them. The Poles are the most homojeebus or whatever? I guess you are Polish. I'm a human being.

The Greek-Ethiopian things is interesting, though. I'll give you that.

[Decadence]

Yes... here's my fat American ass in a Burger King keeping it real ya daft kneegrow.


Yummy as...burgers. ;-)

[Gungnir]

Pretty cool... I always had an interest in genetic anthropology, genetics, and human migration.

I read an article which theorized that many 'native British' can trace some of their genetic makeup and ancestry to North African, "Scythian" or Arabic/Middle East origin due to the Roman Auxillaries stationed or that remained behind. (This came out before the movie King Arthur)
I tried googling key words: "DNA" "genes" "British" "roman" in various combination but only came up with infomation on DNA, Genghis Khan, etc.

In reading material on Afghanistan, it is beleived that some Pashtu have some Greek contribution to the gene pool from the Greco-Macedonian invasion/occuption/colonization and kingdoms. Nuristani People, who are not Pashtu, due to their remoteness and isolation in NE Afghanistan retained and preserved the Indo-European qualties from the initial migrations and/or probably received some Greco-Macedonian contribution which reinforced their phenotypic and genotypic makeup.


I want to try the National Genographic deal and learn about my ancestry and origin. It is (or would be) amazing or at least interesting to find out no matter the outcome... of course some people will be shocked or disappointed.

[gosciu555]

ow c'mon mate we have to have something, we lost WW2, been commie "paradise" for 50 years, our GDP still isn't in first league, military is shaping up but not as fast as it should have, atleast we have this gene thing. We are uberNazi-Aryans, purest of pure p-)

Hehe, good one. Its funny though my dad had a posting for a while in India and was surprised at how similar a lot of words were between the lang. they were speaking there (donno which one it was) and Polish. A lot of numbers were similar as well as other common words.

[NBDX]

What about the Basque?

They have a unique language and blood type unlike any other people.

There was a study about some similarities between Basques and Berbers and Guanches - now extinct native nation of Canary Islands. If I remember correctly, Basques have highest percentage of O Rh- blood group and lowest B group in the world. As to the DNA, there is a very rare haplogroup X, the only carriers of this group are:
- Basques,
- Berbers
- some American Indians (25% among Ojibway, Oneota and Nuu-Chah-Nulth tribes, 5% among Yakims, Siouxes and Navajo),
- some Altaic tribe on very isolated place in Gobi desert.
Thesis: Basques, Berbers and some American Indians are descendants of Atlantis.

Thera are some other interesting things, f.g.
- tombs and mummies of tall, white and blonde people found in chinese province Xinjiang dated aprox. 1.000 B.C.
- tombs, skeletons and artifacts of people of "celtic" origin found in New Zealand and dated before Maori inhabitation of New Zealand.

[davey]

Well, most estimates place the Magyars who settled the carpathian Basin region at about 400,000 and maybe as many as 500,000, while the local inhabitants were about 200,000 at the time. Hardly a small group, at least IMO.

Perhaps the local inhabitants were low in numbers compared to the invaders, but that must have changed over time due to assimilation, because the current Hungarian population is genetically very similar to surrounding populations. Their genetic profile is more Central European than Finno-Ugric. But they do show some Finno-Ugric ancestry, just like the Russians, who have also assimilated Finno-Ugrics.


Also, as far as the Ashkenaz Jews goes, their ancestors first came to Northern France and Western Germany, namely the Rhineland. Later, when they were expelled, they migrated east to Eastern Europe. I doubt that there were any Khazar settement in France or Germany.To my best knowledge this is true, but when you talk about Ashkenaz ancestors, who are they and where did they come from? Were they from the Middle East? Some Jewish scholars accept about 40% Khazar ancestry. Others, for political reasons, push for a much higher percentage. The issue is hugely politicized.


E3B is, I think, a general Mediterranean hapgroup, and the reason why it's found in East Africa is probably because of Semitic and Hamitic (or Cushtic) settlers who came to the region.E3B is of Mediterranean origin. It is often associated with the original Berbers of North Africa, before Arabization and sub-saharan African admixture.

[davey]

Hehe, good one. Its funny though my dad had a posting for a while in India and was surprised at how similar a lot of words were between the lang. they were speaking there (donno which one it was) and Polish. A lot of numbers were similar as well as other common words.

Of all Indo-European languages, the Baltic and Slavic languages are closest to Sanskrit. I think Lithuanian is the closest, but Slavic languages are close too.

[Sarig]

"Viking" is a nation? o_O


I havent heard anyone say that. The word "Viking" most definately described something people do - to go viking = to go raiding and pillaging. This "article" is utter nonsense...

I quite agree. It also seems they've forgot another thing about the nordic culture a thousand years ago: They had a ton of thralls and servants taken from, you guessed it, slavic countries.

[Eye]

Another interesting article connected with thread:

So you think you're English? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatresources/4201967/So-you-think-youre-English.html)

[Zandt]

Now what is interesting about European genes, is that 1 percent of Northen Europeans and the decendents therof are immune to Aids!

[Sarig]

Now what is interesting about European genes, is that 1 percent of Northen Europeans and the decendents therof are immune to Aids!

Oh yes! How was this again, 1% had both alleles, while around 15% had one, making them rather resistant to AIDS instead of immune.

Some speculation if it's just random luck, or if there's been an epidemic in these parts before.

Being 100% Norwegian, I've wondered if I'm one of the lucky 1%, but for obvious reasons, I haven't gone out to test it ;)

[Mr.Flint]

To my best knowledge this is true, but when you talk about Ashkenaz ancestors, who are they and where did they come from? Were they from the Middle East? Some Jewish scholars accept about 40% Khazar ancestry. Others, for political reasons, push for a much higher percentage. The issue is hugely politicized.


Genetic studies, proven the Khazar theory to be nothing but a myth.


Modern DNA studies on the Y chromosome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome) of Jews worldwide have largely disproven the Khazar origin theory for the vast majority of Jews, including the Ashkenazi.
A 1999 study by Hammer et al, published in the Proceedings of the United States National Academy of Sciences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAS) compared the Y chromosomes of Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and Ethiopian Jews with 16 non-Jewish groups from similar geographic locations. It found that "Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level... The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora."[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#cite_note-hammer-44) According to Nicholas Wade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Wade) "The results accord with Jewish history and tradition and refute theories like those holding that Jewish communities consist mostly of converts from other faiths, or that they are descended from the Khazars, a medieval Turkish tribe that adopted Judaism."[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#cite_note-New_York_Times2000-45)
A 2001 study by Nebel et al found Eu 19 chromosomes, which are very frequent in Eastern Europeans (54%-60%) at elevated frequency (12.7%) in Ashkenazi Jews. The authors hypothesized that these chromosomes could reflect low-level gene flow from surrounding Eastern European populations, or, alternatively, that both the Ashkenazi Jews with Eu 19, and to a greater extent Eastern European populations in general, might be descendants of Khazars.[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#cite_note-46)
A 2005 study by Nebel et al, based on Y chromosome polymorphic markers, showed that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than to their host populations in Europe. However, 11.5% of male Ashkenazim were found to belong to R-M17, the dominant Y chromosome haplogroup in Eastern Europeans, suggesting possible gene flow. The authors hypothesized that "R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazim may represent vestiges of the mysterious Khazars". They concluded "However, if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim.[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#cite_note-47)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#Alleged_Khazar_ancestry_of_Ashkenazim


The only people who still believe, and give validity to this retarded theory, are anti-semites, anti-zionists, and arabs.

[Eye]

The only people who still believe, and give validity to this retarded theory, are anti-semites, anti-zionists, and arabs.
It is so dangerous to conduct any survey today. p-)

[Mikhael]

Thesis: Basques, Berbers and some American Indians are descendants of Atlantis.


SAY WHAT ?? NBDX do you take your medication ??

About Vikings yes there were slavic vikings most from region now is Ukraine.

Check the similarities in pagan gods of slavs and scandinavians btw.

[little icebear]

About Vikings yes there were slavic vikings most from region now is Ukraine.

Check the similarities in pagan gods of slavs and scandinavians btw.

Wasn´t it the other way around? Tribes from Skandinavia that found their way into nowadays Russia and so on?

[Eye]

Wasn´t it the other way around? Tribes from Skandinavia that found their way into nowadays Russia and so on?
You are right little iceberg.
They were called Varagians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians

[Mr.Flint]

You are right little iceberg.
They were called Varagians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians
Dont let the Slav's Uber Alles folks, hear ya p-)

[Mikhael]

Dont let the Slav's Uber Alles folks, hear ya p-)

long live evil nazi slavic empire!!

[NBDX]

long live evil nazi slavic empire!!

According to some weird beliefs of some people, actually something such already exist and it is called Germano-Slavic Antarctic IV Reich (try Google "Antarctic Reich"). This IV Reich is hidden in bases under ice of Antrctide, have mixed German-Slavic population of 2 milions and secret technology with flying saucers etc. So, Jews, watch out! :)

[Eye]

I can't see any sense in few last posts.:bash:

[JCR]

All bow to our polish overlords!
I've always known the whole "plumber" thing was just deception.

rofl

[Mikhael]

NBDX first berbers and basque people are atlantians now this you amaze me even more rofl p-)

[Lazarou]

I can't see any sense in few last posts.:bash:
I can't see any sense in this whole thread.

[Nobi]

Can someone send saliva sample from our leaders kaczynski twins to iGenea.com, i'd like to see what kind of mutants they really are. :p

[Eye]

Can someone send saliva sample from kaczynski twins to iGenea.com, i'd like to see what kind mutants they really are. :p
Give them a long kiss and send what you manage to suck up.

[Nobi]

NBDX

LOL - so the Sami made it into the survey as well? LOL

It seems the point is that the Slavs are the real white guys? Bully for them. The Poles are the most homojeebus or whatever? I guess you are Polish. I'm a human being.

The Greek-Ethiopian things is interesting, though. I'll give you that.

What means "homojeebus"? I have no inkling what this means. It sounds ill.

[Nobi]

Dont let the Slav's Uber Alles folks, hear ya p-)

Would be nice if jews go back to israel where they come from, since over ten generation they are sitting here in our countrys now. We helped them but now it is time to go back.

[Havoc345]

Would be nice if jews go back to israel where they come from, since over ten generation they are sitting here in our countrys now. We helped them but now it is time to go back.

Please shut up because you'll get no sympathy here with stupid opinions like that.