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Ordie
03-06-2009, 09:34 AM
This good news and long over due. It may give a boost to South Florida's economy in terms of the movement of goods and servcies.


U.S. shows signs of opening toward Havana
By Ginger Thompson

Thursday, March 5, 2009
WASHINGTON: The $410 billion spending bill that is working its way through Congress has become an unlikely platform for debate about U.S. policy toward Cuba.
The bill, which will come up for a vote in the Senate this week, includes provisions that would ease some restrictions on travel and trade enacted under the Bush administration. The changes would effectively allow Americans with relatives in Cuba to visit more frequently and would no longer require cash in advance when agricultural goods are shipped to Cuba.
Supporters hailed the measure as a small but significant first step in changing the relationship between Washington and Havana.
Opponents, who threatened to hold up several presidential nominations unless the provisions were removed, criticized the policy changes, saying they would extend a friendly hand to a government that rules Cuba with an iron fist.
"The Cuban regime's long record of expropriation, oppression, anti-Americanism and human rights abuses should be enough to give any reasonable person pause before stripping off the sanctions in place," said Senator Mel Martinez, Republican of Florida, in an angry speech on the Senate floor Tuesday. "I think we should support those who adhere to the rule of law, not those who flout it."
In an interview, Martinez said: "A massive appropriations bill is not the appropriate place to make foreign policy decisions. We shouldn't unilaterally, without asking for anything in return, make these kinds of concessions to an authoritarian government."
The House approved the bill last week.
In past years Republicans, with White House support, stripped similar provisions from spending packages. But President Barack Obama has made clear his intention to review policies that tried to bring down the only Communist regime in the hemisphere by cutting off money and communication. He has not spoken specifically about the provisions in the spending bill.
During the presidential campaign, aides to Obama called President George W. Bush's policy toward Cuba a "humanitarian and strategic blunder." Obama promised changes, including a lifting of all travel restrictions for those with relatives in Cuba and an end to limits on the money Americans could send to their families on the island.
There has been increasing support for such changes in the United States and across Latin America. A new generation of Cuban-American leaders has rejected hard-line positions in favor of greater engagement. Latin American leaders have expressed almost unanimous support for an end to the U.S. trade embargo, which dates from the early 1960s.
And in recent weeks, the ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Richard Lugar of Indiana, issued a report calling for a re-evaluation of American policy toward Cuba, saying it had failed to achieve the goals of fostering democracy.
"The current U.S. policy has many passionate defenders, and their criticism of the Castro regime is justified," the report said. "Nevertheless, we must recognize the ineffectiveness of our current policy and deal with the Cuban regime in a way that enhances U.S. interests."


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WarDancer
03-06-2009, 02:48 PM
I think its time for full diplomatic relations for Cuber. 50 years of embargoes have done absolutely nothing. By opening up relations the US can better infiltrate the Cuban government to bring it down. Better to work from the inside.

Hollis
03-06-2009, 03:57 PM
I think its time for full diplomatic relations for Cuber. 50 years of embargoes have done absolutely nothing. By opening up relations the US can better infiltrate the Cuban government to bring it down. Better to work from the inside.


Not to mention the car collectors. Should have been done a long time ago.

2Sheds_Jackson
03-06-2009, 04:08 PM
My guess is that we'll show a willingness to soften our stance because Raul has said he'd remove some restrictions that Cubans had on their daily lives under Fidel, and he has removed ("retired") several of Fidel's allies from key government posts.

Lau
03-06-2009, 05:49 PM
The entire Cuba affair is a joke, a remnant of the cold war, an obvious failure. It never did anything good for anybody.

My 2 cents. :)

2Sheds_Jackson
03-06-2009, 10:46 PM
The fact that Fidel's replacement is taking a softer line is not happening by chance. It's happening because they want improved relations with the US - and they know they'll have to give a little to get a little. There are thousands of families, especially in FL, who are eager to have some of their private property and assets that Fidel appropriated returned.

timetraveller
03-06-2009, 10:55 PM
George raft [ scarface ] owned a Club in Havana which was one of the top spots in Town during it's heyday ...

Hippie Homer
03-06-2009, 11:06 PM
Small things like Cuba add up. Its like a thorn stuck in your foot and taking it out relieves a lot of stress. I think its great to finally take out the communist government of Cuba which has done nothing good for the people.

ronnieraygun
03-06-2009, 11:12 PM
I think its time for full diplomatic relations for Cuber. 50 years of embargoes have done absolutely nothing. By opening up relations the US can better infiltrate the Cuban government to bring it down. Better to work from the inside.


The entire Cuba affair is a joke, a remnant of the cold war, an obvious failure. It never did anything good for anybody.

My 2 cents. :)


Small things like Cuba add up. Its like a thorn stuck in your foot and taking it out relieves a lot of stress. I think its great to finally take out the communist government of Cuba which has done nothing good for the people.


In the end, all of the political BS will end up as nonsense. No society remodeled in Fidel's image, no evil empire that gets punitively dealt with on a 50 year old grudge. In the end it boils down to relationships. A bunch of families torn apart by the BS of their own governments. They will be the ones to bring this back together from a diaspora without inequalities and fake ideology. It's much better to see this than another Bay of Pigs or a bunch of douchebags with no real dog in this fight beating their chests.