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Furir
03-08-2009, 08:27 AM
We have right to exploit disputed gas field: China

BEIJING (Kyodo) Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi on Saturday repeated Beijing's position that it is within its rights to continue exploration work at a disputed gas field in the East China Sea, (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20051002a1.html) an act Japan views as violating the spirit of a bilateral deal.
At a news conference on the sidelines of China's annual parliament session, Yang also stated China's opposition to a possible missile launch by North Korea, (http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20000628c1.html%22%20/o%20%22Mouse%20over%20%5E%20icon%20to%20search.) urging "relevant parties" to do more for stability on the Korean Peninsula.


The gas field in question — known as Tianwaitian in Chinese and Kashi in Japanese — is "located in China's exclusive economic zone, and has nothing to do with a common understanding" on the dispute reached with Japan last year, Yang said.
That agreement marked a step forward in solving differences over China's development of the gas fields, where Japan is laying claim to resources it fears China will siphon off.
According to the deal, Japan will invest in a gas field already operated by China.
The countries also agreed to jointly explore an area that is yet to be developed and to leave some other areas to further discussion.
Since the agreement was made, Japan has since learned that China is continuing to work the Tianwaitian gas field.
Tokyo views the field as one of the areas that was left for further consultations and has lodged a complaint.
While Yang said that the particular gas field has no links with the June agreement, he said the deal itself was "a reflection of an improvement in and development of bilateral relations."
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090308a3.html


It doesn't take a genius to see that China will use its naval forces and possibly aircraft carriers in the future to resolve conflicts like these with power projection!

Japan and other countries on the Pacific rim would do well to consider aircraft carriers on their own when there are conflicting issues that risk being solved with force

rolls
03-08-2009, 11:11 AM
How is a carrier going to affect an area that can be reached by non carrier based birds? Power projection over the next door neighbours fence maybe?

Anyway interesting they have something to squabble over none the less.

TORA
03-08-2009, 11:44 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i1GISAudwVdmP5VclLAb-mkEY5zg

seems They are busy lately...:roll:

Oh wait..:cantbeli: :|

China in dispute with Malaysia, Philippines over Island

BEIJING: China, which has a long standing dispute with Japan over an island, has now entered in a tiff with Malaysia and the Philippines over another island in the South China Sea.

The Chinese foreign ministry said on Friday that China has indisputable sovereignty over the Nansha Islands and adjacent waters.

It was reacting to a statement from Malaysian prime minister Abdullah Haji Ahmad Badawi on Thursday claiming Malaysia's sovereignty over these areas. Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang said Beijing was prepared to resolve the dispute through consultation.

The two houses of Philippines parliament adopted resolutions in late January and early February laying claim on the Nansha islands. China immediately reacted saying that the decisions taken in Manila were amounted to a violation of China's sovereignty. China regards all these islands as inalienable parts of Chinese territory.

"We hope the countries involved will abide by the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea, and refrain from taking actions that might complicate or expand disputes," Qin said on Friday. There was need for concerted efforts to safeguard the peace and stability of the South China Sea, he said.

The Nansha Islands is a group of more than 650 reefs, atolls, cays and islands in the South China Sea. Nansha has an uninhabited oceanic atoll called the Danwan Reef.

Beijing has been involved in a serious battle of words over Tokyo over the Diaoyu Islands. Japanese foreign minister Hirofumi Nakasone recently caused a lot of heart burning in China by saying that the Diaoyu islands are part of the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between Japan and United States. He meant that the existence of the treaty made it impossible for Tokyo to accept China's claims on the island.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman reacted saying that any treaty between Japan and the US should not hurt the interest of China.

"Any words and deeds that bring the Diaoyu Islands into the scope of the Japan-US Mutual Cooperation and Security Treaty are absolutely unacceptable for the Chinese people," an official spokesman said.

The Japanese foreign minister has also expressed concern over China's military build-up, which is evident in the recent hike in defense expenditure. The island dispute is also affected the talks between Beijing and Tokyo on joint exploration of oil and gas in East China Sea, sources said.

TheMiddlePath
03-08-2009, 01:08 PM
Facts.
The TianwaiTian Chinese gas drilling site is way OUTSIDE the limit of Japanese claim and in area that are NOT in dispute.

Compared with the Chungxiao gas output, the output from Tianwaitian is trivial.
Even if the Japanese side of the median line ends up doubling the reserves, the numbers still give you a feel for how marginal these fields are. I now have a little sympathy for conspiracy theorists who believe that the Chinese authorities have been pushing their exploitation just to reinforce their claims to the EEZ in the area.

Mastermind
03-08-2009, 11:43 PM
I think the last time China cussed out Japan it didn't go so well for them.

Kilgor
03-08-2009, 11:53 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NEnBLhxqVCk/SCmMNTQaReI/AAAAAAAAAqA/h0hYVs5Fy6A/s400/chinaclaim.gif

No wonder this annoys the neighbours.

Ordie
03-09-2009, 12:30 AM
It doesn't take a genius to see that China will use its naval forces and possibly aircraft carriers in the future to resolve conflicts like these with power projection!

Japan and other countries on the Pacific rim would do well to consider aircraft carriers on their own when there are conflicting issues that risk being solved with force



In this case, long term pragmatic diplomacy and international relations trumps reactionary military responses. China has much to lose in military action than gain.

LineDoggie
03-09-2009, 01:47 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NEnBLhxqVCk/SCmMNTQaReI/AAAAAAAAAqA/h0hYVs5Fy6A/s400/chinaclaim.gif

No wonder this annoys the neighbours.

Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere redux methinks............

Ordie
03-09-2009, 01:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilgor http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3975579#post3975579)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NEnBLhxqVCk/SCmMNTQaReI/AAAAAAAAAqA/h0hYVs5Fy6A/s400/chinaclaim.gif

No wonder this annoys the neighbours.

Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere redux methinks............


I guess size does matter.

chino65
03-09-2009, 06:44 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NEnBLhxqVCk/SCmMNTQaReI/AAAAAAAAAqA/h0hYVs5Fy6A/s400/chinaclaim.gif

No wonder this annoys the neighbours.

p-)

I like to present a differing viewpoint if I feel China is maligned.

This is not one such occasion, however...

Dr_ColoSSus
03-09-2009, 10:13 AM
Aagh the Spratly Islands, yoko to Asia's beatles.