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He219
06-24-2004, 03:00 PM
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BAQUBA (IRAQ), JUNE 24 (AFP) (http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=230547)

IRAQ-2NDLD ATTACK

Insurgents, believed linked with Al-Qaeda terror suspect Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi, unleashed attacks today on four cities across Iraq leaving more than 89 people dead in their boldest assault yet ahead of Iraqi self-rule.

US marines said a Cobra helicopter gunship was downed near Fallujah. The flashpoint western city itself came under fire from marine helicopters, according to an AFP correspondent embedded with US troops.

The US military also launched air strikes on the central city of Baquba, likewise the scene of heavy fighting, firing laser-guided missiles, a military official said. There was no immediate word of casualties in the raids.

Elsewhere, the military reported a rebel attack in Ramadi, 100 kilometres west of Baghdad.

In apparently coordinated attacks on Iraqi police and US troops, rebels affiliated with Zarqawi killed 15 Iraqis and a US soldier in Baquba as they laid waste to the city, with corpses of policemen left lying in the street.

Four car bombs exploded near police stations in the northern city of Mosul, leaving at least seven dead and 20 wounded.

Zarqawi's group, Tawhid wa al-Jihad, launched a pre-dawn assault on a US military patrol and a police station in Baquba, according to the 1st Infantry Division and an AFP correspondent.

The western sector of the city was deserted except for insurgents posted on street corners and inside buildings.

The fighting broke out after the dawn Muslim prayers when men, wearing headscarves and armed with assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenade launchers, assaulted the police station.

Two dead policemen lay in the street as fighters gripped Kalashnikovs behind the windows of buildings. A black flag fluttered behind them, marked "Allah Akbar" (God is great).

"At approximately 5:30 am (0700 IST) anti-Iraqi forces attacked a 1st Infantry Division patrol with small arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades in the vicinity of the Mufrek Traffic Circle in Baquba, killing one 1st Infantry Division Soldier and wounding three," Major Neal O'Brien told AFP.

"There are additional reports of anti-Iraqi forces firing mortars into the civilian populated areas of Baquba."

O'Brien said the city had been sealed off.

Fifteen Iraqis were killed, including 11 policemen, and 22 civilians wounded, medical sources said.

"We have received 15 dead bodies, of which 11 were policemen and the other four civilians," said Hussein Ali, an official in charge of administration at the general hospital in Baquba, 60 kilometres northeast of Baghdad.

"In addition, we have 22 people with bullet wounds and injuries from bomb fragments," he said.

Trident-za
06-24-2004, 05:26 PM
Shiiite

Not good.

mattnwnc03
06-24-2004, 06:10 PM
what i dont understand is these people were so scared to raise a finger to saddam ,and they attack us like japenese soldier on a banzai charge.i dont get it

American Patriot
06-24-2004, 06:13 PM
A little insanity goes a long way.

seruriermarshal
06-24-2004, 07:04 PM
Answer is Falluja , We have not seized it in April, is an extremely bad example.

:fork:

Secret Squirrel
06-24-2004, 07:07 PM
what i dont understand is these people were so scared to raise a finger to saddam ,and they attack us like japenese soldier on a banzai charge.i dont get it

Because some of them are from Saddam's regime and a lot of others groups werent in Iraq before the Invasion.

n4292936
06-24-2004, 07:28 PM
"At approximately 5:30 am (0700 IST) anti-Iraqi forces attacked a 1st Infantry Division patrol with small arms fire
This is a fine example of why Fox News is ****e. the description of these people as anti-Iraqi forces is just moronic, They are seeking to destabalise the peace process becasue it is affilitated with and (in their eyes) therefore under-the-thumb of the US. They are anti-US forces - Fox just cant tolerate the idea that increasingly fewer Iraqis see Americans as liberators.
It may be a ****ty situation on the ground but theres no need to colour the truth behind retarded invectives that just dont apply.

Aussie E
06-24-2004, 07:30 PM
from www.theaustralian.news.com.au

Al-Qa'ida rains terror across five Iraqi cities
From AFP
June 25, 2004
INSURGENTS linked to senior al-Qa'ida operative Abu Musab al-Zarqawi launched devastating attacks in five cities across Iraq yesterday just days before the handover to Iraqi self-rule next week.

At least 74 people were killed, including three US soldiers and many Iraqi police and security personnel. The Iraqi Health Ministry said last night 268 people were wounded in the attacks.

Zarqawi's group, Tawhid wa al-Jihad, launched a pre-dawn assault on a US military patrol, police stations, Iraqi security offices and government buildings in the northern city of Mosul and central cities of Baquba and Ramadi. US troops and insurgents engaged in fierce fighting in Baquba and Fallujah.

Five separate car bombs in Mosul killed at least 44 people and injured more than 215.

In Ramadi, a police officer killed a would-be suicide bomber as he tried to place a suitcase containing a bomb in front of a police station. But other attacks in the city succeeded, including one multiple rocket-propelled grenade assault at the central police station which killed seven police officers and a member of the Iraqi civil defence force, Iraq's new army.

US forces reportedly also engaged in heavy fighting in the rebel bastion of Fallujah, west of the capital, where an American Cobra helicopter was shot down. Its crew was rescued by marines as other military aircraft launched precision strikes on presumed military targets in the city.

Thousands of the city's residents were reported to be fleeing the town, which in April saw extended bloody clashes and the loss of hundreds of lives. US forces have launched two attacks in recent days on targets in Fallujah thought to be connected to Zarqawi's followers, killing at least 20 people. At least nine people died and 37 were wounded in yesterday's fighting in Ramadi and Fallujah, which are both in al-Anbar province. In Baghdad, a man dressed in a police uniform blew himself up outside a National Guard post, killing four guards and wounding three.

"We have said for a long period of time that we speculate there is a loose co-ordination going on here. We suspect that these were co-ordinated attacks, simultaneous attacks, looking at the timeline," a US military official said.

Iraqi and US officials have long warned that a surge in violence could be expected as the coalition prepares to transfer power to an interim Iraqi government on June 30.

The fighting in Baquba, which left 13 dead and 15 injured, broke out after early morning prayers when men shrouded in head scarves attacked the police station with assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenade launchers.

A statement from Zarqawi's group distributed around the city promised an increase in such activities.

"The days are coming for attacks against the forces of the occupation and those collaborators with them," the statement warned.

"Any resistance to these orders will be exposed to death and to the destruction of their homes."

Zarqawi reportedly threatened on Wednesday to kill interim prime minister Iyad Allawi, who he said had already unknowingly escaped several "sturdy traps".

The warning followed the group's claim of responsibility for the beheading of South Korean translator Kim Sun-il on Tuesday, with the execution captured on a grim video sent to Arab satellite news channel Al-Jazeera.

Two dead policemen lay in a Baquba street after yesterday's chaos, as fighters gripped Kalashnikovs inside the windows of buildings.

A black flag fluttered behind them, inscribed with the writing "God is Great". Many of the insurgents wore headbands identifying them as members of Zarqawi's group.

At the main hospital in Baquba, the corridors were spattered with blood. Civilian cars raced to the door bringing people with gunshot and shrapnel wounds.

"May God destroy America and all those who cooperate with it!" screamed one man in the corridor.

US aircraft dropped three 226kg bombs against an insurgent position near the Baquba soccer stadium, said Major Neal O'Brien, a US 1st Infantry Division spokesman.

Insurgents roamed the city with rocket launchers and automatic weapons, seized two police stations and destroyed the home of the police chief of surrounding Diyala province.

The region, 60km northeast of Baghdad, was rocked by intense fighting for three days last week.

Baquba is considered a den of insurgents, mixing criminals released under prison amnesty by Saddam Hussein in late 2002 and elements of the former regime.

About 90 killed in Iraq attacks
By Selim Saheb Ettaba Baquba
June 25, 2004
INSURGENTS unleashed a wave of apparently co-ordinated attacks across Iraq overnight, leaving at least 89 people dead just six days from the handover of power.

The fighting in Baquba, Fallujah, Mosul and Ramadi was the most serious challenge to the US-led coalition's efforts to restore stability since April, when Shiite Muslim radicals launched an uprising across central and southern Iraq.

The violence started in Baquba at dawn and spread like wildfire across the Sunni Muslim belt north and west from the capital, where the coalition has met armed resistance virtually since last year's invasion.

The health ministry put the death toll overnight at 85 dead and 320 wounded, excluding three dead US soldiers and a private security guard gunned down in Mosul.

The US-led coalition said at least 92 people had died, but, their numbers are often seen as less reliable than the Iraqi medical figures.

"We suspect that these were co-ordinated attacks, simultaneous attacks, looking at the timeline," a senior coalition officer said on condition of anonymity.

The violence in Baquba, Ramadi, Mosul and Baghdad was claimed by the militant group of alleged al-Qaeda operative Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi in a statement posted on an Islamist website.

The coalition officer expressed concern the unrest might signal "convergence" between his foreign Islamists and home-grown insurgents.

Iraq's interim prime minister Iyad Allawi vowed to crush the insurgency and blamed the radical group Ansar al-Islam for the mayhem in Mosul and loyalists of Saddam Hussein for the bloodshed elsewhere in the country.

But he warned of dark days ahead.

"We expect more escalation in the days ahead," Allawi said.

The heaviest toll from the morning violence was in the main northern city of Mosul where 44 people were killed and 216 wounded, according to the health ministry figures.

Insurgents launched five separate car bomb attacks against police stations in little more than an hour, before engaging in fierce street battles with US troops backed by helicopters. Four of the attacks were suicide bombings, a coalition official said.

"Helicopters fired on insurgents who were shooting rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) and Kalashnikovs," said police Captain Wadi Mohammed Abdullah.

The US military reported one soldier killed in the bombings and said a private security guard was also shot dead in the city.

Mosul was a major recruiting ground for Saddam's armed forces and has long been a hotbed of insurgency among the Sunni minority who dominated his regime.

The early morning assault in Baquba was launched by fighters of fugitive Jordanian Islamist Zarqawi, whose Tawhid wa al-Jihad (Unification and Holy War) group beheaded a South Korean hostage Tuesday.

Two US soldiers were killed along with as many as 20 Iraqis, more than half of them policemen, according to US military and hospital figures.

"The days are coming for attacks against the forces of occupation and those who collaborate with them," said a statement circulated by the assailants, who carried a Zarqawi banner.

"Anyone who resists these orders will be subject to death and destruction of their homes," the leaflets warned.

The fighting broke out after the first Muslim prayers of the day when men, wearing headscarves and armed with assault rifles and RPG launchers, assaulted the police station.

"A 1st Infantry Division patrol was attacked by anti-Iraqi forces killing two soldiers and wounding seven others in Baquba... at approximately 5.30 am (11.30am AEST)," said Major Neil O'Brian.

The police chief's home was also torched and the town hall hit by mortar fire in an assault that involved at least 30 rebels, Maj O'Brian said.

Medics at the town's hospital said 20 people were killed and 45 wounded in the fighting. The health ministry gave a death toll of 13.

A US military spokesman said warplanes dropped four 220kg bombs on insurgent positions in Baquba.

RomanS
06-24-2004, 07:31 PM
RIP to the innocent.

Welcome to your own Chechnya.

Aussie E
06-24-2004, 07:40 PM
"At approximately 5:30 am (0700 IST) anti-Iraqi forces attacked a 1st Infantry Division patrol with small arms fire
This is a fine example of why Fox News is ****e. the description of these people as anti-Iraqi forces is just moronic, They are seeking to destabalise the peace process becasue it is affilitated with and (in their eyes) therefore under-the-thumb of the US. They are anti-US forces - Fox just cant tolerate the idea that increasingly fewer Iraqis see Americans as liberators.
It may be a ****ty situation on the ground but theres no need to colour the truth behind retarded invectives that just dont apply.
I would have to disagree, they are anti-Iraqi, the damage to Iraqi infustructure (oil/police/political) is doing serious damge to Iraq's long term stability, if they want the US out, behave like civilized people, let the country stabalize and the foriegn troops will leave. Once the US is gone they can do what f*ck they want. They are not "fighting" for the greater good of the Iraqi people. If Australian was occupied by the Indonesians, I would be attacking them, not blowing up Australian energy/water facilities and police stations. The US will eventually leave and what the terrorist are doing now is not going to benefit the Iraqi people in the long run.

Vance
06-24-2004, 07:42 PM
RIP

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
06-24-2004, 07:48 PM
what i dont understand is these people were so scared to raise a finger to saddam ,and they attack us like japenese soldier on a banzai charge.i dont get it

Its called lack of respect, from the US soldiers to the people in the US back home. Read some of the comments made about Iraqi's in this forum and you'd understand.


I would have to disagree, they are anti-Iraqi, the damage to Iraqi infustructure (oil/police/political) is doing serious damge to Iraq's long term stability, if they want the US out, behave like civilized people, let the country stabalize and the foriegn troops will leave. Once the US is gone they can do what f*ck they want. They are not "fighting" for the greater good of the Iraqi people. If Australian was occupied by the Indonesians, I would be attacking them, not blowing up Australian energy/water facilities and police stations. The US will eventually leave and what the terrorist are doing now is not going to benefit the Iraqi people in the long run.

Well said.

mattnwnc03
06-25-2004, 12:13 AM
what i dont understand is these people were so scared to raise a finger to saddam ,and they attack us like japenese soldier on a banzai charge.i dont get it

Its called lack of respect, from the US soldiers to the people in the US back home. Read some of the comments made about Iraqi's in this forum and you'd understand.


I would have to disagree, they are anti-Iraqi, the damage to Iraqi infustructure (oil/police/political) is doing serious damge to Iraq's long term stability, if they want the US out, behave like civilized people, let the country stabalize and the foriegn troops will leave. Once the US is gone they can do what f*ck they want. They are not "fighting" for the greater good of the Iraqi people. If Australian was occupied by the Indonesians, I would be attacking them, not blowing up Australian energy/water facilities and police stations. The US will eventually leave and what the terrorist are doing now is not going to benefit the Iraqi people in the long run.

Well said. i go for that , after reading black hawk down (buzzing samali homes w/ black hawks)and the way we treated saudis when i was over there i believe that one.

OB Kenobi
06-25-2004, 01:32 AM
They are anti-US forces - Fox just cant tolerate the idea that increasingly fewer Iraqis see Americans as liberators.

I would have to disagree, they are anti-Iraqi, the damage to Iraqi infustructure (oil/police/political) is doing serious damge to Iraq's long term stability, if they want the US out, behave like civilized people, let the country stabalize and the foriegn troops will leave.

Acting civilized doesn't free your country. Do you realize that the US is already building six "permanent" bases in Iraq? In addition to that, the US intends to maintain control of Iraqi oil even after the handover:


According to documents posted on its own web site, the CPA’s little-known Program Review Board (PRB) has quietly committed billions of dollars in Iraq’s oil revenues to new contracts that critics say will enrich US and British corporations while limiting the amount of revenue Iraq’s new interim government will have at its disposal when it assumes authority from the CPA on June 30.

Of the PRB’s 12 voting members, all of whom were appointed by and report directly to CPA administrator Paul Bremer, only two represent Iraqi government ministries. The other voting members include one representative each from the Australian and British governments; a member of the Council for International Cooperation; a representative from USAID; and six representatives from various CPA divisions.

http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=592

I'm not talking about morality here, I am pointing out what all this looks like to the Iraqis. They feel that they are being robbed, they feel that their replacement government is an American puppet.

Add to this propaganda from the terrorists, religious rhetoric, and a thousand year history of invasions by Europeans and it adds up to another "Crusade" in the eyes of Iraqis and Muslims. The terrorists are having a field day with this, Bu$h is doing 100x more harm than good in the long term... not to mention the dozens of daily deaths over there. But hey, that's just collateral damage I suppose?



Once the US is gone they can do what f*ck they want.


When will that be?



They are not "fighting" for the greater good of the Iraqi people. If Australian was occupied by the Indonesians, I would be attacking them, not blowing up Australian energy/water facilities and police stations.


What if they put in power an Indonesian caliphate in Australia which controlled your beer. Would you pay THEM for YOUR beer? Or would you try to liberate your breweries?

We had a little problem similar to that in America with the British Empire once, I assume you know how that turned out.



The US will eventually leave and what the terrorist are doing now is not going to benefit the Iraqi people in the long run.

Hehe, no kidding! But the "terrorists" aren't the only ones rebelling over there. I could even say that the terrorists wouldn't even be there if Saddam was still in power. But be careful not to mix up terrorists with Iraqis and other interests. There's more going on here than just terrorists vs. America, there are the Kurds, Iraq's neighbor's, Israel, the oil (yes, the oil!), Bush's political career, Europe, religion, and yes, even the true meaning of Democracy and freedom. If you ignore those other issues, you will continue to play into the terrorists' hands.

jizzmonkey
06-25-2004, 01:36 AM
ahhhhhhhhhh

Mosul, thats where I'm going, great, I hear the night life is great!! puts Tijuana to shame!!

haha....oh wait, thats not funny.

sucks to be us.

ArmedPacifist
06-25-2004, 01:38 AM
It can only get worse before it gets better.

RavenW
06-25-2004, 01:46 AM
ahhhhhhhhhh

Mosul, thats where I'm going, great, I hear the night life is great!! puts Tijuana to shame!!

haha....oh wait, thats not funny.

sucks to be us.

good luck to you, man, and take care

we need you home, and we need you in good health :hug:

jizzmonkey
06-25-2004, 01:55 AM
we've lost 18 so far...

todays attack claimed another TFO soldier:
Sgt. Charles Kiser of the 330th MP Division. The news organization received confirmation from his relatives late today. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends.


Fort Lewis has been getting hammered latley. :(

J-10
06-25-2004, 01:55 AM
105 Killed in Attacks Across Iraq
Five cities are hit, leaving 321 injured. U.S. fears more violence, including an offensive in Baghdad, as insurgents step up activities before the hand-over.

By Edmund Sanders, Times Staff Writer

BAGHDAD — A wave of attacks that killed at least 105 people in five Iraqi cities Thursday indicate a new level of coordination by insurgents, days before the United States is scheduled to hand over control to an interim government.

The death toll included three U.S. soldiers, U.S. and Iraqi authorities said. The injured numbered 321, most of them in a series of explosions in the northern city of Mosul.

Within a chaotic six-hour period, insurgents unleashed a combination of tactics, including ambushes, armed assaults, car bombs and an explosives-laden suitcase. As the police chief in Baqubah mobilized his forces to repel the attacks, insurgents launched an assault on his home, destroying it.

The attacks were the most complex strikes in Iraq since October, when insurgents in Baghdad dispatched six suicide car bombers, hitting three police stations and the headquarters of the International Red Cross. More than 30 people were killed.

The latest attacks confirmed fears that insurgents would launch a final violent push to disrupt the return of sovereignty Wednesday.

Insurgents apparently are seeking to demonstrate that the interim government is weak and unable to consolidate power and they have increasingly targeted Iraqi police and others who protect or work for the U.S.-led occupation.

In the days leading up to the hand-over, U.S. military officials expect insurgents to launch a major offensive in Baghdad.

Bracing for more violence, Iraqi security forces prepared to close some borders. In the capital, Iraqi employees of the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority have been told to stay home next week.

"There may be more car bombings in the next few days," said Army Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq. "The terrorists are determined to disrupt the transfer of sovereignty. The leaders of Iraq, and the people of Iraq, are equally determined to accept sovereignty."

One Iraqi official said intelligence reports indicated that insurgents had prepared as many as 60 car bombs. U.S. forces recently intercepted three bomb-laden vehicles in Baghdad, a military official said.

Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi moved quickly to soothe an increasingly jittery population. "The situation is calmer now and everything is under control," he said.

In Washington, national security advisor Condoleezza Rice suggested the wave of blasts was intended to weaken the resolve of nations seeking to help in reconstruction efforts here.

"This is, I think, meant to be a challenge to the new Iraqi government," she said. "And we've said all along that we fully expected that there was likely to be an uptick in violence as they try to derail this transition."

In a statement published on a radical Islamic website, supporters of Abu Musab Zarqawi, a fugitive leader of an Al Qaeda-affiliated terrorist group, claimed responsibility for the attacks, which took place in Mosul, Baqubah, Fallouja, Ramadi and Baghdad.

Allawi and U.S. military officials questioned whether all the attacks were carried out by the same group, blaming Zarqawi for the Mosul attacks and loyalists of Saddam Hussein for the attacks in Baqubah.

A senior military official said the attacks did not demonstrate a high level of sophistication.

"This level of coordination could have been done with a couple of telephone calls: 'Let's all do it on Thursday,' " said the official, who warned that more attacks were likely.

"This may only be the first of many days," he said.

Iraqis are bracing for more violence. Many have fled the country, crossing into Syria and Jordan.

The bloodshed began with a series of attacks in Baqubah, about 40 miles north of the capital. A U.S. patrol was ambushed at 5:30 a.m. with guns, bombs and rocket-propelled grenades. Two soldiers with the Army's 1st Infantry Division were killed and seven were wounded, 1st Infantry spokesman Maj. Neal O'Brien said.

About the same time, masked insurgents attacked the Blue Dome government building, a police station and several Iraqi police patrols in Baqubah. As many as 20 Iraqi police were killed by insurgents who grabbed weapons from the station and attempted to take refuge in the city's soccer stadium, witnesses and U.S. officials said. Many attackers wore headbands with the words, "Battalions of Monotheism and Holy War."

Throughout the city, plumes of smoke rose and explosions were heard as insurgents battled U.S. troops. Two tanks sustained heavy damage, witnesses said.

Insurgents handed out leaflets warning citizens not to cooperate with Americans. "The flesh of those working with the Americans is more delicious than American flesh itself," one read.

Militants fired rocket-propelled grenades at the home of Baqubah Police Chief Wallid Azzawi, razing it.

U.S. forces deployed military jets and helicopters, dropping bombs on insurgent positions near the soccer stadium, officials and witnesses said.

More than half the fatalities occurred in Mosul, where four suicide car bombs at police facilities killed at least 62 — including one U.S. soldier — and injured 220, officials said.

"It was a horrible explosion," said Jassim Mohammed Hassan, 35, who was at the Wadi Hajar police station. "I saw a Volkswagen burning with a family inside. I tried to help them, but couldn't find a fireman to help me."

In Fallouja, U.S. Marines briefly re-entered the city and launched aerial assaults after they came under attack at a checkpoint. A Marine helicopter was forced down outside Fallouja, but the crew was not injured.

Under a May cease-fire, Marines had agreed to remain outside the city, which is under the charge of the specially created Fallouja Brigade.

A spokesman for the brigade told satellite television channel Al Arabiya that fighting started when unidentified gunmen from outside the city attacked U.S. forces, who returned fire and hit some homes in the city. Residents fired back, prompting a renewed battle.

Fallouja Mayor Mahmoud Ibrahim Juraisi said a delegation of local leaders quickly met with military leaders. "We agreed to stop the military operations and pull troops out of the city, and to not attack resistance members," he said.

In Ramadi, three police stations and a government office were attacked. At the Qatana station, 14 insurgents swarmed the building, set explosives and fled, killing eight and wounding 15, U.S. officials said.

In Baghdad, a man carrying a suitcase or briefcase filled with explosives approached an Iraqi checkpoint in the Rasheed district and detonated the device, killing at least four Iraqi police and wounding several U.S. soldiers.

On Wednesday and Thursday, four other police stations were attacked with mortars, hand grenades and AK-47 rifles. Iraqi police repelled the attacks, military officials said.
latimes (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-iraq25jun25,1,2674623.story?coll=la-home-headlines)
Rip :(

jizzmonkey
06-25-2004, 02:17 AM
I got an e-mai from a buddy in 3-21, he said Mosul was complete chaos.....
The Iraqi CDC were walking around dumbfounded with tears in thier eyes.

They had to grab them and make them start evac-ing the wounded

chengwudi
06-25-2004, 06:15 AM
what i dont understand is these people were so scared to raise a finger to saddam ,and they attack us like japenese soldier on a banzai charge.i dont get it
They are anti-saddam,they are also anti-American sa well,even more seriously.

Mongrel
06-25-2004, 07:25 AM
what i dont understand is these people were so scared to raise a finger to saddam ,and they attack us like japenese soldier on a banzai charge.i dont get it

Because Saddam was ruthless heartless SOB , and would hang them, and their families from the streetcorners. So in many ways they are taking advantage of whats left of Western civility...which must be wearing thin by now.

Maybe its time to send these bad asses in?

http://www.himal.hotlinks.co.uk/GurkhasVsTaliban.htm

My condolences to those lost.
M. :(

Flagg
06-25-2004, 08:01 AM
Argyll called this weeks ago....hope he and his CP team are safe....oh yeah...and his principles too...

Aussie E
06-25-2004, 11:47 AM
What if they put in power an Indonesian caliphate in Australia which controlled your beer. Would you pay THEM for YOUR beer? Or would you try to liberate your breweries?
If you mean blow them up by "liberate", no I wouldn't do that (maybe the Castlemain brewery, but not the Carlton United). BLOW UP BREWEIES=NO BEER! I wouldn't blow up the waste water treatment plants, the power plants, or the indigenous police stations. The Indonesian facilities would be legitimate targets.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
06-25-2004, 12:39 PM
Ok I'll put this plain and simple.

Iraqis / terrorists / insurgents or whatever the hell you want to call them know on June 30th the US army hands over alot of responsibility to the interm government. Majority of the attacks to come will be on ICDC forces, US troops, and infrastructer. Why infrastructure? Because the more they damage that, the longer the Americans have to stay to help "fix" it which makes it look like the "Americans are here to stay.."

This is just the start, give it a couple days things will get alot worse.