FDR repealed prohibition..will Obama legalized grass?

[commanding]

Since President Obama seems as though he likes to see himself as another JFK, or a FDR, and FDR repealed the 18th ammendment to the Constitution, which prohibited the sale, manufacture or transportation of booze....I wonder if Pres. Obama will do the same with marijuana. Or is he too busy with the economy, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc??

Do you think Pres. Obama really kind of envisions himself as the best of those earlier presidents? Seems to me he has made some comparisons to them ....but maybe it is my "republican goggles" that cloud my vision.

[LaoSexMachine]

It's your "Republican goggles". Move along.

[Geezah]

No, I would say he likes to think of himself as a new President Lincoln......

[commanding]

No, I would say he likes to think of himself as a new President Lincoln......

Darn, you are right...I think it is Lincoln he is nuts over...didn't he use he bible Lincoln used to swear in as his swear in bible??? Lincoln was a Republican.

[LineDoggie]

FDR repealed prohibition..will Obama legalized grass?

Seriously doubt it, what woulde be the advantage?

[Flecktarn92]

I doubt that he thinks of himself as a new FDR or JFK. hes probably more concerned with the country than himself

[domokun]

Lincoln was a Republican.

Both parties have changed a little since 1860's, comparing current current day parties to what they were back then is kinda pointless and holds quite little relevance.

I'll doubt that Obama will press on weed issue, it's kinda taboo in politics even when there is little real difference to alcohol... mainly hangover.

[budgie]

Not likely. I know Obama promised chang but that might be too hopeful. Condolences to Willie Nelson.

[commanding]

Not likely. I know Obama promised chang but that might be too hopeful. Condolences to Willie Nelson.
rofl& Paul McCartney

[philbob]

who doesnt he see himself as, ive heard Lincoln, FDR, JFK, and Reagan so far.. bets on who is next?


back on subject, he legalize it and then proceed to tax the ever loving **** out of it

[Britboy]

Believe they tried downgrading the classification of weed in the UK a few years back, only to put it back up again!

This wasn't legalisation of it by any stretch of the imagination, but if we are going to look at how countries could handle this, the UKs experience could be worth bearing in mind.

[commanding]

Both parties have changed a little since 1860's, comparing current current day parties to what they were back then is kinda pointless and holds quite little relevance.

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Ouch, you hit on one of my hot button issues...people dismiss history as pointless, and refuse to consider historical perspective.
I find the often used dismissal of historical perspective...to be unacceptable. Granted the republicans of those days have changed, but the fact remains, that Lincoln was Republican, and the south suffered under republican "reconstruction"...
Most southern states were republican in state government after the civil war because the federal govt. squished the democratic party. Most states did not have a democratic govt. at state level until 1900 or so.
So to me, there is a valid reason to always look at the historical context of any issue.
<steps off soap box> :oops: sorry, get a bit flustered when historical content is dismissed so quickly. no offense to you. :)

[Cipher]

FDR repealed prohibition..will Obama legalized grass?

Seriously doubt it, what woulde be the advantage?
It would become a major cash crop. p-)

[Gleipnir]

Dudes, if you wanna toke you should vote Ron Paul

[commanding]

Dudes, if you wanna toke you should vote Ron Paul
Shouldn't that be past tense? :)

[Gleipnir]

Hahaha, indeed.
Better luck to him next time.

[TheStorm]

No.

He'd have to make a huge investment of political capital that would garner very small returns. Stoners simply don't have enough political influence.

Plus, Obama has shown himself to be more afraid of tackling controversial issues then he claimed to be during the campaign. He hasn't even abolished "don't ask, don't tell" yet.

[ronnieraygun]

Neither he nor anyone else will ever decriminalize marijuana use because it would be handled at a state level, nothing more, nothing less.

Otherwise, yeah, it is frustrating how presidents are so preciously self-aware that their administrations try to take on the characteristics of a predecessor. Clinton thought of himself initially as Truman, etc. Neither FDR nor JFK became so beholden to their party so quickly as the current guy - I really cringed when he spoke a few weeks ago with Pelosi acting so ungraciously the whole time right behind him.

[LineDoggie]

It would become a major cash crop. p-)

And People would start dropping like fly's from Twinkie Poisoning when they get the munchies.

Seriously, Stoners think everyone will want this, but Stoners arent exactly reliable workers, Half Baked wasnt far off. Even for a Hysteric Minute consider this. IF it were made Legal, the home growers would be cut out of the picture by the corporate farms. There goes the dreams of being a Rockefeller of Red................ You'd still be the latest version of Bootleggers

The Kids I grew up with who were Stoners and still alive now, are total Burnouts who I wouldnt trust with a dead cat, much less anything else.

[Britboy]

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The Kids I grew up with who were Stoners and still alive now, are total Burnouts who I wouldnt trust with a dead cat, much less anything else.

QFT.

I'm only in my early 20s but still, the ones I went to school with who got into all that, aren't going a damn place in their lives. Sad really, when you consider what they once were like and what they wanted to do, and they were smart enough to do it! But it just takes all the drive out of people.

Dread to think what they'll be like in another decade or twos time :-(

[MichaelF]

FDR "repealed" F-all.

Congress repealed the 18th Amendment, by passing the 21st. Then the States had to ratify that. FDR may have urged it, and may have expended political capital to see it accomplished, but he didn't "repeal" anything.

Someone fell asleep in Civics class....

It's not even analogous, as cannabis is not banned by an Amendment. It's civil code. That could be changed in an afternoon. Specifically, the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970. It could be descheduled entirely (no prescriptions, no counter-control).

[Connaught Ranger]

:roll: Not another "Grass Thread" :roll:

[PeterG]

It would become a major cash crop. p-)

It already is the number one cash crop in California.. Just that there is no tax income from it, and no one is legally employed in it. All the 14 billion USD generated in this trade, goes directly to the criminals. Society is only left with the costs. With alcohol, some of the massive cost to society, is retrieved in taxes.

Sure, many stoners end up completely useless to anyone - i know people from when i was young. The heavy users didn't do very well later in life. But that damned well goes for the heavy drinkers too.... All in all, i see no reason why alcohol could possibly be lagal when pot isn't.

Tax pot. Regulate it as best we can - just like we do with alcohol. Try to reduce the negative consequences of people using and abusing it, as best we can - just like we do with alcohol. Some people go berserk after drinking alcohol - they beat their wives and even children, and go amok in nightclubs, they kill and maim thousands while DUI on the roads, they cost public healthcare billions and billions in alcohol related illnesses like chirrosis.. Yet most of us have a drink now and then without causing mayhem to those around us or the economy - so we shouldn't be denied our beer or whisky because some ( or many ) are unable to handle theirs.

The same goes for pot. Because some dumbasses will sit around and smoke pot all day and end up useless to anyone and society, shouldn't determine national policy on it. That doesn't matter - some people **** up no matter what.

I bet that pot is legal in the entire western world in 10-20 years. It makes sense. It is happening already.

[Invisigoth]

It already is the number one cash crop in California.. Just that there is no tax income from it, and no one is legally employed in it. All the 14 billion USD generated in this trade, goes directly to the criminals. Society is only left with the costs. With alcohol, some of the massive cost to society, is retrieved in taxes.

Sure, many stoners end up completely useless to anyone - i know people from when i was young. The heavy users didn't do very well later in life. But that damned well goes for the heavy drinkers too.... All in all, i see no reason why alcohol could possibly be lagal when pot isn't.

Tax pot. Regulate it as best we can - just like we do with alcohol. Try to reduce the negative consequences of people using and abusing it, as best we can - just like we do with alcohol. Some people go berserk after drinking alcohol - they beat their wives and even children, and go amok in nightclubs, they kill and maim thousands while DUI on the roads, they cost public healthcare billions and billions in alcohol related illnesses like chirrosis.. Yet most of us have a drink now and then without causing mayhem to those around us or the economy - so we shouldn't be denied our beer or whisky because some ( or many ) are unable to handle theirs.

The same goes for pot. Because some dumbasses will sit around and smoke pot all day and end up useless to anyone and society, shouldn't determine national policy on it. That doesn't matter - some people **** up no matter what.

I bet that pot is legal in the entire western world in 10-20 years. It makes sense. It is happening already.

QFT. Remember seeing an estimate that this would bring something like 100 billion on a national level a year.

[Hippie Homer]

Maybe he should try to secure US borders so Marijuana and Coke won't be sneaked into the US. It seems our government is too busy making up new and stupid laws in an attempt to avoid the real problems.

[ayanami_tard]

colombia gonna go wtf with this

[LineDoggie]

QFT. Remember seeing an estimate that this would bring something like 100 billion on a national level a year.
Would that be an estimate from "High Times" magazine? :) or Tommy Chong?