Obama to appear on 'Tonight Show'

[matthew.manhorn]

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Guests on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" usually appear to promote a movie, TV show, book or album, but President Obama will visit the NBC show Thursday to make the case for his financial rescue plans.

While presidential candidates -- as far back as Richard Nixon's performance on "Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In" in 1968 -- have used comedy shows for campaigning, Obama becomes the first sitting president to appear.
"We don't look at it as the process of demonstrating the president's sense of humor," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. "We look at it as a way of discussing the economic situation that we find ourselves in."
Obama will tape the show (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno) Thursday afternoon during a two-day swing through the Los Angeles area for town hall meetings focusing on the economy, Gibbs said.


There's some political risk for Obama, according to Washington Post media columnist Howard Kurtz, who also hosts CNN's "Reliable Sources."

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"He has to be very careful about his tone, because if he yuks it up too much and seems to be having too good a time, it will be quite a contrast there with the pain the people are feeling with the crumbling economy (http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/19/as-funny-as-the-times-allow/)," Kurtz said.

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/19/obama.leno/

Great, more gimmicks from Obama

[Hellfish]

He's such a monster.

[ronnieraygun]

His schtick is to seem relaxed and optimistic. Witness the last speech when Pelosi stood up behind him every time and shot cheerleadersque bolts of cheertastic enthusiasm out of her clapping hands.

I think he should have adopted a more serious tone from the start and be as dour and pessimistic as possible like a fireside chat. He is only setting himself (and the masses) up for disappointment if he continues to do otherwise. On the flipside, I'm glad he is hitting the circuit to address people's fears. That's his job, whether you like him or not.

[Arfah]

You can't teach experience and Obama is a novice president. He's got a long, long way to go and I'm sure that he will improve, eventually.

[Jobu]

The all singing, all tap dancing President of the United States.

[ZeroZen]

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/letterman100.jpg
Whoaaattt...!!!?

[Invisigoth]

How dare he.

[ronnieraygun]

The all singing, all tap dancing President of the United States.




what do you want from me, man? You want me to get on the table and dance?

Would you like me to shine your shoes?

You want me to smile at you?

Because you definitely won't let me deal the cards. You might as well as call it white Jack.

............

[dindin]

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/letterman100.jpg
Whoaaattt...!!!?


i know lol

[Irons]

Obama
Tonight Show
Jay Leno
Doritos

and

This guy:
http://www.jackboulware.com/wp-content/uploads/billhicks.jpg

If the Dead could speak.

[FLYNAVY29]

I'm gonna reserve judgement until he makes it to the finals on American Idol.

[ronnieraygun]

I want exclusive video of the first time he takes an elbow or gets picked really hard in a pickup basketball game.

[AOCBravo2004]

Don't forget, he was on ESPN yesterday filling out a bracket. He sure does have a lot of time on his hands.......maybe that is why he didn't know about the AIG bonuses, he was busy filling out his bracket......

[Hilbert]

And for some reason I find myself asking "So what?"

[click]

^ Same here

[Zoomie]

And for some reason I find myself asking "So what?"
The big problem is while Obama goes running around campaigning for 2012, and goes on TV spots for ESPN and Jay Leno while claiming that he's got enough time to handle the problems at hand. One only needs to look at the vacant treasury department, and know that Obama's in over his head.

[Geezah]

Maybe this will be next.............
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/7142/dmshow.jpg

[bugkill]

Don't forget, he was on ESPN yesterday filling out a bracket. He sure does have a lot of time on his hands.......maybe that is why he didn't know about the AIG bonuses, he was busy filling out his bracket......

I would like to ask you and many others that are complaining about Obama filling out a damn bracket, as to what the f**k difference does it make if he took 20 min. to fill out a bracket? I can honestly say that I have seen Obama making moves trying to get things done since he took office. I may not agree with all of it, but he is doing something.

Some people feel content whining about the Prez filling out a bracket and showing up on Leno, but let's be honest, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he is doing. What's next, you gonna complain if he reads a story to his youngest duaghter at night, or if he takes 30 min. to screw his wife? Stop making a mockery of yourselves and understand that the Prez does not have to be holed up in the damn White House all the damn time just because the economy doing bad.

I like the fact that he is out and about doing town hall meetings (funny that no one has brought that up), press conferences, and showing a lighter side despite dealing with a tough challenge. I do not feel that he has to "pretend" that he is all consumed with the economy, because the economy can only work itself out, so why should he "fake" his way through it. People need to stop being silly and look at themselves. You may not be president, but what have many of you done during these hard times to make things better?

I'm willing to guess not much.

[Zoomie]

I would like to ask you and many others that are complaining about Obama filling out a damn bracket, as to what the f**k difference does it make if he took 20 min. to fill out a bracket? I can honestly say that I have seen Obama making moves trying to get things done since he took office. I may not agree with all of it, but he is doing something.

Some people feel content whining about the Prez filling out a bracket and showing up on Leno, but let's be honest, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he is doing. What's next, you gonna complain if he reads a story to his youngest duaghter at night, or if he takes 30 min. to screw his wife? Stop making a mockery of yourselves and understand that the Prez does not have to be holed up in the damn White House all the damn time just because the economy doing bad.

I like the fact that he is out and about doing town hall meetings (funny that no one has brought that up), press conferences, and showing a lighter side despite dealing with a tough challenge. I do not feel that he has to "pretend" that he is all consumed with the economy, because the economy can only work itself out, so why should he "fake" his way through it. People need to stop being silly and look at themselves. You may not be president, but what have many of you done during these hard times to make things better?

I'm willing to guess not much.
So tell me, when is he actually going to nominate people to fill the vacant treasury department?

[Dominique]

So tell me, when is he actually going to nominate people to fill the vacant treasury department?

Zommie, damn man, relax for a minute. Since Obama got elected POTUS, you're coming off sounding like a rabid dog every time you post about him. No I don't agree with a LOT of his plans, but damn, who really cares if he fills out some basket ball picks, or goes on a late night TV show? Go back and look at teh last few administrations and see how long it took them to fill all of their cabinet positions. Or what the last few Presidents have done. GW spent a lot of time away from the White House, hell I would expect anyone in their position to take some time away to get their head together. It's a high stress job, and I'd worry even more, if he didn't go out and do some things to unwind.

[Zoomie]

Zommie, damn man, relax for a minute. Since Obama got elected POTUS, you're coming off sounding like a rabid dog every time you post about him. No I don't agree with a LOT of his plans, but damn, who really cares if he fills out some basket ball picks, or goes on a late night TV show? Go back and look at teh last few administrations and see how long it took them to fill all of their cabinet positions. Or what the last few Presidents have done. GW spent a lot of time away from the White House, hell I would expect anyone in their position to take some time away to get their head together. It's a high stress job, and I'd worry even more, if he didn't go out and do some things to unwind.
Why should I relax? America's getting screwed over by Obama and Geitner the incompetent. Just watching the AIG witch trial makes me both angered and embarrassed at the way the administration is behaving and is and is not acting. For a man who claims to be deeply outraged and that the economy is his number one priority, it doesn't seem like he's really concerned about how over his head Geitner is.

[Hellfish]

Why should I relax? America's getting screwed over by Obama and Geitner the incompetent. Just watching the AIG witch trial makes me both angered and embarrassed at the way the administration is behaving and is and is not acting. For a man who claims to be deeply outraged and that the economy is his number one priority, it doesn't seem like he's really concerned about how over his head Geitner is.

Thank God we have you on the internet to bitch about, rather than do anything about, it.

[Dominique]

Why should I relax? America's getting screwed over by Obama and Geitner the incompetent. Just watching the AIG witch trial makes me both angered and embarrassed at the way the administration is behaving and is and is not acting. For a man who claims to be deeply outraged and that the economy is his number one priority, it doesn't seem like he's really concerned about how over his head Geitner is.

I'm not saying you don't have the right to complain, what I'm talking about is who the fvck cares if he goes on the Tonight Show? Really, as you just pointed out, there are far more important things to worry about other than him appearing on a late night talk show. All I'm saying is direct your energy where it might actually do some good, like writing your Congressman, or a letter to the editor of your local paper, and quit bitching about the small stuff.

[MX92L]

Did anyone else notice? HE'S BLACK, EWWW :roll:

[Mu-Meson]

I thought it went very well. I mean, it's not like he insulted disabled people or anything. Oh, wait.
But seriously, I don't care if he did pick slots for basketball, and I don't care about his joke about the special olympics. I actually agree that his bowling was "like the special olympics". But could we at least agree that he should nominate a Under-Secretary for Domestic Finance. And while he is at it, how about one for Under Secretary — International Affairs. And then, while he has the paperwork out maybe do one for Under Secretary — Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. Then Assistant Secretary — Economic Policy, Assistant Secretary — Financial Markets, Assistant Secretary (Deputy Under Secretary) — International Affairs. And on and on.


Assistant Secretary (Deputy Under Secretary) — Legislative Affairs
Assistant Secretary — Management and Chief Financial Officer
Assistant Secretary — Public Affairs/Director — Policy Planning
Assistant Secretary — Tax Policy
Chief Counsel — Internal Revenue Service/Assistant General Counsel for Tax
Commissioner — Internal Revenue (five-year terms of office)
General Counsel
Inspector General
Inspector General — Tax Administration
Treasurer — United States

If you had a new CEO move into a troubled business, fire all the management, appoint an incompetent idiot to VP Finance, and then for two months bring in NOT A SINGLE OTHER PERSON, wouldn't you ask why?

This may explain some of whats been going on with the AIG bonuses. The phones are ringing at the Treasury Dept but there is nobody there to answer.

[Backwoodshunter]

Even though I'm not the biggest supporter of our new president, I do like his laid back approach. I think getting out there on medium of communication alot of our average citizens are more likely to watch is a good idea, for those who don't pay alot of attention to the news.

[Geezah]

Did anyone else notice? HE'S BLACK, EWWW :roll:

NO, he's mixed race!

[WarDancer]

I thought he was hilareous! I especially liked his remark where he compared his bowling skills with the "special Olympic" types. Fracken elitist! God, this regime gets funnier by the day.

[Hellfish]

I thought he was hilareous! I especially liked his remark where he compared his bowling skills with the "special Olympic" types. Fracken elitist! God, this regime gets funnier by the day.

Speaking of special olympics...

[Jobu]

Once again Obama shows no class.

[Hellfish]

I had no idea all of you guys held the dignity of retards to be so lofty an ideal.

[ronnieraygun]

Speaking of special olympics...

LOL.........

Unless you have special needs kids, it's just manufactured outrage. I can't defend a stupid comment, but far more stupid things are said on late night TV.

[Hellfish]

Manufactured outrage. I like that phrase.

Next these reactionaries will start whining about how it's 'unpresidential' behavior...

[Irons]

"Manufactured outrage" l not using that term anymore. The more I see it, the less sense it makes. What isn't manufactured? Buzz Words suck. I'm sorry I participated. I was a victim of "Synergy." p-)

[bugkill]

I feel that the president used a bad choice of words, but it should not register any controversy. I have heard and said on several occasions about either my skill or someone else's that it was so terrible that it belonged in the special olympics.

Here is a fact, a special olympics competitor has far less skill than athletes in the olympics, so what the hell is the problem? I have a aunt and a brother in law that have Downs Syndrone and I was not offended by what he said because I completely understand where the Prez was coming from.

He was mocking himself, not those with disabilities, but I understand why he needed to apologize given the position that he holds. Other than that, this story is just something that people can go around in order to dirty him up, nothing more. It will be gone over the weekend.

[Walter Sobchak]

Don't forget, he was on ESPN yesterday filling out a bracket. He sure does have a lot of time on his hands.......maybe that is why he didn't know about the AIG bonuses, he was busy filling out his bracket......

No, it was because the bill was rammed through Congress virtually in secret, and good old Chris (3% home loan) Dodd put the bonuses in there. Hell, he has to pay back his "friends" who scratched his back with his preferential mortgage. If that sucker was in business, rather than government, he'd be in jail for taking favors from those he regulates!

Obama's only sin is letting it happen on his watch. Of course, he can always blame it on his "bail-out czar".

[I can't think of a name]

Palin would have never said that.

[Walter Sobchak]

...
Unless you have special needs kids, it's just manufactured outrage. I can't defend a stupid comment, but far more stupid things are said on late night TV.

What a ridiculous statement. That's like saying that unless you are black you can't be upset at those who would use the word ni**er. Or, unless you have been in a concentration camp, you can't be outraged about the holocaust or ethnic cleansing.

The fact is that words like "retard" and references jokes about "Special Olympics" tell us a lot about a person's sensitivity to those less fortunate. It's the same as a guy who tells sp*c jokes in front of an African-American; he probably tells ni**er jokes when he is with his Hispanic "friends".

I have another phrase for you" "situational ethics". That's where your ethical paradigm shifts with your surroundings.

By the way, tomorrow is National Down Syndrome Awareness Day. Maybe you will feel differently is someone makes a reference like this tomorrow.

I happen to think we can expect better from our leaders, especially one who knows what it's like to have certain epithets thrown at him!

Oh, and I am the parent of an adult child with profound disabilities, and even before he was born some 28 years ago, stupid statements like this royally pi**ed me off!



I had no idea all of you guys held the dignity of retards to be so lofty an ideal.

No, that is an ignorant statement.

[matthew.manhorn]

It is ok for liberals criticize president Bush for preventing a panic in a kindergarten classroom for 7 minutes during 911 while it's ok for Obama to go to Leno's show for hours during an economic crises.

I'm not a big fan of Bush but the liberal media is sure helluva disgusting

[I can't think of a name]

Does anyone remember where you were when FDR or JFK mocked the mentally disabled? Or went on a comedy show?

[Bia]

Thank God we have you on the internet to bitch about, rather than do anything about, it.


Speaking of special olympics...

X 2 Excellent :P


It is ok for liberals criticize president Bush for preventing a panic in a kindergarten classroom for 7 minutes during 911 while it's ok for Obama to go to Leno's show for hours during an economic crises.

I'm not a big fan of Bush but the liberal media is sure helluva disgustingHe didnt "prevent a panic" he turned into a deer in the headlights chewing on his inner lip looking like a shoplifting suspect waiting for someone to tell him what to do.

[JKD]

The President going and doing a town hall and going on late night tv to reach a large audience, many of whom may not otherwise follow the news, doesn't seem like a huge waste of time. At least somewhat more productive than clearing brush in Crawford.

And I'm sure you guys were equally upset at Bush who spent 800+ days on vacation during wartime and an economic crisis.

Nothing like a little faux outrage.

[Walter Sobchak]

Does anyone remember where you were when FDR or JFK mocked the mentally disabled? Or went on a comedy show?

But they weren't pop stars.

And if you will recall, FDR was disabled, and JFK had a disabled sister who his father had lobotomized.

[WarDancer]

X 2 Excellent :P

He didnt "prevent a panic" he turned into a deer in the headlights chewing on his inner lip looking like a shoplifting suspect waiting for someone to tell him what to do.

Oh, I see. But when OBH does it its seen as deep analytical thought process. Nice try.:bash:

At least Bush didnt have to wait for a teleprompter for a response.

[I can't think of a name]

But they weren't pop stars.

And if you will recall, FDR was disabled, and JFK had a disabled sister who his father had lobotomized.

Yep, they would have been more sensitive than Obama is about the mentally disabled.

Here is Olberdouche. Notice how he does not lay into Obama but asks how he can help Obama get passed this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0EcujFSn8&feature=player_embedded

[Irons]

"Olberdouche" LOL. You just coined a phrase my-man! Hear-Here!

[Bia]

Oh, I see. But when OBH does it its seen as deep analytical thought process. Nice try.:bash:

At least Bush didnt have to wait for a teleprompter for a response.So far... no one has whispered in his ear the United States is under attack so you have no point.

Bush didnt wait for teleprompter you're correct... or for a kicking in the arse.... he waited for the childrens story about a Goat to be finished.

"Sir... we're under attack"
"Hang on BillyBob... the goat is about to do sumthin"

[Gleipnir]

Wow, I was gonna say nice job without the teleprompter but then he let that special olympics joke slip-

not that I was bothered by it, due to over-exposure of seeing and hearing the word retard thrown about so casually in today's day and age

Maybe those teleprompters are there to keep his errant humour in check?
(before anyone answers, no I am not really asking this as a question)

[Dilla2k]

Don't forget, he was on ESPN yesterday filling out a bracket. He sure does have a lot of time on his hands.......maybe that is why he didn't know about the AIG bonuses, he was busy filling out his bracket......
And this is the problem. People are mad for the wrong reason. Hes in cali for other buisness so what if he takes an hour at the show and spends 15 minutes doing his brackets. I dont care if he schedules 3 hour blocks daily to jack off. We could make the same argument when Bush was playing golf as people fought in a war. I personally am disappointed he went on Leno just because it seems to lack the prestige and respect someones supposed to hold as POTUS. Sentor Obama sure, Candidate Obama i can tolerate but active president Obama on Leno just seems damn near disgraceful. Its taking pandering to a Palin level which i really dont like.

[Dilla2k]

The big problem is while Obama goes running around campaigning for 2012, and goes on TV spots for ESPN and Jay Leno while claiming that he's got enough time to handle the problems at hand. One only needs to look at the vacant treasury department, and know that Obama's in over his head.
Again to me this isnt a "to much time on his hands" issue for me. Its a "pandering and feeding into the celebrity in him" ****. Its so transparent and stupid.

[Dilla2k]

I thought he was hilareous! I especially liked his remark where he compared his bowling skills with the "special Olympic" types. Fracken elitist! God, this regime gets funnier by the day.

How is that elitest? Im as poor, unrefined and reside in a cave and i still make special olympic jokes. It was a gaffe if anything but far from tea and crumpets.

[Dilla2k]

What a ridiculous statement. That's like saying that unless you are black you can't be upset at those who would use the word ni**er. Or, unless you have been in a concentration camp, you can't be outraged about the holocaust or ethnic cleansing.

The fact is that words like "retard" and references jokes about "Special Olympics" tell us a lot about a person's sensitivity to those less fortunate. It's the same as a guy who tells sp*c jokes in front of an African-American; he probably tells ni**er jokes when he is with his Hispanic "friends".

I have another phrase for you" "situational ethics". That's where your ethical paradigm shifts with your surroundings.

By the way, tomorrow is National Down Syndrome Awareness Day. Maybe you will feel differently is someone makes a reference like this tomorrow.

I happen to think we can expect better from our leaders, especially one who knows what it's like to have certain epithets thrown at him!

Oh, and I am the parent of an adult child with profound disabilities, and even before he was born some 28 years ago, stupid statements like this royally pi**ed me off!




No, that is an ignorant statement.Ive used every derogatory term for every minority group in existence towards friends, it doesnt mean i dont sympathize their problems. Thats just a dumb statement on your part.

[WarDancer]

So far... no one has whispered in his ear the United States is under attack so you have no point.

Bush didnt wait for teleprompter you're correct... or for a kicking in the arse.... he waited for the childrens story about a Goat to be finished.

"Sir... we're under attack"
"Hang on BillyBob... the goat is about to do sumthin"

I see, so whats your defense of the messiahs insistence that the "spendulus" bill be passed urgently and sent to his desk immediately for signing, then he runs off the Hawaii and lets it sit on his desk for two days?

The selected one kept on saying the sky was going to fall unless the bill was passed. Then he took his sweet time signing it. Even went so far as to fly to another state (Colorado) to sign this "urgent" bill. I guess once he figured he had hood winked the public and the parties to a crime congress, the urgency wasnt there anymore.

[budgie]

I see, so whats your defense of the messiahs insistence that the "spendulus" bill be passed urgently and sent to his desk immediately for signing, then he runs off the Hawaii and lets it sit on his desk for two days?

The selected one kept on saying the sky was going to fall unless the bill was passed. Then he took his sweet time signing it. Even went so far as to fly to another state (Colorado) to sign this "urgent" bill. I guess once he figured he had hood winked the public and the parties to a crime congress, the urgency wasnt there anymore.


What, he's supposed to sign bills without reviewing them when they come to his desk? How long should such a process take?

This president doesn't have the expediting benefit of **** Cheney whispering in his ear "you don't need to bother reading it, just sign here." Maybe he has to think the $#!t through before giving his *******.

[Geezah]

What, he's supposed to sign bills without reviewing them when they come to his desk? How long should such a process take?

He promised that the bill would be open for the public to view online(as he loves techy stuff so much) for 5 days. We got 2 out of him!



This president doesn't have the expediting benefit of **** Cheney whispering in his ear "you don't need to bother reading it, just sign here." Maybe he has to think the $#!t through before giving his *******.

Or maybe he could follow through with the things he promised, after all it's all about Change and Hope!

[WarDancer]

What, he's supposed to sign bills without reviewing them when they come to his desk? How long should such a process take?

This president doesn't have the expediting benefit of **** Cheney whispering in his ear "you don't need to bother reading it, just sign here." Maybe he has to think the $#!t through before giving his *******.

No, he has Pelosi and Reid to do that job for him. Not to mention his constant companion, the teleprompter, to give him public speaking points. And you tell me, did he actually read the entire 1100 plus pages in the bill in two days? Thats why the AIG bonus fiasco is happening. No one read the damn thing!! I cant wait to see what else is in there.

[bugkill]

No, he has Pelosi and Reid to do that job for him. Not to mention his constant companion, the teleprompter, to give him public speaking points. And you tell me, did he actually read the entire 1100 plus pages in the bill in two days? Thats why the AIG bonus fiasco is happening. No one read the damn thing!! I cant wait to see what else is in there.

Here is where I disagree with everyone that seems to take issue with the bonuses. It is a political problem because of the way it looks, but the truth is that the bailout money is there to keep the company alive and running, which also means that the company can spend it the way they see fit.

The problem for Obama is that he came out too hard about bonus money being paid to executives of failing companies. When you sign a contract with a company and you meet the terms of the agreement, you should get paid. Yes, it sucks that millions of dollars is going to people that failed to do their job, but that is EXACTLY what a bailout does, it keeps all previous business transactions open, including paying bonuses.

All that is going on right now is the politicians playing political cover and having fun ripping executives, but do not be fooled by any of it. None of those politicians want to see AIG go under and they all knew what is in the damn bill because they ALL have had a hand in creating it. They knew that the bonuses would become an issue and they were prepared to deal with it.

I do not understand why some people have no clue about politicians being surrounded by their own political think tanks that will tell them what we will be a controversy and how best to deal with it. This will all go away soon because the next big thing will happen and push it to the back pages.

[WarDancer]

Here is where I disagree with everyone that seems to take issue with the bonuses. It is a political problem because of the way it looks, but the truth is that the bailout money is there to keep the company alive and running, which also means that the company can spend it the way they see fit.

The problem for Obama is that he came out too hard about bonus money being paid to executives of failing companies. When you sign a contract with a company and you meet the terms of the agreement, you should get paid. Yes, it sucks that millions of dollars is going to people that failed to do their job, but that is EXACTLY what a bailout does, it keeps all previous business transactions open, including paying bonuses.

All that is going on right now is the politicians playing political cover and having fun ripping executives, but do not be fooled by any of it. None of those politicians want to see AIG go under and they all knew what is in the damn bill because they ALL have had a hand in creating it. They knew that the bonuses would become an issue and they were prepared to deal with it.

I do not understand why some people have no clue about politicians being surrounded by their own political think tanks that will tell them what we will be a controversy and how best to deal with it. This will all go away soon because the next big thing will happen and push it to the back pages.

I agree. The bonuses were in the contract and AIG is legally obligated to pay them. Wether people like it or not. It is the rule of law. For congress to retroactively tax the bonuses at 90% is highly unconstitutional and creates a very slippery slope. Then you got Dodd feigning indignation when the story broke when all the while it turns out he is the one that put in the last minute amendment to grant the bonuses.

What happens when the next industry falls out of favor? Next thing you know congress is running around retroactively taxing people or industries to satisfy blood lust! We are not a nation of mob rule. We are a Republic of laws!

[bugkill]

I agree. The bonuses were in the contract and AIG is legally obligated to pay them. Wether people like it or not. It is the rule of law. For congress to retroactively tax the bonuses at 90% is highly unconstitutional and creates a very slippery slope. Then you got Dodd feigning indignation when the story broke when all the while it turns out he is the one that put in the last minute amendment to grant the bonuses.

What happens when the next industry falls out of favor? Next thing you know congress is running around retroactively taxing people or industries to satisfy blood lust! We are not a nation of mob rule. We are a Republic of laws!

Which is why I'm saying that this whole thing about the bonuses is one big ass smoke screen being perpetrated by both republicans and democrats. These poeple are not fools and they fully understand the psyche of the american public. The republicans will raise hell about it, but their hands are just as dirty in the whole mess, while the dems will act all shocked and s**t as if they did not read the damn thing.

They ALL made a big deal about bonuses BEFORE the damn bill was written, but all of sudden there is shock that Dodd (not all by himself I might add) added the provision that bonuses need to be paid. How stupid can the public be to believe any of this crap. When you do a bailout for a company, they still have to honor the contracts that they have with their employees, end of story.

What NEEDED to happen was to have complete and full investigations to look into any wrongdoing by the executives before handing out any money to the companies, so why did none of this happen? How can you give any bailout money to AIG if there are no provisions in place to make sure none of this crap happens again? I have yet to hear any charges being brought forth against any executives, so what the f**k is the real problem?

People, there is no controversy about the bonuses. This is all political grandstanding by the republicans, democrats, and the media. It will be back to business as usual in the coming weeks, and AIG and other companies will continue to get support.

[Walter Sobchak]

Ive used every derogatory term for every minority group in existence towards friends, it doesnt mean i dont sympathize their problems. Thats just a dumb statement on your part.

No, that means you just ignorant, insensitive and probably bigoted. I'm sure David Duke has sympathized with poor minorities, and Josef Mengele even felt some sympathy for his victims; yet, there is a spark of goodness in all persons, albeit small in many. But take heart, your ignorance, insensitivity and bigotry, unlike things that cause human disabilities, is curable with education and maturity. Heck, old George Wallace saw the light, and maybe you can too!

[Irons]

I'm with him Walter. I've used many slurs, and put downs. I don't and never will feel guilty about it, because I know what's in my soul, and so did my cohorts that spent and received them. I've never hurt a soul, or denied a job based upon race however. A mans Character is his own, but we've gotten away from the old maxim of "Sticks & Stones." Words only hurt you if you allow them to. Anyone who say's otherwise is just a "non-hacker" in my estimation. You've got to take responsibility for your own actions, and reactions. It's really all you've got as a human being if you get right down to it.

I've used them, and they have been used against me. I feel no guilt, nor anger over them what-so-ever. This is why Gran Torino was such a breath of fresh air. It's not what a man say's that give you true insight into his character, it's what he DOES that matters. As far as the "that ignorant" defense, well, Southpark did a pretty good job of putting that tired short-cut to thinking to bed. It's not ignorant. I just is what it is, and it's not important in the grand scheme of things.

[Bia]

No, that means you just ignorant, insensitive and probably bigoted. I'm sure David Duke has sympathized with poor minorities, and Josef Mengele even felt some sympathy for his victims; yet, there is a spark of goodness in all persons, albeit small in many. But take heart, your ignorance, insensitivity and bigotry, unlike things that cause human disabilities, is curable with education and maturity. Heck, old George Wallace saw the light, and maybe you can too!That's an opinion... not a fact sir.

Context. :P

[11 Bravo]

We are not a nation of mob rule. We are a Republic of laws!

This would be true excepting Oblahma the great is in the catbird seat and that spiffy has'nt been done right yet socialism rules the day in their party.

[Walter Sobchak]

That's an opinion... not a fact sir.

Context. :P

Which, as "that" is clearly singular?

I have to guess it is the first sentence. It was of course, opinion, as is 99.9999999% of the subjective "matter" written here, yours included.

As for "context", I just think that joking about societies' most vulnerable persons is somewhere between a manifestation of ignorance, which is forgivable, and the act of a bully who is having fun at the expense of someone who is utterly defenseless. Maybe it's my unique perspective, or "context", as the parent of an adult child with severe disabilities, but I have damn sure walked a different road than some of you.

The wonderful thing is that most "retards" are not blessed with minds that seek to denigrate others, nor do they usually comprehend that there are those who are making fun of them. I guess that's why they are so "safe" to make fun of, huh? They never complain, they never raise a fuss and they will never kick your ass or pull a knife on you!