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http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/1937559/betere-helm-voor-nederlandse-soldaten-in-2011.html
AMSTERDAM - Dutch troops from 2011 to wear a new helmet that weighs less, a better fit and more protection. The helmet consists of several parts which are removable. In addition, the safety helmet according to the designers in stripped down form a friendly relation.
This can be useful when contact with people is sought, according to the designers. This includes the glasses, there are variants in which the eyes are visible. What is often not the case.
http://media.nu.nl/m/m1bzthmajtii.jpg
Testing
If the tests for Galea (for Roman helmet) can extract good from 2011 to 5500 soldiers of the new helmets use.
New sections on the Galea, the old helmet in the nineties to replace his loose neck, jaw and ear. According to developer Jan Brouwer TNO, the helmets so that soldiers have rarely top of the skull can become injured.
"Also, we now extend protection for neck, neck and face, without the modern soldier as a knight looks," says Brouwer.
At a show in Prague was a design innovation rewarded.
(translation borrowed from a other forum)
iam worried about that the helmet consists out of several parts, iam afraid that after long use the pieces can get loose, or that the bullet will penetrate when it hits the line where the parts connect
looks like the helmet from ghost recond advanced warfighter
Niels
03-25-2009, 08:41 AM
Better translation: http://www.tno.nl/images/shared/overtno/magazine/em_1_2009_17.pdf
Stupid "soldiers gotta look friendly" bollocks. Maybe we can make the Diemacos shoot rainbows and flowers. THE LOCALS would love that.
Johnny_H02
03-25-2009, 09:04 AM
http://media.nu.nl/m/m1bzthmajtii.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9035/120pxiconmegamanhelmetm.png (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=120pxiconmegamanhelmetm.png)
Better translation: http://www.tno.nl/images/shared/overtno/magazine/em_1_2009_17.pdf
Stupid "soldiers gotta look friendly" bollocks. Maybe we can make the Diemacos shoot rainbows and flowers. THE LOCALS would love that.
http://www.tokyotimes.org/archives/hello_kitty_helmet.jpg
more friendly design at the cost of the soldiers protection.
zapatero
03-25-2009, 10:24 AM
Anyway nice piece of gear. I like that
FireNL
03-25-2009, 12:09 PM
lvl 1 reminds me of the ibh :)
not sure what to think about that. i was reading it and the things mentioned here came in my mind aswell.
what if it falls apart? what if you get fragmentation on the edge? etc etc...
i read in 'de stentor' that TNO is also working on a new vest? cant find the article online anyhow :(
things like that don't work as army gear, its much easier and better to make 3 diffrent helmets, like the tc2000 tc2001 and tc2002
Skutatos
03-25-2009, 01:38 PM
Well, I wont comment on the usefulness of the helmet but what is with the ridge at the top? Kinda reminds me of the thracian helments used by many of Alexander's successor states(the one with a low ridge running from front to back, not the ones of the phrygian style).
FireNL
03-25-2009, 01:41 PM
metal mohawk :p im curious if this would work. hope they'll give it a few big tries.
Actually it seems like there may be a trend for modular helmets. I saw a picture a few years ago of a prototype German helmet and it also used the modular concept. Also saw some pictures of helmets from the 2009 SHOT Show which look similar in concept.
Is the "jaw protection" module an integrated gas mask?
-----JT-----
bazyl813
03-25-2009, 02:15 PM
Here are helmets from Shot Show 2009:
FAST Ballistic Helmet
http://www.ops-core.com/images/product/FAST-HELMET/FAST_BAL.jpg
and
FAST Bump Helmet
http://www.ops-core.com/images/product/FAST-HELMET/FAST_BMP.jpg
Anthony91
03-25-2009, 03:25 PM
Cool design, though what's the tan plastic parts on the side for?
Trouble
03-25-2009, 03:32 PM
Cool design, though what's the tan plastic parts on the side for?
They are attachment rails, for adding lights, cameras, comms gear, and what ever the R&D folks dream up in the future, etc, etc .
bazyl813
03-25-2009, 04:49 PM
ACH-ARC Kit (Accessory Rail Connector)Quickly attach or release a variety of accessories including:
Flashlight, Camera, Visor, COMs, Strobe, Mandible, Battery Pack, O2 Mask
http://www.ops-core.com/images/product/ACH-MICH/ACH_ARC.jpg
Anthony91
03-25-2009, 04:54 PM
They are attachment rails, for adding lights, cameras, comms gear, and what ever the R&D folks dream up in the future, etc, etc .
Interesting concept, seems like a neat thing to have.
Soldat_Américain
03-25-2009, 05:30 PM
Does it come with a HUD and an integrated smart rifle with smart bullets that follow whatever you've locked on to? It would be nice if there was a HUD and some A/C
http://media.nu.nl/m/m1bzthmajtii.jpg
http://www.jeffpidgeon.com/uploaded_images/headshot-703506.jpg
I like it
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2223/45137713.jpg
lachesis
03-25-2009, 06:53 PM
The LVL2 and LVL3 look awesome
wildheart
03-25-2009, 07:07 PM
'Modular Helmet' eh?.
1st I liked the idea that if your out and about you can adjust the protection level you need as per the situation. eg if your providing top cover on your APC/whatever- use option 3, then scale it down to option 2 if your required to spend a period of the day out and about on foot.
But then realised that if that was due to happen, why not just keep a spare 'full mask' in your ride to save the Guy from farting around with spare parts.
Skutatos
03-25-2009, 11:17 PM
Hmm, with the larger pictures, it appears the modular pieces wont decrease protection at the connections, as the side piece overlaps the helmet, protection from the side should be fine, and protection from above is more or less covered regardless of whether you wear the sides.
Dercius
03-26-2009, 06:36 AM
Level 3 reminds me to Star Wars Imperial Scout helmet.:roll:
Hmm, with the larger pictures, it appears the modular pieces wont decrease protection at the connections, as the side piece overlaps the helmet, protection from the side should be fine, and protection from above is more or less covered regardless of whether you wear the sides.
but will it hold after being hit one or two times?
muttbutt
03-26-2009, 03:37 PM
but will it hold after being hit one or two times?
Does any helmet "hold" after being hit multiple times?
If you've been hit in the head more then twice, my advice would be to move.
Ipkiss
03-27-2009, 06:04 AM
Level 3 afaik will include CBRN protection using an overpressure system.
*Edit* due to the costs no CRBN capability unfortunately..
My advice if you have been hit in the head twice...duck!
Soldat_Américain
03-27-2009, 06:20 AM
my advice would be to start digging...do they issue etools anymore?
madmike09
03-27-2009, 12:19 PM
Does any helmet "hold" after being hit multiple times?
If you've been hit in the head more then twice, my advice would be to move.
i'm writing this just to have 10 or more characters and put this icon.rofl
B_706K
03-27-2009, 06:31 PM
Level 3 reminds me to Star Wars Imperial Scout helmet.:roll:
If only.. That'd be awesomep-)
odogg
03-27-2009, 08:01 PM
Reminds me the helmets from Starship Troopers...
Reminds me the helmets from Starship Troopers...
Keep watching movies.
tercio67
03-28-2009, 03:40 PM
Here is a picture of the 'original' mock-up with integrated cbrn.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4176/4648bb3e8a7c4f298049961.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4648bb3e8a7c4f298049961.jpg)
Unfortunately the R&D budget got slashed, the Afghanistan operation is taking a lot of money.
nick1
03-28-2009, 10:36 PM
When is somone going to make a helmate that can stop a 30 grain projectile at 2100 fps.
That way the 5.7 round is toast.
REMOV
03-30-2009, 06:04 AM
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h90/REMOV/Inne/_Dutch_Helmet_01.jpg
The mock-up of this helmet from Prague ;)
RSone
03-30-2009, 06:23 AM
Here is a picture of the 'original' mock-up with integrated cbrn.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4176/4648bb3e8a7c4f298049961.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4648bb3e8a7c4f298049961.jpg)
Unfortunately the R&D budget got slashed, the Afghanistan operation is taking a lot of money.
I like this iteration of the Galea better, the 'original' just is too bulky for my taste. Even if offers CRBN protection. We still have gasmasks though.p-)
From the Dutch MinDef
TNO heeft in opdracht van Defensie Materieel Organisatie (DMO) een nieuwe combihelm ontwikkeld. Het ontwerp is gebaseerd op ervaringen in recente missiegebieden als Uruzgan. Wanneer alle tests goed verlopen wordt de Galea (het Romeinse woord voor helm) in 2011 aan de eerste militairen uitgereikt. De nieuwe helm vloeit voort uit het project Verbeterd Operationeel Soldatensysteem (VOSS) en heeft enorme voordelen. De Galea weegt minder, zit beter en biedt meer bescherming. De Galea De helm bestaat uit afneembare delen en de bedoeling is dat de uitgeklede vorm (niveau 0 op de tekening) een vriendelijke uitstraling biedt. Tijdens patrouilles komt dat de contacten met de bevolking ten goede. Galea weegt 1100 gram. Dat is bijna de helft van het gewicht van de helm die sinds de jaren ’90 in gebruik is. De pasvorm is vakkundig verbeterd, waardoor de helm stevig op het hoofd zit. Ook nieuw zijn de ergonomische aansluitingen voor nachtkijkers en tussen de helm en het hoofd komt mogelijk een aircosysteem. Verder zitten er losse nek- oor- en kaakstukken op die bij veel lawaai het geluid dempen. TNO onderzoekt momenteel hoe ze ook de bescherming van hals, nek en gezicht kan verbeteren en doet daar nu onderzoek naar. De eerste testserie van de Galea wordt eind dit jaar in het veld beproefd. Het ontwerp zelf is al in de prijzen gevallen op een innovatiebeurs in Praag. Meer draagcomfort , meer flexibiliteit en betere bescherming zijn uitgangspunten van het project VOSS. Naast de helm wordt voor het VOSS onder meer een smart vest en een communicatie- en informatiemodule ontwikkeld. Doel is om de gevechtsveldfuncties van de soldaat te verbeteren en zo goed mogelijk op elkaar af te stemmen. Zijn uitrusting dient niet langer een verzameling van componenten te zijn, maar een licht draagbaar systeem waarin de benodigde functies zoveel mogelijk worden geďntegreerd. Voor deelname aan VOSS worden 5500 gevechtsmilitairen geselecteerd. Het programma is een uitvloeisel van het Soldier Modernisation Programma (SMP) dat in 1998 is gestart.
Translation:
TNO has developed a new combihelmet for the Defense Materials Organisation(DMO). The helmet's design is based on operational experience from recent deployements such as the current one in Afghanistan. When/if all the tests are completed succesfully, the Galea(Roman word for helmet) will be handed out to the first batch of soldiers by 2011.
The new helmet stems from the Verbeterd Operationeel SoldatenSysteem (VOSS in Dutch or Improved Operational Soldiers'System, IOSS in English) and offers some tremendous advantages. The Galea weighs less, has a better fit and offers better protection. The helmet consists of multiple detacheable parts, and the intention is that the dressed down variant(variant zero on the schematic) (weird, cuz this is just the glasses and the earbud, so no helmet at all) has a friedly, approacheable appearance. This benefits contact with the local population when out on patrol.
Galea weighs 1100 grams, which is almost half the weight of the current helmet, which has been in use since the 90's
The helmet fitting form has been improved proffesionally, resulting in a secure fit on the head. New as well are the ergonomic mounts for nightvision goggles and the helmets may possibly be equipped with a airconditioning system, situated between the helmet and the head(my guess is that we'll probably see a cap, to be worn on the head and underneath the helmet, fitted with mini coolant tubes, like the shirt TNO developed/is developing for helo and fighter pilots)
It is also fitted with seperate neck, jaw and ear pieces,which cancel out noise at high ambient sound levels. TNO is currently researching how it can improve the protection of neck, throat and face even more. The first test run of Galea helmets will be evaluated in the field later this year. The design itself has received several awards at a innovation summit in Prague.
More wearer comfort, more flexibility and better protection, are core components of Project VOSS. In addition to the helmet, a smart vest and a communications and combat information module are also being developed under the project(the TNO micro fuel cell is probably part of this as well). Goal is to improve and harmonize the battlefield capabilities of the soldier as much as possible. His gear no longer is a collection of individual components, but a lightweight, wearable system in which the components needed are integrated as much as possible.
5500 frontline troops have been selected for (initial?) participation in VOSS. The programme is a evolution of the Soldier Modernisation Programme(SMP), which started in 1998.
I translated it myself, so the grammar might be a bit wonky, but at least it's better than Babelfish.
tercio67
03-30-2009, 07:49 AM
Re CBRN
The modularity of the design will alow integration of a CBRN chin-piece at a later date however.
Soldat_Américain
03-30-2009, 08:24 AM
Oakley makes a set of air conditioning ballistic goggles called the SI Ballistic Fan Goggles
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=987&pictureid=11714
Hopefully this existing technology could lend an idea or two to the project.
Gene2
04-01-2009, 12:18 AM
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg240/daneofwar/stuff/futuretroop.jpg
I find the FWC technology pretty interesting all around, but thats pretty cool with the translation system/concept integrated within the helmet...
http://www.mike-spike.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/content-bkg-thumb.jpg
I wonder how long it will take for that helmet to get on Ebay. I want one LOLZ.
Gene2
04-01-2009, 12:27 AM
I wonder how long it will take for that helmet to get on Ebay. I want one LOLZ.
Maybe when we're in our sixties lol :D
Seraphim
04-01-2009, 12:33 AM
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg240/daneofwar/stuff/futuretroop.jpg
I find the FWC technology pretty interesting all around, but thats pretty cool with the translation system/concept integrated within the helmet...
That article was published probably about 4 years ago.
Argysh
04-01-2009, 06:03 AM
That article was published probably about 4 years ago.
And it reminds me of the power rangers...
That article was published probably about 4 years ago.
I first started seeing that concept back in 2000-2001. So 8-9 years ago. p-)
Gene2
04-03-2009, 07:43 PM
That concept was not posted 8-9 years ago...the earlier FWC concept was, which, for a time, showed the wrist-mounted weapons platform. Even though it is about 4-5 years old, it still exists due to just looking at the 2030 Initiative Concept (even though it is not necesarily what it will even be close to looking like in that timeframe). I just find the technology incorporated/envisioned with the helmet quite neat.
Stridsvagn
07-21-2009, 03:18 PM
Here is a picture of the 'original' mock-up with integrated cbrn.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4176/4648bb3e8a7c4f298049961.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4648bb3e8a7c4f298049961.jpg)
Unfortunately the R&D budget got slashed, the Afghanistan operation is taking a lot of money.
LOL! Halo!
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