Girl, 14, faces **** charge of MySpace pictures of herself

[Kampfbaer]

Teenage girl charged with child ****ography over **** pictures
Allegedly posted pictures of herself on her MySpace page
Faces lengthy jail term, name on *** offenders' register
A TEENAGER is facing child ****ography charges after posting **** photos of herself on her MySpace page.

The 14-year-old girl from New Jersey was arrested after uploading 30 explicit images to the social network, according to US media reports.

She posted her photos "because she wanted her boyfriend to see them", a police spokesman said.

Authorities arrested her after receiving an online tip-off about the images, which could have been viewed by anyone who "friended" her on MySpace.

MySpace has not commented on the incident, but has a team which reviews content uploaded to the social network.

The New Jersey case is the latest in a series of legal wrangles surrounding teenagers’ use of mobiles and the internet.

In a separate case, three teenage girls are suing a US prosecutor who accused them of peddling "child ****ography" after semi-**** pictures of them were sent by phone to friends.

Teachers alerted the authorities after discovering a waist-up image of two girls covered just by a bra and another image of a girl topless.

District Attorney George Skumanik called for the girls to undergo five weeks of behaviour courses and take a drug test or face prosecution, according to a letter apparently sent to the teenagers' parents.

The American Civil Liberties Union, a co-signatory to the lawsuit, said Mr Skumanik's threat was unconstitutional, and prosecution could have landed the girls on the *** offenders' register, harming future job prospects.

"In many states these charges would land these kids on (*** offender) databases ... for 10 years or more, and prevent them from getting many types of jobs," said Witold Walczak, from the ACLU in Pennsylvania.

"That's a heck of a lesson for a kid who probably doesn't even realise she is doing something wrong."

The New Jersey girl faces up to 17 years in jail if convicted of possession and distribution of child ****ography. She could also be placed on a state register of *** offenders.

The girl has been released into her mother's custody, and NorthJersey.com reported there may be more arrests on the way. "We consider this case a wake-up call to parents," police said.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25249886-5014239,00.html

[WiraBengis]

That girl is dumb, imo.

[Mr.Woland]

Brainless chiсk.....

[PeterRJG]

Without getting into the morality of a 14 year old girl engaging in ***, it would've been simpler if she had just went over the boyfriend's place and took her clothes off.

Her desire to be a "scene girl" is going to cost her now.

[PeterRJG]

Probably on /b/ where all such things can be found.

[Vorian]

Things like that make me not wanting to have a daughter....

[Aerosoul]

Jailbait is in.
All the young girls these days are posing in their underwear or less. And plenty of it finds its way onto the interweb.

[kuttless]

Wow this girl is extremly stupid. For one she could have just messaged the pics to him. That aside shes still stupid but still seems kind of a steep price to pay.

[xav]

What I don't get is how they get filed as child offenders or charged as "child ****".

There is quite a stretched between the creepy 60 years old guy trying to molest young kids or get ahold of naked kids pictures and these teenagers/kids who are obviously clueless (and stupid) and post their own pictures themselves.

I understand the need to charge them in order to teach them and protect them... but again I don't think the two should be considered the same.

[kuttless]

Things like that make me not wanting to have a daughter....

I wonder where the parents where? After all the talk of myspace and peods I would wacth my kid like a hawk. Some parents never cease to surprise me.

Aero is rigth on that.

[b0sco]

I wonder where the parents where? After all the talk of myspace and peods I would wacth my kid like a hawk. Some parents never cease to surprise me.

Aero is rigth on that.

I bet you her mother has a MySpace page herself. Maybe the granny too.

[Kap]

What a dumb ass, it says right on Myspace when you upload, pictures cannot contain any nudity of any kind.

[SulpitusDesiderius]

Things like that make me not wanting to have a daughter....
you said it man, ... me neither.

[Far]

That's soooo hot.
Not really. Once again, proof that parents don't keep close enough eyes on their kids. Kind of like that "sexting" craze going on right now.

[Bringer of Greater Things]

This girl is stupid, but charging her with child **** is equally so.
The law needs to catch up with technology. This is in the same category as flashing her ****s on Bourbon Street.

[Blue_0]

Stupid Girl. Way to extreem of a punishment.

[Bia]

Blood guts war famine death destruction... all hailed in media.
Some new ****s... must be the work of evil.

:/

[ayanami_tard]

and i was about to post this in ot/h section

[muck]

That'll teach her.
Aren't those people considering that their images could still be found in the internet in maybe ten or twenty years?
And yes, the parents are to blame here as well.

[Hando]

Considering the pics where online long enough for the police to find them, the girls in question are going to have some problems later in life even if they aren't charged. They would already be circulating, especially67 now that attention has been drawn to them...

The girls can now forget any future job in public office or education...
"OMG, there are rude pics of her on the internet, FOR GAWDS SAKE, THINK OF THE CHILDREN"

[matthew.manhorn]

Things like that make me not wanting to have a daughter....

x2, having a son is way better

[TheKiwi]

My best friends daughter is approaching teenage years. He says if he ever sees a guy who looks at her like he looked at girls when he was a teenager, he'll preemptively hit the kid in the face.... :D

Daughters are punishment for having been a teenage guy I think.

[AgentX]

What I don't get is how they get filed as child offenders or charged as "child ****".

There is quite a stretched between the creepy 60 years old guy trying to molest young kids or get ahold of naked kids pictures and these teenagers/kids who are obviously clueless (and stupid) and post their own pictures themselves.

I understand the need to charge them in order to teach them and protect them... but again I don't think the two should be considered the same.
Indeed!

17 years for 3rd degree naivete reeks of a fascist cry for moral cleanliness. Yet another victimless crime that'll only result in victimization of the perpetrator by the rest of us. Good going, civilization!

[Bro Jangles]

i may be wrong, but isnt this kinda harsh? shouldnt she get grounded till shes 30, and her mom call her a slut?

[Bulletproof]

Sure that was stupid, but prosecuting her for child ****ography at 14 and adding her to the *** offender database for a topless pic of herself is friggin ridiculous.

[jokuvaan]

Underage **** is hot potato in many countries and people in power dont want to risk their reputation by fixing legislation errors, like being accused of own pictures.

[Horna]

I am left pretty much speechles by the fact that she is going to get prosecuted for doing what is admittedly a rather thoughtless but in the end pretty damn trivial thing. It would be quite a different thing if it would have been an adult that posted those pictures and I do agree that child ****ography, child abuse and *** trafficking should be actively combatted. That fight should not however make such abuses of legislation and perversions of justice possible. All in all that shows a very serious legislative lack of thought.

[Invisigoth]

Let me say: Only in America :roll: Not the picture part, but actually considering trying to persecute and register a 14-year old as a *** offender for smth like that.

[PeterRJG]

Guys, she *might* face up to 17 years in the can and be registered as a *** offender. I'm guessing they're the maximum penalties for the offences.

Chances are she'll be rapped over the knuckles, called an immature so-and-so and given x amount of hours in a clinic to rehabilitate. If that.

[firemedic]

She should not be charged with child ****ography. Maybe indecent exposure or public nudity. 14 year olds are quite worldly these days. It worries me because I have 2 daughters. This should be handled by the parents and some counseling. She should also be banned from myspace for life. It's to bad the prudes are gonna want to ruin her life over this.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

That's a good point. If we're all keen to go easy on her because she's an idiotic minor, then somebody else has to take the responsibility for the crime. I think the parents are a good place to start.

[AgentX]

That's a good point. If we're all keen to go easy on her because she's an idiotic minor, then somebody else has to take the responsibility for the crime. I think the parents are a good place to start.
And while we're at it, let's add mass media and the collective social *** frenzy to the list for selling teens as *** symbols. Human ******ity is complex enough a subject to ponder upon for psychologists and scientists. Strict laws based on ages old moral values are only adding to the problem.

My two cents, of course!

[xav]

And while we're at it, let's add mass media and the collective social *** frenzy to the list for selling teens as *** symbols. Human ******ity is complex enough a subject to ponder upon for psychologists and scientists. Strict laws based on ages old moral values are only adding to the problem.

My two cents, of course!

Spot on!!!

[Bia]

I bet thousands of years ago some girl flashed her new ****s at boys somewhere on this planet when she wasnt supposed to.

[Hollis]

And while we're at it, let's add mass media and the collective social *** frenzy to the list for selling teens as *** symbols. Human ******ity is complex enough a subject to ponder upon for psychologists and scientists. Strict laws based on ages old moral values are only adding to the problem.

My two cents, of course!

I guess the interpretation is; I can't get laid under the current rules of engagement. I needs new rulzs, more favorable for me.

Moral laws have been swinging back and forth for ages (depending on social group), if anything else. People get carried away, realizes it screwed them up, they over react and then things get more restrictive. They then realize that screws them up and things over swing back in the other direction.


I bet thousands of years ago some girl flashed her new ****s at boys somewhere on this planet when she wasnt supposed to.


There is probably nothing new, when it comes to human nature and things people do. I guess it proves, those who don't remember history (Or never learned it) will repeat it.

[Pappy]

I bet thousands of years ago some girl flashed her new ****s at boys somewhere on this planet when she wasnt supposed to.

I bet thousands of years ago girls were getting married at 12 before they even got ****s.

Seriously though, charging her with child ****ography? Really? That is so rediculous. It's not like she posted pictures of other **** minors. It was herself! Yeah, myspace should ban her, but she shouldn't even be charged with indecent exposure because it's the internet, not some public park. Child ****ography laws were instituted to protect minors from predators. Not to punish minors for doing something stupid.

[MaDuce]

Between this and watching Taken have a daughter is looking worse and worse.
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[AmericanAirman]

What? 17 years? Are you kidding me? They lock drug dealers up for less!

Girls send pictures of themselves to guys (or the whole school) all the time, it happens, their stupid, and they pay the emotional price. And how exactly is she being charged with child ****, couldn't she claim incompetence because she is under 18, does she have the right yet to do with her image what she wants?

Oh and someone brought up the good point of a girl flashing a whole street, same situation basically just different medium. Reminds me of Bike Week and Spring Break really.

[Kit]

I've heard this saying.

Have a son, you only have to worry about that that one ****.
Have a daughter, you have to worry about all the other ****s.

But anyway, this is just dumb. I know for certain that this girl is not the first minor to pose topless on myspace. Why is she taking so much flack now?

I think these networking sites should screen uploaded pics. It's inconvenient but this sort of thing happens daily, and pisses a lot of people off. But the root of the problem lies with the parents. The worst I've done on the internet was go on a **** surfing extravaganza when I was 12. My dad found out and confronted me about it. Since then, **** has been minimal/nonexistent. Parents need to stop viewing their kids as self-responsible angels and call them out when they screw up.

[MrNevets55]

foolish fool

[AgentX]

I guess the interpretation is; I can't get laid under the current rules of engagement. I needs new rulzs, more favorable for me.

Moral laws have been swinging back and forth for ages (depending on social group), if anything else. People get carried away, realizes it screwed them up, they over react and then things get more restrictive. They then realize that screws them up and things over swing back in the other direction.
Interpretations are almost entirely subjective.

I do somewhat agree with the second half, though. Still, why judge someone having *** with cars, bicycles or vacuum cleaners or girls flashing harmless teats to their partners when you only have little understanding of human ******ity? Why sentence him to prison while millions are doing vibrators and what not? For all I know, we could be enjoying intimate moments with delicate machines 10-25 years from now. Judicial experts ought to amend laws concerning victimless crimes.

[Hollis]

I've heard this saying.

Have a son, you only have to worry about that that one ****.
Have a daughter, you have to worry about all the other ****s.

But anyway, this is just dumb. I know for certain that this girl is not the first minor to pose topless on myspace. Why is she taking so much flack now?

I think these networking sites should screen uploaded pics. It's inconvenient but this sort of thing happens daily, and pisses a lot of people off. But the root of the problem lies with the parents. The worst I've done on the internet was go on a **** surfing extravaganza when I was 12. My dad found out and confronted me about it. Since then, **** has been minimal/nonexistent. Parents need to stop viewing their kids as self-responsible angels and call them out when they screw up.


I think your last paragraph seems to answer you question. Kids plus new technology = a mess. Not all kids are angels, some are very cruel and evil minded, some are just stupid, and then we have social pressure of all kinds. Places like myspace, youtube just adds another added dimension where all the negative and positive aspects of our society can happen and for kids without parents knowing or helping them make good choices.

Child **** is a issue, as well as defining it. The right of privacy, the right to privacy and balancing all of that has gotten to be more and more difficult. Nothing on the net is private, as innocent as this maybe, things on the internet gets harvested for other uses.

If there is any good in this, maybe if it causes others kids to think before doing something stupid. I think the internet is/can be more dangerous than power tools. Expect that with power tools, they are not that easy or desirable to use and some supervision usually comes with them.

[Hollis]

Interpretations are almost entirely subjective.

I do somewhat agree with the second half, though. Still, why judge someone having *** with cars, bicycles or vacuum cleaners or girls flashing harmless teats to their partners when you only have little understanding of human ******ity? Why sentence him to prison while millions are doing vibrators and what not? For all I know, we could be enjoying intimate moments with delicate machines 10-25 years from now. Judicial experts ought to amend laws concerning victimless crimes.


I agree, punishment need to be based on something more than the need to punish.

Second part, I don't believe there is really a victimless crime. We are not alone or isolated in this world, where ever we go, we bring all of ourselves with us. Attitudes and self interests are defined by what we do and who we are. What ever effects our characters, will effect how we deal with others.

Moral turpitude is important.

[AgentX]

Second part, I don't believe there is really a victimless crime. We are not alone or isolated in this world, where ever we go, we bring all of ourselves with us. Attitudes and self interests are defined by what we do and who we are. What ever effects our characters, will effect how we deal with others.

Moral turpitude is important.
I sense much socialism in you. p-)

Laws exist for the greater good of the whole, not just for the sake of punishing perpetrators of moral and criminal misconduct, I agree. But we shouldn't forget how many lost their life under the guillotine of severely outdated and often misused laws. Not all heretics and scientists hanged and burned at stake by priestly kings and the Church were morally corrupt and savage criminals, IMO. Laws, like anything else man-made, are definitely not divine or pious enough to escape the scrutiny of skeptic minds.

What good would sentencing a teenage girl to 17 years in prison possibly do for the benefit of everyone else? I think we've all seen 14-year-olds sleeping around with their partners, with or without protection. That's curiosity, armed to teeth with wild ****** urge, not a moral crime. If homo******ity is perfectly acceptable by laws present day society, what's so wrong with consensual incest, for example, if not for the Biblical guilt and shame? Morality and ethical values are but a dynamic by-product of our subconscious turbulence. Either they withstand the test of time and survive or left behind to die and mocked at.

Thou shalt not is a legacy.

[Hollis]

I sense much socialism in you. p-)

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I don't see how you can say that, also our reply didn't seem like you didn't read my post. My first sentence had to do with punishment. Again it needs to be reasonable, kind of like what you are sayng.


NO I do not support a hedonist narcissist sociopathic society. Even Lazier fare capitalism can be viewed that way.

Because there were unjust laws does not mean all laws are unjust.


Because laws were used unjustly does not mean all laws are used unjustly.

[pacifist]

This is stupid. I didn't know law is so ****ed in the states.


She shouldn't be charged with anything. They were pictures of herself.

[Seiran]

What a dumb ass, it says right on Myspace when you upload, pictures cannot contain any nudity of any kind.

Come on Kap, you know better to think that would actually stop someone.

[wagon]

I sense much socialism in you. p-)

Laws exist for the greater good of the whole, not just for the sake of punishing perpetrators of moral and criminal misconduct, I agree. But we shouldn't forget how many lost their life under the guillotine of severely outdated and often misused laws. Not all heretics and scientists hanged and burned at stake by priestly kings and the Church were morally corrupt and savage criminals, IMO. Laws, like anything else man-made, are definitely not divine or pious enough to escape the scrutiny of skeptic minds.

What good would sentencing a teenage girl to 17 years in prison possibly do for the benefit of everyone else? I think we've all seen 14-year-olds sleeping around with their partners, with or without protection. That's curiosity, armed to teeth with wild ****** urge, not a moral crime. If homo******ity is perfectly acceptable by laws present day society, what's so wrong with consensual incest, for example, if not for the Biblical guilt and shame? Morality and ethical values are but a dynamic by-product of our subconscious turbulence. Either they withstand the test of time and survive or left behind to die and mocked at.

Thou shalt not is a legacy.

I see your point. Without 'biblical' laws what system of 'laws' would we have arrived at? Would it be OK to steal, kill, etc.? An examination of the 613 'Mitzvot' reveala many laws regarding diet, ******ity and even menstruation that most of us would ignore and find rather arcaic in their intent.

Why was the age of consent (in Australia) set at 16? Why not 12? Is it because there is some chance of somebody aged 16 can make the right choices? However, the law is regularly disobeyed - and that is effectively 'sanctioned' by parents who provide inadequate supervision for their 'horny' teenagers.

I feel any punishment for that girl involving jail, criminal convictions, etc. are way over the top and silly but she needs to be made to realise what she did was wrong (I sure she knows!). As mentioned earlier, children are '******ised' at such early ages by media and advertising. How many of us here have been 'distracted' by a scantily-clad young lady only to find out that she is jailbait?

[AgentX]

NO I do not support a hedonist narcissist sociopathic society. Even Lazier fare capitalism can be viewed that way.
Capitalism helped shape a highly individualistic society, that is riddled with visions of solipsism. So much so that making an example out of someone has little to almost no effect on others. If it did, at all, we would witness prisons collapsing onto each others and vanishing in the oblivion of obscurity. But we don't, and it's turning into the same hedonistic society of simpletons that you and I dread so much.

I certainly didn't mean to assert that all laws are unjust or outdated. It's just the ones that affect us much.

[AgentX]

I see your point. Without 'biblical' laws what system of 'laws' would we have arrived at? Would it be OK to steal, kill, etc.? An examination of the 613 'Mitzvot' reveala many laws regarding diet, ******ity and even menstruation that most of us would ignore and find rather arcaic in their intent.

...

I feel any punishment for that girl involving jail, criminal convictions, etc. are way over the top and silly but she needs to be made to realise what she did was wrong (I sure she knows!). As mentioned earlier, children are '******ised' at such early ages by media and advertising. How many of us here have been 'distracted' by a scantily-clad young lady only to find out that she is jailbait?
You're right in your speculations, sir! All our primitive laws have sprung from those handed over to us by the gods. I cannot afford to refute it all in a whim of a moment. But there are times when it's morally just to steal and kill. Stealing started its career as a sin when we were little more than savage groups of hunter-gatherers, and it was considered lowly to steal food or women from others. Not because it was/is morally wrong to steal, but it's thought of as a cowardly act -- taking something without having to fight for it. Why is killing an aggressor or a criminal not morally wrong, but slaying a helpless is? I'm an atheist, but still ...would god take into account the differences in situations and reasons for the murder?

Agreed upon! Hence I stated in one of my early posts in this thread that media ought to be prosecuted for this heightened ****** flows as well. Why let a body corrupt innocents and wait till the latter has committed an act of unlawful shame, only to make an example out of him for the rest of us? Why can't we just stop the moral corruption as we see fit?

[wagon]

You're right in your speculations, sir! All our primitive laws have sprung from those handed over to us by the gods. I cannot afford to refute it all in a whim of a moment. But there are times when it's morally just to steal and kill. Stealing started its career as a sin when we were little more than savage groups of hunter-gatherers, and it was considered lowly to steal food or women from others. Not because it was/is morally wrong to steal, but it's thought of as a cowardly act -- taking something without having to fight for it. Why is killing an aggressor or a criminal not morally wrong, but slaying a helpless is? I'm an atheist, but still ...would god take into account the differences in situations and reasons for the murder?

Agreed upon! Hence I stated in one of my early posts in this thread that media ought to be prosecuted for this heightened ****** flows as well. Why let a body corrupt innocents and wait till the latter has committed an act of unlawful shame, only to make an example out of him for the rest of us? Why can't we just stop the moral corruption as we see fit?

There are things that you have to do and things you don't. Stealing food (when you have none) to feed your children is probably OK in my book -having 'relations' with a 14year old is not. Killing a man who threatens your safety in your home or whatever is probably OK - but shooting him for fun is not. It also raises other interesting questions - eg. if someone was intending on killing your whole family if you didn't steal something for them would you commit the crime to save them?

Perhaps I'm getting off-topic. Prevention is almost always better than cure.

[AgentX]

There are things that you have to do and things you don't. Stealing food (when you have none) to feed your children is probably OK in my book -having 'relations' with a 14year old is not. Killing a man who threatens your safety in your home or whatever is probably OK - but shooting him for fun is not. It also raises other interesting questions - eg. if someone was intending on killing your whole family if you didn't steal something for them would you commit the crime to save them?
I think we both agree that our actions, however moral or immoral they may seem from a distance, depend entirely on the way we perceive and interpret the binding of our understanding of civil behavior with the immediate situational impact.

In relevance of the aforementioned arguments, I shall reiterate the naivete of the harsh charges against that stupid girl, who would benefit more from a mild slap on the wrist.

[Hollis]

In relevance of the aforementioned arguments, I shall reiterate the naivete of the harsh charges against that stupid girl, who would benefit more from a mild slap on the wrist.


Maybe something the parents should handle and not society.

[wagon]

I think we both agree that our actions, however moral or immoral they may seem from a distance, depend entirely on the way we perceive and interpret the binding of our understanding of civil behavior with the immediate situational impact.

In relevance of the aforementioned arguments, I shall reiterate the naivete of the harsh charges against that stupid girl, who would benefit more from a mild slap on the wrist.

x2 If she is given anything more than a 'slap on the wrist' she will come out of her 'punishment' a lot worse. She is only 14 - she should be given the chance to make bigger and better mistakes.

[eskachig]

I see your point. Without 'biblical' laws what system of 'laws' would we have arrived at? Would it be OK to steal, kill, etc.? An examination of the 613 'Mitzvot' reveala many laws regarding diet, ******ity and even menstruation that most of us would ignore and find rather arcaic in their intent.Legal systems don't have to be religious at all - even the very first written code of laws - Hammurabi's code, is completely secular, even if he boosted his stature with a 'mandate of heaven' style perception. Humans create laws because it's clear that living without them is harder, there is nothing religious about it at all. Nobody wants to live in a state where anyone can kill you at will, so we mostly don't.

And this case is ridiculous. Child ****ography laws were created to prevent minors from exploitation - how is charging this girl protect her?

[eskachig]

Maybe something the parents should handle and not society.Agree 100%, the state has no business getting involved in a stupid teenage mistake that doesn't hurt anyone.

[Laconian]

Understand that the punishment mentioned is the range of punishment if found guilty. For starters there will have to be a hearing to try her as an adult, not a minor. Then there will be some discussions of plea agreements, possibly a trial, examination by probation/parole and analysis by a judge before she is sentenced to anything.

Are her parents to blame here? Maybe maybe not. Maybe they taught her right, maybe they didn't. I have two kids: a girl 16 and a boy 8. I have brought them up in line with what could be considered a conservative, morally based lifestyle. They know right from wrong. Do they disobey? Yup. Do they get punished when caught? Yup. Do they then find another way to disobey? Yup. They're kids. They do stuff that leaves me dumbfounded and I think I am failing as a parent. And then I talk to other parents and I realize that I'm more strict than some, less so than others and no mater what, the kids all do some of the same stupid stuff. At 14, you can limit a kid's actions and exposure to certain things, but they can find ways around any rule/limitation you set on them. You can't watch your kids 24-hours a day. Good and bad kids do it all the time.

Do we outlaw or condemn certain behavior, ****** or otherwise? Yes. Agent X brought up 2 points: the first about 14 yr old's having ***. That is morally wrong. Although, their bodies are prepared for ***, they mentally and emotionally are not. They can not deal effectively with the repercussions of the action on their own, whether it is emotional or physical damage. Don't give me the argument that some 14-yr old somewhere may just have the **** together enough to handle a ****** relationship, because it is a crap argument - right up there with "I drive better after smoking a doob than I do sober" but that's a different topic. The second was an apparent non-limit on ****** conduct which may be viewed as perverse (bestiality, incest, etc). Again these are morally wrong because they are abusive. Consensual incest also should not be tolerated because in the very real chance that a resulting offspring would be less than healthy. We have lost the ability or the capacity to tell people what they do is wrong, that it's all relative or a matter of perspective. Bullsh!t. There is right and wrong.

This kid is a twit. A typical attention-starved kid doing something to say, "Look at me, I'm so special or cool or hip or mature." Or whatever. She should be held accountable. In a legal sense, she used a public communications system (internet) to send pictures of a ****** nature of a minor. The pictures were sent with the intention of causing a ****** reaction or for the ****** gratification of another. That is Child **** by definition. What remains now is how they will set an example or set punishment.

[SBL]

^Hear hear.

[little icebear]

Child ****ography laws were instituted to protect minors from predators. Not to punish minors for doing something stupid.


Maybe something the parents should handle and not society.

Spot on!

Same thing with cases in which a 17yo is charged for banging his 15yo girlfriend... utterly retarded.
Those laws have been created to protect kids from perverted adults - not to punish stupid teenagers for being stupid teenagers.
Their parents are supposed to do that.

[wagon]

Understand that the punishment mentioned is the range of punishment if found guilty. For starters there will have to be a hearing to try her as an adult, not a minor. Then there will be some discussions of plea agreements, possibly a trial, examination by probation/parole and analysis by a judge before she is sentenced to anything.

I feel any sort of legal (ie custodial/recorded conviction) punishment is too much in this case. What about a stern lecture from a magistrate and some councelling?


Do we outlaw or condemn certain behavior, ****** or otherwise? Yes. Agent X brought up 2 points: the first about 14 yr old's having ***. That is morally wrong. Although, their bodies are prepared for ***, they mentally and emotionally are not. They can not deal effectively with the repercussions of the action on their own, whether it is emotional or physical damage. Don't give me the argument that some 14-yr old somewhere may just have the **** together enough to handle a ****** relationship, because it is a crap argument - right up there with "I drive better after smoking a doob than I do sober" but that's a different topic. The second was an apparent non-limit on ****** conduct which may be viewed as perverse (bestiality, incest, etc). Again these are morally wrong because they are abusive. Consensual incest also should not be tolerated because in the very real chance that a resulting offspring would be less than healthy. We have lost the ability or the capacity to tell people what they do is wrong, that it's all relative or a matter of perspective. Bullsh!t. There is right and wrong.

There is right and wrong - defined right and wrong. But there are 'grey' areas where much debate exists. Like I said in a previous post, it is wrong to kill, but if you kill to protect your family (or country?) that is 'less wrong' than the consequences if you let it go the other way. Our morals and sense of right and wrong are changed, to some degree, by our ethnicity, our upbringing, religion, etc. What we see as right or wrong may be seen as opposite by others. What makes our view correct?

[Laconian]

Same thing with cases in which a 17yo is charged for banging his 15yo girlfriend... utterly retarded.
Those laws have been created to protect kids from perverted adults - not to punish stupid teenagers for being stupid teenagers.
Their parents are supposed to do that.

Really, what makes you think a 17 isn't taking advantage of a younger girl? Just because they are closer in age? Sorry, messing with underage is wrong. When some 17-yr old is sniffing around your daughter, you let me know.

[Zeev]

Things like that make me not wanting to have a daughter....

Maybe strange, but I hope that I'll have a daughter, there's less problems than with boys at teenage, and in general, girls prefer their fathers to their mothers, so she will bother her mother and I'll stay quiet.. :)

[California Joe]

Spot on!

Same thing with cases in which a 17yo is charged for banging his 15yo girlfriend... utterly retarded.
Those laws have been created to protect kids from perverted adults - not to punish stupid teenagers for being stupid teenagers.
Their parents are supposed to do that.

Around my daughter that warrants an unmarked grave.

Teenagers are borderline retarded. Period.

[little icebear]

Just because they are closer in age?

Exactly.

In my book there is a difference between two horny teenagers and one teenager and a perverted adult who takes advantage of a kid.


Around my daughter that warrants an unmarked grave.


Well, that´s another story and perfectly natural as well. ;)

[wagon]

Really, what makes you think a 17 isn't taking advantage of a younger girl? Just because they are closer in age? Sorry, messing with underage is wrong. When some 17-yr old is sniffing around your daughter, you let me know.

I agree 100%. Two years can be a lot in the life of a teenager.

[Izmirlian]

I think the turning point for American girls was right around the time Britney Spears came out with 'Oops I did it Again". Before then it seemed like most teenage girls still had self-respect. But after that it's like they all turned into complete whores. And at the time I remember thinking Yeah this is Great, but now as the years rolled by, it just got sadder and sadder.

[Laconian]

I feel any sort of legal (ie custodial/recorded conviction) punishment is too much in this case. What about a stern lecture from a magistrate and some councelling?

That may well be, but to say no law was broken is just not the case. Does it warrant prosecution? I don't know, I haven't read all the facts of the case. Certainly she can receive a suspended sentence and when she turns 18, barring any other like conduct have the record sealed or expunged. Personally, I like the idea of hanging something over someone's head so they understand the severity of their actions. Then when she has reached maturity (legally) she has a clean slate.


There is right and wrong - defined right and wrong. But there are 'grey' areas where much debate exists. Like I said in a previous post, it is wrong to kill, but if you kill to protect your family (or country?) that is 'less wrong' than the consequences if you let it go the other way. Our morals and sense of right and wrong are changed, to some degree, by our ethnicity, our upbringing, religion, etc. What we see as right or wrong may be seen as opposite by others. What makes our view correct?

What I believe is that things are black & white (with some gray). If I steal to feed my family, the stealing is still wrong, but I use my starving family as mitigation or justification for it and am ready to take the punishment for it. I believe murder is wrong. I believe murder is separate from killing. If I hunt and animal to feed my family and kill it, there is no crime nor is it wrong, the same is true with self-defense (or defense of others) in cases where you are threatened with deadly force or serious physical injury and in the case of combat. Murder is the unsanctioned or illegal taking of life.

Certainly the accepted standards of the society in which we live or were brought up effect how we view. What makes that view correct? I guess you have to go to the societal standard, the Supreme Court used in a case. Basically, it might be okay to open an adult book store in an area of town where, the local don't care or it is isolated and societal impact (effects, property values, etc) is minimal as opposed to opening one next to a pre-school or a neighborhood.

[California Joe]

I think the turning point for American girls was right around the time Britney Spears came out with 'Oops I did it Again". Before then it seemed like most teenage girls still had self-respect. But after that it's like they all turned into complete whores. And at the time I remember thinking Yeah this is Great, but now as the years rolled by, it just got sadder and sadder.

Might want to dial it back on the gross generalizations there champ. Those of us with teenaged daughters may want to ban you.

[JB1628]

Really, what makes you think a 17 isn't taking advantage of a younger girl? Just because they are closer in age? Sorry, messing with underage is wrong. When some 17-yr old is sniffing around your daughter, you let me know.
That girl is 15 for Christ sake. She's not some 12 year old little girl I'm sure she can make that type of decision for herself. I mean you'll get mad at a 17 year old for dating a 15 year old? That's got to be the stupidest **** I've heard all day, I mean both of them probably go to the same high school.

It's only a 2 year difference, you are simply too overprotective. I really feel sorry for your daughter, hell I hope she's secretly dating a 17 year old right now.


Back to topic, she's a 14 year old girl! I mean what the hell, what kind of person wants to give a 14 year old girl 17 years for a small mistake, yes she was dumb for doing that. But she doesn't need to be convicted and labeled a *** offender and lose 17 years of her young life for something this stupid. She probably didn't even know she could get charged for this, seriously just let her go home and let the parents take care of this. She doesn't need her life ruined for some stupid ****ing **** like this.

[Laconian]

In my book there is a difference between two horny teenagers and one teenager and a perverted adult who takes advantage of a kid.


I disagree, there is a lot of "using" that goes on in the game of teenage ***. It goes both ways and it's all wrong. Guys pressure girls, girls pressure guys and no real good comes from it. The emotional damage can be great and it usually is. Just because you want to do something and can (physically), doesn't mean you should.

[Izmirlian]

Might want to dial it back on the gross generalizations there champ. Those of us with teenaged daughters may want to ban you.

I apologize to anyone with teenaged daughters. I was just generalizing obviously. There are plenty of self-respecting American girls and daughters, I was talking about the other ones.

[JB1628]

I disagree, there is a lot of "using" that goes on in the game of teenage ***. It goes both ways and it's all wrong. Guys pressure girls, girls pressure guys and no real good comes from it. The emotional damage can be great and it usually is. Just because you want to do something and can (physically), doesn't mean you should.
What are we in the '50s, face it in today's world *** just isn't as big of a deal as it was. There are plenty of teenagers that have *** before they hit 18 hell most of them do it before 17 and most of them don't feel bad after it.

I'm pretty sure you know nothing of the teenagers of today because they usually don't have emotional damage for something like that anymore. Hell the feel good about it, they brag about it, times have changed and I think you have failed to realize that.

[California Joe]

You're walking a thin line, douche.

[Laconian]

Dating is different than having *** and ****** relations. Did you see anything in my post that said they couldn't date? And thanks for the well wishes.

[Hollis]

What are we in the '50s, face it in today's world *** just isn't as big of a deal as it was. There are plenty of teenagers that have *** before they hit 18 hell most of them do it before 17 and most of them don't feel bad after it.

I'm pretty sure you know nothing of the teenagers of today because they usually don't have emotional damage for something like that anymore. Hell the feel good about it, they brag about it, times have changed and I think you have failed to realize that.


Next time don't post............... your a idiot.

and your stay here may become very short.

[California Joe]

What are we in the '50s, face it in today's world *** just isn't as big of a deal as it was. There are plenty of teenagers that have *** before they hit 18 hell most of them do it before 17 and most of them don't feel bad after it.

I'm pretty sure you know nothing of the teenagers of today because they usually don't have emotional damage for something like that anymore. Hell the feel good about it, they brag about it, times have changed and I think you have failed to realize that.

I'm pretty sure if I saw you anywhere near my daughter I'd choke the sh*t out of you on the spot.

[JB1628]

Next time don't post............... your a idiot.

and your stay here may become very short.

Well excuse me for speaking the truth. I'll post about this until I get banned because what I said is 100% truth. *** simply is not as big of a deal as it was 10 or 20 years ago.

Everything I said is true teens are having ***, they brag about it, and most of them don't have emotional damage over it.

[Laconian]

What are we in the '50s, face it in today's world *** just isn't as big of a deal as it was. There are plenty of teenagers that have *** before they hit 18 hell most of them do it before 17 and most of them don't feel bad after it.
Maybe that's part of the problem...Just my observation. We've demoted it to an almost animalistic rutting, instead of what IMO it should be.


I'm pretty sure you know nothing of the teenagers of today because they usually don't have emotional damage for something like that anymore. Hell the feel good about it, they brag about it, times have changed and I think you have failed to realize that.

I know it all too well.

[Izmirlian]

Next time don't post............... your a idiot.

and your stay here may become very short.


What is so wrong with what he said. He didn't insult anyone, he just said his piece on teen ***.

[little icebear]

I disagree, there is a lot of "using" that goes on in the game of teenage ***. It goes both ways and it's all wrong. Guys pressure girls, girls pressure guys and no real good comes from it. The emotional damage can be great and it usually is. Just because you want to do something and can (physically), doesn't mean you should.

I don´t want to argue with you, Laconian.

There are laws that need to be followed. Where you come from, law says it´s abbuse, in my country, it isn´t.
You´re a cop, I´m not - you pobably got a daughter and I don´t. It´s logical that our POVs don´t match.
But when I think about my youth (keep in mind I´m 20 years younger than you) - pretty much nothing extraordinary, that teenage girls would date boys that where 1 or 2, sometimes even 3 years older.
Frankly I doubt that it is so much different in the US. Kids might be more secretive about it...

[JB1628]

Maybe that's part of the problem...Just my observation. We've demoted it to an almost animalistic rutting, instead of what IMO it should be.



I know it all too well.

Maybe your right, thanks for staying calm about my comments unlike some other users here who want to get mad and stay in denial over what's the truth in today's society.

[wagon]

What are we in the '50s, face it in today's world *** just isn't as big of a deal as it was. There are plenty of teenagers that have *** before they hit 18 hell most of them do it before 17 and most of them don't feel bad after it.

I'm pretty sure you know nothing of the teenagers of today because they usually don't have emotional damage for something like that anymore. Hell the feel good about it, they brag about it, times have changed and I think you have failed to realize that.

So at what point should the law allow children to have ***? 10?12?13?

Like Laconian said, just because you can doesn't mean you should. Just because my car can do 200km/h doesn't mean I should.

Kids are still kids. We shouldn't mandate faster growing up - things are f**ked up enough already.
Keep that chipper warm, CJ. :)

[Hollis]

Maybe your right, thanks for staying calm about my comments unlike some other users here who want to get mad and stay in denial over what's the truth in today's society.


Maybe grow up, we do not do diapering services here. If you can not take a clue, then this may not be the forum for you.

[Hollis]

I don´t want to argue with you, Laconian.

There are laws that need to be followed. Where you come from, law says it´s abbuse, in my country, it isn´t.
You´re a cop, I´m not - you pobably got a daughter and I don´t. It´s logical that our POVs don´t match.
But when I think about my youth (keep in mind I´m 20 years younger than you) - pretty much nothing extraordinary, that teenage girls would date boys that where 1 or 2, sometimes even 3 years older.
Frankly I doubt that it is so much different in the US. Kids might be more secretive about it...


You don't have to agree, may be look up teenage suicide issues. Most kids are OK and make it through this period with little problems. Also Kid can be very brutal to each other.

I think by now, we can all say, the max punishment seems harsh. Go back to Laconian's post, and he mentions more on this topic.

Before Myspace, there where video camera, before video cameras, there where polaroids. This is nothing new, just a new venue.

[Kap]

This is stupid. I didn't know law is so ****ed in the states.


She shouldn't be charged with anything. They were pictures of herself.


Yeah, pictures of herself, and then some 18+ retard comes along, and saves them on their harddrive for fap material later on, and automatically gets "possession of child ****ography"

(Don't even think I spelled that right) :oops:

[Bia]

Before then it seemed like most teenage girls still had self-respect. But after that it's like they all turned into complete whores.I see you're online reading despite the suspension...
MOST teen girls dont act this way... "all" is a mighty strong word. The tiny percentage of girls that do act this way get seen and the millions of girls that live their lives normally dont make the headline.

Learn to sift out the BS in life.... and with your words.

:P

[Seiran]

Yeah, pictures of herself, and then some 18+ retard comes along, and saves them on their harddrive for fap material later on, and automatically gets "possession of child ****ography"

(Don't even think I spelled that right) :oops:

Spelled it perfectly Kap.

[BAF]

I'm pretty sure if I saw you anywhere near my daughter I'd choke the sh*t out of you on the spot.


no disrespect sir, but you seem like the type to choke the **** out of every boy/man that comes near your daughter :p

[little icebear]

He´s her father - that´s his job. What else should he do?

[Hot Lips]

That girl is 15 for Christ sake. She's not some 12 year old little girl I'm sure she can make that type of decision for herself.

Teenagers like to think they can make those types of decisions for themselves. By the time they realize they aren't prepared for the consequences it's usually too late.


What are we in the '50s, face it in today's world *** just isn't as big of a deal as it was. There are plenty of teenagers that have *** before they hit 18 hell most of them do it before 17 and most of them don't feel bad after it.

I'm pretty sure you know nothing of the teenagers of today because they usually don't have emotional damage for something like that anymore. Hell the feel good about it, they brag about it, times have changed and I think you have failed to realize that.

I'd place bets on Laconian, CJ, Hollis, and many many others knowing a whole heck of a lot more about teenagers than you think you do from your short life experience and narrow perspective.

Sure, teenagers are more promiscuous than in the past, but then again more teenagers get pregnant, commit suicide, have STDs, take prescription medication for anxiety, depression, etc and are in therapy today than in the 50's. Because no matter how many decades pass, teenagers always feel in control and invincible until faced with the consequences for their actions.


Well excuse me for speaking the truth. I'll post about this until I get banned because what I said is 100% truth. *** simply is not as big of a deal as it was 10 or 20 years ago.

Well Mr. 100% few things in life are absolute which reinforces that you are simply talking out of your ass.

Laconian assessed the situation accurately. ****** predators come in a variety of ages, including 17. 1950 or 2009, teenage girls in general continue to be ill equipped emotionally to deal with the repercussions of ****** relations whether the boy is 17 or older. No one wants to ruin a young girls life, but services like MySpace need a wake up call and she has put herself in a position to be the vehicle by which that message is sent. And hopefully, it's a wake up call for other girls.

That's why Lexi got a pass on MP.net a few years back. Teenage girls and boys who think they are mature because they feel adult urges can be their own worst enemy and not even realize it.

[domokun]

Does not compute... underage pedophile. Little common sense should be used by prosecutor, she is still a kid... not some pedo spreading pedo ****.

[Hot Lips]

Does not compute... underage pedophile. Little common sense should be used by prosecutor, she is still a kid... not some pedo spreading pedo ****.

Perhaps it "doesn't compute", because she's not accused of being a pedophile. :| She's accused of uploading child ****ography to the Internet. Regardless of her age or ****** preferences, that is what she did.

She'll get a slap on the wrist, but the process will make MySpace, parents, and hopefully other teens go about things more responsibly.

[PeterRJG]

Understand that the punishment mentioned is the range of punishment if found guilty. For starters there will have to be a hearing to try her as an adult, not a minor.

Sorry to cherry pick your comments Lac, but doesn't the US and its states have hard and fast rules on who is a minor under law? I take it that it's a judge/magistrate discretion thing then?

[Pappy]

Understand that the punishment mentioned is the range of punishment if found guilty. For starters there will have to be a hearing to try her as an adult, not a minor....

Here's the real kicker. If she's tried as an adult, is it still child ****? I would think the very nature of the pictures being considered **** images of a minor means that she would have to be tried as a minor ;)

[Pappy]

Sorry to cherry pick your comments Lac, but doesn't the US and its states have hard and fast rules on who is a minor under law? I take it that it's a judge/magistrate discretion thing then?

In certain cases, a judge can choose to have someone under 18 years tried as an adult. Usually this is reserved for a teenager who commits murder, arson, rape, or other serious crimes. I'm sure Laconian can contribute more to the process involved in having a minor tried as an adult.

[acosta]

Wow, so MYSPACE is not in anyway be blamed. What is it? Money machine? 14 year-old is arrested, MYS****got prison break, superstar born.

[futurepilot2004]

Wow, so MYSPACE is not in anyway be blamed. What is it? Money machine? 14 year-old is arrested, MYS****got prison break, superstar born.

Myspace has over 100 million profiles on it. How can it stop an idiot like this girl? stop everyone from uploading pictures?

[click]

Myspace has over 100 million profiles on it. How can it stop an idiot like this girl? stop everyone from uploading pictures?

Here is your solution. Myspace is going to start to dominate the world.

[Hot Lips]

Myspace has over 100 million profiles on it. How can it stop an idiot like this girl? stop everyone from uploading pictures?

Create more jobs to monitor the system.
Come up with a way verify the age of the user during registration and pay more attention to minors.
Implement stricter policies and actually enforce them.
Restrict uploading privileges for new users on a probationary basis.

There are lots of things they could try to do, but aren't because they'd have to dip into their profits.

[Hollis]

There are lots of things they could try to do, but aren't because they'd have to dip into their profits.


Yep that about says it all. Unless there is way to go after myspace.

[Bia]

I am proud to say I have no Myspace nor do I go to them to see others... facebook either.
All I ever remember when first seeing it was kids.... and adults acting worse than children.

I've posted my share of bikini or short shorts images online over the years...but nothing I regret. Never got nekkid nor will I.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Meh just say it's art and she's off the hook. :)

Seriously.

Is it just me or are teenagers becoming increasingly stupid?

This is a pickle. Not only has she screwed her life up but I bet you any money in the world this will result in a crackdown on any photo media involving kids. Which really sucks.

Also how long before the next teenager has to "go one better"

[AmericanAirman]

Meh just say it's art and she's off the hook. :)

Seriously.

Is it just me or are teenagers becoming increasingly stupid?

This is a pickle. Not only has she screwed her life up but I bet you any money in the world this will result in a crackdown on any photo media involving kids. Which really sucks.

Also how long before the next teenager has to "go one better"

From my standpoint, it seems that teenage stupidity has just become more publicized. Well, that is, I've heard of a lot of stupid stuff so when it gets reported it's no big deal to me.

Also, someone made the comment earlier about the 17yr boy old and 15yr girl and how that's fine. It might be, however, the complex social world known as "high school" complicates the situation a bunch. The girl could want the guy to boost her own status, same with the guy and the girl. Personally, I feel that the older person is taking advantage of the other; but I've always had that opinion. I guess it's changing a bit as I get older, now I see a 1yr difference as not being that bad. But when they're that young it is.

And please, end the hasty generalizations of teenagers. We're all different, and especially the girls and how they think/deal with these emotions and their bodies. Yeah, there are d-bags out there - but that's not all of us; morals do remain! And stop instigating the fathers here!

[seraosha]

In my opinion, etiquette needs to catch up to technology...look at cell phone use as an example. Folks will yell into their phone then get violent when people around them ask them to keep it down...and we all see it on the roads, what happened to the "Excuse me, I have to take this", and leave the immediate area to talk on the phone? Nah, jackasses will stand in line for a movie yacking on their phone like they have some mystical cone of silence around them, and are generally clueless.

And say what you want about teens...they are inexperienced, inept, hormone soaked and have little to no impulse control...then throw them a phone with a camera, text, internet, and god knows what else enabled on them...and expect them to make adult decisions? At 14?

Jailbait pics are overflowing on "teh internetz"...I and my teenager did a little surfing together and within 2 clicks we were seeing what teenage boyfriends had posted after talking their girlfriends into taking **** pictures, not to mention the idiots taking pics of themselves. She made all the right noises about being shocked and disgusted, but I'm a Dad, not a moron...then the truth about friends and aquaintances started coming out. She wasn't about to incriminate herself and lose the phone, but hopefully the point was made...

The internet is forever

Parents need to step up and talk to their kids, it's really as simple as that.
Take the damn phone away if it's misused, likewise the internet, land line, TV...jeebus the list is endless when it comes to coercing your teen to do the right thing. No one expects them to be perfect 100% of the time, but WTF were that little girls parents thinking when they raised her to think that taking **** opictures and sending them to boys was acceptible behavior? And then be dumb enough to get caught!

[GtodeO]

wtf if I posted a picutre of me naked when I was 14 I probably get 5-10 or until I turn 18 then probation thats messed up only cause she is a girl, she should get the punishment like anyone else but if you're a girl and in America you're pardon what happend to the equality? what happend to the 19th amendment? I ask you?

[seraosha]

wtf if I posted a picutre of me naked when I was 14 I probably get 5-10 or until I turn 18 then probation thats messed up only cause she is a girl, she should get the punishment like anyone else but if you're a girl and in America you're pardon what happend to the equality? what happend to the 19th amendment? I ask you?

What in the blue hell are you trying to say?

[Bia]

wtf if I posted a picutre of me naked when I was 14 I probably get 5-10 or until I turn 18 then probation thats messed up only cause she is a girl, she should get the punishment like anyone else but if you're a girl and in America you're pardon what happend to the equality? what happend to the 19th amendment? I ask you?Pretty women get away with more... younger fems... do also.

A rare double standard built into humans brains.

Accept it :P

[TheKiwi]

Pretty women get away with more... younger fems... do also.

A rare double standard built into humans brains.

Accept it :P

Voice of experience???

[deagle]

the girl (account user)
her parents (clueless to her questionable actions?)
myspace (any moderators to screen, verify content ?)

all failed on social responsibiity.

there are sickos out there, and when enticed, will do their best to get information to cause harm.

[Kippari]

What? That's f***'d up. 17 years in jail because you posted topless pics of yourself? That's sick! The girl should just have a talk with her parents, not prosecution by the court. That's about the same as putting someone to a death row after a failed suicide attempt.:)

[cmabone]

The girl is dumb, but the justice system is also messed up.

Putting her in jail is ruining her life.

[Eztyga]

Before Myspace, there where video camera, before video cameras, there where polaroids. This is nothing new, just a new venue.

Yup, instant world fame, or stupidity...

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Wow, so MYSPACE is not in anyway be blamed. What is it? Money machine? 14 year-old is arrested, MYS****got prison break, superstar born.

She violated the terms of service that she agreed to as a condition of joining Myspace. They do their best to close down the profiles in a hurry but you do have to understand that they've got millions of profiles and mountains of complaints pouring in every second.

As far as parenting goes - we've always viewed the net as if it was a library with every book in the world in it - from Encyclopedia Britannica to Hustler. As such, there are parental controls on our PCs tied to the login profiles that the kids use. IMO any parent who leaves kids unattended in front of a wide-open net connection is absolutely nuts.

We've made their friends parents aware of what our policies are and what we expect when our kids are over their houses. I understand that it's a kid's sacred duty to break free of the oppressive rule of their parents. If the little darlings do it on their friends PC, then I blame them, and their friends, and their friends parents. We've already gone through lengthy groundings, lost friends, and tense phone calls, believe me. If they manage to do it from home, I'll blame them and get 'em set up over at DeVry as IT instructors because they'd have to posses some mad PC skills.

[Hando]

I'm curious to know how much of a hand the boyfriend had in all this. After all, she states that she took the pics for him, so possibly he asked/begged/cajoled her to do so.

From my observations it seems that there is a growing culture of "Pics or it didn't happen" amongst young people, especially young men.

[tea drinker]

What? That's f***'d up. 17 years in jail because you posted topless pics of yourself? That's sick! The girl should just have a talk with her parents, not prosecution by the court. That's about the same as putting someone to a death row after a failed suicide attempt.:)
Exactly - she shuld have all her online accounts pulled, no internetz for a while, grounded etc.
She should be punished as a child. Poor girl has a childs brain, why have a massive punishment her for making a stupid mistake?
The proliferation of camera phones, internet lifestyle etc, it's not her fault this exists, or even that that the boundaries for behaviour are blurred. But she should be accountable for her behaviour nonetheless.

I wouldn't punish the parents, but I would make them compulsorily attend a parenting course....... theyr'e gonna need it with this one!

[California Joe]

Jesus, will everyone stop screaming about 17 years in jail. She won't do any jail time, they're making a point.

[mudbunny]

*in Lloyd Bridges voice*
Ah, what it's like to be 14...................................and a woman!!!!!