Turkey and the HK33

[HCV]

Apparently the Turkish military hasn't been very happy with the HK33 series they adopted in 1999. Of an originally planned 500,000 (!), they had produced only 83,000 in 2008, and apparently wanted to stop then. Would someone know

1. Whether they actually DID stop in 2008, after they had received 83,000, or if MKE continue to make the weapon for Turkish forces (Jandarma or whatever)?
2. What their actual beef with the HK33 as made by MKE was -- reliability? Lack of rails for gadgets? Effectiveness as compared to their old 7.62x51mm rifles? Lack of coolness factor? Or what?
3. What they want to replace it with -- I read about the Mehmetcik-1. Is that going to be introduced on a large scale? In 5.56x45mm or 7.62x51mm?

Many thanks!

Cheers

HANS

[kerim]

I have heard that the reason why they stopped producing the hk33 was because of the mehmetcik-1. the mehmetcik-1 will replace the g3 by 2010 and will be in 2 versions: 5.56 and 7.62

[Ulytau]

Turkiye already stopped producing Hk-33 cause army dont wanted that gonna do Mehmetcik - 1 ''Looking like HK-417 '' and new weapon gonna be 7.62 too.

Also MKEK produced T-50 with using Hk-33 background too but army wants totally changed weapon for guerilla and regular warfare.

A pic of the T-50

http://www2.ssm.gov.tr/katalog2007/data/24507/images/Clipboard03.jpg


And new gun;

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/cabatli_53/tara0001.jpg

[lewnidas]

mechmetik is hk-416& 417!

[4X4Driver]

Apparently the Turkish military hasn't been very happy with the HK33 series they adopted in 1999. Of an originally planned 500,000 (!), they had produced only 83,000 in 2008, and apparently wanted to stop then. Would someone know

1. Whether they actually DID stop in 2008, after they had received 83,000, or if MKE continue to make the weapon for Turkish forces (Jandarma or whatever)?
2. What their actual beef with the HK33 as made by MKE was -- reliability? Lack of rails for gadgets? Effectiveness as compared to their old 7.62x51mm rifles? Lack of coolness factor? Or what?
3. What they want to replace it with -- I read about the Mehmetcik-1. Is that going to be introduced on a large scale? In 5.56x45mm or 7.62x51mm?


Many thanks!

Cheers

HANS

1. It was stopped for good.

2. I remember reading somewhere that it was the caliber issue.

3. Plan is to replace it with Mehmetcik-1 in 7.62x51mm.

Of course these are what I've read about it in the media...