Best Long Range Scope For A Savage .300 Win Mag

[Deus Proeliator]

I need some opinions from you guys. What would you suggest is the best long range scope for the money 550.00 at most i want to spend? I have always went with the nikon Buckmasters series for most all my hunting rifles. But i am looking to upgrade my scope on my Savage Heavy Barrel .300 Win Mag Model 110. So since i have not been in the market for a long range scope in a while i am looking for some advice as i am only up to date with optics like ACOG's EoTech's and Amipoints so your advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks
J

[Burntrubber87]

Well..Leupold Mark IV is always a good series..or Nikon..start there. Depends a lot on what you want to use the rifle for.

[Alfacentori]

Well..Leupold Mark IV is always a good series..or Nikon..start there. Depends a lot on what you want to use the rifle for.

Good advice, depends on what you want to use it for (i.e Hunting/Bench), how much you want to pay, what finish you prefer on your optics.

Leupold is very good, also Bushnell, some of the Tasco Super Sniper Series scopes aren't bad either if they still make them.

Or if you want to spend big money consider Night Force or Kahles

Alfa

[gaijinsamurai]

I've always had really good experiences with Leupold and Redfield scopes. Another good maker, which i haven't used but hear only positive about, is Burris.

[Soldat_Américain]

Good advice, depends on what you want to use it for (i.e Hunting/Bench), how much you want to pay, what finish you prefer on your optics.


Killing...not much, don't have much.

[DeltaWhisky58]

I you really want the best accuracy, reliability, durability etc., you have to buy the best optics - Schmidt und Bender.

Very expensive but undoubtedly the best for the purpose. I currently own three of their scopes and have previously owned two others, I have also owned/own Zeiss and Swarovski which are very good, but IMO S&B are the best and will last a lifetime.

[Irons]

I only have one real rifle scope, and I just got it, but it's a Burris 2-7x35mm. I have it mounted on an AR to serve as a Coyote/Varmint Rifle, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't hold up on a .300Win. It retails for about 165 bucks. (I got mine new from a friend for 100, but I would have payed full price if he hadn't offered it to me at a discount, it's well worth the money) I am very pleased with it in every way. I have heard it said to me by several people, online, and in real life, that Burris is just as good, and sometimes superior, many "higher end" scopes, but at half the price. If you want to impress somebody, go with whatever, but if you want to get your needs fulfilled without getting chumped, go Burris. That's what I was told, and that's what I've done so far. I have no complaints what-so-ever thus-far.

Just keep in mind, it takes far less than most people think it does these days to put a bullet on target. When they talk about "well XYZ makes it easier" what they really mean is "I bought one, and my buddies bought one, and it makes it slightly easier, but it's really not that huge of an improvement, but if you don't get one then you're either not part of the crowd, or you're going to make us feel like A-holes." You probably don't actually even NEED a scope if you are honest with yourself. And if you do, you don't need an expensive NINJA one. Most of that stuff is just hype anyway. People are blow-hards these days. They never got over high-school.

[Lazuris]

You probably don't actually even NEED a scope if you are honest with yourself. And if you do, you don't need an expensive NINJA one. Most of that stuff is just hype anyway. People are blow-hards these days. They never got over high-school.

Being that there are no sights on his rifle no amount of honesty will get him on target.

The stuff in the airsoft forum is hype, proper equipment that performs as advertised is not hype.

To the OP what do you plan to do long range. The 110FP is the "police" version as such i'm assuming you are looking to punch paper and ring steel. The 300WM can deliver accurate shots well out to 1300yds so is this the range you are looking at?.
"Long range" shooting requires long range glass which costs more than standard hunting glass. Also the recoil of the 300wm will eat poorly made scopes versus a scope that is designed to withstand more abuse.

Check out this site as a good starting place for equipment and recomendations.
http://demigodllc.com/articles/practical-long-range-rifle-shooting-optics/

My advise is buy more glass than you think you'll need. At a minimum you should be looking at the Mk 4's. They are the best bang for the buck and have a great warranty. Don't forget to buy high quality rings and a scope base with X MOA built in it.

[Burntrubber87]

I only have one real rifle scope, and I just got it, but it's a Burris 2-7x35mm. I have it mounted on an AR to serve as a Coyote/Varmint Rifle, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't hold up on a .300Win. It retails for about 165 bucks. (I got mine new from a friend for 100, but I would have payed full price if he hadn't offered it to me at a discount, it's well worth the money) I am very pleased with it in every way. I have heard it said to me by several people, online, and in real life, that Burris is just as good, and sometimes superior, many "higher end" scopes, but at half the price. If you want to impress somebody, go with whatever, but if you want to get your needs fulfilled without getting chumped, go Burris. That's what I was told, and that's what I've done so far. I have no complaints what-so-ever thus-far.

Just keep in mind, it takes far less than most people think it does these days to put a bullet on target. When they talk about "well XYZ makes it easier" what they really mean is "I bought one, and my buddies bought one, and it makes it slightly easier, but it's really not that huge of an improvement, but if you don't get one then you're either not part of the crowd, or you're going to make us feel like A-holes." You probably don't actually even NEED a scope if you are honest with yourself. And if you do, you don't need an expensive NINJA one. Most of that stuff is just hype anyway. People are blow-hards these days. They never got over high-school.
If you can't tell the difference in your shooting using open sights as compared to a scope you're definently doing something wrong. But..sounds to me like you're trying to justify buying a cheap scope. nothing wrong with buying a cheap scope for a light recoil rifle, but like lazuris said, as the recoil goes up, so does the stress on the scope and mounts, I bought a "cheap"($130) Bushnell shotgun scope for my Mossberg Mav88 rifled 12 ga, and had it sighted in within a few shots, kept shooting and around the 10-11th shot one of the crosshairs broke. now the scope is pretty much a $130 monocular. why put a $150 scope on a $800+ rifle? thats like putting a $15 ebay fart can on a brand new car. And you can get decent Nikons for $300 ish. the MK4's are alittle pricey around $5-600 but they are best deal. We aren't talking about buying the latest larue titanium bolt set for an AR, a quality scope on a hunting/target rifle can make or break the deal.

[Burntrubber87]

I somehow managed to double post and can't find the delete post button..

[Irons]

Because your eye is free, and there is no substitute for skill. I wonder how people got by without "optics" in the past, surely they didn't hit shinola without it. Oh God, 'er we go! :)

P.S. 130 bucks isn't cheap. Anything over a "bill" is back-breakingly expensive. I'm not top-drawer enough to think like you sir. You have me at a disadvantage. I'll still out-shoot your scope with just my eyes at realistic distances though. Then you can get mad, roll up your mat, and go home in a huff. I'll knock the dust off my boots, and have a beer, tell some jokes. I love it. ;)

[Burntrubber87]

Because your eye is free, and there is not substitute for skill. I wonder how people got by without "optics" in the past, surely they didn't hit shinola without it. Oh God, 'er we go! :)
You don't have to lecture me about iron sight shooting, i've done my share. I've also done my share of scoped shooting, and at the same distances I have and probably always will shoot better with a scope than with iron sights. In any sort of shooting that requires quick target acquisition its better to have open sights or no to low power optics. But for longer range(Like at a range or hunting) you want a scope, and a nice scope to get the most out of the rifle. I think its downright irresponsible to hunt long range without a scope, and chance hitting the animal in the leg or gut where it might not die immediately and painfully bleed out for a few days. And, when I say long-range..long-range for me is 300+yds. I'm not going to bs saying i can shoot this or that or out shoot you, but I will say this, i've put some real quality alone time at my local range and shooting is an art form that you no-one ever truly masters..maybe except Simo and Hathcock.

[Irons]

What are you planning on quick targeting? Beer Cans? 50gal. Drum lids with a spray paint dot in the center of it? Come on man, I'm not trying to sell NINJAGADIAN BS. I'm talking about what real people, REALLY do with their guns. I don't think he's taking a 300 Win to the sandbox for CQB, or half mile sniper shots.

[Burntrubber87]

What are you planning on quick targeting? Beer Cans? 50gal. Drum lids with a spray paint dot in the center of it? Come on man, I'm not trying to sell NINJAGADIAN BS. I'm talking about what real people, REALLY do with their guns. I don't think he's taking a 300 Win to the sandbox for CQB, or half mile sniper shots.
Have you ever been stalking or hunting in general? Animals move. And real people really do put quality scopes on their rifles..there is nothing wrong with that. you're making a $300-600 scope purchase sound like he's buying a $3000 nightvision scope with a red-dot attached. Whats the title of this post? you should probably think about that before spouting off about not even needing a scope when the gun doesn't even come with sights, or using a $100 wal-mart special.

[Irons]

I was taught, and have never target a game animal over roughly 200yrds. I also have never taken a shot on an animal that wasn't showing me his profile, and standing still. If he wants a scope, cool, but it's nothing a low-end Burris won't fix for him. They are toys. You don't break the bank on toys IMO. So far as Walmart, what of it? You hate me because I'm poor? Nice, real nice. I hope it feels good. Now I'm depressed.

[Burntrubber87]

I was taught, and have never target a game animal over roughly 200yrds. I also have never taken a shot on an animal that wasn't showing me his profile, and standing still. If he wants a scope, cool, but it's nothing a low-end Burris won't fix for him. They are toys. You don't break the bank on toys IMO. So far as Walmart, what of it? You hate me because I'm poor? Nice, real nice.
If that came out mean disregard it, I was just trying to make a point. And there is nothing wrong with wal-mart..just not the best place to find optics. I have too many hobbies and usually find myself scrounging change for gas money every week.

[Irons]

No, No, you did what you set-out to do. You have smoted me, and made me feel inadequate. Listen to this guy OP. He's RICH! He's BETTER THAN ME!

[Burntrubber87]

Well i'm sorry I hurt your feelings, sweetie.

[Irons]

Fine. I don't care. You're dead to me.

P.S. To anybody following along, my Barska got a crack in it, so everything I was talking about over it being a great buy was basically BS. Sorry. I'm still gonna use it though. I'm just using the every widening crack as a range finder. It's all good. Just remember, you can fix anything with some duct tape and a coat-hanger.

[SMGLee]

P.S. To anybody following along, my Barska got a crack in it, so everything I was talking about over it being a great buy was basically BS. Sorry. I'm still gonna use it though. I'm just using the every widening crack as a range finder. It's all good. Just remember, you can fix anything with some duct tape and a coat-hanger.

In a way, I hate to say I told you so.....


As far as a good scope for the rifle, I would suggest at least a good Burris...if not Nikon or move to a Leupold... depends on your budget.

[Irons]

In a way, I hate to say I told you so.....


As far as a good scope for the rifle, I would suggest at least a good Burris...if not Nikon or move to a Leupold... depends on your budget.

I bought my Burris on your recommendation Lee, just in case. The Barska was a freebie gift. I'm not out anything. You da' man! Thanks.

[remfleader]

"Best" long range scope...
There's others but you cant go wrong with the following:
Leupold (Mk 4)
NightForce
Schmidt & Bender
Unertyl
US Optics

Here's my GA Precision with NF glass...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66460&d=1233713980

[GHL]

I only have one real rifle scope, and I just got it, but it's a Burris 2-7x35mm. I have it mounted on an AR to serve as a Coyote/Varmint Rifle, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't hold up on a .300Win. It retails for about 165 bucks. (I got mine new from a friend for 100, but I would have payed full price if he hadn't offered it to me at a discount, it's well worth the money) I am very pleased with it in every way. I have heard it said to me by several people, online, and in real life, that Burris is just as good, and sometimes superior, many "higher end" scopes, but at half the price. If you want to impress somebody, go with whatever, but if you want to get your needs fulfilled without getting chumped, go Burris. That's what I was told, and that's what I've done so far. I have no complaints what-so-ever thus-far.

Just keep in mind, it takes far less than most people think it does these days to put a bullet on target. When they talk about "well XYZ makes it easier" what they really mean is "I bought one, and my buddies bought one, and it makes it slightly easier, but it's really not that huge of an improvement, but if you don't get one then you're either not part of the crowd, or you're going to make us feel like A-holes." You probably don't actually even NEED a scope if you are honest with yourself. And if you do, you don't need an expensive NINJA one. Most of that stuff is just hype anyway. People are blow-hards these days. They never got over high-school.

I normally don't bother responding to this type of post, but the above is complete and total rubbish. The difference between low/mid range scopes, and high end scopes is like night and day. Glass quality, proper adjustability and repeatability (adjusts accurately to a given adjustment value and will retain zero when repeatedly adjusted), tactile increment adjustments, overall durability.... the list goes on.

I hate spending money on high end optics, but I'm not foolish enough to try and convince myself and others that there is little to no difference between the two. Aside from the barrel, the optic and mounting system is the most important part of achieving and maintaining good accuracy.

[GHL]

"Best" long range scope...
There's others but you cant go wrong with the following:
Leupold (Mk 4)
NightForce
Schmidt & Bender
Unertyl
US Optics

Here's my GA Precision with NF glass...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66460&d=1233713980

Agreed on that list.

Good looking rifle, remfleader. If I haven't handled that rifle, I at least assembled quite a few of the parts that are on it.

[HOLLiS]

Some good suggestions so far, but to me, the big question is, "What are you going to be doing with it?"

A hunting scope is not a target scope, hunting scopes can cost a lot less. Precision long range target scopes probably cost the most. Military sniper scopes are up there too (for a civilian out side of the cool factor, they are not practical).

[JC0352]

Some good suggestions so far, but to me, the big question is, "What are you going to be doing with it?"

A hunting scope is not a target scope, hunting scopes can cost a lot less. Precision long range target scopes probably cost the most. Military sniper scopes are up there too (for a civilian out side of the cool factor, they are not practical).

H, looks like he already bought it since this thread was started: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4043600&postcount=11699

[Hilbert]

My Zeiss has never failed me yet and I've got nothing bad to say about it.
+1 to Zeiss

P.S.
If you have the money, consider a Schmidt & Bender.

[Ought Six]

The "it works on my AR, so it oughta work on my .300 WinMag" idea has one other little logical flaw. An AR has almost no recoil, while a .300 WinMag is going to give a scope a serious pounding. So along with the difference between midrange and top end scopes in optical quality, there is also a notable difference in pure ruggedness and the ability to hold zero when getting whacked with some serious recoil. For a magnum caliber rifle, buy a good scope. This is one case where you are going to get what you pay for.

You might find a good deal here:

http://www.samplelist.com/

[JC0352]

The "it works on my AR, so it oughta work on my .300 WinMag" idea has one other little logical flaw. An AR has almost no recoil, while a .300 WinMag is going to give a scope a serious pounding. So along with the difference between midrange and top end scopes in optical quality, there is also a notable difference in pure ruggedness and the ability to hold zero when getting whacked with some serious recoil. For a magnum caliber rifle, buy a good scope. This is one case where you are going to get what you pay for.

You might find a good deal here:

http://www.samplelist.com/

...and it's important to get it mounted properly. My .300WSM destroyed a set of Leupold rings because some young guy at Bass Pro didn't mount my scope properly. I brought it back and they took care of it though; their customer service is excellent.