please read, a concern.

[usa320]

Maybe im the only one seeing this, but it seems that alot of new members that have joined within the past like, 3 weeks, joined for the sole purpose of insulting the United states of America and pissing and moaning about evil zionist american conspiracies as much as possible... Half the people on this site appear not to give two ****s about the military or militaryphotos, so why the hell are they here... if they want to bash America go to some anarchist website or something. It seems these individuals dont care about any of the military issues discussed here, they NEVER have replied to a post regarding military equipment, history or photos and are only using the forum as a medium to push their leftist view.

So im going to make an appeal to everyone... If you have an interest in military affairs, please stay and share your thoughts and photos. If your here for no other reason that mock people's countrys, armies and religions, then get the hell out.

Ive seen some really stupid posts lately. Like people posting photos of American soldiers and people replying with some completely off topic horse**** about how marines eat babies and how the US Army are all Israeli agents and other ignorant worthless horse**** that need not be posted.

So what im asking is that people think before they post. That people really think hard and consider if what they are posting is informative, or just continued propaganda, crooked articles and worthless insults.

Ive seen alot of stuff at this forum, and usually i dont let things bug me... But people here for no reason other than to troll and insult have no reason being here.

[Fintin]

im gonna get a magazine and hunker down for the long run on this one...

[RavenW]

So what im asking is that people think before they post. That people really think hard and consider if what they are posting is informative, or just continued propaganda, crooked articles and worthless insults.
.

Those who think usually don't post leftist propaganda. And vice versa.

So I guess appeal to their intelligence is like appeal to SS conscience.

Guys, just ignore them and they will go away! Obviously most of them are stupid teenagers who don't have life outside of Internet form. :lol:

[Mongrel]

Funny I haven't seen any of this, but what I have seen the past few weeks is page after page of "kill'em all" genocide, and racist comments, and even a few vid links to people getting blown up and shot to death, all with armchair commentary of what bullet hit where etc.

Yet heaven forbid one shows nipples on the pic forum. LOL!

The big picture... I've been around the block enogh times to know that politics make strange bedfellows, and there is always more going on then you will hear about in the media. And everyone is going to be polorized one way ot another, and that is fine...as long as one can remain civilaized.

Finaly advice is not by my hand:

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.-Friedrich Nietzsche"

No matter how PO'd yah get don't sink to their level of chaos.

Cheers!
M.

[American Patriot]

You're right. Someone always has to ruin everything by bringing up politics.

[RavenW]

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.-Friedrich Nietzsche"

You continue to repeat this quote with fervent passion of loyal student.

Man, the guy was a piece of ****! A f..cking Nazi symbol and a moron.

Why do you constantly mention him like he is some kind of 'real deal'!

Maaan, rofl rofl rofl !

[usa320]

please, dont hijack my thread with your Nazi horse****...

If i want to be enlightened by quotes ill read something from Churchill or Kennedy. Not some monster.

[SeanAshi]

but it seems that alot of new members that have joined within the past like, 3 weeks, joined for the sole purpose of insulting the United states of America and pissing and moaning about evil zionist american conspiracies as much as possible...Its all about the "Great Satan" and its foreign policy. We are being blamed for fanning the flames of terrorism, its our fault :roll:

[RavenW]

German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche continued the revolt against reason initiated by the romantic movement, but he scornfully repudiated Schopenhauer’s negative, resigned attitude. Instead, Nietzsche affirmed the value of vitality, strength, and the supremacy of an existence that is purely egoistic. He also scorned the Christian and democratic ideas of the equal worth of human beings, maintaining that it is up to a few aristocrats to refuse to subordinate themselves to a state or cause, and thereby achieve self-realization and greatness. For Nietzsche the power to be strong was the greatest value in life. Although Nietzsche valued geniuses over dictators, his beliefs helped bolster the ideas of the National Socialists (Nazis) who gained control of Germany in the 1930s (see National Socialism).

Encarta Encyclopedia © 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Man, listening to him. :roll: We definitely have to nuke all of Middle East. After all we are stronger than them right now. :fork:

[Fargin]

It's impossible to discuss politics when we continue to disrespect opposing views. Both sides are guilty of taking cheapass shots below the belt. It's easier to ignore someones points, than trying to understand them.

It takes so little to shut down the dialouge and many seems to thrive on killing any attempts of building bridges based on mutual respect and understanding.

[Bayonet]

USA320 ,,,,You're right.....I agreed.....

Ignore them.....they are bufoons who just want to get others attention...

[RavenW]

It's impossible to discuss politics when we continue to disrespect opposing views. Both sides are guilty of taking cheapass shots below the belt. It's easier to ignore someones points, than trying to understand them.

It takes so little to shut down the dialouge and many seems to thrive on killing any attempts of building bridges based on mutual respect and understanding.

you want to build some bridges of understanding?

FINE!

Lets start!

Do you agree that the United States of America is a Great country with good kind heart and wonderful people?

Do you agree that America's enemies are worse piece of scum on the face of the Earth?

Do you agree that West Bank of Jordan river is "disputed" and NOT occupied by any sides?

Do you agree that Jews (just like any other local ethnic group) have a right to live in West Bank, which is both their historical homeland and also where they lived uniterrupted for THOUSANDS of years before Jordan took control of that territory in 1948?

Do you agree that Russia's enemies - Chechen rebels are cowardly terrorists that deserve physical elimination? They take pregnant women and sick children as hostages.

Do you agree that USA, Russia, Britain and Israel have a right to self defense like any other nation?

Do you agree that if someone declares a total war of elimination on us we can accept the challange and fight back until unconditional surrender?

Do you agree that through out Middle East evil fanatics teach children in schools and madrassas of hatred toward Jews and Christians?

Do you agree that such calls should not go unpunished?

etc...


you want build bridges, LETS BUILD BRIDGES! :)

[WolverineBlue]

The very nature of these fora breeds political discussion. Yes, there are those of us who are gung-ho Americans (me included), and then there are those who are anti-American, anti-West, etc., and then there are those who are in between (the majority). Just keep the comments and rants impersonal, fact-based, and coherent.

/back to my six-pack of Sierra Nevada

FORZA HELLAS

[Fargin]

you want to build some bridges of understanding?
Yes

FINE!


Lets start!
Great!

Do you agree that the United States of America is a Great country with good kind heart and wonderful people?
Yes like Israel is too

Do you agree that America's enemies are worse piece of scum on the face of the Earth?
No

Do you agree that West Bank of Jordan river is "disputed" and NOT occupied by any sides?
No


Do you agree that Jews (just like any other local ethnic group) have a right to live in West Bank, which is both their historical homeland and also where they lived uniterrupted for THOUSANDS of years before Jordan took control of that territory in 1948?
To some extend

Do you agree that Russia's enemies - Chechen rebels are cowardly terrorists that deserve physical elimination? They take pregnant women and sick children as hostages.
Only to some extend

Do you agree that USA, Russia, Britain and Israel have a right to self defense like any other nation?
Yes

Do you agree that if someone declares a total war of elimination on us we can accept the challange and fight back until unconditional surrender?
To some extend

Do you agree that through out Middle East evil fanatics teach children in schools and madrassas of hatred toward Jews and Christians?
All the fanatics do

Do you agree that such calls should not go unpunished?
To some extend

etc...


you want build bridges, LETS BUILD BRIDGES! :)
Ok! Rome wasn't build in one day, but atleast we're getting somewhere.

[RavenW]

you want to build some bridges of understanding?
Yes

FINE!


Lets start!
Great!

Do you agree that the United States of America is a Great country with good kind heart and wonderful people?
Yes like Israel is too

Do you agree that America's enemies are worse piece of scum on the face of the Earth?
No

Do you agree that West Bank of Jordan river is "disputed" and NOT occupied by any sides?
No


Do you agree that Jews (just like any other local ethnic group) have a right to live in West Bank, which is both their historical homeland and also where they lived uniterrupted for THOUSANDS of years before Jordan took control of that territory in 1948?
To some extend

Do you agree that Russia's enemies - Chechen rebels are cowardly terrorists that deserve physical elimination? They take pregnant women and sick children as hostages.
Only to some extend

Do you agree that USA, Russia, Britain and Israel have a right to self defense like any other nation?
Yes

Do you agree that if someone declares a total war of elimination on us we can accept the challange and fight back until unconditional surrender?
To some extend

Do you agree that through out Middle East evil fanatics teach children in schools and madrassas of hatred toward Jews and Christians?
All the fanatics do

Do you agree that such calls should not go unpunished?
To some extend

etc...


you want build bridges, LETS BUILD BRIDGES! :)
Ok! Rome wasn't build in one day, but atleast we're getting somewhere.

unfortunately for me - those are essentials.
If you answered 'no' to at least one question above, there is no point for me to continue the talk with you.

We never gonna find a common ground. For me it's like asking "Do you agree that it si wrong to kidnap and stab an innocent 5 year old child to death?"

If you failed, then you failed.

Those are not my "political" views or "religious" views, those are my fundamentals and the fundamentals of my universe.

Those are the "basics" to pas as a good man.

Thus, any person who answer 'No' at least to one question falls in the category of evil people or ignorant ones who don't no **** about the history or life.

you choose!

[UoUo]

People don't understand something....in the arab nation not only the exstrimst teach thier children to hate jew and christen those type of thing are teach in school!!

[Fargin]

You're giving me an ultimatum, you're asking me to cross your bridges and burn down mine.

[scott]

This is unfortunately the same with-us or against-us mentality that is manifesting itself in other aspects on International Relations.

Why is a person that disagrees with the above statements evil or ignorant?
Of course you are entitled to your opinion as people that disagree with you are as well, but I'm having a tough time rationalizing that particular one.

As for the topic in question.
I think the more concerning matter is not the increase in opposing viewpoints, but rather the way they have been received. That is to say with a thread like this and personal attacks.

If a person thinks the Israeli government acts in error, then you have the right to disagree with them and you even have the right to hate them, thats your call and you own the reprocussions. But this board is not the place for you to express those feelings.
Disagree all you want, but dont cross the line.

Take care and just some thoughts

[n4292936]

This thread sucked from the get-go. Now lets all get back to being selfrighteous holier-than-though know it alls, mmmkay.

[RavenW]

This is unfortunately the same with-us or against-us mentality that is manifesting itself in other aspects on International Relations.

Why is a person that disagrees with the above statements evil or ignorant?
Of course you are entitled to your opinion as people that disagree with you are as well, but I'm having a tough time rationalizing that particular one.

As for the topic in question.
I think the more concerning matter is not the increase in opposing viewpoints, but rather the way they have been received. That is to say with a thread like this and personal attacks.

If a person thinks the Israeli government acts in error, then you have the right to disagree with them and you even have the right to hate them, thats your call and you own the reprocussions. But this board is not the place for you to express those feelings.
Disagree all you want, but dont cross the line.

Take care and just some thoughts

Again you did not understand - it's not about politics, Israel or Israeli government, International relations etc.

you name it...

It's about people and their existence.

Arabs, Jews, Zulus, Eskimo, Aborigene..

I don't give a damn who they are... I support the right of people to live in their own land. Simple as it is. By that, again, I support the same rights of Arab people of Hebron to live there.

But I find it so appauling that some people (from Europe) don't find anything wrong with a literal call for new genocide in Middle East: "precisely dismantelling of Jewish villages there".


Why does it happen?
Because europe is full of Arab propaganda that is fed to Europeans since they were litlle. Day by day, night by night, year by year, decade for decade... Arabs continue their campaign of demonizing of Israel in the eyes of the world, until Europeans already so filled with brainwashing lies thatt they don't know what is what, and which is which.


Ignorance + bias and then add some Arab propaganda and lies... you gonna get very "tasty" soup...

Again, if some Jewish terrorists commits an atrocity, I have no problem that his house will be burnt to the ground, but when Europeans start to call for the removal of thousands and thousands of people... this is just sick.

Same goes with Palestinian Arabs. Those who do not participate in terrorism should live peacefully in their land. But they can't live like that until they will be LIBERATED from terrorist thugs that took their society (from inside) as hostage.


Why Europeans always mention Arab refugees of war of Arab aggression against Israel... a war that Arabs started (by the way) themselves in order to wipe out Jews from the face of the Earth and
the same Europeans fail to mention HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of Jewish refugees like they even did not exist? people who were forcefully taken out from their homes, tortured (my friend's grandpa still have cripled fingers because of he was tortured in Baghdad just because he was a Jew), deprived of all their posessions... and yet only Jews themselves raise the voice of concern for their lives?

Do Europeans really care about human rights? while thousand of Christians are persecuted in Middle East (very often by Palestinians, by the way), they say nothing. When black Sudanese are murdered by Muslims, Europe's lips are sealed, but when it comes to tiny Jewish state in the region... or boy... then they talk and talk loud.

You know when an International tribunal for human rights violations was called first time (!) in history of UN?
Not for the genocide in Cambodia, not for massacres in Rwanda, not for civil war in Angola or Zimbabwe, not with the war and slave trade in Sudan or Somalia, International tribunal for human rights violations was called for the first time in 2001 about "Israel's action in the 'occupied' territory"?

and while Israel is systematically denied a representation in the world body, UN sponsored organizations include such members as Sudan, Lybia, Syria, Morocco.




What can i tell? Those questions as essential and fundamental to me as "respect your parents", "don't lie", "don't steal", "live a life of honest hard work" etc.
When you say "no" to any of those for me is like saying "no" to "Do you agree that it is wrong to beat children with a hot iron?"

... I worked with children who were victims of horrible horrible abuse. I know my ground and i know my People. I saw the face of the enemy.

Do you know whose your "friends", Europe?

"It's a quizz time!" (c) Swing Kids (When Europeans fail to recognize evil, good people leave Europe)

[gilgoul]

Hooaah

[Fargin]

p-)

[Mongrel]

It's about people and their existence.

On the surface it is, but the bottom line is real estate, resources, and the continued manifistation of major religions controling the ignorant masses (sheep).

And along with this these people are controled by other more powerful people, and it is the whims and ambitions of these powerful people that are the cause of so many of the problems today.

BTW: I'll quote whoomever I want if it makes sense at the time to the situation, but here is a quote more to your liking... He wanted to Nuke China so it should give yah a woody:

"There is no security on this earth: there is only opportunity."
Douglas MacArthur

But even more apt:
"Educate your children to self-control, to the habit of holding passion and prejudice and evil tendencies subject to an upright and reasoning will, and you have done much to abolish misery from their future and crimes from society."
-Benjamin Franklin

Cheers!
M.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Maybe im the only one seeing this, but it seems that alot of new members that have joined within the past like, 3 weeks, joined for the sole purpose of insulting the United states of America
I dunno usa320 your attitude and rants alone are an insult to America and Americans. :|

[Mongrel]

"Do you agree that Jews (just like any other local ethnic group) have a right to live in West Bank, which is both their historical homeland and also where they lived uniterrupted for THOUSANDS of years before Jordan took control of that territory in 1948?"

I don't get it? This land has been taken, and occupide many times in History...exactly what is so good about it? Like why choose such a piece of reale estate again. Seems to be a bad mojo place for Jewish people with all the wars, expulsions, and occupation.

The world is a pretty big place..lots of open, and prettier places. Places not surrounded by nasty anti-jewish nations. Why there? Why not Northern Manitoba? Or a nice chain of warm islands in the south pacific?

I'm not trying to start something here I just want a clear answer.

I mean I'm Scottish, we got the shaft from England/Danegland in 1746.
We moved on and formed even better places/nations. Can I get my families chunk of ancestral land back? (Dores/inverness).

How far can one go back for compensated?
Cheers!
M.

[WolverineBlue]

"Do you agree that Jews (just like any other local ethnic group) have a right to live in West Bank, which is both their historical homeland and also where they lived uniterrupted for THOUSANDS of years before Jordan took control of that territory in 1948?"

I don't get it? This land has been taken, and occupide many times in History...exactly what is so good about it? Like why choose such a piece of reale estate again. Seems to be a bad mojo place for Jewish people with all the wars, expulsions, and occupation.

The world is a pretty big place..lots of open, and prettier places. Places not surrounded by nasty anti-jewish nations. Why there? Why not Northern Manitoba? Or a nice chain of warm islands in the south pacific?

I'm not trying to start something here I just want a clear answer.

I mean I'm Scottish, we got the shaft from England/Danegland in 1746.
We moved on and formed even better places/nations. Can I get my families chunk of ancestral land back? (Dores/inverness).

How far can one go back for compensated?
Cheers!
M.

Better shut your trap, lad -- we know that the Scots invented everything important in the world. As for the Jews -- they should have their Holy Land. The Palestinians can have their share too. Just put down the arms and stop the BS in the so-called "madrassas."

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.-Friedrich Nietzsche"

You continue to repeat this quote with fervent passion of loyal student.

Man, the guy was a piece of ****! A f..cking Nazi symbol and a moron.

Why do you constantly mention him like he is some kind of 'real deal'!

Maaan, rofl rofl rofl !
Friedrich Nietzsche was often quoted by Nazi's so that makes him PERSONA NON GRATA in the world of quotable literature, the guy died in 1900 for pete's sake. :cantbeli:

[Uncle Chô]

Maybe im the only one seeing this, but it seems that alot of new members that have joined within the past like, 3 weeks, joined for the sole purpose of insulting the United states of America and pissing and moaning about evil zionist american conspiracies as much as possible

If your here for no other reason that mock people's countrys, armies and religions*, then get the hell out.

*should read : the United States of America, its army and its religion

Ive seen some really stupid posts lately. Like people posting photos of American soldiers and people replying with some completely off topic horse**** about how marines eat babies and how the US Army are all Israeli agents and other ignorant worthless horse**** that need not be posted.

So what im asking is that people think before they post. That people really think hard and consider if what they are posting is informative, or just continued propaganda, crooked articles and worthless insults.
I would have agree with your warning call if someone else with a well balanced opinion and real knowledge of what is going on abroad had written this post (like Tane Angle for example). True some people wrote a lot of B/S and flaming topics only for the purpose of teasing other readers.

But you and American Patriot are one the most biased participants as soon as it comes to American topics. Your views are so partial that you are no better than the leftist extremists rethoric (like Michael Moore) in the opposite way... :|

The positive point is that I have a good laugh everytime I read your posts because it is so caricatured :D

Suggestion : why both of you don't propose your service to Newsmax (www.newsmax.com)?

Example :

Durring his presidency, many people disliked Ronald Reagan's actions. But now in retrospect everyone realize how much good his policies did for the world. I think Bush is in the same boat. Right now people might bitch about them, but those same people's children will look back in 30 years and realize that the world is safer because he was president.

You're right. Someone always has to ruin everything by bringing up politics. rofl rofl

[StarvingStudent47]

Now, I'm anything but a right-wing extremist, but come on, we've all seen it. There are a significant number of people around this board who come here to just insult people's countries. They don't want to talk about APCs or rifles or look at pictures of military stuff. They just want to toss s--- at various nations and the militaries of those nations.

I don't get it. Why would someone who hates militaries come here? I'm not a pacifist or an anarchist, so I don't go to pacifist or anarchist forums. Why do they come here?

[martinexsquaddie]

poor old nietzche got a bit of a bum deal the nazi's loved him but like most right thing types did'nt look to deep into his philosphy or they might not have been so keen.
especially his bit about the jews having the purest blood lines :roll: something like that anyway :)
My problem with gung ho americans sprouting there love of freedom etc is it's not exactly mirrored with there actions overseas :roll: .
Can't really say that about the russians or chinese there bastards at home and equally scummy behaviour when on there hols :(

[Tane Angle]

Ok, I've got to admit, the insults do get to me. Now I am far from the most concise person on this message board, and it's something I do work at, but let's have a look at writing concisely, ok? (Farmgirl, feel free to correct me on this writing stuff if I mess up, ok?) When writing, one does not want to have "distraction" phrases. Take this example.

"George Bush is a horrible President, you moron!"

That last phrase in bold distracts the reader from the meat of the sentence. The argument would be more effective and effecient if "you moron!" was left out of the sentence. Five minutes from now, the only part of that sentence that I will remember is the abusive language, not the meat. Thus, it is a useless sentence that only tarnishes the character of the writer.

So you don't like George Bush? Fine, explain why, by all means. But please, do it respectfully and nicely. Readers are more likely to give arguments the benefit of the doubt and actually listen for five minutes if the argument is made in a respectful, cordial manner. And do you want to be respected? It's very tough to respect those who do not respect others. Don't say "how can I respect him if he doesn't respect me!" Both sides should take one step forward and meet one another halfway.

Now this post isn't directed at just the political left. It is equally directed at the political right. Some people have only limited time on the message board and it only wastes their precious time if they have sift through insults and slurs just to find some worthwhile posts. It's gotten to the point where I know that some people here will not bother reading a thread if certain users have posten in that thread. It is selfish of us if we waste people's limited time by making posts that contain such unnecessary insults. That goes for both political sides.

Just today I was talking with someone on here who I do not agree with always politically, but who I respect very much. Why do I? Because he doesn't insult me for having different opinions. He writes "I disagree with you" instead of "I disagree with you, you idiot!" I can respect that. And I would much rather read one of his respectful, well-written posts, even though I disagree with it, than I would a post that technically agrees with my political leanings but includes abusive language.

I've heard more and more complaints about the insults on here, most of them from board members who I respect and would miss very much were they to be driven away by the insults. So let's convince them to stick around by showing that we can write and discuss with some manner of dignity and self-respect, no? Thank you very much.

As always, have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[usa320]

Tane hit it right on the nail. If you want to post an opinion, by all means post something to back it up- articles, websites, accounts, stats...ect. Dont just ramble on and on like a broken record player...

And if your going to browse this site, browse it for what it is... militaryphotos.net. Everyone here should be commenting with regards to military things and photos. But not everyone is. There are people- trolls- and possibly even just a few with 5 accounts each- in our midst that just hijack every single post with things like "The zionist-American friendship is disturbing" or quotes from Michael Moore... or "Good Job Insurgents, kill more yankee bastards". Its annoying as sin. Also people trying to justify beheadings and carbombings with that "freedom fighter" bull crap is annoying as well... It should end... After all, without the Zionist American army, the bastards that they are :roll: , this site wouldnt exist.

[Tane Angle]

Keep in mind though, that we should not call for the deaths of the liberals either, ok?

[usa320]

Of course not...

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Tane hit it right on the nail. If you want to post an opinion, by all means post something to back it up- articles, websites, accounts, stats...ect. Dont just ramble on and on like a broken record player...

And if your going to browse this site, browse it for what it is... militaryphotos.net. Everyone here should be commenting with regards to military things and photos. But not everyone is. There are people- trolls- and possibly even just a few with 5 accounts each- in our midst that just hijack every single post with things like "The zionist-American friendship is disturbing" or quotes from Michael Moore... or "Good Job Insurgents, kill more yankee bastards". Its annoying as sin. Also people trying to justify beheadings and carbombings with that "freedom fighter" bull crap is annoying as well... It should end... After all, without the Zionist American army, the bastards that they are :roll: , this site wouldnt exist.
You have taken my breath away with this one usa320 only last week you were bashing liberals, if you have turned over a new leaf then I am pleased with you but remember "prcatice what you preach".

[Fargin]

Disrespect is a two way street.

Be carefull what one write. If one want to start a sober debate, one cannot allow oneself to hide small insults in your post. However small they are, they will dominate the level of the discussion. Keep the wording as neutral as possible, be carefull with negativly charged words, that risk being persieved as accusations or personal/national attacks.

Using insults is like cheating in an argument. By refusing to respect, listen and by ridiculing opposing views, one will kill any productive attempts. The opponent have two choices joining the insults or leaving the discussion.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Keep in mind though, that we should not call for the deaths of the liberals either, ok?
sez hoo? p-)
j/k

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

I quite frankly find this thread amazing, this thread was started by a poster who wanted to "nuke" Iraq into a solid piece of glass...over the death of 1 civillian. :roll:

Normally I dont really care what happens on an internet forum, but when you read posts like this all day ...



I will gladly give my Sierra Nevada Ale-ridden body up in place of a young boy. Gimme my SOPMOD, a few nades and some ragheads to shoot.
May God bless America.

Do you see the problem here? I do, its called lack of respect. Agree'd the lack of respect goes both ways though as every sword has 2 sides. You see Iraqi's as "ragheads", not as Iraqi's or Afghans or whatever there nationality is. It makes me wonder, if some of the American population thinks like that what percentage in Iraq think the same thing?


The difference is when someone wants to nuke a whole country, over the death of 1 civillain, who's calling for torture on "suspected" terrorists, who wants North Korea, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, "Palestine" and a couple South African counrties invaded...Who wanted Falluja "leveled flat" because of the insurgency in Iraq no matter the death toll on civillians...How can I respect your opinions? How rational are they? Not very, they are to the point of right wing extremism.

If you say "f*ck the "ragheads" lets bomb there country flat.." (yes all of you pre-teens with too much time on your hands) enjoy your draft in 2005, and let me know how it goes for you.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Hmmmm

Nobody up against debating with a "liberal island wussy"?

[American Patriot]

You wanna kill 'ragheads' join the Military. Simple as that.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

You wanna kill 'ragheads' join the Military. Simple as that.

What happened to liberating the "ragheads"? What happened to wining the "hearts and minds" of the "ragheads"? Are you serious? What about the "ragheads" that are on your side? You reffer to them like they are sub-human, your just a racist prick. You dont see the people for who they are, they are people who live n breathe like the rest of us. Unfortuneatly your too much of an "American Patriot" to see it any different. :roll:

I'm sure if you walked into a recruitment office and said you wanted to join the Army to "kill ragheads", they'd probably kick you out (well at least they better).

[Tane Angle]

If one wants to "kill 'ragheads,'" stay the heck away from the US military. In fact, any occupation that involves weaponry is probably a no-no. Today I am retired, but still work in conjunction with the military, mainly with the Army lately, but with the other branches as well. I don't need bloodthirsty rambos. I need people who are blends of history professors, translators, construction workers, my dear old grandmothers, doctors, tough detectives, and the nice old guy at the corner deli. But I do not need anyone who is there so they can kill anyone. One's desire to kill off the population of the Middle East only makes them an even poorer job candidate.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Well said Tane, I couldnt agree more. You need to post more, maybe just maybe some of the younger American posters can see the people there country is trying to liberate is more then just "ragheads and terrorists"....

Just my 2 cents

[Tane Angle]

I have to ask, what exactly is a "raghead," in terms of how it is used here?

Is it someone who wears a turban, a headscarf, or other head covering? Do you want to kill most Muslims? What about Sikhs? Or Orthodox Jews and Christians?

Is it someone who shoots at Americans? Muslims are hardly the only people in the Middle East to have done that.

Is it a Muslim? Is it an an Arab? Is it someone who lives in the Middle East?

Why not just the less-controversial and more accurate description of "terrorist" or "insurgent" or the like?

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[Roger Rabbit]

I have to ask, what exactly is a "raghead," in terms of how it is used here?

Is it someone who wears a turban, a headscarf, or other head covering? Do you want to kill most Muslims? What about Sikhs? Or Orthodox Jews and Christians?

Is it someone who shoots at Americans? Muslims are hardly the only people in the Middle East to have done that.

Is it a Muslim? Is it an an Arab? Is it someone who lives in the Middle East?

Why not just the less-controversial and more accurate description of "terrorist" or "insurgent" or the like?

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

I speak with experience which has come through reading books. With that said my view is that the term Raghead is used to describe the people who conduct or support terrorist/insurgent attacks because they(the people who use the term) cannot/or find it difficult to fight back against who they percieve to be the enemy because they do not know who the enemy is or can cannot clearly define the enemy. Maybe its similar to the way Gook was used in Vietnam?

It must be difficult for soldiers who have been trained to fight a conventional war to instead have to fight an unconventional war.

[SeanAshi]

You wanna kill 'ragheads' join the Military. Simple as that.If you want to sit around and do nothing but watch your equipment fall apart, join the Canadian military.

[Fargin]

Wikipedia encyclopedia: raghead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raghead)

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

You wanna kill 'ragheads' join the Military. Simple as that.If you want to sit around and do nothing but watch your equipment fall apart, join the Canadian military.

I'll only tell you once, think before you type. So we sit around doing nothing? What do you call Afghanistan, Kosovo, Bosnia , and Haiti?

Comments like this are only ment to start flame wars, consider yourself warned.

[Tane Angle]

Sorry, I should probably clarify that I am very familiar with the term, and that I meant for some to consider the ridiculousness of the term. p-)

Sean, why was that necessary? The Canadian military does quite a lot, especially in terms of getting a good bang for their buck. Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[Mongrel]

No Nitche? Damn this mean I'll have to stop listening the wagner also?
And sell my VW. rofl

Also any short comings on the part of the Canadian military are a direct result of our Liberal Government (soon to be replaced gods willing).

M.

[ZeroPositive]

Just wanted to say I would support the US and Canada, even when I got grilled by some young Indian immigration lady... when I went to visit mates in Toronto....

[Roger Rabbit]

[quote="Tane Angle"]Sorry, I should probably clarify that I am very familiar with the term, and that I meant for some to consider the ridiculousness of the term. p-) quote]

:oops: Oops excuse me, i been drinking :lol:

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Yea im not sure why he made that comment, most likely he was just trying to "stir the pot" either way. This topics dead , Tane feel free to lock this one anytime before it spirals outta control.

[usa320]

quite frankly find this thread amazing, this thread was started by a poster who wanted to "nuke" Iraq into a solid piece of glass...over the death of 1 civillian

Quote that... I never said that, ever... not once... Do not put words in mouth.

Ive never called anyone a "raghead" either.

While some people might not, i do realize that in order to win this war we have to deal with this people. Nuking iraq into a parking lot would do absolutely nothing.

So either quote where i suggested using nuclear weapons on Iraq, or stop putting words in my mouth.

I think now is a good time for the lock to be applied. I started this thread to try and get people to stop arguing and start debating with sense. But the thread itself merely caused more arguments.

[Tane Angle]

As requested.