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GiladS
04-04-2009, 08:05 PM
Mystery in Sudan


Hagai Segal wonders why people talk about Sudan bombing but not about Egyptian conduct

Hagai Segal

Here is a geography question: 13 trucks are slowly traveling through Sudan's roads. They are packed to capacity with Iranian weapons. Assuming that Israel Air Force fighter jets will not suddenly hit and destroy these trucks, how will this long convoy make it safely to the Gaza Strip?

The answer: Only via Egypt (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/unescape(this.href)). There is no other way. Port Sudan and the smuggling tunnels in Rafah are separated by huge Egyptian territory, which must be crossed in order to make it to the ultimate destination.

And now, here is a question that has to do with current affairs: Can anyone imagine that Egyptian authorities would not be able to spot and stop such large convoy before it reaches its destination?


The answer: This is perhaps imaginable, but it is difficult to believe. After all, Egyptian border officials have distinguished themselves in their ability to spot even two bullets that were forgotten in the cars of Israelis during their latest reserve service. Therefore, it makes no sense that these border officials would fail to spot a weapons smuggling operation comprising 13 trucks.


Rare coincidence

Only a modern-day plague of darkness can serve to explain this failure, and as far as we know there has been no such plague reported in Egypt since our exodus from there. In fact, the sun shines in the country of the Nile almost 365 days a year.
And on a final note, here is yet another question: Somewhat oddly, we did not get to see public debate regarding the above issue during the past week. Everyone chattered enthusiastically about the bombing of the convoy in Sudan, yet almost no one wondered out loud about the part played by the Egyptians in transporting such convoys to the Gaza Strip.

Why was that the case? What was the reason for this silence?

The answer: A rare coincidence. Exactly this past week, we marked 30 years since the peace treaty with Egypt was signed, and such publically expressed question marks as described above could have tainted the celebrations. Indeed, Egyptian President Mubarak may have been inclined to end his barrage of visits to Israel in protest.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3696991,00.html

The Dane
04-04-2009, 08:08 PM
Who are hagai segal ?
And don't you have a link to your source ??

GiladS
04-04-2009, 08:24 PM
Who are hagai segal ?
And don't you have a link to your source ??

True, my bad... source added.

Mastermind
04-04-2009, 10:17 PM
okay..now I'm confused...is this a war game question/scenario...is this really happening..is there a convoy enroute at this time...are the Egyptians expected to hit it or are the Israelis?

Maybe I'm just too drunk to catch all the nuanced innuendos here...regardless...I've only had one shot of rum tonight..so I don't think I'm that drunk...Strong Rum? Idunno. MM >;_(

kuttless
04-04-2009, 10:18 PM
Suuppa Wee Poost

GiladS
04-04-2009, 10:22 PM
okay..now I'm confused...is this a war game question/scenario...is this really hapening..is ther a convoy enroute at this time...are the Egyptians expected to hit it or are the Israelis?

Maybe I'm just too drunk to catch all the nuanced innuendos here...regardless...I've only had one shot of rum tonight..so I don't think I'm that drunk...Strong Rum? Idunno. MM >;_(

The convoy was attacked in Sudan in January (the peak of Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip).

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154033&highlight=sudan

At first sources claimed that the U.S carried out the attack but now claims that Israel carried out this attack on its own (with U.S approval) are getting stronger and Israel is not denying nor confirming this.

AZZenny
04-05-2009, 02:39 AM
An Egyptian blogger's (http://www.sandmonkey.org/2009/04/01/connect-the-dots/)view:



...when it comes to middle-east politics (from Israeli-Palestinian relations to AlBashir in Sudan), it's always best to ignore what people say, and focus on what they do instead. Some people claim that Israel and Egypt don't have a good relationship, some of them even leave coments here, and they rail about the bull**** peace and blah blah blah…
I view things slightly differently: Not only does Egypt and Israel have a very functional and healthy relationship, I would go further and state that I believe them to be the diplomatic equivalent of a couple that knows one another so well, that they no longer have to speak to communicate their desires, nor do they get mad at each other when one of them says something stupid. The facade and drama non-withstanding, they make things work, in a very silent and efficient way.
...

Now, while I think that some of you will not share my perspective on this, I decided to leave you with a little exercise. I will present you a number of stories, and you are free to connect the dots as you please:

March 25th: The Sudanese President visits the Egyptian President in order to discuss the ICC's indictment of him, but no one knows exactly what they actually talked about. After the meeting, the Egyptian Foreign Minister during the visit states that Egypt's hands are tied when it comes to arresting Omar, because the Security council has not supported the ICC's indictment.

March 26th: Israeli jets carried out a long-range bombing mission against a convoy in
Sudan that was suspected of bringing arms from Iran to Hamas in the Gaza
Strip.

March 27th: Egypt has been sending forces to its border with
Sudan in an effort to prevent smuggling into the Gaza Strip, due to
intensive international pressure following Israel's offensive on the
Hamas-ruled coastal territory earlier this year.

March 30th: The Sudanese President attends the Arab Summit in Doha. The Egyptian President doesn't attend. Neither the Egyptian Foreign Minister.
Everybody gets distracted due to Qhaddafi's antics.

And the beat goes on…

kahn267
04-05-2009, 08:53 AM
Its common knowledge that Egypt has terrible corruption through its government regarding smuggling of weapons. No Egyptian is going to sacrifice his life in stopping rockets and weapons destined to be aimed at Israel.

On the other hand, the Egyptians cant look as if they play too well with Israel anyway, for fear of terrorism and other repurcussions on their soil.