View Full Version : What is airsoft???
IronHeart_26
07-20-2003, 08:39 PM
I have seen so much posted on here about airsoft, mostly by Digitalghost, but could someone please enlighten me as to what exactly airsoft is??? I'm just curious to know why it is so important to some. :roll:
Nawlins
07-20-2003, 08:41 PM
AFAIK, simulated combat using Airsoft guns, which are replicas of real weapons that shoot bb's or painballs. I know guys that have them, they're pretty neat and realistic-looking, but I'm not really into the game.
Mortimer
07-20-2003, 09:10 PM
lol and if you use them you are a try hard wannabe!
digitalghost
07-20-2003, 09:24 PM
AIRSOFT ON THE NEWS!!!
http://www.bcairsoft.com/videos/cbc.mpg
http://www.bcairsoft.com/videos/cbc.mpg
http://www.bcairsoft.com/videos/cbc.mpg
Thats probably the best introduction; Also check out some more cool videos:
TEAM VIDEOS: http://www.bcairsoft.com/videos/cbc.mpg
WEAPON VIDEOS:
M16A2 FIRING: http://airsoft.3dretreat.com/videos/files/M16A2.mpg
GAS BERETA M92FS: http://airsoft.3dretreat.com/videos/files/beretta_centurion.mpg
More here make sure you click the blue arrows to turn the pages: http://www.airsoftretreat.com/videos/gunvideos1.asp
Game video: http://airsoftextreme.com/videos/FOF_1_6_01_Meeting_Engagement.asx
Gmae video2: http://airsoftextreme.com/videos/Nam_12_30_00_Socal.asx
I bet you regret asking now..
IronHeart_26
07-20-2003, 10:22 PM
Yeah, you could say that. But I guess you could also say that I've been thoroughly educated on the subject now. Seems kinda silly to me....like playing war. We used to do that as kids with water guns, pinecones....shoot with just about anything that we could throw at each other (if you heard the words "stink bomb'em" then you run, as fast, as hard, and as far away as you could get!) .....unfortunately though the boys outnumbered the girls on our street and my best friend and I usually ended up hostages. Ahhh....the memories of childhood....then you grow up and stop playing games and start living life in the real world.
digitalghost
07-20-2003, 11:18 PM
Its alot more than just playing kiddie war now: Here are professional VHS/DVDs of national level events which costs $100 plus per person to attend:
OP: Iron Angel--- Combat Missions' "Delta" squad was even there to play: http://www.operationironangel.com/
Vietnam War + Desert War: http://www.combatenterprises.com/videos.htm
Chet Mystery
07-21-2003, 12:00 AM
I also play airsoft.
I agree with DG (GASP!) that it is more than just a kid's game. However, I doubt it leads to any revelance on these forums. There are hundreds of airsoft message boards, so discussion about it should be kept on them. I don't come here posting as if I were someone acctually in the military or some SF unit, or whatever. To me, airsoft is not about living a lie, its about having fun. Believe me, I know how people get here, and I share your pain, when some kid, or adult in some cases, who plays airsoft and instantly thinks they acctually are some elite operator. Thats just pathetic...
Well, just my thoughts on the subject.
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 12:07 AM
LMAO any kid who says that has some mental problems or are trying to get some attention or trying to satisfy their egos etc. whatever-- But airsoft is about simulation-- An alternative to joining the military to fulfill that need for military action-- Airsoft is so similar to the real thing like the equipement, weapons, tactics, locations, etc.
Ichhabe
07-21-2003, 12:14 AM
Seems kinda silly to me....like playing war. We used to do that as kids with ....then you grow up and stop playing games and start living life in the real world.
If you lose your innerchild when becomming an adult, you lose something marvelous. Not being able to play, will just leave you in a boring Grown up-envoirenment.
Airsoft or Paintball ain't about playing war. As I see it, it is a game. Have not played Airsoft yet, but I will. I had some years with paintball, wich I found very entertaining. Not for one second did I think that I was in a war game.
I play different games on my PC, I play different kind of Boardgames, and every now and then I can do other "childish" stuff.
I have seen enough of my earlier friends grow up and being Over-adulted. My God, I feel so sorry for them.
Being able to play, and have fun is luckyily a part of my Real World.
ScoutRanger
07-21-2003, 02:16 AM
I have seen so much posted on here about airsoft, mostly by Digitalghost, but could someone please enlighten me as to what exactly airsoft is??? I'm just curious to know why it is so important to some. :roll:
I'll tell you what it is... A waste of time and money.
Merik
07-21-2003, 02:53 AM
I'll tell you what it is... A waste of time and money.
That was really unnecessary Scout. All the guy wants is info on this and you and Mortimer are being real jerks about it and shove it in his face. If you think you are so special and better than him because you think its a waste of time and money then shut up and let IH decide for himself.
martinexsquaddie
07-21-2003, 03:30 AM
)it looks like alot of fun but it is only a game :lol:
a very silly game
but no siller than being pulled around by a large kite on an overgrown skateboard. But air soft has as much in common with the military as playing counterstrike (oh sorry being a master of counter strike is one of the requiments to get into delta along with wearing old navy pants :D :D
FallenAngel
07-21-2003, 03:40 AM
) (oh sorry being a master of counter strike is one of the requiments to get into delta along with wearing old navy pants :D :D
DUDE! Don't forget about the Ray-band shades. A *MUST* for any operator! ;)
Yes, airsoft can be a fun game...as long as its kept within the bounds of reason. Getting all geared up to looked exactly like a Breen Beret for a few hours of fun just seems..."pathetic" :D
ScoutRanger
07-21-2003, 03:42 AM
I'll tell you what it is... A waste of time and money.
That was really unnecessary Scout. All the guy wants is info on this and you and Mortimer are being real jerks about it and shove it in his face. If you think you are so special and better than him because you think its a waste of time and money then shut up and let IH decide for himself.
Yeah, Im so cool because I think airosoft is a waste of time and money!?!!??
Jerk is in the eye of the beholder. I fail to realize how me thinking playing with overpriced bbguns is a waste of time and money makes me a jerk. But hey, whatever floats your boat. As for letting IH decide for him/herself, why do you think s/he came to these forums to post?
Seraphim
07-21-2003, 04:03 AM
It seems like whenever airsoft is mention in any thread it gets into a huge argument. :|
Just pointing out the obvious.
martinexsquaddie
07-21-2003, 04:25 AM
Dude Delta only wear Oakleys :lol:
i read it airsoft professionals weekly ;)
Beloved Shiv
07-21-2003, 08:42 AM
Toys.
Beloved Shiv
07-21-2003, 08:57 AM
Although, as far as toys go, I think the Airsoft-brand is premier and about as close to actual firearms as you'll find anywhere. 'Possibly even a reasonable alternative to pursuing Class III permits just to be able to handle and shoot modern small arms playing a vital role in current events.
airsoft = dressing up like u did as a kid in old clothes u found in the attic and then playing wargames like u did as little kids 'ratatata boom ur dead!! no i wasnt ! yes u were i hit u!! no i had superduperlevel4 armor!' :)
Merik
07-21-2003, 11:54 AM
All the guy wanted was to learn what it was in a true fashion. Not opinons from a bunch of guys who think its nothing but BS. I dont play it but yet at the same time I dont condone it. Im surprised at the amount of people hear that gave a negative response to one mans question when it wasnt a stupid one at that.
gaboki
07-21-2003, 12:19 PM
I'll tell you what it is... A waste of time and money.
That was really unnecessary Scout. All the guy wants is info on this and you and Mortimer are being real jerks about it and shove it in his face. If you think you are so special and better than him because you think its a waste of time and money then shut up and let IH decide for himself.
Yeah, Im so cool because I think airosoft is a waste of time and money!?!!??
Jerk is in the eye of the beholder. I fail to realize how me thinking playing with overpriced bbguns is a waste of time and money makes me a jerk. But hey, whatever floats your boat. As for letting IH decide for him/herself, why do you think s/he came to these forums to post?
**** you, its called a hobby...
maybe you should get one...
Trigger
07-21-2003, 01:03 PM
I'm sure airsoft is a blast, and I'd play it if I had the time and loose change, but 'playing doctor' is a lot more fun ;)
IronHeart_26
07-21-2003, 02:30 PM
Oh my goodness, I should have known better than to ask what airsoft was. I'll definately rethink my questions in the future. Thanks guys....you really know how to put a lady in her place! And yes, I know my example of childhood warplaying doesn't compare to the sophisticated level of airsoft.....but it's the only example I've got....and it was fun too!
And as for losing my inner child.....even though I'm the ripe old age of twenty seven, or as a kid would say..."I'm twenty seven and a half!"....I can still get down and play with the best of them! I just prefer to play different games. Someone mentioned playing doctor......now that's a timeless favorite of mine. It's much more fun to play the devoted nurse to the wounded brave soldier. I'd take that over shooting him with paint balls any day!
Anyway, my question was just that....a question. I didn't know what airsoft was so I decided to ask. I know better now. Actually, I could have kicked myself after posting it when I realized how dumb I was to ask the "Airsoft" question.......what was I thinking???
Gringo
07-21-2003, 02:31 PM
Airsoft is gr8. It beats paintball by miles!
Some people do take it a little too far, but hey sometimes it's funny. Like this guy.
http://www.karlsplace.co.uk/airsoft/gallery/dragon_valley/190102/hatchettache.jpg
Nawlins
07-21-2003, 02:36 PM
That was really unnecessary Scout. All the guy wants is info on this and you and Mortimer are being real jerks about it and shove it in his face. If you think you are so special and better than him because you think its a waste of time and money then shut up and let IH decide for himself.
Good point. But just for the record, I think he's a she (IH).
It is just a game, but I've seen the guns, they are cool... pretty real looking except for the obligatory orange thing on the end of the barrel.
ESCOBAR
07-21-2003, 03:13 PM
AIRSOFT isnt for little kids........you do realize they use it in the Military to train right? There's even pictures on this site with Marines training with it.
HEre in north american we go Paintballing, in JAPAN AIRSOFT is big there they have places to goto like we goto paintball places.
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 03:25 PM
IronHeart_26: So you as the original author of this topic--- Do you think airosft is an immature sport for little kids or a professional 18+ sport meant to be taken seriously?
My fellow airosfters, if yout hink about it no one heres going to stop you from playing airosft so it doenst even matter what anyone else thinks.
IronHeart_26
07-21-2003, 03:35 PM
Whether it is immature or not....to each his own. Personally, I can't see myself playing. But who know's, anythings possible. If the right people were involved, I might be game for it. All I wanted to know was what it was. Now I do. 'Nuff said.
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 03:37 PM
If you want to play just find a local team buy the $400 weapon $60 Camouflage and $50 paintball mask and you're good to go--unless you wanted more equipment-- Its also an exellent friendship source-- You live in teh south? What state? I do beleive theres Texas Airsoft
Midtown
07-21-2003, 03:38 PM
Okay, I've been playing airsoft for over 3 years now, and I have met some of my best buddies thru playing, You learn Teamwork, Communication, field manuvering. And you have fun, even my girlfriend has started to get into it, It's a more realistic alternitive to Paintball, it's called a MILSIM for a reason. Most people who are negative about it havnt been properly introduced. If you dont like it, thats fine, but it sure beats to hell sitting in front of a Pc clicking on people to shoot them.
http://sofairsoft.com
Thats my teams site. Check it out or talk to me for more info.
Weapon - 150$ if you know where to look
Camo - 35$ if your slick (new)
Paintball goggles (not mask, full face masks are for pansys)
I prefer to use my Bolle X800's.
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 03:58 PM
Dude where do you get your $150 weapon? The standard is an AEG with a hicap and battery. Basicly a startup kit like the ones from AirsoftExtreme which include:
-Battery (mini, stick or standard - this depends on the type of AEG)
-Charger
-Discharger (miniplug included)
-Hicap Mag
-Bag of Excel 0.20g BB's (3700)
-Shipping included in the price (tax not included for CA residents)
http://www.airsoftextreme.com/beginner.html
They happen to be in the $300-400 price range
Trigger
07-21-2003, 04:03 PM
CRAP
you forgot:
-personality (1 each) priceless
Midtown
07-21-2003, 04:14 PM
I have good hookups thru a dealer, thats how.
If someone is just getting into the sport, buy a used gun, christ, you can get those around 125$ if you know the right person.
I already had a charger, discharger and all those goodies,
Im running
6 Standards
3 Hicaps
-M4A1 RIS, Silencer, red dot scope, AN/PEQ2, laser.
-SR 16, upgraded to 400+ FPS, things a BB Hose. Entire internals have been revamped.
I let my girl use the SR because I figure she could use the extra power.
Plus I get all tactical gear cheaper, because our team is sponsored by
www.tacticalgearusa.com.
Ill post a new pic of all my gear n crap when im at home lata.
Old pic of my gear - http://sofairsoft.com/hosted/side2.jpg
USAF G
07-21-2003, 04:17 PM
Not to nit pick here, but the Marines are not using airsoft in those pictures. They are using Simunition FX or another similar product. You can tell by the magazines on their guns. Simunitions FX uses real guns that have been modified to fire a real marking cartrige. The projectile travels quite a bit faster and is quite a bit heavier than airsoft. Also, they use the same weapons as they are issued, which makes for much more realistic training. Simunition does have it's drawbacks, however, like cost of ammo and reliability of the conversion units, but it is used by the Marines, DSS, Secret Service, and Air Marshalls use, as well as a whole lot of police agencies.
After saying all that, I've found that Airsoft can be quite usefull in senario based simulation type training. I do think it's more suited to handgun distances and close situations, and it too has it's drawbacks (capacity of the guns, lack of ability to perform speed refils of the guns without breaking the magazines etc.), but nothings perfect. The airsoft does allow force on force type traing with pain giving excellent performence feedback, and it's not as messy as Sim. so you can conceivably train in envronments that you might actually be performing in (ie inside offices etc). It's inexpensivness allows for a lot of reps or repeats of senarios.
My unit is in the process of procuring a number of Airsoft M9s for training, so I guess it's not just for the kids. p-)
Midtown
07-21-2003, 04:21 PM
heh, my buddies dad owns an office building, and we were playing in there, we marked up the walls and doors so damn bad, but thats because we were all using Upgraded guns. Im a bigger fan of outdoor games, but CQB can be pretty fun everyonce in a while especially when you run into a guy who's 10 feet away shooting 400 FPS bb's at your head.
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 04:44 PM
Does your M4 RIS have that wobble or does that metal receiver you got on cure that wobble?
SR16 doesnt have wobble right?
What M9s are you buying? Gas or Spring? If Gas-- Tokyo Marui or Western Arms? I hear western arms is better-- heres a TM M9 review: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ReviewDetail?reviewID=69
Midtown
07-21-2003, 04:52 PM
My M4RIS doesnt have a metal body (yet)
but both the M4 and the SR have no wobble, as long as you keep things tightened, there shouldnt be a prollem, unless you bang the hell out of it on trees
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 04:54 PM
How can your M4 not have wobble? Your saying your M4 is solid and not even wobble 1mm? I heard the reinforced or one piece barrel plus a metal body would cure the wobble--- and sr16 dindt have the wobble probelme
Midtown
07-21-2003, 04:57 PM
Mine is a Newer M4RIS, Maybe they fixed it in newer versions (post SR) but it doesnt wobble at all, which is amazing with all the wieght i have on mine.
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 04:59 PM
exellent--- and I thought I'll have to pay more for a wobble cure-- think before i buy the weapon i'll just ask if fixing the wobble is necessary first
SEALteamVBSS
07-21-2003, 07:49 PM
Thats nothing at all like airsoft. IT's a great thing to do I mean the comraderie, awesome people. I play with ex-military guys, current military guys, SWAT members, etc. It isnt ur lil kiddie game it actually gets pretty intense and you have to be pretty quick and think on your feet if you dont want to get shot. So go out and play before you run your mouth on here!
here is a photo of my primary and sidearms
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/mymp5andsidearms-01.jpg
SEALteamVBSS
07-21-2003, 07:54 PM
here are just a few more random shots
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/meUSNSEAL-1.jpg
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/meUSNSEAL-4.jpg
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/mySWATbhuavwtmakevlar-01.jpg
IronHeart_26
07-21-2003, 07:59 PM
I feel I must apologize to all members of this forum who have posted anything remotely inteligent. Please forgive me for starting this.....maybe it will be over soon. Again, sorry I created this monster of a thread. :|
Did you remember to take a watch between 1.30-2.00 am and then get up at 4.30 am before taking those pictures? Of course you did not get to sleep before midnight preparing your patrol base. And there were several alarms during the night when you had to run out of the tent and into defensive positions dug in the evening.
Just trying to add to the realism factor of airsoft.
Beowulf
07-21-2003, 08:19 PM
SealTeam, for being on a Seal team you sure have a messy room.
Could you buy me some gear, or ask your parents to buy me some gear, as it seems that you've got plenty o extra cash.
I'll return the favor by posting a pic of me wearing it in an exotic country. I know as a fellow operator you will assist me in my quest for better high speed gear.
Please send money to the national Association for the Advancement of Beowulf: high-speed gear assistance funds division.
All Best
beowulf
SEALteamVBSS
07-21-2003, 08:26 PM
hahaha.......yeah thats about the first time its been messy........well maybe you can convince my parents to give me some money as well, since I've paid for 90% of my gear my self.
Seraphim
07-21-2003, 08:28 PM
SealTeam, for being on a Seal team you sure have a messy room.
Could you buy me some gear, or ask your parents to buy me some gear, as it seems that you've got plenty o extra cash.
I'll return the favor by posting a pic of me wearing it in an exotic country. I know as a fellow operator you will assist me in my quest for better high speed gear.
Please send money to the national Association for the Advancement of Beowulf: high-speed gear assistance funds division.
All Best
beowulf
rofl
I'll send you a boonie hat. ;)
Piccolo
07-21-2003, 08:56 PM
VBSS, you do know that technicaly, the SWAT tag on your vest could be considered inpersonating a officer, right? Thats the legal end of the sword. Personaly, I think it's abit disrespectfull to the actuall SWAT members to wear it. SWAT is not a meaningless tag, it is something you have to earn. Apparently the 'SWAT' members you play with have no beef with it, but it is a crime. Infact, many persons and fields would ban such insignias (If the person is not fit to wear them - actual service member). Just my two cents on that subject.
PS. Bad trigger dicipline. ;)
SEALteamVBSS
07-21-2003, 09:03 PM
I never said it was a meaningless tag.....I bought it from www.blackhawkindustries.com so bug them about legalities, maybe they should require a badge number or proof that your a law enforcement officer. I don't do anything that would be remotely considered disrespecting it. Just my 2 cents
P.S. Not if your shooting at something ;)
Piccolo
07-21-2003, 09:46 PM
I never said it was a meaningless tag.....I bought it from www.blackhawkindustries.com so bug them about legalities, maybe they should require a badge number or proof that your a law enforcement officer.
Your logic is flawed, I'm sorry to say. Just because someone offers a service/product, does not give a person the right to abuse it. You made the choice to buy it. The fact that the product is actually manufactured is moot. Btw, your words didn't indicate that it was a meaningless tag to yourself, your action did. By wearing it, you insinuate that it is not worthy of respect and anyone who desires can so wear the tag, without even earning it.
I don't do anything that would be remotely considered disrespecting it.
You don't consider wearing a tag you didn't earn disrespectfull? I'm sure some would disagree. This is not much different, if any at all, then the posers who wear Ranger and SF Tab's they didn't earn.
Again, just my opinion.
ibstolidude
07-21-2003, 09:47 PM
I also tried that once when I got a speeding ticket I said, "hey give the ticket to the car dealer for selling me a car that goes above the speed limit."
but it didn't work
Piccolo
07-21-2003, 09:48 PM
LMAO, Stoli. Thank you.
rofl
SEALteamVBSS
07-21-2003, 09:49 PM
Well I wear it oh well, I never said I earned it, I know it didnt, but my money paid for it. It's called SIMULATION, you think i'm goin around tellin people i'm SWAT......I bought it because I wanna make my setup as real as it gets......hate to burst your bubble but i've got two LAPD SWAT patches in the mail as we speak.
ibstolidude
07-21-2003, 09:54 PM
as real as it gets?
when you ambush each other do you go there like 6 hours before so that by the time you initiate contact you are sitting in your own feces and urine?
Do you have like 6 hour movements to contact?
Do mission last weeks, days, hours with out break - or is it more of a game?- go out, run and gun and have fun - stop eat lunch - and have some more fun?
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 09:57 PM
I think it depends on the situation
If you wear real unit insignia such as real military/swat insignia for a Theatrical Recreations as in you are playing a game where you were the "swat" role or the "ranger" role it may be ok but it has to be in a very professional movie-like environment and seem extremely legit
If you wear real life insignia to play airsoft just to look cool during the games and/or claim you're a Ranger etc. then thats disrespectful-- If I was a Ranger and passed RIP and Ranger School to get my insidgnia and see some kid wearing it for a non-theatrical random dumb reason for everyday airsoft play I'd get pissed and would tell him how I felt about that--
Thats if I was only a follower in an organization----- However if I had my own team no one who didnt earn their real insignia will be allowed wearing insignia they dindt earn----- They'd just wear the airsoft team insignia and the standard USA flag
digitalghost
07-21-2003, 10:00 PM
as real as it gets?
when you ambush each other do you go there like 6 hours before so that by the time you initiate contact you are sitting in your own feces and urine?
Do you have like 6 hour movements to contact?
Do mission last weeks, days, hours with out break - or is it more of a game?- go out, run and gun and have fun - stop eat lunch - and have some more fun?
I cant say I appreaciate your attitude/negativity towards Airsoft. You know what we mean when we say "its as real as it gets" its just a saying, a phrase-- We dont claim to be 100% as real as real combat because everyone knows damn well its not like real combat--- Its just a saying and not something you should get all negative about
Yes you dont have some of the real aspects but you also have similarities between real life and airsoft such as the gear, tactics, weapons, missions etc. and thats enough for one to say that its close to real combat but just not right there at 100%
ScoutRanger
07-21-2003, 10:04 PM
http://www.specwargear.com/images/collector90-1.jpg
hehe
Piccolo
07-21-2003, 10:06 PM
It's nothing close to real combat, period. There are no if's and's or but's about it. The closest thing airsoft is, is a poor recreation of force on force training. The only real danger in airsoft someone might suffer from, is their own stupidity (IE - Falling Down, no eye protection,etc). I really can't believe some of you little dip****s around here. You are arguing something you have no first hand experience in, with a BTDT (Stoli, incase there was some confusion). That's kindof the definition of ignorant, I believe.
SEALteamVBSS
07-21-2003, 10:07 PM
thanks digital
ibstolidude
07-21-2003, 10:07 PM
Who said anything negative about airsoft?
I was asking a legit question? Anyone who has read my previous posts about airsoft would agree - I have yet to make fun of it.
I have asked previously about the amount of money spent on the weapons.
I can't make fun of airsoft as I know very little about it.
But training isn't real, but I suure have seen jumpers that have pissed themselves waiting as the bird circles, and have seen dudes **** inside of bags in vehicles; while training.
And my questions stands..How real is "almost real"?
SEALteamVBSS
07-21-2003, 10:23 PM
have u ever played piccolo?
Beowulf
07-21-2003, 10:28 PM
the question is: ...have you ever been in combat?
SEALteamVBSS
07-21-2003, 10:39 PM
i'm 17 years old....of course not, but piccolo you need to stop makin us look like trash because we play......I play, I have fun, i wear whatever patch i want and theres nothing you can do about it.
a. enders
07-21-2003, 10:45 PM
It's a game.Nothing more.It won't prepare you for combat any more than AA:O will.It's something meant to be fun.But,I hav to say,wearing the patch,tab,or colors of a military unit you aren't in is disrespectful.Grow up and put up if that's how you're going to be.
Beowulf
07-21-2003, 10:46 PM
I think airsoft could be fun, if i had the extra cash.
The point with the patches is a valid one...if you haven't earned it you shouldn't wear. Yeah there's no one on this board that can do anything about it.
That's up to you what you want to wear, but don't be surprised if people don't like it that you're wearing something that they may have actually earned through grueling effort...
-beowulf
Ichhabe
07-21-2003, 10:49 PM
Everyone take a chill pill in here now.
None of the Airsofters have claimed that Airsoft is like combat.
They say it is a game.
They know it is not real.
They know it is a game.
If some want to re-enact Civil War battles or Mogadishu or whatever... Let them do it.
It is a hobby. It is for fun. Seems like none of them think that they are the real McCoy.
Beowulf, asking if they have been in combat was rather silly. It is not for all to experience that, and have been in combat does not give you the right to judge what people want to do for their sparetime.
Piccolo
07-21-2003, 10:53 PM
i'm 17 years old....of course not, but piccolo you need to stop makin us look like trash because we play......I play, I have fun, i wear whatever patch i want and theres nothing you can do about it.
It's not the fact you airsoft in general (I have mentioned numerous times in the past I own airsoft weapons), but simply your outlook and disposition on the subject. Not to mention the whole patch thing.
Beowulf
07-21-2003, 11:01 PM
I asked b/c i believed there was some comparison btwn airsoft and combat going on , and I wanted to point out that unless you have done both then there should really not be any grounds for comparison.
For example
1: "dude apples suck...oranges are way better"
2: "have you ever had an apple?"
I just wanted to make that point (perhaps too subtly) before anyone went down that path.
ScoutRanger
07-22-2003, 12:29 AM
i'm 17 years old....of course not, but piccolo you need to stop makin us look like trash because we play......I play, I have fun, i wear whatever patch i want and theres nothing you can do about it.
Someone slap this kid.
SEALteamVBSS
07-22-2003, 12:34 AM
go for it
Ratamacue
07-22-2003, 12:37 AM
There's nothing really wrong with Airsoft, unless you're to the point that you think you're the real deal and wear SWAT, Special Forces, etc. patches and disrespect the real guys. I myself am a fan of airsoft, but I don't wear markings of any sort.
So don't bash airsoft, bash the idiots that play airsoft.
i would like to point out that not all people that play airsoft are idiots. only a select few.
liquidtiger720
07-22-2003, 12:50 AM
i agree, not all people that play airsoft are idiots. Airsoft has another use. they are for kids/young adults like myself (im 17) to learn gun safety and what not. i cannot yet purchase a real firearm, so what do i do? resort to airsoft. until im 21, ill stick with airsoft, because its legal for me. is that so bad? anyways. about the patch thing, i would say that people should decide for themselves if wearing it is disrespectful or not. many teams use the badges for thier own team "ranks" and "positions" and not because it says ranger or delta on it. i myself only have a subdued american flag.
oh yea, one more thing. when ur a kid like me, you have a lot of spare money because i dont have to pay for rent, bills, etc etc. if i ever need the money, airsoft is the first thing to go because its just a hobby just like paintball and any other hobby.
*sorry for the pointless post*
IronHeart_26
07-22-2003, 12:53 AM
:cantbeli:
Merik
07-22-2003, 01:14 AM
Someone slap this kid
What on earth calls for him being slapped? And why did you post that picture of a bunch of guys wearing combat gear when we dont know if it is real or airsoft? Help me out on this one.
Piccolo
07-22-2003, 01:18 AM
lol, there was a doubt in your mind that it wasn't airsoft, Merik? lmao, please. It links to specwargear.com, FYI. That site has a dedicated page for pictures of airsoft teams around the globe.
IronHeart_26
07-22-2003, 01:22 AM
I could be wrong, and I'm sure that I will be corrected if I am, but I think the picture is an airsoft picture.....one of the guys looks a little too gravitationaly challenged to be actual military.
liquidtiger720
07-22-2003, 01:37 AM
the goggles are the main tell tale sign..haha, and mish mash of gear.
ScoutRanger
07-22-2003, 01:55 AM
Someone slap this kid
What on earth calls for him being slapped? And why did you post that picture of a bunch of guys wearing combat gear when we dont know if it is real or airsoft? Help me out on this one.
i wear whatever patch i want and theres nothing you can do about it.
And you can trust me, those are elite aironerds.
Seraphim
07-22-2003, 03:23 AM
I could be wrong, and I'm sure that I will be corrected if I am, but I think the picture is an airsoft picture.....one of the guys looks a little too gravitationaly challenged to be actual military.
LoL "gravitationaly challenge" thats a good...plus I like that guys wood shop goggles.
Merik
07-22-2003, 03:45 AM
SealTeam, for being on a Seal team you sure have a messy room.
Could you buy me some gear, or ask your parents to buy me some gear, as it seems that you've got plenty o extra cash.
I'll return the favor by posting a pic of me wearing it in an exotic country. I know as a fellow operator you will assist me in my quest for better high speed gear.
Please send money to the national Association for the Advancement of Beowulf: high-speed gear assistance funds division.
All Best
beowulf
rofl
I'll send you a boonie hat. ;)
I'll take that boonie hat lol. I could use a woodland camo one at that too :lol: :hug:
digitalghost
07-22-2003, 02:59 PM
All I can say is that playing airsoft is fun. A good reason to play it is lets sa y you have a family but wont join the military because of the time spent away from family. You then seek other "military-related" outlets. Outlets such as airsoft, paintball, computer games, movies, books, action figures, etc. The "best" outlet is probably Airsoft.
One could buy a realistic weapon such as an M4, add some accesories to it such as M203, taclight, laser, Aimpoint Scope, etc. and its hard to tell the difference from the real thing:
http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/enhancedcarbine.jpg
http://www.airsoftextreme.com/aemax/enhanced.html
One could then either select a team to join or start their own team. They can buy almost 90% of the real gear that real soldiers use:
http://www.specwargear.com/images/collector131-1.jpg
http://www.specwargear.com/images/collector101-1.jpg
http://www.specwargear.com/images/collector%2064-3.jpg
http://www.specwargear.com/collectorcorner.html
All this stuff is FUN--- They can then play at local organized games or goto big national games: http://www.combatenterprises.com/events.htm
This is what i call the civilian military experience-- They have legit reasons for not joiing the mlitayr but still would like to have the "SECOND BEST THING" because what else out there would you consdier the second best thing in the overall military combat experiece? If your thinking real steel; YOu cant shoot people with real steel-- If your thinking MILES/Simunitions-- Civilians cant get them----- Besides, you'll also find lots of ex/current military playing airsoft--
So what exactly is the problem here?
Midtown
07-22-2003, 03:32 PM
Alot of the people that I play with are Former Military, we have people from Seal teams, to former Rangers/SF, and Army Reservists, They love the sport, I probably never would have considered joining the ARMY before I got into this sport and met these guys, Now half my team is looking into the ARMY as a option (I am going to enlist for sure, just wanna finish College first).
It's a great game if you have the $$, and if you dont like it, dont play, see if we care. Your loss, where else can you shoot your buddy with a M16 and not have him die?
My team doesnt wear any real Patches, only the American flag, and everything else is stuff I've designed. You can see partially the Patch on my Girlfriends left arm (shes wearing my Woodland BDU's, and old ALICE gear)
http://sofairsoft.com/girlie/smallcam4.jpg
We try to keep with a "Army" look, going more for the Ranger/Airborne/SF look.
Our team has a bad habit of going to Airsoft Operations with hangovers. But Those guys are some of my best buddies, I know I could trust em for anything.
We dont go around telling people We'r real army, or special forces, We keep that crap on the playing field. And with alot of you youngins that play, I would rather have them playing airsoft then using thier Older bro/dad's real gun.
And there are actual Injury's that occour, I have witnessed peoples teeth getting shot out of thier mouths, and one kid had a hole almost put thru his ear. I heard something about someone getting a BB up the nose, but i was laughing to hard to hear the rest of the story. There is room for injury like any sport. I had my head split open in a incident. (hence the reason why I picked up a Kevlar PASGT helmet instead of a 30$ replica)
Im not trying to start any crap with anyone, i Just thought id try to respectfully inform you of the way we play.
digitalghost
07-22-2003, 03:40 PM
I agree--- I seriously WOULD NOT have wanted to join US Army Airborne Infantry/Rangers/SF if it wasn't for airsoft-- Airsoft is also a way to introduce the military experience-- The Army is trying to get kids in by computer games like http://www.americasarmy.com which is supposedly the 2nd best military experience to those who dont know what airsoft is-----
Teeth injuries can be prevented by wearing a custom mouthguard
Ear injuries can be prevented by wearing those Peltor Ear Protection/Hearing enhancer
Nose? Paintball Mask-- But I'd rather just leave it naked
Midtown
07-22-2003, 05:20 PM
america's army is a good "look at what toys the ARMY has" game, It's fun, i played it for a while, but doesnt compare to actully being out there putting together stratagies, and hostage rescues, ect...typical airsoft stuff.
That games a great tool tho, if your lazy and dont like getting off your butt.
Some people like to shoot thier friends by double clicking, Ill take my airsoft gun anyday.
BTW i LOVE playing in thunderstorms, adds a really sweet atmosphere to the game.
digitalghost
07-22-2003, 05:24 PM
Thunderstorms eh? What do you wear? Gotta bust out that Gore-Tex!
California Joe
07-22-2003, 05:28 PM
"You'll shoot your eye out"
Did anyone write that already cause I didn't read the whole damned thing. that's all I could think of, Ralphie.
*going out to get on bike and pretending to win Tour de France*
digitalghost
07-22-2003, 05:36 PM
Paintball Masks/Military Goggles are utilized as Eye Protection
California Joe
07-22-2003, 05:39 PM
Thanks there Captain Obvious.
digitalghost
07-22-2003, 05:41 PM
You're quite welcome California Joe
Trigger
07-22-2003, 05:43 PM
:cantbeli:
....the horror.....the horror.... -Marlon Brando
Midtown
07-22-2003, 05:45 PM
I just wear my regular gear, I dont mind getting wet, muddy, snowed on, any of that crap. And I've had my gun fully submerged in water, and it still runs fine.
Durring a T-storm tho, I'll usually just throw my
-Woodland BDU's
-RACK
-Woodland Boonie
-Bolle X800 Customs.
-Waterproof Combat Boots
Winter on the other hand...
-Concrete Jungle BDU's, and A helluva lotta warm crap.
heres a few pics, most are a year old or so. (after game pictures)
http://sofairsoft.com/images/12-1-02pic.jpg
http://sofairsoft.com/images/sfplogo.jpg
http://sofairsoft.com/images/group-pic.jpg
http://sofairsoft.com/images/152003.jpg
http://sofairsoft.com/images/waco2.jpg
Dont ask about carrot holding a cooking tool on the far left, he's a bit differant (even tho he almost had a "spatula kill"
ScoutRanger
07-22-2003, 05:54 PM
Thanks there Captain Obvious.
ROFL!!!
Gringo
07-22-2003, 06:12 PM
http://sofairsoft.com/images/12-1-02pic.jpg
"I thought u guys said we were going play in a desert?!"
California Joe
07-22-2003, 06:15 PM
http://jeffsforums.com/roninjordan.jpg
I drew this chick and for some reason I think of her when I read "airsoft" :P
Beowulf
07-22-2003, 06:16 PM
101 uses for electrical tape...... :P
-b
Trigger
07-22-2003, 06:19 PM
...and the Academy Award for best use of the 'asterisk' key goes to...
Nice work Joe. woot
California Joe
07-22-2003, 06:24 PM
I figured our British pals would recognize her. They better dammit.
Not to take this thread off it's wonderful topic or anything......
Royal
07-22-2003, 06:25 PM
Miss Katie Price (Jordan)? Didn't recognise her with her clothes on!
California Joe
07-22-2003, 06:27 PM
Royal wins a cookie. Heh.
Britains favorite export since Bass Ale.
Chris1
07-22-2003, 06:45 PM
yeah, more people have had Jordan than Bass :D
USAF G
07-22-2003, 10:46 PM
Ironheart,
I am so sorry for what has become of your question. Please, don't blame yourself. How were you to know what would happen once you mentioned the A word? ;)
a. enders
07-22-2003, 11:44 PM
http://jeffsforums.com/roninjordan.jpg
I drew this chick and for some reason I think of her when I read "airsoft" :P
Don't think anything's soft after that.
Nawlins
07-22-2003, 11:56 PM
...and the women are leaving the room... :cantbeli:
*boys*
a. enders
07-23-2003, 12:00 AM
*cough*Sorry.Joke had to be made of course.
IronHeart_26
07-23-2003, 01:50 AM
Oh, what a tangled web I've woven!
So, is the tape there to keep her from deflating??? Not only can she get the guys in here in their upright position.....but she can also be used as a flotation device!(She must be on SEAL Team 6!) Boys and their ****ies! I'm sure it will occupy some of the airsofters for a while.
I promise to never, ever, ever, bring up the "A" word again. All this from one little question.
'Night boys......don't hurt yourselves
ScoutRanger
07-23-2003, 02:10 AM
'Night boys......don't hurt yourselves
To late... =(
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