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Dragunov
04-14-2009, 03:04 AM
April 13, 2009 - 8:54 PM
By Antonio Baranda, Reforma Agency
Mexico DF-During the administration of Mexican President Felipe Calderon, the agencies in charge of fighting organized crime have seized 35,943 firearms from the drug cartels, or a yearly average of 15,400 weapons.

This latest figure is five times larger that the yearly average reached during the presidency of Vicente Fox whose agencies seized 2,500 weapons yearly between 2002 and 2006.

The official report "Mexico-U.S. Arms Trafficking 2009" states that between Dec. 1, 2006 and March 26, 2009, the Attorney General's Office (PGR), the Federal Police, The Mexican Army and the Mexican Navy also seized 4,772,517 rounds of ammunition and 2,804 grenades.

"During President Calderon's government, there has been an intense effort to cut the capacity to generate violence for the groups in organized crime," according to the document, which was presented during U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's visit to Mexico.

The states of Michoacan, Tamaulipas, Sinaloa, Sonora, Baja California and Chihuahua are where the most long rifles were seized during Calderon's first 28 months in office. The government uses joint taskforces between the army, the local police and the federal police in these areas to combat the cartels.

According to the report, one of every two weapons seized were long guns, with the majority of them being assault rifles such as the AK-47 or the AR-15, of which 19,801 were seized.

As far as ammunition, the states with the most seizures were Tamaulipas, Baja California, Michoacan, Sonora, Sinaloa and Chihuahua; in regards to grenades, the states were Tamaulipas, Michoacan, Chiapas, Sinaloa and Nuevo Leon.

During the current presidency, the drug cartel that has been damaged the most is the Gulf-Zeta's cartel, noted in the report for their use of special weapons with high versatility, reach, penetration and rate of fire.

From this organization, the government has also seized anti-tank rockets, rocket launchers, grenade launchers, fragmentation grenades, Barrett rifles, and also "next generation" weapons such as the FN Herstal Five-Seven.

The report states that the Arellano Felix cartel came in second place in regards to conventional and special firearms seizures.
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/articles/seized_96896___article.html/weapons_report.html

Zarak
04-14-2009, 03:14 AM
anti-tank rockets, rocket launchers, grenade launchers, fragmentation grenades...

I heard the United States was going to ban these since so many of them wind up in Mexico. I, as an American, am ashamed of what we're doing to your country.

62ECHO
04-14-2009, 03:17 AM
I heard the United States was going to ban these since so many of them wind up in Mexico. I, as an American, am ashamed of what we're doing to your country.

You mean I can't buy that AT-4 I was saving for?

Dragunov
04-14-2009, 03:17 AM
I heard the United States was going to ban these since so many of them wind up in Mexico. I, as an American, am ashamed of what we're doing to your country.

I personally don't blame the USA for it. It's just criminals taking advantage of your gun traditions.

Brasi
04-14-2009, 03:30 AM
Crap, frag grenades are off my Christmas list then.:roll:

Chulo
04-14-2009, 09:35 AM
I heard the United States was going to ban these since so many of them wind up in Mexico. I, as an American, am ashamed of what we're doing to your country.
aww that sucks! i was going to get me a 6pack of frags and an AT rocket for the BBQ this weekend with my redneck friends and blow me up some injuns


I mean.. WTF!? these are not things you can go and just buy. And why dont you get some cojenes and be angry at what the millions of illegal Mexicans are doing to "your country"

Panchito12
04-14-2009, 01:30 PM
Well perhaps our hermanos South of the Border will bring'um up to VA to one of our gun shows 'cause I sure would love to take a look at the "liberated" inventory for a nice little purchase. I don't mind second-hand weps.

62ECHO
04-14-2009, 04:18 PM
I heard the United States was going to ban these since so many of them wind up in Mexico. I, as an American, am ashamed of what we're doing to your country.

Guys I think he was being sarcastic (I hope!), he just forgot the rofl at the end.

Zarak
04-14-2009, 04:25 PM
Guys I think he was being sarcastic (I hope!), he just forgot the rofl at the end.

Its not as funny if one has to point out they're being sarcastic.

brainplay
04-14-2009, 07:05 PM
While gun seizures are nice, I wouldn't mind seeing this kind of personell seizures instead. Maybe a drug lord or two. Maybe a few JDAM drops (or whatever the Mexican air force can afford).

Dang, looking at that laundry list makes me drool. I mean I wouldn't care if it came from Argentinia or Columbia if I could get an M-16 class of weapon for as cheap as they seem to be selling them to Mexico. Its like a fire sale or something.

richi
04-17-2009, 09:50 AM
Its not as funny if one has to point out they're being sarcastic.

Itīs not funny.

richi
04-17-2009, 09:53 AM
aww that sucks! i was going to get me a 6pack of frags and an AT rocket for the BBQ this weekend with my redneck friends and blow me up some injuns


I mean.. WTF!? these are not things you can go and just buy. And why dont you get some cojenes and be angry at what the millions of illegal Mexicans are doing to "your country"

Do you mean Hispanics? Because it is not only Mexicans crossing.

Geezah
04-17-2009, 11:41 AM
Do you mean Hispanics? Because it is not only Mexicans crossing.

But the majority are Mexican, as the Mexicans on their Southern Border do not share the love when they encourage their Homie's to break the law and go North to the land of opportunity.

Geezah
04-17-2009, 11:47 AM
Here's a nice Beta-C.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9008/73112367pg9.jpg

Short barrel M4?

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1544/70125136bd7.jpg

Interesting posts here.


I contribute on my own way, to put pictures of the hedious mexican police is just tacky. This is military photos.net, not armedforces.net.

Wuy should a bunch of corrupt and tacky wannabeinstitutions wich by the way mantain a constant lack of credibility among mexicans should be shown in as if they were hard workers, honest and trustable? theyre not, mexican peple dont trust them, they fear them and donīt respect them, they dont like them. They dont deserve to be shown up in that way and even less with militar subjects wich is totaly the other way arround.


Im sorry about both of you. But in the mexican way is just a good apple in a basket of rottens.

I have the right to make my point on the mexican police corruption and general population fear and dislike. And the right to tell everybody that those pics reflect everything but the real behaviour and reality of Mexican police institutions. Since members of my family have been kidnaped and tortured by police I earned that right to complain to mark and to tell. Now they lived in Georgia. Thats one hell of an add for mexican police isnīt it?

Just remember: This thread is not only for you to use man.

Thatīs all I have to say about this.

Does this M16 with M203 look like it is select fire?
http://www.pgr.gob.mx/cmsocial/bol07/feb/F-068-2.JPG

They sure do like their M4s over there in Mexico.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7738/54564599fa1.jpg
http://www.pgr.gob.mx/cmsocial/bol07/feb/F-068-3.JPG

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6429/543534535ld0.jpg

Sure is funny that they keep on confiscating firearms that the Police Departments use....


With the huge number of AR15s being seized surely this would throw up a flag to the manufacturers?

I personally believe it is corrupt Mexican Government Officials supplying arms to the cartels, because alot of the arms look like the ones used by the Mexican Marines and LE.