Israeli undercover SF in action OHHH

[UoUo]

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woot

From today riots.

[Lt_Crooks]

ok .. i mean i really dont like the things that the palestinians do, suicide bombings , etc, I know it was there fault for loosing there "land" in israel by trying to be to greedy. but sometimes it seems that the israelis maybe sometimes terrorize the people, I have seen pictures of israelis beating unarmed people, i mean they just invade, Everytime there is a problem in israel It seems like israel is on the offensive

[Dennis G]

If the Palestinians put down their weapons, there would be peace and a Palestinian state. If Israel puts down its weapons, there will no longer be an Israel

[UoUo]

ok .. i mean i really dont like the things that the palestinians do, suicide bombings , etc, I know it was there fault for loosing there "land" in israel by trying to be to greedy. but sometimes it seems that the israelis maybe sometimes terrorize the people, I have seen pictures of israelis beating unarmed people, i mean they just invade, Everytime there is a problem in israel It seems like israel is on the offensive

WTF?

"Semms" it's the key word.

[Lt_Crooks]

i can tell you this though , who is putting up fences? barging into innocent peoples homes ?Who ruining innocent peoples lives ? Who kills children in there bombings? I dont care if they dont share the same faith as me the point is they are humans just like you and me. Now I am mot saying that all the palestinians are upstanding people , but i think that ISRAEL should make the example of how to get along. I think they should just give the palestinians their OWN state and (split it back how it was before) and let them govern themselves. Really are innocent lives worth land? Ok you say the land is holy,it is also holy to the muslims , JUST SHARE :hug:

[UoUo]

i can tell you this though , who is putting up fences? barging into innocent peoples homes ?Who ruining innocent peoples lives ? Who kills children in there bombings? I dont care if they dont share the same faith as me the point is they are humans just like you and me. Now I am mot saying that all the palestinians are upstanding people , but i think that ISRAEL should make the example of how to get along. I think they should just give the palestinians their OWN state and (split it back how it was before) and let them govern themselves. Really are innocent lives worth land? Ok you say the land is holy,it is also holy to the muslims , JUST SHARE :hug:

The answers to all of your questions are very simple palstinians

We don't "barging" innocent peoples homes we on;y demolished house that terroists hide in them..or homes of terrorists.

we built fence to prevent terorrist get into Israel.

The palstinians could get thier own ****ing country years ago...but they are to stupaid...they want all and the "right of retrun" they not gonna get that.

[gilgoul]

i can tell you this though , who is putting up fences? barging into innocent peoples homes ?Who ruining innocent peoples lives ? Who kills children in there bombings? I dont care if they dont share the same faith as me the point is they are humans just like you and me. Now I am mot saying that all the palestinians are upstanding people , but i think that ISRAEL should make the example of how to get along. I think they should just give the palestinians their OWN state and (split it back how it was before) and let them govern themselves. Really are innocent lives worth land? Ok you say the land is holy,it is also holy to the muslims , JUST SHARE :hug:

Please don`t let yourself being a propaganda puppet.
As for sharing, we accepted such a sharing in november 1947, rejected by the arabs who attacked the yet to be born jewish state embryo, then the state of Israel once formed in may 48.
Sharign and withdrawing was also an option after the 56 occupation of Sinai and withdrawal.
Again in 73, 82, 85 and 1994 did we withdraw from land occupied after arab aggressions.
So when you talk about sharing, it`s a little simplistic, and good intention doesn`t make good reality.
Last point, the state of Israel covers 7800 sq miles without the "occupied territories", you`ll have to add 2200 sq mi for the west bank and 140 sq mi for gaza, so a total of 10 140 sq miles, so just look at a map, locate well Israel because it`s kind of hard (it`s so small), take a look at the arab world from Mauritania at the west to Irak to the East, and tell me who has a problem with sharing land and granting securty to it`s minorities.

[pretorian669]

i can tell you this though , who is putting up fences? barging into innocent peoples homes ?... :hug:
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7343/7343987.jpg

An Iraqi woman and her children leave their home as U.S troops from the First Infantry Division enter the building during search for weapons in Baqouba, Iraq Saturday June 26, 2004
Are Americans as "evil" as us too?

You'll be amazed of the things I found in homes of "innocent people"
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/TOM/Image81.jpg

DON'T BE NAIVE !!!! :petting:

[Robert_Mo]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

[tacticalmanta]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

[Xingbake]

I doubt if this nation enmity will be ended someday.

[Moledet]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?
They mostly attacked other gangs and the british police and army, the Palestinians try to hurt Israeli civilians.

BTW, this discussion is about the under cover israeli soldiers, they live with the terrorsits, they are acting like they are their friends and than one day they arrest/kill them, pretty impresive IMO.

[Robert_Mo]

i can tell you this though , who is putting up fences? barging into innocent peoples homes ?Who ruining innocent peoples lives ? Who kills children in there bombings? I dont care if they dont share the same faith as me the point is they are humans just like you and me. Now I am mot saying that all the palestinians are upstanding people , but i think that ISRAEL should make the example of how to get along. I think they should just give the palestinians their OWN state and (split it back how it was before) and let them govern themselves. Really are innocent lives worth land? Ok you say the land is holy,it is also holy to the muslims , JUST SHARE :hug:

The answers to all of your questions are very simple palstinians

We don't "barging" innocent peoples homes we on;y demolished house that terroists hide in them..or homes of terrorists.

we built fence to prevent terorrist get into Israel.

The palstinians could get thier own f*** country years ago...but they are to stupaid...they want all and the "right of retrun" they not gonna get that.

It seems the same way of thinking of honest germans during Holocaust.
We don't kill innocent people, but jews are terrorists and traitors, we don't thief honest citizens, but we take every thing to jews because they are thiefs and criminals.

[Robert_Mo]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?
They mostly attacked other gangs and the british police and army, the Palestinians try to hurt Israeli civilians.

BTW, this discussion is about the under cover israeli soldiers, they live with the terrorsits, they are acting like they are their friends and than one day they arrest/kill them, pretty impresive IMO.

Folke Bernadotte was a Brittish soldier?
He was the presidento of red Cross, and during WWII tried to help Jews.
For me, Irgun and Stern were worst than Al Qaeda!

[Robert_Mo]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

Perhaps. but I see palestinian children starving and being killed by israeli soldiers!
So if a terrorist from a determined nation commites an shame act (as terrorists of every time, colour and religion commite)he does not rapresent his people, but if an Army of a country commites a terrorist act, it covers with shame this nation.

[Robert_Mo]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

Irgun and Stern were not terrorist organizations?
Pardon me Sir, but they were not better than Al Qaeda. Killed innocent people, attacked legitime governments etc.

[mack pl]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

Irgun and Stern were not terrorist organizations?
Pardon me Sir, but they were not better than Al Qaeda. Killed innocent people, attacked legitime governments etc.

don't banish me boys, but its first link which I found in google when I write-"Irgun zwei leumi"
http://www.palestinehistory.com/massacre.htm

[its not flame] :|

[IDFM203]

The top pics in this thread I see nothing wrong with it, but of course when some see Jews acting in self defense, a right that we never really had before, well I see some just cant except that notion :roll: ………to bad, that’s your problem not mine!! :D



Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

Two quick BIG differences,

First is that besides some incidents, the rest were mostly only against MILITARY targets.

Second BIG difference, is that MOST Jews then and now were against their actions and also they were a small minorty, which is unlike the Pali terrorists groups that is much larger and they target mostly only civilians with the large support of the pali society.


For me, Irgun and Stern were worst than Al Qaeda! :cantbeli: So you don’t like them, fine, but comparing them to al qida is just absurd :roll:

Heck I didn’t like the Brits actions then, though I too reject some Jews claims that they were like the Nazi’s, even if some of their actions were like them.


Shalom :D

[tacticalmanta]

Irgun is no better than Al Qaeda? Now if those are not the words of an ignorant Antisemite, if ever I have read them.

[Robert_Mo]

Irgun is no better than Al Qaeda? Now if those are not the words of an ignorant Antisemite, I ever I have read them.

Gentleman, it is strange how you run to use the word antisemite.
IRA is catholic but is terrorist as Al Qaeda.
Or israeli and jew terrorist are untouchable?

[tacticalmanta]

The point is the Irgun it not a terroist organisation of any stretch of the imagination. Any these statements lead people like you to believe that they are.. which is the problem with the statement in the first place.

You could argue Stern/ Lehi was a terrorist organisation, but they pale in comparison to anything today.

[Robert_Mo]

The point is the Irgun it not a terroist organisation of any stretch of the imagination. Any these statements lead people like you to believe that they are.. which is the problem with the statement in the first place.

You could argue Stern/ Lehi was a terrorist organisation, but they pale in comparison to anything today.


So OLP of Arafat is a legitime organization fighting for his peoples rights?

The men of resistance again nazizm were terrorists for nazis, but freedom fighters for others, (me included).
It's only question of points of view, but I think Israeli does not want the peace.
The open provocation of Sharon with his visit to Place of the Mosques, that made explode the second intifada, Barak that was put down and Barak was achieving the peace, etc etc.
Some other facts as the position of Sharon in defence industry that gains great money by war, the corruption of Sharon's son that used the influence of his father for sme kind of bussines.
I have a great consideration for the Jewish people, and I feel a sense of fault for what jews suffred by Christians, but thi don't stop me to say what I really think. However some Jews, the first momet you say things they don't like, however true (as some of the greatest terrorists and dictators of the story were Jews) they run to say ignorant antisemit.

[mack pl]

Irgun is no better than Al Qaeda? Now if those are not the words of an ignorant Antisemite, I ever I have read them.

Gentleman, it is strange how you run to use the word antisemite.
IRA is catholic but is terrorist as Al Qaeda.
Or israeli and jew terrorist are untouchable?

BTW Arabs and Jews are semit both.

[tacticalmanta]

The point is the Irgun it not a terroist organisation of any stretch of the imagination. Any these statements lead people like you to believe that they are.. which is the problem with the statement in the first place.

You could argue Stern/ Lehi was a terrorist organisation, but they pale in comparison to anything today.


So OLP of Arafat is a legitime organization fighting for his peoples rights?

The men of resistance again nazizm were terrorists for nazis, but freedom fighters for others, (me included).
It's only question of points of view, but I think Israeli does not want the peace.
The open provocation of Sharon with his visit to Place of the Mosques, that made explode the second intifada, Barak that was put down and Barak was achieving the peace, etc etc.
Some other facts as the position of Sharon in defence industry that gains great money by war, the corruption of Sharon's son that used the influence of his father for sme kind of bussines.
I have a great consideration for the Jewish people, and I feel a sense of fault for what jews suffred by Christians, but thi don't stop me to say what I really think. However some Jews, the first momet you say things they don't like, however true (as some of the greatest terrorists and dictators of the story were Jews) they run to say ignorant antisemit.


Arafat is Egyptian. Which legitimate country is he fighting for???

[tacticalmanta]

Irgun is no better than Al Qaeda? Now if those are not the words of an ignorant Antisemite, I ever I have read them.

Gentleman, it is strange how you run to use the word antisemite.
IRA is catholic but is terrorist as Al Qaeda.
Or israeli and jew terrorist are untouchable?

BTW Arabs and Jews are semit both.

OK, breaking with standard usage. That is an ignorant anti-Jewish comment that could only be made by a complete idiot or a NAZI.

[haze99]

As for this entire topic, (personal observation) I find it quite interesting, that the Palestinians have police and "security" forces, but do not seem to prempt attacks from taking place. What good are they and why would you have them, if you cannot curb attacks into the territory of Israel? (Nor do they seem to be able to blunt the flow of Egyptian arms into Gaza) If they would do their job, the IDF would not have to raid any houses. But, since they can't or won't, they are useless. (same for Mexican Border Police)
Hey, maybe they (Palestinian Police) are productive, but knowing the agenda of the world media, they won't report these positive stories.
So folks, how much land do the Israeli's need to give up? If they give anymore, their won't be an Israel!
What has Yasser given up for peace, anyone? I thought so, he has given up nothing!! Other than, other peoples children!

[LongWay]

Irgun is no better than Al Qaeda? Now if those are not the words of an ignorant Antisemite, I ever I have read them.

Gentleman, it is strange how you run to use the word antisemite.
IRA is catholic but is terrorist as Al Qaeda.
Or israeli and jew terrorist are untouchable?

BTW Arabs and Jews are semit both.

OK, breaking with standard usage. That is an ignorant anti-Jewish comment that could only be made by a complete idiot or a NAZI.

Ah Alot of people hate The Jews i hate alot of people who believe in religion woohoo go the propaganda.

[S'13]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

Irgun and Stern were not terrorist organizations?
Pardon me Sir, but they were not better than Al Qaeda. Killed innocent people, attacked legitime governments etc.

Irgun only targeted military targets and so it can't be regarded as a terrorist organization. If compering the Irgun to Al-Qaeda makes you feel good then so be it, it just shows your ignorance...

[SpikeATGM]

BTW, this discussion is about the under cover israeli soldiers, they live with the terrorsits, they are acting like they are their friends and than one day they arrest/kill them, pretty impresive IMO.


I the agents arab Israeli? Else how would the could they possibly hide their jewish identity?

[tacticalmanta]

BTW, this discussion is about the under cover israeli soldiers, they live with the terrorsits, they are acting like they are their friends and than one day they arrest/kill them, pretty impresive IMO.


I the agents arab Israeli? Else how would the could they possibly hide their jewish identity?

Didn't you know, all of US Jews have our holy birthmark under our arms, so no one can see.

[Yosy]

Israel is occupying another country. It should return to the Green Line frontiers (pre-1967). That's all there is to it.

Irgun WAS a terrorist organization. David Ben-Gurion even arrested some of its members, when they got out of hand. Hagana was a true resistance movement.

As for the photos: they are probably members of Sayeret Duvdevan

[S'13]

Israel is occupying another country.


And which country would that be? :|


Irgun WAS a terrorist organization. Hagana was a true resistance movement. David Ben-Gurion even arrested some of its members, when they got out of hand.

The Hagnah and the Irgun had separate ideologies and each wanted to have more influece over the Yeshuv, so it was only natural that both orgenizations had confrontations.

[b.scheller]

Ugh, some of the people here must get some reading done. Who ever said that the Israeli's dont want to make peace hasn't ever touched a book on the subject. The Israeli's have won most of its major wars, minus a few that were stalemates. They had gained all of the Sinai desert, the Golan Heights, they once controlled the Gaza and the west bank. So if the Israeli's wanted war, why would they decide to generously give it back to the neighbours that had attacked them?

Anyway, although most terrorist organizations will never admit to this. Most Palestinians in the past, I'm not sure about now have believed that they are merely a province of Syria.

[S'13]

Ugh, some of the people here must get some reading done. Who ever said that the Israeli's dont want to make peace hasn't ever touched a book on the subject. The Israeli's have won most of its major wars, minus a few that were stalemates. They had gained all of the Sinai desert, the Golan Heights, they once controlled the Gaza and the west bank. So if the Israeli's wanted war, why would they decide to generoulsy give it back to the neighbours that had attacked them?

True, sadly some people won't let facts get in the way of their rant...

[oldsoak]

Israel is occupying another country.


And which country would that be? :|


Irgun WAS a terrorist organization. Hagana was a true resistance movement. David Ben-Gurion even arrested some of its members, when they got out of hand.

The Hagnah and the Irgun had separate ideologies and each wanted to have more influece over the Yeshuv, so it was only natural that both orgenizations had confrontations.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought the Haganah sought to examine ithe morality of its actions ie its decisions were based on more than just military or political expediency. The Irgun, was prepared to be more ruthless.

[Lt_Crooks]

there is a whole lot of diffrence between the U.S. going into an iraqi home and israelis going into a palestinian homes, the americans go into homes because their is a war going on. The israelites go into arabs homes because of the arabs CREED. Someone from israel, tell me when was the last attack by the palestinians on israelites?Now i do know that the land was lost by the palestinians out of greed, but how many YEARS ago was that ! Israelis are ALWAYS on the offensive when the arabs have a simple protest the israelites shoot at them, rubber bullets or not it is not right, all of the the strikes that israel has aimed at killing arab leaders , israel deserves what it gets . I also believe the ISRAEL is single-handedly responsible for septemeber 11th

[S'13]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought the Haganah sought to examine ithe morality of its actions ie its decisions were based on more than just military or political expediency. The Irgun, was prepared to be more ruthless.

It is true that the Haganah was more moderate. That is the main reason the Irgun was created in the first place, since it was founded by a group of Haganah commanders, who left the Haganah in protest against its defense charter, the new orginization was ideologically linked with the Revisionist Movement (Vladimir Jabotinsky was its leader).

[S'13]

there is a whole lot of diffrence between the U.S. going into an iraqi home and israelis going into a palestinian homes, the americans go into homes because their is a war going on. The israelites go into arabs homes because of the arabs CREED.


rofl :cantbeli:

I guess you never heard of suicied bombings and other forms of Palestinian terrorism.

I knew that there are people who live in their own little made up world where even if the U.S bombs mosques it's ok but when IDF search for weapons and terrorists in civilian homes it is a crime.

However I had no idea that for some people it was that bad...


Someone from israel, tell me when was the last attack by the palestinians on israelites?

About 30 minutes ago...

We owe the decrease in terror attacks to the IDF operations.


all of the the strikes that israel has aimed at killing arab leaders

"Arab leaders" I will remember that the next time an Al-Qaida terrorist is nailed by the U.S. :roll:

Hey! I have an idea let's all call Bin-Laden an "Arab leader". :cantbeli:


I also believe the ISRAEL is single-handedly responsible for septemeber 11th

You have just struck the last nail in your coffin as far as it goes for your reputation here...

[pretorian669]

Dear Lt_Crooks
I have a question for you. Please try to answer it honestly.
If you had to make a choice between spending two weeks in an israeli prison or a palestinian one,wich one would you choose?
(this question solved me a few arguments in the past)
Think about it for a minute and please answer honestly.

[Yosy]

What Palestine is doing is resistance to the invasion. Some call it terrorism: but it's Israel's fault that the IDF soldiers died. Israel put the palestinians into a corner: palestinian kids see their houses being destroyed, their fathers being arrested, etc. The palestinians live without honor. They have resorted to violance because they don't have any other choice. They would rather go down like a martyr than live in the conditions that they live daily. Israel makes daily violations of basic human rights. Israel lost all the moral high ground that had before the 6-Day War.

[b.scheller]

What invasion? What the hell you talking about? Palestine was never a country. It was a British mandate, before that it was a Syrian province. The Israelites have given the Palestinians their own land, and they still complain (because they want the rest of Israel).

How come Kurds have not turn to violence? They have been living in different nations under different regimes and they are probably the most opressed people's in the Middle East. How come they're not blowing up innocent civilians in public places?

Anyway, please who ever used the I.R.A example. Don't ever try to compare the I.R.A to the Palestinian terrorist organizations. First of all the I.R.A had a totally different agenda, sure they fought for freedom of Northern Ireland but they did it in a completely different manner. They did not blow up civilian targets, sure they caused alot of damage but their cause was different. Perhaps more justifiable. They fought against British troops and politicians.

UGH...this topic makes me really angry

[S'13]

What Palestine is doing is resistance to the invasion.

Since when is the bombing of resturants, buses and markets thought to be resistance?

If the Palestinians would only attack military targets I would see your point but almost all of their attacks are against civilians.

Also take into consideration the fact that Hamas and Islamic-Jihad, the two strongest Palestinian terrorist orginizations are aimed at destroying Israel...

You have yet to answer my question, what country are we occupying?

[b.scheller]

exactly S'13. Thats what I tried to get at...

anyway, ive honestly have never been so mad; that my hands started shaking when i was typing...UGH...

[AirZone]

exactly S'13. Thats what I tried to get at...

anyway, ive honestly have never been so mad; that my hands started shaking when i was typing...UGH... :hug: dont be mad... think what we need eat from the ignorace jew/israel haters everyday that are being fed by lies and think everything is black&white :| :roll: but i guess you get used to it.. hell most of the forum members are smart and know who is causing the real problem (the evil zioinsts of course :roll:)

but hey Lt_Crooks..mossad is responsible to 11/9 (but you never knew that we the Israelis really knew what is a real terrorists act and we felt a real sympathy and wanted to give our full support to the victims..i remember we were so pissed and mad)! yeah the mossad recruited the arb terrorists and helped them and trained them... like duh?! :roll:

anyway im not going to waste my time to one minded person...
but lets say it like this most of the israeli just want peace thats why we are going to give gaza while many palastines want to destory Israel (and many others just want quiet and to work and give food to thier familes but each time we try to let them another terrorist is blowing up and we close the borders)

[S'13]

exactly S'13. Thats what I tried to get at...

anyway, ive honestly have never been so mad; that my hands started shaking when i was typing...UGH...

Don't wast your health on this mate... :)

I'm happy to see that there are more reasonable people here. ;)

[Moledet]

What Palestine is doing is resistance to the invasion. Some call it terrorism: but it's Israel's fault that the IDF soldiers died. Israel put the palestinians into a corner: palestinian kids see their houses being destroyed, their fathers being arrested, etc. The palestinians live without honor. They have resorted to violance because they don't have any other choice. They would rather go down like a martyr than live in the conditions that they live daily. Israel makes daily violations of basic human rights. Israel lost all the moral high ground that had before the 6-Day War.
Palestinians are number 98 in life condition quality, there are 22 countries after them, still I don't see people from this 22 countries blowing themself up.

P.S. Whoever started the stupid discussion (not the photos), go and open a thread in the discussion forum and not here, that's not the right place for such a discussion.

BTW, the Palestinian terorrists are doing a lot of troubles to the civilian population, they take them as hostages, they rob them, they threat them and sometimes kill them because of "pride" issues and because they don't want to listen to them. They are not brave as you think they are.

And the Italian guy, you are an ass, but i'm not surprised, after seeing polls from your country that show that your nation is almost totaly crazy and antisemitic. I will never forget a report from Italy that in it there were few israeli civilians that held signs that calls for peace while in the Italian translation it was written:"Death to arabs".

[Yosy]

What invasion? What the hell you talking about? Palestine was never a country

Then what was the name of the occupied territories that were independent from Israel from 1948 to 1967?



How come Kurds have not turn to violence? They have been living in different nations under different regimes and they are probably the most opressed people's in the Middle East. How come they're not blowing up innocent civilians in public places?

What? The Kurds never turned to violance? They did against Saddam, they did terrorist attacks in Turkey. What do you call that?


Since when is the bombing of resturants, buses and markets thought to be resistance?

Algeria did that against the french and we call it resistance.


Also take into consideration the fact that Hamas and Islamic-Jihad, the two strongest Palestinian terrorist orginizations are aimed at destroying Israel...

You have yet to answer my question, what country are we occupying?

PLO already accepted the existance of Israel and it is willing to live alongside it. The other organizatinons are more radical. We can't judge all palestinians for the actions of the radicals. It's like judging all israelis for the actions of the religious fanatics and settlers.

OK then: Israel is occupying territories (Gaza Strip, West Bank) that don't belong to it and are the house of people with a different culture from that of the israelis- aka just like occupying a country. And Palestine WAS a country from 1948 to 1967.

[b.scheller]

Could the moderator please close this topic. Its getting out of hand, with so many ignorant people running around and posting uneducated comments...

[Moledet]

What invasion? What the hell you talking about? Palestine was never a country

Then what was the name of the occupied territories that were independent from Israel from 1948 to 1967?



How come Kurds have not turn to violence? They have been living in different nations under different regimes and they are probably the most opressed people's in the Middle East. How come they're not blowing up innocent civilians in public places?

What? The Kurds never turned to violance? They did against Saddam, they did terrorist attacks in Turkey. What do you call that?


Since when is the bombing of resturants, buses and markets thought to be resistance?

Algeria did that against the french and we call it resistance.


Also take into consideration the fact that Hamas and Islamic-Jihad, the two strongest Palestinian terrorist orginizations are aimed at destroying Israel...

You have yet to answer my question, what country are we occupying?

PLO already accepted the existance of Israel and it is willing to live alongside it. The other organizatinons are more radical. We can't judge all palestinians for the actions of the radicals. It's like judging all israelis for the actions of the religious fanatics and settlers.

OK then: Israel is occupying territories (Gaza Strip, West Bank) that don't belong to it and are the house of people with a different culture from that of the israelis- aka just like occupying a country. And Palestine WAS a country from 1948 to 1967.
From 1948-1967 the disputed terriorities were controlled by Egypt and Jordan, Jordan killed 10,000 Palestinians and Egypt killed 2,000.
In 1967 Israel attacked Egypt, and then Syria and Jordan started attacking Israel, in response Israel attacked Jordan and Syria back and took control over the Golan hights, Sinai desert and the west bank. In 1979 when Israel signed the peace with Egypt we offered to return them the Gaza strip but they refused. In 1996 when the peace with Jordan was signed Jordan didn't mention the west bank as part of the agreement, thus they didn't want it back, so it's Israel's territory because both Jordan and Egypt decided not to take it back.

There's a bigger support for the terror organization like Hamas and the Tanzim in Gaza than the amount of support the PLO has (PLO less than 30% while Fatah and Hamas has 50% support, the rest support the Islamic jihad and the popular front, both are terror organizations).

[Mr. Nielsen]

OK then: Israel is occupying territories (Gaza Strip, West Bank) that don't belong to it and are the house of people with a different culture from that of the israelis- aka just like occupying a country. And Palestine WAS a country from 1948 to 1967.

Basicly the area allocated by the UN to the palestinians in 1948, were invaded and occupied by Israel, Egypt and Jordan. So technically the palestinians didn't have a government. And I think that might be a part of the definition of a country or state. Perhaps the right term is calling them a nation

[Yosy]

Could the moderator please close this topic. Its getting out of hand, with so many ignorant people running around and posting uneducated comments...

That's a flame, and if you don't have anything better to say just shut the **** up! :bash:



Perhaps the right term is calling them a nation

Perhaps yeah. The Palestine nation is is then.

[S'13]

Then what was the name of the occupied territories that were independent from Israel from 1948 to 1967?


:lol:

These territories wer never independet, they were either under the control of Egypt or under the control of Jordan.

There has never been a state called "Palestine".


Algeria did that against the french and we call it resistance.

When Algerians were attacking French civilians it was terrorism, not resistance...


PLO already accepted the existance of Israel and it is willing to live alongside it.

Yet they keep on engaging in terrorism. Actions are stronger than words you know...

Also when an organization like Hamas gets a lot of support from the Palestinian public while its charter calls for the ditruction of Israel, well... It doesn't look very good to us Israelis.



The other organizatinons are more radical. We can't judge all palestinians for the actions of the radicals. It's like judging all israelis for the actions of the religious fanatics and settlers.

However a great majority of Israelis do not support fanatics while the Palestinians do.


And Palestine WAS a country from 1948 to 1967.

Open a history book, there was never a Palestine. The West Bank and the Gaza Strip were under the control of Egypt and Jordan, even the Palestinians will tell you that.

[S'13]

Perhaps yeah. The Palestine nation is is then.

The notion that the Palestinians are a nation was created by the Arabs only 30 years ago.

Basically the Palestinian are descendants of Arab tribes that came to the Land of Israel from Saudi Arabia via Syria and Jordan, there isn't much of a difference between the so called "Palestinian" Arabs and the Syrian and Jordanian Arabs.

Back in the time of the British mandate Jews living in the Land of Israel were called Palestinians :lol:

[b.scheller]

The OAS was never a resistance group, it was a terrorist organization organized mainly by French Army Officers, living in Algeria who thought that they could save the colonial possesions of the French Empire. They attacked civilians in Paris, Marseille and other countless cities. This does not make them radicals.

The PLO is the front under which all the other Palestinian terrorist organizations are connected to. Therefore, Yassir Arrafat is responsible for the actions of all those cowards.

Anyway, I've had enough with the ignorant posters in this topic. Yosy, go to your local library and read up on the topic. Perhaps one day when you've been educated about this situation you can discuss this in a intelligent matter. So far I have not seen one shred of proof, that your posts have any factual information.

[Yosy]

^^^^I never refered the OAS. I was always talking about the FLN.


Therefore, Yassir Arrafat is responsible for the actions of all those cowards.

What a stupid claim. Arafat can't and doesn't control all the actions of the other groups. And they are independent from Al-Fatah: Arafat's group.

Anyways, the israelis are occupying a land that doesn't belong to them and are opressing a people, so they should get out, not to mention that they are breaking international treaties and human rights, left, right and center.

No wonder there is so much unrest among top IDF units: IAF pilots refuse to fly, Sayeret Matkal commandos write open letters of protest, and the number of refuseniks is increasing by the minute.

[b.scheller]

I'd like to see these letters of greviance, so please by all means post some reliable sources.

As for the fact that its not their land, rofl that claim is absurd. Apart the fact that it was their land centuries ago, let's speak of the rather current statistics.

I have read statistical data that proves that the land that is now known as Israel has had a majority Hebrew population since 1880~1890; compared to the Arabic population. These statistics have been produced by the British governor at the time. The statistics were made every 20 years, at least in the table that I have read. The majority has always been bigger. In the beginning, I'm pretty sure that it was as little as 5:1 Israelis per Arab.

[S'13]

No wonder there is so much unrest among top IDF units: IAF pilots refuse to fly, Sayeret Matkal commandos write open letters of protest, and the number of refuseniks is increasing by the minute.

rofl

Lets not get carried away, shall we... :lol:

[Moledet]

^^^^I never refered the OAS. I was always talking about the FLN.


Therefore, Yassir Arrafat is responsible for the actions of all those cowards.

What a stupid claim. Arafat can't and doesn't control all the actions of the other groups. And they are independent from Al-Fatah: Arafat's group.

Anyways, the israelis are occupying a land that doesn't belong to them and are opressing a people, so they should get out, not to mention that they are breaking international treaties and human rights, left, right and center.

No wonder there is so much unrest among top IDF units: IAF pilots refuse to fly, Sayeret Matkal commandos write open letters of protest, and the number of refuseniks is increasing by the minute.
When there was a raid on the Mukata compund the IDF found letters from commanders of terror organizations and they asked from Arafat money and he approved their requests.

The land belongs to Israel because its owners (Egypt and Jordan) don't want it back.

Ofcourse we are breaking some human rights laws (that's how it is when you fight inside civilian population), but not like the Palestinians that Amnesty accuse them in crimes against humanity, because of all the laws that they brake.

IAF pilots refuse to fly? BULL****, most of the people that signed that letter are too old to serve or fly, the rest already apologised.
Most of Sayeret MATKAL operatives didn't sign that letter, a very small minority signed it and most of them got back to serve.

[S'13]

הבנאדם חושב שעוד מעט צה"ל הולך לקרוס... הכי הרג אותי זו העובדה כי הוא חושב שלפלסטינים הייתה מדינה משלהם בשטחים בין 1948 ל-1967

:cantbeli: :lol:

[Sayeret]

Robert_Mo go back to reading the forum rules your breaking some of them.


It seems the same way of thinking of honest germans during Holocaust.
We don't kill innocent people, but jews are terrorists and traitors, we don't thief honest citizens, but we take every thing to jews because they are thiefs and criminals

[UoUo]

No wonder there is so much unrest among top IDF units: IAF pilots refuse to fly, Sayeret Matkal commandos write open letters of protest, and the number of refuseniks is increasing by the minute.


rofl

Yeah sure...10 ex officers. from milliom of million that severed in the IDF from 1948.

And FFS you thoght that the palstinains had thier own country in 1948-1967

LOL rofl rofl

[Flagg]

ummmmm...excuse me.....but what the heck does this all have to do with the thread topic:

Israelis Undercover SF in Action ???

A whole lot of nothing I reckon....

What's up with "Herman Munster" on the left in photo #2 +#3?

That guy is HUGE......how does a guy the size of a small building manage to go unnoticed?

[tacticalmanta]

OK then: Israel is occupying territories (Gaza Strip, West Bank) that don't belong to it and are the house of people with a different culture from that of the israelis- aka just like occupying a country. And Palestine WAS a country from 1948 to 1967.

Basicly the area allocated by the UN to the palestinians in 1948, were invaded and occupied by Israel, Egypt and Jordan. So technically the palestinians didn't have a government. And I think that might be a part of the definition of a country or state. Perhaps the right term is calling them a nation

Israel did not invade any territory in 1948. In the 1940's and before "Palestinians" usually referred to Jews living in occupied Israel, e.g. Palestine.

Arafat starting using the term Palestinian in the second half of the 20th century to add legitmacy to his false movement. Arafat simple usese NAZI propaganda techniques to make the aggressor look like the victim, and many are duped again.

[UoUo]

ummmmm...excuse me.....but what the heck does this all have to do with the thread topic:

Israelis Undercover SF in Action ???

A whole lot of nothing I reckon....

What's up with "Herman Munster" on the left in photo #2 +#3?

That guy is HUGE......how does a guy the size of a small building manage to go unnoticed?

LoL yes..most of them are Huge btw..it "yamas" unit...and there are a lot of "druzim" serveing there. (none jews).

[Flagg]

LoL yes..most of them are Huge btw..it "yamas" unit...and there are a lot of "druzim" serveing there. (none jews).

So does that mean when you see a bunch of big b@stards wearing loose clothing "window shopping and minding their own business" it's time to hide indoors?

I'm surprised guys of his size and build can actually work effectively undercover...you'd think it would draw too much attention to his size and build

[Moledet]

ummmmm...excuse me.....but what the heck does this all have to do with the thread topic:

Israelis Undercover SF in Action ???

A whole lot of nothing I reckon....

What's up with "Herman Munster" on the left in photo #2 +#3?

That guy is HUGE......how does a guy the size of a small building manage to go unnoticed?
Heh yeah, the gun looks like a toy in his hands.

P.S. They can be noticed, they live together with the Palestinians.

[Lt_Crooks]

S'13 i know about suicide bombings , and i also know what causes them , the israeli attemps to quiet the palestinian people their citizens ,not by giving the arabs equal liberties, And i know what is going on in friggin Israel, Tell me what happened TODAY in Gaza IDF soldiers killed a 14 year old UNARMED boy and injured a 15 year old HANDICAP girl. WHAT was their crime they were climbing sand dunes 700 metres from a IDF guard tower, now tell me that the IDF doesnt terrorize palestinians , what could have those CHILDREN done, unarmed,700 m away?

[Lt_Crooks]

Dear Lt_Crooks
I have a question for you. Please try to answer it honestly.
If you had to make a choice between spending two weeks in an israeli prison or a palestinian one,wich one would you choose?
(this question solved me a few arguments in the past)
Think about it for a minute and please answer honestly.

I would honestly stay in a israeli prison

[tacticalmanta]

S'13 i know about suicide bombings , and i also know what causes them , the israeli attemps to quiet the palestinian people their citizens ,not by giving the arabs equal liberties, And i know what is going on in friggin Israel, Tell me what happened TODAY in Gaza IDF soldiers killed a 14 year old UNARMED boy and injured a 15 year old HANDICAP girl. WHAT was their crime they were climbing sand dunes 700 metres from a IDF guard tower, now tell me that the IDF doesnt terrorize palestinians , what could have those CHILDREN done, unarmed,700 m away?

Since the "Pals" govern themselves, those so called liberties you claim are being denied have nothing to do with Israeli law or policy. In fact, if you don't like the way they live, you can only blame Arafat.

While we are on the subject.. which liberties do you believe Israel denies the Pals?

Also, how do you know the boy was unarmed? Did you read it from *******? Likewise, Pal snipers target babies being held in their mother's arms, or when Pals target their own children to use a propaganda. You seem to be forgetting that this is a war of good and evil, not just two opposing sides.

[Moledet]

S'13 i know about suicide bombings , and i also know what causes them , the israeli attemps to quiet the palestinian people their citizens ,not by giving the arabs equal liberties, And i know what is going on in friggin Israel, Tell me what happened TODAY in Gaza IDF soldiers killed a 14 year old UNARMED boy and injured a 15 year old HANDICAP girl. WHAT was their crime they were climbing sand dunes 700 metres from a IDF guard tower, now tell me that the IDF doesnt terrorize palestinians , what could have those CHILDREN done, unarmed,700 m away?
First, a Palestinian "cop" was killed and a 15 years old boy (not a handicap).
Second, I see that you believe to every bull**** that the media writes, I don't think that a handicap girl can climb sand dunes and play on them.
Third, You forgot to mention that it was at night time (22:00) while Israeli soldiers were attacked by a 330pound stachel charge, mortars and gun fire, they shot back at the sources of fire and probably missed some of the bullets, or maybe that 15 years old was shot by Palestinians (as already happend many times).

P.S. Before we entered the West Bank there were more suicide bombings than after we entered it (10.2000-03.2002 only 30% of the terror attacks were blocked, 04.2002-nowadays 90% of the attacks are being blocked)

[Lt_Crooks]

ok well the girl was mentally handicap not physically, also BUDDIE, you friggin believe what the media tells you, Everyone does unless you have a FIRST HAND ACCOUNT of the event, so the information you told me you got from one media and I got my account from another media source, mine would be obviously more neutral

[Moledet]

ok well the girl was mentally handicap not physically, also BUDDIE, you friggin believe what the media tells you, Everyone does unless you have a FIRST HAND ACCOUNT of the event, so the information you told me you got from one media and I got my account from another media source, mine would be obviously more neutral
I got the information from the forum and not from "my media".

P.S. Remind me to use this argument when americans will talk about Iraq, I mean, ofcourse Al Jazera is more accurate when it comes to US wars because it's more neutral.

[SpikeATGM]

Perhaps yeah. The Palestine nation is is then.

Actually if the 7 arab nations succeeded in strangling Israel at birth in 1948 and destroyed Israel, do you think they will hand over their share of occupied land to a non existence Palestine arab leadership? Do you think there will be talks of Palestine state now?

I tell you not a chance. All of them will be busy dividing their share of land among themselve and drawing up new borders.

Ironically, it the unintended success and continual existence of Israel that provide the reasons for the existence of palestine state.

Like what one said:

"The Palestinians are right when they talk about the "catastrophe" of 1948 - the only problem is that this catastrophe was NOT the declaration of Israeli statehood, but the invasion of Israel by their Arab friends"

[gilgoul]

power.

Perhaps. but I see palestinian children starving and being killed by israeli soldiers!
So if a terrorist from a determined nation commites an shame act (as terrorists of every time, colour and religion commite)he does not rapresent his people, but if an Army of a country commites a terrorist act, it covers with shame this nation.[/quote]


Palestinian children starving??????
That is the kind of conclusion you ve been dran to or you are just biased?

The fact is poverty struck palestinians are having a hard time, unemployement is high, but the palestinians receive SO MUCH HELP from absolutely everyone that they are in fact the people the most assisted in the world today in term of food, education, medical facilities and financial help.
If you care about "STARVING" children, take a look in Sudan, you`ll have plenty to take care of.
As for kids being "killed, It is very sad indeed to see kids being sometimes taken in cross fire, and being injured or dying from wounds that should have been avoided!!!
HOW??? BY KEEPING THEM IN SCHOOL, BY PROTECTING THEM FROM THEMSELVES AND KEEPING THEM OUT OF COMBAT ZONES!!
But this is the job of Palestinians parents, who instead of that fancy to dress their kids as suicide bombers, but this is the job of palestinian education system who instead of teaching math praises the shaheed and distribute documents inciting to die like an angel on the barricades!

So if you want to support the palestinian people and forgive them their crimes, it`s your right, but ASSUME YOUR POSITION AND DON`T TRY MORAL RELATIVISM AND TWO PENNIES PROPAGANDA, IT JUST TAKES AWAY YOUR CREDIBILITY.

[big80a2]

Well IMO the Intivada is almost over and the palies failed to kill the jews!!!

woot LONG LIVE ISRAEL woot

and peace to the palies.

[big80a2]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040626/i/r2147565087.jpg

is the habdgun a Jericho?

[scrybe]

Looks more like a SIG.

[UoUo]

I want to correct my delf..any way they are from Duvdevan... (have a gibush for them next year :))

And i think the gun is : http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/handguns/sig/p226-d.gif

[Yosy]

I don't have to time to make a more elaborate post, but the bottom line is: UN never allowed Israel to occupy the Gaza Strip and West Bank, so they should get out. It doesn't belong them, unless you belive in a religious book with strong historic errors. Why are you so pro-Israel? They are invaders and then hide in "anti-semitism" and "self-defence" claims when anyone criticizes their actions.

[UoUo]

I don't have to time to make a more elaborate post, but the bottom line is: UN never allowed Israel to occupy the Gaza Strip and West Bank, so they should get out. It doesn't belong them, unless you belive in a religious book with strong historic errors. Why are you so pro-Israel? They are invaders and then hide in "anti-semitism" and "self-defence" claims when anyone criticizes their actions.

And you are just a typical ignorant that until the few hours ago thought that between 1948-1967 the pal' had state and we invade them...

the fact is..the arabs invade to us and we kicked thier ass...

BTW: if we were so aggressive we were already were invade those arab Countries and kick thier ass...just cuz we can.

Aka: syria..egept..lebanon..and act.

[mack pl]

I don't have to time to make a more elaborate post, but the bottom line is: UN never allowed Israel to occupy the Gaza Strip and West Bank, so they should get out. It doesn't belong them, unless you belive in a religious book with strong historic errors. Why are you so pro-Israel? They are invaders and then hide in "anti-semitism" and "self-defence" claims when anyone criticizes their actions.

And you are just a typical ignorant that until the few hours ago thought that between 1948-1967 the pal' had state and we invade them...

the fact is..the arabs invade to us and we kicked thier ass...

BTW: if we were so aggressive we were already were invade those arab Countries and kick thier ass...just cuz we can.

Aka: syria..egept..lebanon..and act.
56-Egypt, 82-Lebanon- who invided who? ;) :)

[UoUo]

I don't have to time to make a more elaborate post, but the bottom line is: UN never allowed Israel to occupy the Gaza Strip and West Bank, so they should get out. It doesn't belong them, unless you belive in a religious book with strong historic errors. Why are you so pro-Israel? They are invaders and then hide in "anti-semitism" and "self-defence" claims when anyone criticizes their actions.

And you are just a typical ignorant that until the few hours ago thought that between 1948-1967 the pal' had state and we invade them...

the fact is..the arabs invade to us and we kicked thier ass...

BTW: if we were so aggressive we were already were invade those arab Countries and kick thier ass...just cuz we can.

Aka: syria..egept..lebanon..and act.
56-Egypt, 82-Lebanon- who invided who? ;) :)

56 we and great aggressive britian :D

And 82 we had our reasons..that not happend for no reasons.

You agree with me that if we were so aggressive fantic we could take most of the midllile east...

[mack pl]

56 we and great aggressive britian :D
And 82 we had our reasons..that not happend for no reasons.
1) agressive Britain, and France ;)
2) yeah, inviders always have reasons ;) :lol:



You agree with me that if we were so aggressive fantic we could take most of the midllile east...
yeas, I could agree with you ;) And yes, you are a peacefull nation ;) :lol:

shalom alehem :D

[Moledet]

I don't have to time to make a more elaborate post, but the bottom line is: UN never allowed Israel to occupy the Gaza Strip and West Bank, so they should get out. It doesn't belong them, unless you belive in a religious book with strong historic errors. Why are you so pro-Israel? They are invaders and then hide in "anti-semitism" and "self-defence" claims when anyone criticizes their actions.
We are invaders, thieves, we are baby killers, anything more?
UN don't need to allow countries to start wars. The six days war started because Egypt kicked the UN soldiers from Sinai and because they closed the barriers that leads to Eilat bay, they have broke the rules of the UN and were ready to attack Israel.
Israel was mad that they broke the rules and deicded to go to war, Egypt lost Sinai desert and the Gaza strip, Jordan that attacked Israel lost the West Bank and Syria that attacked Israel lost the Golan hights. Egypt dodesn't want to take Gaza strip back to its control and Jordan doesn't want to take back the west bank, in other words, the owners of the land deicded to give it to Israel.

If we want so much land then why did we give the Sinai desert back? It was a beatiful place and we've build there beautiful cities and vacation resorts, still we gave it back to Egypt.

So we should get out of the west bank and then to be slaughterd by savages? You see you don't realy care what happens to the Israeli citizens all you care about are the terrorists. We are not the main problem, we are doing defensive actions while they all the time attack us again and again in terror attacks that hit civilians. Do you remember the attack in Spain? Do you think they deserve it for going to Iraq? I guess you don't. Then why we deserve to be attacked by terrorists? We are defending our citizens from savages, from people that want to murder all of us until the last man and you know what? We won't let them.
I know that you live in Europe and you know **** about war, terror, etc... But still you should respect us for doing better than any other country has ever done against terror attacks and because we have such a relativeli small number of civilian casualties from the enemy forces.
Other countries would have either run away (Spain) or bomb the crap out of the terrorists without caring too much about the civilians (USA), we are not running away and we still do everything to kill as less civilians as possible.

[S'13]

56-Egypt, 82-Lebanon- who invided who? ;) :)

In 1956 Egypt blocked the straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping and since 1949 had created and supported terrorist groups named "Fedayeen" which infiltrated Israel's borders and attacked civilians.
In the 1956 Sinai War Israel had every right to attack Egypt since it was defending its right to have free passage through the straits of Tiran and was protecting its borders against "Fedayeen" attacks.

In 1982 Israel was defending its borders against terrorist orginizations which made Lebanon their base and attacked Israeli settlements in northern Israel.

[UoUo]

56 we and great aggressive britian :D
And 82 we had our reasons..that not happend for no reasons.
1) agressive Britain, and France ;)
2) yeah, inviders always have reasons ;) :lol:



You agree with me that if we were so aggressive fantic we could take most of the midllile east...
yeas, I could agree with you ;) And yes, you are a peacefull nation ;) :lol:

shalom alehem :D

Not always...you didn't have any to invade iraq. :D

[mack pl]

56 we and great aggressive britian :D
And 82 we had our reasons..that not happend for no reasons.
1) agressive Britain, and France ;)
2) yeah, inviders always have reasons ;) :lol:



You agree with me that if we were so aggressive fantic we could take most of the midllile east...
yeas, I could agree with you ;) And yes, you are a peacefull nation ;) :lol:

shalom alehem :D

Not always...you didn't have any to invade iraq. :D
Yes, we have................OIL :lol:

BTW S'13 and UoUo- I know reasons why you invided this countrys-in this year I was learned in my Univ. about all israelis wars against Arabs,huh ;) But I was talking to UoUo- who said something about that Israel never invide any country, and only defend ;) Its not true(56 and 82). And yours reasons aren't important(like our in Iraq03), you were inviders ;) :lol: You know what i mean, I hope :) No offense fellows :D

shalom alehem :)

[UoUo]

56 we and great aggressive britian :D
And 82 we had our reasons..that not happend for no reasons.
1) agressive Britain, and France ;)
2) yeah, inviders always have reasons ;) :lol:



You agree with me that if we were so aggressive fantic we could take most of the midllile east...
yeas, I could agree with you ;) And yes, you are a peacefull nation ;) :lol:

shalom alehem :D

Not always...you didn't have any to invade iraq. :D
Yes, we have................OIL :lol:

BTW S'13 and UoUo- I know reasons why you invided this countrys-in this year I was learn about all israelis wars against Arabs,huh ;) But I was talking to uoUo- who said something about that Israel never invide any country, and only defend ;) Its not true(56 and 82). And yours reasons aren't important(like our in Iraq03), you were inviders ;) :lol: You know what i mean, I hope :) No offense fellows :D

shalom alehem :)

You have to admmit...we had more reasons to invade Lebanon themn your reasons to invade iraq.

[mack pl]

56 we and great aggressive britian :D
And 82 we had our reasons..that not happend for no reasons.
1) agressive Britain, and France ;)
2) yeah, inviders always have reasons ;) :lol:



You agree with me that if we were so aggressive fantic we could take most of the midllile east...
yeas, I could agree with you ;) And yes, you are a peacefull nation ;) :lol:

shalom alehem :D

Not always...you didn't have any to invade iraq. :D
Yes, we have................OIL :lol:

BTW S'13 and UoUo- I know reasons why you invided this countrys-in this year I was learn about all israelis wars against Arabs,huh ;) But I was talking to uoUo- who said something about that Israel never invide any country, and only defend ;) Its not true(56 and 82). And yours reasons aren't important(like our in Iraq03), you were inviders ;) :lol: You know what i mean, I hope :) No offense fellows :D

shalom alehem :)

You have to admmit...we had more reasons to invade Lebanon themn your reasons to invade iraq.
WTF? Lebanon have more Oil than Iraq :cantbeli: :lol:

well, maybe you have right. But ive never said that we never invided any country, like you did ;) We did that many times before, and we are proud of that ;) :lol:

pozdrawiam serdecznie :)

[UoUo]

56 we and great aggressive britian :D
And 82 we had our reasons..that not happend for no reasons.
1) agressive Britain, and France ;)
2) yeah, inviders always have reasons ;) :lol:



You agree with me that if we were so aggressive fantic we could take most of the midllile east...
yeas, I could agree with you ;) And yes, you are a peacefull nation ;) :lol:

shalom alehem :D

Not always...you didn't have any to invade iraq. :D
Yes, we have................OIL :lol:

BTW S'13 and UoUo- I know reasons why you invided this countrys-in this year I was learn about all israelis wars against Arabs,huh ;) But I was talking to uoUo- who said something about that Israel never invide any country, and only defend ;) Its not true(56 and 82). And yours reasons aren't important(like our in Iraq03), you were inviders ;) :lol: You know what i mean, I hope :) No offense fellows :D

shalom alehem :)

You have to admmit...we had more reasons to invade Lebanon themn your reasons to invade iraq.
WTF? Lebanon have more Oil than Iraq :cantbeli: :lol:

well, maybe you have right. But ive never said that we never invided any country, like you did ;) We did that many times before, and we are proud of that ;) :lol:

pozdrawiam serdecznie :)

Fine by me. :D



BTW i proud at our invasion 2. :D
..

[Javehn]

Mack ???

Remind me the previos (pre ww2) names of Vroslav (or Breslaw) , gdansk, Malborg , Apole and so on .

How about the West Prussia , Pumeranz , and Selezia that you guys ripped from Germany ? I find it justified , it happend after WW2 , when Germans made Polan eat a lot of **** . And all the rest of the world is .

You may argue that you returned those lands back at you . Then do me a favor and open Byble or History book . Who owned Jerusalem , Hebron , Acco , and so on ? ;)

Think about it , Pozdro .

[S'13]

But I was talking to UoUo- who said something about that Israel never invide any country, and only defend ;) Its not true(56 and 82).


According to the dictionary the defenition of the word is: "To enter by force in order to conquer or pillage".

However in both these wars Israel's goal wasn't to conquer or to pillage but to defend its borders. ;)

[Javehn]

Mack ???

Remind me the previous (pre ww2) names of Vroslav (or Breslaw) , gdansk, Malborg , Apole and so on .

How about the West Prussia , Pumeranz , and Selezia that you guys ripped from Germany ? I find it justified , it happend after WW2 , when Germans made Polan eat a lot of **** . And all the rest of the world is .

You may argue that you returned those lands back at you (If you are catholic) . Then do me a favor and open Byble or History book . Who owned Jerusalem , Hebron , Acco , and so on ? ;)

Think about it ,but please don't take the high ground here . I thought you are better then this :( .
Anyway , Pozdro . I still like you . ;)

טוב , נראה לי זיינתי את הפולני הזה . קצת הסטוריה מרפא הכל

[mack pl]

But I was talking to UoUo- who said something about that Israel never invide any country, and only defend ;) Its not true(56 and 82).


According to the dictionary the defenition of the word is: "To enter by force in order to conquer or pillage".

However in both these wars Israel's goal wasn't to conquer or to pillage but to defend its borders. ;)

:lol: Yeah, sure ;) Soviets "defend" ukrainians and belorussians in east Poland september39 too ;) :lol: I was talking about "ATTACK", not reasons, strategy, tactic etc. You "attack" them, yeah?? :) :lol: You see my point :roll:

its cool discussion, no insults etc. THX guys ;) :)

[mack pl]

Mack ???

Remind me the previous (pre ww2) names of Vroslav (or Breslaw) , gdansk, Malborg , Apole and so on .

How about the West Prussia , Pumeranz , and Selezia that you guys ripped from Germany ? I find it justified , it happend after WW2 , when Germans made Polan eat a lot of **** . And all the rest of the world is .

You may argue that you returned those lands back at you (If you are catholic) . Then do me a favor and open Byble or History book . Who owned Jerusalem , Hebron , Acco , and so on ? ;)

Think about it ,but please don't take the high ground here . I thought you are better then this :( .
Anyway , Pozdro . I still like you . ;)

טוב , נראה לי זיינתי את הפולני הזה . קצת הסטוריה מרפא הכל

Huh, Javehn mate, i dont talking here about Conquest, but only about that who invide who,ok. UoUo said-"Israel always defend , never invided anyone'- so, i said, its not true(56,82). Reasons arent important, you were technically "inviders" :) :lol:

btw i like you too mate :)

[Javehn]

Well , you can invade if you have Casus Beili . And we had very good Casus Beili durinmg 56 and 67 both . There is very good book on that matter "Strategy and War" , written by Israeli writter Jehosapat Gerkebi , he writes the reasons for starting the wars very well .

[mack pl]

Well , you can invade if you have Casus Beili . And we had very good Casus Beili durinmg 56 and 67 both . There is very good book on that matter "Strategy and War" , written by Israeli writter Jehosapat Gerkebi , he writes the reasons for starting the wars very well .

well, you still talking about reasons, yeah? ok. you have the best reasons to invide other countrys. but you are still inviders. And i was taliking about this simple fact-who attack who? ;) :lol:

shalom alehem

[Javehn]

Well , technicaly , there were non stoping shotouts from Syria to Israel , so here you can't say we did the first strike ;) . They attacked first , just static , and we did it in motion , and kick ass :) .

And Egypt send their Fedaien soldiers to attack in Israel , so you can also say that they attacked first , more or less .

[mack pl]

Well , technicaly , there were non stoping shotouts from Syria to Israel , so here you can't say we did the first strike ;) . They attacked first , just static , and we did it in motion , and kick ass :) .

And Egypt send their Fedaien soldiers to attack in Israel , so you can also say that they attacked first , more or less .

Zionist propaganda p-) :lol:

So, If we think about that in this way, Israel is in permanent war status(sp.)-i mean you dont know what peace is?And you still afraid Arabs could again attack you, yeah? So, maybe you should attack them first ;) :lol: One big hit-1 Army against egypt, 2 Army against Syria, Jordania could be a neutral. Well, Iran is dangerous too, but its too far for your land forces, so maybe one nuke in to Teheran ;) :lol: is tah good scenario? ;) :lol:

shalom alehem :)

[Javehn]

No , bad scenario ... Yes , Israel lived in sort of pseudo war status for all of it's existance , when we had real wars in between :roll: . I guess we choosed very bad location , or very bad brothers ... (Muhamad and Itshak were brothers , the ancestors of Jews and Arabs :roll: ) .

And no thank you , 6 wars is enough . No nead for another one

[UoUo]

Well , technicaly , there were non stoping shotouts from Syria to Israel , so here you can't say we did the first strike ;) . They attacked first , just static , and we did it in motion , and kick ass :) .

And Egypt send their Fedaien soldiers to attack in Israel , so you can also say that they attacked first , more or less .

Zionist propaganda p-) :lol:

So, If we think about that in this way, Israel is in permanent war status(sp.)-i mean you dont know what peace is?And you still afraid Arabs could again attack you, yeah? So, maybe you should attack them first ;) :lol: One big hit-1 Army against egypt, 2 Army against Syria, Jordania could be a neutral. Well, Iran is dangerous too, but its too far for your land forces, so maybe one nuke in to Teheran ;) :lol: is tah good scenario? ;) :lol:

shalom alehem :)

Iran not to far for are Air Force. :D

and yes..we can invade everyone since we are always at war with them :)

[Moledet]

No , bad scenario ... Yes , Israel lived in sort of pseudo war status for all of it's existance , when we had real wars in between :roll: . I guess we choosed very bad location , or very bad brothers ... (Muhamad and Itshak were brothers , the ancestors of Jews and Arabs :roll: ) .

And no thank you , 6 wars is enough . No nead for another one
You got it wrong, Ishmael and Yitzhak were brothers, Muhamad was born only in 350AC (if i'm not wrong) while Yitzhak was born in About 2000BC.

[mack pl]

No , bad scenario ... Yes , Israel lived in sort of pseudo war status for all of it's existance , when we had real wars in between :roll: . I guess we choosed very bad location , or very bad brothers ... (Muhamad and Itshak were brothers , the ancestors of Jews and Arabs :roll: ) .

And no thank you , 6 wars is enough . No nead for another one
Brothers always fight against eachother: for example Romus and Remus, me and my brother ;) :lol:
About location ive read somewhere that zion organisation after WWII have idea to creat jewish state in Uganda, or Uruguay :roll:Maybe its BS, but it could be better for you to living in those countrys.

And yes, this scenario was stupid(it was joke). but does anyone in israel, or in fukin world have good scenario for this region. i really doubt Ari Sharon or Arafat could invented something new, and constructive :(

shalom alehem

[UoUo]

No , bad scenario ... Yes , Israel lived in sort of pseudo war status for all of it's existance , when we had real wars in between :roll: . I guess we choosed very bad location , or very bad brothers ... (Muhamad and Itshak were brothers , the ancestors of Jews and Arabs :roll: ) .

And no thank you , 6 wars is enough . No nead for another one
Brothers always fight against eachother: for example Romus and Remus, me and my brother ;) :lol:
About location ive read somewhere that zion organisation after WWII have idea to creat jewish state in Uganda, or Uruguay :roll:Maybe its BS, but it could be better for you to living in those countrys.

And yes, this scenario was stupid(it was joke). but does anyone in israel, or in fukin world have good scenario for this region. i really doubt Ari Sharon or Arafat could invented something new, and constructive :(

shalom alehem

Yeah...and what if Uganda people started to fight us? you and your friend whould be the first to say "you invade them..and came from no where..they have the right to fight you".

And i don't think that our country would be modern if we rise her in uganda..but will never know.

[mack pl]

No , bad scenario ... Yes , Israel lived in sort of pseudo war status for all of it's existance , when we had real wars in between :roll: . I guess we choosed very bad location , or very bad brothers ... (Muhamad and Itshak were brothers , the ancestors of Jews and Arabs :roll: ) .

And no thank you , 6 wars is enough . No nead for another one
Brothers always fight against eachother: for example Romus and Remus, me and my brother ;) :lol:
About location ive read somewhere that zion organisation after WWII have idea to creat jewish state in Uganda, or Uruguay :roll:Maybe its BS, but it could be better for you to living in those countrys.

And yes, this scenario was stupid(it was joke). but does anyone in israel, or in fukin world have good scenario for this region. i really doubt Ari Sharon or Arafat could invented something new, and constructive :(

shalom alehem

Yeah...and what if Uganda people started to fight us? you and your friend whould be the first to say "you invade them..and came from no where..they have the right to fight you".

And i don't think that our country would be modern if we rise her in uganda..but will never know.
1) Me and my friend? Who you mean?
2) Uganda people,huh? Im guessing they couldnt winn with you ;)
3) Im not leftie propaganda sayer(sp.). I only correct you, when you said that Israel never invided anyone ;) Its not true. So, whats your problem UoUo? If I said not true, please, correct me ;) :lol:
4) why do you think, Israelo-uganda could't be modern? ;) You create great modern state in fukin desert in middle east, you could do same thing in desert(or jungle,Im not sure) in Africa ;) :lol:

btw i dont wanna ofended you, or something ;)

shalom amigo

[UoUo]

No , bad scenario ... Yes , Israel lived in sort of pseudo war status for all of it's existance , when we had real wars in between :roll: . I guess we choosed very bad location , or very bad brothers ... (Muhamad and Itshak were brothers , the ancestors of Jews and Arabs :roll: ) .

And no thank you , 6 wars is enough . No nead for another one
Brothers always fight against eachother: for example Romus and Remus, me and my brother ;) :lol:
About location ive read somewhere that zion organisation after WWII have idea to creat jewish state in Uganda, or Uruguay :roll:Maybe its BS, but it could be better for you to living in those countrys.

And yes, this scenario was stupid(it was joke). but does anyone in israel, or in fukin world have good scenario for this region. i really doubt Ari Sharon or Arafat could invented something new, and constructive :(

shalom alehem

Yeah...and what if Uganda people started to fight us? you and your friend whould be the first to say "you invade them..and came from no where..they have the right to fight you".

And i don't think that our country would be modern if we rise her in uganda..but will never know.
1) Me and my friend? Who you mean?
2) Uganda people,huh? Im guessing they couldnt winn with you ;)
3) Im not leftie propaganda sayer(sp.). I only correct you, when you said that Israel never invided anyone ;) Its not true. So, whats your problem UoUo? If I said not true, please, correct me ;) :lol:
4) why do you think, Israelo-uganda could't be modern? ;) You create great modern state in fukin desert in middle east, you could do same thing in desert(or jungle,Im not sure) in Africa ;) :lol:

btw i dont wanna ofended you, or something ;)

shalom amigo

1) the Pro Arab people....
2)the arabs also....what's the point?
3)I don't have a problem and i agree with you.
4)True...but i want jeruslem. :D

[mack pl]

No , bad scenario ... Yes , Israel lived in sort of pseudo war status for all of it's existance , when we had real wars in between :roll: . I guess we choosed very bad location , or very bad brothers ... (Muhamad and Itshak were brothers , the ancestors of Jews and Arabs :roll: ) .

And no thank you , 6 wars is enough . No nead for another one
Brothers always fight against eachother: for example Romus and Remus, me and my brother ;) :lol:
About location ive read somewhere that zion organisation after WWII have idea to creat jewish state in Uganda, or Uruguay :roll:Maybe its BS, but it could be better for you to living in those countrys.

And yes, this scenario was stupid(it was joke). but does anyone in israel, or in fukin world have good scenario for this region. i really doubt Ari Sharon or Arafat could invented something new, and constructive :(

shalom alehem

Yeah...and what if Uganda people started to fight us? you and your friend whould be the first to say "you invade them..and came from no where..they have the right to fight you".

And i don't think that our country would be modern if we rise her in uganda..but will never know.
1) Me and my friend? Who you mean?
2) Uganda people,huh? Im guessing they couldnt winn with you ;)
3) Im not leftie propaganda sayer(sp.). I only correct you, when you said that Israel never invided anyone ;) Its not true. So, whats your problem UoUo? If I said not true, please, correct me ;) :lol:
4) why do you think, Israelo-uganda could't be modern? ;) You create great modern state in fukin desert in middle east, you could do same thing in desert(or jungle,Im not sure) in Africa ;) :lol:

btw i dont wanna ofended you, or something ;)

shalom amigo

1) the Pro Arab people....
2)the arabs also....what's the point?
3)I don't have a problem and i agree with you.
4)True...but i want jeruslem. :D

1) Yeah, im pro-Arab ;) that why I support war against Iraq ;) :lol:
2) yes, i was talikng about that. If arabs couldnt winn with you, what some poor negros could do(Im not racist ;) ) :lol:
3) ok, you should always agree with me, Im older and smarter than you ;) :lol:
4) well, i cannot argue with that ;) :)
4)

[UoUo]

No , bad scenario ... Yes , Israel lived in sort of pseudo war status for all of it's existance , when we had real wars in between :roll: . I guess we choosed very bad location , or very bad brothers ... (Muhamad and Itshak were brothers , the ancestors of Jews and Arabs :roll: ) .

And no thank you , 6 wars is enough . No nead for another one
Brothers always fight against eachother: for example Romus and Remus, me and my brother ;) :lol:
About location ive read somewhere that zion organisation after WWII have idea to creat jewish state in Uganda, or Uruguay :roll:Maybe its BS, but it could be better for you to living in those countrys.

And yes, this scenario was stupid(it was joke). but does anyone in israel, or in fukin world have good scenario for this region. i really doubt Ari Sharon or Arafat could invented something new, and constructive :(

shalom alehem

Yeah...and what if Uganda people started to fight us? you and your friend whould be the first to say "you invade them..and came from no where..they have the right to fight you".

And i don't think that our country would be modern if we rise her in uganda..but will never know.
1) Me and my friend? Who you mean?
2) Uganda people,huh? Im guessing they couldnt winn with you ;)
3) Im not leftie propaganda sayer(sp.). I only correct you, when you said that Israel never invided anyone ;) Its not true. So, whats your problem UoUo? If I said not true, please, correct me ;) :lol:
4) why do you think, Israelo-uganda could't be modern? ;) You create great modern state in fukin desert in middle east, you could do same thing in desert(or jungle,Im not sure) in Africa ;) :lol:

btw i dont wanna ofended you, or something ;)

shalom amigo

1) the Pro Arab people....
2)the arabs also....what's the point?
3)I don't have a problem and i agree with you.
4)True...but i want jeruslem. :D

1) Yeah, im pro-Arab ;) that why I support war against Iraq ;) :lol:
2) yes, i was talikng about that. If arabs couldnt winn with you, what some poor negros could do(Im not racist ;) ) :lol:
3) ok, you should always agree with me, Im older and smarter than you ;) :lol:
4) well, i cannot argue with that ;) :)
4)

1) so pro palstinian.
2)"Negros" are much more hard core then the arabs :D and they whould stold all our chicks with thier huge ****s.
3)Yes Yes.
4) hmm "ok, you should always agree with me, and smarter than you"

[mack pl]

1) well, I understand their law to "independent state'. But i dont support and agree with theirs terroristic methods :|
2) nah, they aren't more dangerous than Arabs. im guess you could have less trouble in uganda ;)
3) yes
4) no, look at -3) :lol:

[Robert_Mo]

The point is the Irgun it not a terroist organisation of any stretch of the imagination. Any these statements lead people like you to believe that they are.. which is the problem with the statement in the first place.

You could argue Stern/ Lehi was a terrorist organisation, but they pale in comparison to anything today.


So OLP of Arafat is a legitime organization fighting for his peoples rights?

The men of resistance again nazizm were terrorists for nazis, but freedom fighters for others, (me included).
It's only question of points of view, but I think Israeli does not want the peace.
The open provocation of Sharon with his visit to Place of the Mosques, that made explode the second intifada, Barak that was put down and Barak was achieving the peace, etc etc.
Some other facts as the position of Sharon in defence industry that gains great money by war, the corruption of Sharon's son that used the influence of his father for sme kind of bussines.
I have a great consideration for the Jewish people, and I feel a sense of fault for what jews suffred by Christians, but thi don't stop me to say what I really think. However some Jews, the first momet you say things they don't like, however true (as some of the greatest terrorists and dictators of the story were Jews) they run to say ignorant antisemit.


Arafat is Egyptian. Which legitimate country is he fighting for???

Is palestinian that lived in Egypt.
Where were from lot of jew leaders? Russia, Poland, germany etc.

[Robert_Mo]

Irgun is no better than Al Qaeda? Now if those are not the words of an ignorant Antisemite, I ever I have read them.

Gentleman, it is strange how you run to use the word antisemite.
IRA is catholic but is terrorist as Al Qaeda.
Or israeli and jew terrorist are untouchable?

BTW Arabs and Jews are semit both.

OK, breaking with standard usage. That is an ignorant anti-Jewish comment that could only be made by a complete idiot or a NAZI.

It is proved that Jew and Arabs are the same race. You are a racist, with the same morality of a nazy that speaks about superior races.

[b.scheller]

Irgun is no better than Al Qaeda? Now if those are not the words of an ignorant Antisemite, I ever I have read them.

Gentleman, it is strange how you run to use the word antisemite.
IRA is catholic but is terrorist as Al Qaeda.
Or israeli and jew terrorist are untouchable?

BTW Arabs and Jews are semit both.

OK, breaking with standard usage. That is an ignorant anti-Jewish comment that could only be made by a complete idiot or a NAZI.

It is proved that Jew and Arabs are the same race. You are a racist, with the same morality of a nazy that speaks about superior races.

yeah okay...genius rofl

[b.scheller]

Anyway, as for the reasons why Israel took the initiative to commit to Lebanon was defense. The PLO who was hiding there was firing rockets from their positions onto Israeli cities. They were terrorist attacks, they had to defend themselves from that.

Even when Israel invaded foreign nations, they had justifable means; and they were all to defend themselves from their aggressive neighbours.

[Robert_Mo]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

Irgun and Stern were not terrorist organizations?
Pardon me Sir, but they were not better than Al Qaeda. Killed innocent people, attacked legitime governments etc.

Irgun only targeted military targets and so it can't be regarded as a terrorist organization. If compering the Irgun to Al-Qaeda makes you feel good then so be it, it just shows your ignorance...

So an Al qaeda man that targets US military targets what is?

[S'13]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

Irgun and Stern were not terrorist organizations?
Pardon me Sir, but they were not better than Al Qaeda. Killed innocent people, attacked legitime governments etc.

Irgun only targeted military targets and so it can't be regarded as a terrorist organization. If compering the Irgun to Al-Qaeda makes you feel good then so be it, it just shows your ignorance...

So an Al qaeda man that targets US military targets what is?

Al-Qaeda's main targets are civilian targets and so a person who is member of that group is a terrorist even if he attacks military targets.

[Robert_Mo]

there is a whole lot of diffrence between the U.S. going into an iraqi home and israelis going into a palestinian homes, the americans go into homes because their is a war going on. The israelites go into arabs homes because of the arabs CREED.


rofl :cantbeli:

I guess you never heard of suicied bombings and other forms of Palestinian terrorism.

I knew that there are people who live in their own little made up world where even if the U.S bombs mosques it's ok but when IDF search for weapons and terrorists in civilian homes it is a crime.

However I had no idea that for some people it was that bad...


Someone from israel, tell me when was the last attack by the palestinians on israelites?

About 30 minutes ago...

We owe the decrease in terror attacks to the IDF operations.


all of the the strikes that israel has aimed at killing arab leaders

"Arab leaders" I will remember that the next time an Al-Qaida terrorist is nailed by the U.S. :roll:

Hey! I have an idea let's all call Bin-Laden an "Arab leader". :cantbeli:


I also believe the ISRAEL is single-handedly responsible for septemeber 11th

You have just struck the last nail in your coffin as far as it goes for your reputation here...

Bur I think that if a man blows himself, maybe he has a great problem, perhaps is constricted, perhaps somebody burned his house, killed his kids etc.
How do you explain that in Israeli Armed Forces, no Israelian Arab serves? To serve in IDF you must be a Jew. In US Armed Forces, they are people from all nations that serves as equels in duties and rights!
I think that there is more racism inside Israel, than all the shamefull antisemism of history.
And I hate the jewish racism in the name of the same moral principles I hate the antisemitism, and the shamefull behavior of us christians against Jews in centuries.

[Robert_Mo]

Dear Lt_Crooks
I have a question for you. Please try to answer it honestly.
If you had to make a choice between spending two weeks in an israeli prison or a palestinian one,wich one would you choose?
(this question solved me a few arguments in the past)
Think about it for a minute and please answer honestly.

It is the same ****!
I don't beleive that Israeli treats the prisoners better!
I have seen so much children killed in cold blood by israelian Army, to beleive.
I think that hate has blinded your eyes, and you keep the palestinians in slavery, to have work power with a low price.

[Robert_Mo]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

Irgun and Stern were not terrorist organizations?
Pardon me Sir, but they were not better than Al Qaeda. Killed innocent people, attacked legitime governments etc.

Irgun only targeted military targets and so it can't be regarded as a terrorist organization. If compering the Irgun to Al-Qaeda makes you feel good then so be it, it just shows your ignorance...

So an Al qaeda man that targets US military targets what is?

Al-Qaeda's main targets are civilian targets and so a person who is member of that group is a terrorist even if he attacks military targets.

Folke Berndadotte was a military target?

[Robert_Mo]

What Palestine is doing is resistance to the invasion. Some call it terrorism: but it's Israel's fault that the IDF soldiers died. Israel put the palestinians into a corner: palestinian kids see their houses being destroyed, their fathers being arrested, etc. The palestinians live without honor. They have resorted to violance because they don't have any other choice. They would rather go down like a martyr than live in the conditions that they live daily. Israel makes daily violations of basic human rights. Israel lost all the moral high ground that had before the 6-Day War.

RIGHT!

[Robert_Mo]

What Palestine is doing is resistance to the invasion.

Since when is the bombing of resturants, buses and markets thought to be resistance?

If the Palestinians would only attack military targets I would see your point but almost all of their attacks are against civilians.

Also take into consideration the fact that Hamas and Islamic-Jihad, the two strongest Palestinian terrorist orginizations are aimed at destroying Israel...

You have yet to answer my question, what country are we occupying?

So as IDF attacks civilians targets,is a terrorist organisation?
Or Irgun and Stern that attacked civilians, ruining arab villages, killing children and putting bombs in hotels (Hotel King David), were terrorists?

[Robert_Mo]

The OAS was never a resistance group, it was a terrorist organization organized mainly by French Army Officers, living in Algeria who thought that they could save the colonial possesions of the French Empire. They attacked civilians in Paris, Marseille and other countless cities. This does not make them radicals.

The PLO is the front under which all the other Palestinian terrorist organizations are connected to. Therefore, Yassir Arrafat is responsible for the actions of all those cowards.

Anyway, I've had enough with the ignorant posters in this topic. Yosy, go to your local library and read up on the topic. Perhaps one day when you've been educated about this situation you can discuss this in a intelligent matter. So far I have not seen one shred of proof, that your posts have any factual information.

Arafat is not worst than Jew leaders of Irgun Stern and other terrorist organisations.
remember that the ideologists of terrorism were Jews, please it is not antisemitism, it is story. As Plechanov, Trotckij, etc

[W(M)D]

Or Irgun and Stern that attacked civilians, ruining arab villages, killing children and putting bombs in hotels (Hotel King David), were terrorists?

Both of the groups that you refer to were marginalised groups in their day and certainly did not generally represent the fighting arm of the 'yishuv' pre-'48. If you knew anything about the subject you would know this but you make them sound like they were 'prime mover' organisations out of all proportion to their small size & nominal importance.
Does this mean that Arafat only represents a marginalised element of the Pals? (according to your post above)
As for the King David Hotel, you should know that this was a (British) Headquarters part of the hotel and therefore a military target - you make it sound like it was a hit on a holiday resort.

[Robert_Mo]

^^^^I never refered the OAS. I was always talking about the FLN.


Therefore, Yassir Arrafat is responsible for the actions of all those cowards.

What a stupid claim. Arafat can't and doesn't control all the actions of the other groups. And they are independent from Al-Fatah: Arafat's group.

Anyways, the israelis are occupying a land that doesn't belong to them and are opressing a people, so they should get out, not to mention that they are breaking international treaties and human rights, left, right and center.

No wonder there is so much unrest among top IDF units: IAF pilots refuse to fly, Sayeret Matkal commandos write open letters of protest, and the number of refuseniks is increasing by the minute.

Because Jews are a great and civil nation, and inside of them they are many honest persons that understand that this war, bring big money to military industry and other lobbies, and it is not a war for the good of israel.

[Robert_Mo]

S'13 i know about suicide bombings , and i also know what causes them , the israeli attemps to quiet the palestinian people their citizens ,not by giving the arabs equal liberties, And i know what is going on in friggin Israel, Tell me what happened TODAY in Gaza IDF soldiers killed a 14 year old UNARMED boy and injured a 15 year old HANDICAP girl. WHAT was their crime they were climbing sand dunes 700 metres from a IDF guard tower, now tell me that the IDF doesnt terrorize palestinians , what could have those CHILDREN done, unarmed,700 m away?

I think that the israeli soldier was revenging any jew killed in nazi lagers. Or keeping himself trained!

[Robert_Mo]

Robert_Mo go back to reading the forum rules your breaking some of them.


It seems the same way of thinking of honest germans during Holocaust.
We don't kill innocent people, but jews are terrorists and traitors, we don't thief honest citizens, but we take every thing to jews because they are thiefs and criminals

Which rule? That I cann't wright thinks that you unlike?
The fact that lot of persecutors of Jews in the story, were sure that were doing a good and a right thing.

[SpikeATGM]

How do you explain that in Israeli Armed Forces, no Israelian Arab serves? To serve in IDF you must be a Jew. In US Armed Forces, they are people from all nations that serves as equels in duties and rights!

For security consideration it may be wise to exclude certain race out of mandatory service. It not only for the benefit of the security of the nations but I believe also for the position of the arab israeli.

Put yourself into the shoes of arab israel, would you be willing to squeeze the trigger against someone who shares the same faith and colour as you when being called upon to do so. It an awkward situation for everyone.

[b.scheller]

I'm no English teacher and my grammar is on many levels yet un-mastered but for all future refrence, there is no such word as Israelian...its Israeli. If you don't like using "Israeli" all the time, you can always use substitutes or just change the word order like the Army of Israel, or simply call it the IDF.

[Javehn]

Well , dude , you seams to arguing here with yourself , so good luck to you , hommie.

Every single post of your have mistake actually . Shows ignorance , big deal of it . Like this :


How do you explain that in Israeli Armed Forces, no Israelian Arab serves?

Hmm...Ok . Wrong .


I have seen so much children killed in cold blood by israelian Army, to beleive.


So you member of IDF ? Nice to meet you !! Whichunit you served ??

Well , good luck with it . Continue to argue with yourself , that is good sign .

[Robert_Mo]

S'13 i know about suicide bombings , and i also know what causes them , the israeli attemps to quiet the palestinian people their citizens ,not by giving the arabs equal liberties, And i know what is going on in friggin Israel, Tell me what happened TODAY in Gaza IDF soldiers killed a 14 year old UNARMED boy and injured a 15 year old HANDICAP girl. WHAT was their crime they were climbing sand dunes 700 metres from a IDF guard tower, now tell me that the IDF doesnt terrorize palestinians , what could have those CHILDREN done, unarmed,700 m away?

Since the "Pals" govern themselves, those so called liberties you claim are being denied have nothing to do with Israeli law or policy. In fact, if you don't like the way they live, you can only blame Arafat.

While we are on the subject.. which liberties do you believe Israel denies the Pals?

Also, how do you know the boy was unarmed? Did you read it from *******? Likewise, Pal snipers target babies being held in their mother's arms, or when Pals target their own children to use a propaganda. You seem to be forgetting that this is a war of good and evil, not just two opposing sides.

Which is the good?
An army that kills 14 years unarmed boys or 15 years handicap girls?
Perhaps I don't like their way of life, it's one my right, a sthey don't like my way of life, but this don't mean that they have not the right to LIVE their lives, or to be a target for funny shooting same as SS used to shoot Jew children!

[S'13]

Pretorian, which is the diference betwen terrorist organisations as Irgu and Stern and palestinian groups?

IrguNNNNNN was not a terrorist organisation.

Stern/Lechi could be looked at one, but their cause had a historical justification againt a REAL illegal occupation.

The Palestinians' goal to destroy a legitimate country and they diliberately target women and children while oppressing their own people to maintain power.

Irgun and Stern were not terrorist organizations?
Pardon me Sir, but they were not better than Al Qaeda. Killed innocent people, attacked legitime governments etc.

Irgun only targeted military targets and so it can't be regarded as a terrorist organization. If compering the Irgun to Al-Qaeda makes you feel good then so be it, it just shows your ignorance...

So an Al qaeda man that targets US military targets what is?

Al-Qaeda's main targets are civilian targets and so a person who is member of that group is a terrorist even if he attacks military targets.

Folke Berndadotte was a military target?

Your reffering to an action carried out by the LEHI, not the Irgun...

Lehi was a terrorist group and had the least support in the Yishuv, in fact when the leader of the group was captured and hanged, many Jews in the Land of Israel had felt relife.

Next time don't get mixed between the groups.

[Robert_Mo]

Irgun is no better than Al Qaeda? Now if those are not the words of an ignorant Antisemite, I ever I have read them.

Gentleman, it is strange how you run to use the word antisemite.
IRA is catholic but is terrorist as Al Qaeda.
Or israeli and jew terrorist are untouchable?

BTW Arabs and Jews are semit both.

OK, breaking with standard usage. That is an ignorant anti-Jewish comment that could only be made by a complete idiot or a NAZI.

It is proved that Jew and Arabs are the same race. You are a racist, with the same morality of a nazy that speaks about superior races.

yeah okay...genius rofl

I am not a linguist but shalom alehem-selam alechum are so simil!

[Robert_Mo]

Well , dude , you seams to arguing here with yourself , so good luck to you , hommie.

Every single post of your have mistake actually . Shows ignorance , big deal of it . Like this :


How do you explain that in Israeli Armed Forces, no Israelian Arab serves?

Hmm...Ok . Wrong .


I have seen so much children killed in cold blood by israelian Army, to beleive.



So you member of IDF ? Nice to meet you !! Whichunit you served ??

Well , good luck with it . Continue to argue with yourself , that is good sign .

No Sir! I am not Israelian, I don't prefer IDF, Waffen SS, NKVD etc, but perhaps you don't know, but in this world there is a free press, and free people, that are able to look the facts in critical way.
I will never forgive that Palestinian kid killed together wit his father!
It's a shame for all mankind!

[S'13]

Bur I think that if a man blows himself, maybe he has a great problem, perhaps is constricted, perhaps somebody burned his house, killed his kids etc.
How do you explain that in Israeli Armed Forces, no Israelian Arab serves? To serve in IDF you must be a Jew. In US Armed Forces, they are people from all nations that serves as equels in duties and rights!
I think that there is more racism inside Israel, than all the shamefull antisemism of history.
And I hate the jewish racism in the name of the same moral principles I hate the antisemitism, and the shamefull behavior of us christians against Jews in centuries.

rofl

I just love it when people talk about things they know nothing about...

Plenty of Druze and Bedouins (who are Arabs for your information) serve in the IDF. Not long ago a Druze became a navigator in the IAF and another Druze became a fighter in Shayetet 13, one of Israel's most celebrated SF units.

You should start reading more about the IDF because your head is full of bull****...

[b.scheller]

First of all, what was the Palestinian doing with his father in a zone that was gaurded off by the IDF? Second of all, the IDF gave the man many chances to get away! Third of all, the IDF forces were not in a position that they could have fired at the crouching man and his son.

More then likely a Palestinian gunman killed them so the Pal's could have a propaganda field day.

[Robert_Mo]

Bur I think that if a man blows himself, maybe he has a great problem, perhaps is constricted, perhaps somebody burned his house, killed his kids etc.
How do you explain that in Israeli Armed Forces, no Israelian Arab serves? To serve in IDF you must be a Jew. In US Armed Forces, they are people from all nations that serves as equels in duties and rights!
I think that there is more racism inside Israel, than all the shamefull antisemism of history.
And I hate the jewish racism in the name of the same moral principles I hate the antisemitism, and the shamefull behavior of us christians against Jews in centuries.

rofl



I just love it when people talk about things they know nothing about...

Plenty of Druze and Bedouins (who are Arabs for your information) serve in the IDF. Not long ago a Druze became a navigator in the IAF and another Druze became a fighter in Shayetet 13, one of Israel's most celebrated SF units.

You should start reading more about the IDF because your head is full of bull****...
Yes, the druzes are the ONLY israeli moslims that can serve in IDF. But there are hundred thousand of Israelian citizens that cann't serve theyr country!
A few as Jews were not permited to serve in different armies!

[Robert_Mo]

First of all, what was the Palestinian doing with his father in a zone that was gaurded off by the IDF? Second of all, the IDF gave the man many chances to get away! Third of all, the IDF forces were not in a position that they could have fired at the crouching man and his son.

More then likely a Palestinian gunman killed them so the Pal's could have a propaganda field day.

please...

[b.scheller]

The place was suppose to have been evacuated by all civilian personnel Pal's or Israelis 10 minutes earlier, thats fifteen minutes before the men was killed.

Second of all, you are too ignorant to even try, to comprehend this situation. You have made up your mind and will not change it, because you believe that the Israeli's are the one's, to be the root of all middle eastern problems :roll:

[Moledet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO, Why did you answer him? All the fun was when he argued with himseld and looked like a complete idiot.

[S'13]

So as IDF attacks civilians targets,is a terrorist organisation?
Or Irgun and Stern that attacked civilians, ruining arab villages, killing children and putting bombs in hotels (Hotel King David), were terrorists?

The IDF doesn't target civilians so it can't be considered a terrorist orginization, if so, you might as well call the British and the U.S armies terrorist orginizations.

As for the Bobming of The King David Hotel...

The "hotel" was the site for the British Military Command. It also served as the headquarters of the British Criminal Investigation Division. So it was a military target, also the Irgun sent three warnings about the planned attack to keep casualties to the minimum. The three phone calls were made to the French Consulate, to the hotel itself and to the "Palestine Post".

However the British didn't evacuate the building.

[Robert_Mo]

The place was suppose to have been evacuated by all civilian personnel Pal's or Israelis 10 minutes earlier, thats fifteen minutes before the men was killed.

Second of all, you are too ignorant to even try, to comprehend this situation. You have made up your mind and will not change it, because you believe that the Israeli's are the one's, to be the root of all middle eastern problems :roll:

Third you are ignorant, stupid and psicopatic!
Fourth, if you don't share my point of view, and insist to behave as a stupid, you are free to do it, but don't permit yourself to insult!
Fifth, there are persons that insist that there were no lagers, no crematoriums, and no final solution, but they are psicopathics and disonest as you.
Sixth, who kill children is nazi!

[b.scheller]

aaah sorry moledat...i should have known better :lol:

[b.scheller]

Third you are ignorant, stupid and psicopatic!
Fourth, if you don't share my point of view, and insist to behave as a stupid, you are free to do it, but don't permit yourself to insult!
Fifth, there are persons that insist that there were no lagers, no crematoriums, and no final solution, but they are psicopathics and disonest as you.
Sixth, who kill children is nazi!

could someone translate this into english please... rofl

[SpikeATGM]

Yes, the druzes are the ONLY israeli moslims that can serve in IDF. But there are hundred thousand of Israelian citizens that cann't serve theyr country!
A few as Jews were not permited to serve in different armies!

Arab Israeli will have to figure out how are they going to reconcile their loyalty to ones culture and religion with their loyalty to the state.

If they cannot even provide an answer to this, there is no way the state can entrust the responsibility of protecting the nation to them.

[Robert_Mo]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO, Why did you answer him? All the fun was when he argued with himseld and looked like a complete idiot.

Listen small idiot! So tell me
1-was right to kill jewish children by nazis?
2-nazis didn't kill them?

You are so rejected as human been, so brain damaged.

[Moledet]

The place was suppose to have been evacuated by all civilian personnel Pal's or Israelis 10 minutes earlier, thats fifteen minutes before the men was killed.

Second of all, you are too ignorant to even try, to comprehend this situation. You have made up your mind and will not change it, because you believe that the Israeli's are the one's, to be the root of all middle eastern problems :roll:

Third you are ignorant, stupid and psicopatic!
Fourth, if you don't share my point of view, and insist to behave as a stupid, you are free to do it, but don't permit yourself to insult!
Fifth, there are persons that insist that there were no lagers, no crematoriums, and no final solution, but they are psicopathics and disonest as you.
Sixth, who kill children is nazi!
Oh, you wanti order few chickeno? Jast a minet.

[Robert_Mo]

Third you are ignorant, stupid and psicopatic!
Fourth, if you don't share my point of view, and insist to behave as a stupid, you are free to do it, but don't permit yourself to insult!
Fifth, there are persons that insist that there were no lagers, no crematoriums, and no final solution, but they are psicopathics and disonest as you.
Sixth, who kill children is nazi!

could someone translate this into english please... rofl

Yes, you are only a donkey, that is not able to use facts and arguments, so insults.
All word see every day how do IDF kill innocent people!

[Moledet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO, Why did you answer him? All the fun was when he argued with himseld and looked like a complete idiot.

Listen small idiot! So tell me
1-was right to kill jewish children by nazis?
2-nazis didn't kill them?

You are so rejected as human been, so brain damaged.
I wish you could see how much I laugh here, man, you are killing me with your english.

P.S. I'm more than capable to counter your arguments, just put them in one post.

[Robert_Mo]

The place was suppose to have been evacuated by all civilian personnel Pal's or Israelis 10 minutes earlier, thats fifteen minutes before the men was killed.

Second of all, you are too ignorant to even try, to comprehend this situation. You have made up your mind and will not change it, because you believe that the Israeli's are the one's, to be the root of all middle eastern problems :roll:

Third you are ignorant, stupid and psicopatic!
Fourth, if you don't share my point of view, and insist to behave as a stupid, you are free to do it, but don't permit yourself to insult!
Fifth, there are persons that insist that there were no lagers, no crematoriums, and no final solution, but they are psicopathics and disonest as you.
Sixth, who kill children is nazi!
Oh, you wanti order few chickeno? Jast a minet.

You are ridiculos!
Discuss about how is nice to kill kids!
You take the habitude by jew kapos in lagers, it is known that more than half of jews were killed by other jews.
A singolar talent developed by the greatest terrorists of the wold, Plechanov, Trotcij, Ezov, Jagoda, Irgun, Stern 8Israeli leadership) etc.

[b.scheller]

when i read his posts, this is what i hear (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/supersonik.html)

rofl

[Robert_Mo]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO, Why did you answer him? All the fun was when he argued with himseld and looked like a complete idiot.

Listen small idiot! So tell me
1-was right to kill jewish children by nazis?
2-nazis didn't kill them?

You are so rejected as human been, so brain damaged.
I wish you could see how much I laugh here, man, you are killing me with your english.

P.S. I'm more than capable to counter your arguments, just put them in one post.

It is vain to discuss with criminals!
Maybe Zyclon B, was a right solution...

[Moledet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO, Why did you answer him? All the fun was when he argued with himseld and looked like a complete idiot.

Listen small idiot! So tell me
1-was right to kill jewish children by nazis?
2-nazis didn't kill them?

You are so rejected as human been, so brain damaged.
I wish you could see how much I laugh here, man, you are killing me with your english.

P.S. I'm more than capable to counter your arguments, just put them in one post.

It is vain to discuss with criminals!
Maybe Zyclon B, was a right solution...
Finaly you got the antisemitism out of you.
Again, put all your arguments together and I'll counter them all.

[SpikeATGM]

Robert_mo which country are you from?

[Sayeret]

It seems the same way of thinking of honest germans during Holocaust.
We don't kill innocent people, but jews are terrorists and traitors, we don't thief honest citizens, but we take every thing to jews because they are thiefs and criminals

Watch what you say Robert_Mo, reread the rules.

[Robert_Mo]

It seems the same way of thinking of honest germans during Holocaust.
We don't kill innocent people, but jews are terrorists and traitors, we don't thief honest citizens, but we take every thing to jews because they are thiefs and criminals

Watch what you say Robert_Mo, reread the rules.

Boy, still you insist that the death of an innocent from palestine, is not same shamefull as the death of a innocent jew, I have to say, perhaps there is a reason that world hated you so much!
It's a fact, that every time jews had power, they abused. See soviet union, comanded by jews, israeli, or Gestapo, comanded by Heidrich a Jew.
Perhaps you are really a damned people.

[b.scheller]

Get this bigot off the forum...

[S'13]

Boy, still you insist that the death of an innocent from palestine, is not same shamefull as the death of a innocent jew, I have to say, perhaps there is a reason that world hated you so much!
It's a fact, that every time jews had power, they abused. See soviet union, comanded by jews, israeli, or Gestapo, comanded by Heidrich a Jew.
Perhaps you are really a damned people.

Why hasn't this sad POS banned already? He is wasting space which could be used for perfectly good posts...

[Moledet]

אל תגיבו, תשלחו הודעה פרטית לזה שמפרסם את התמונות היומיות, אם כולנו נשלח יש סיכוי שהוא יקבל באן.
And for people that can't see hebrew but can read it:
Al tagivu, tishlehu hodaha leze shemefarsem et hatmunot hayomiot, eim kulanu nishlah az ulay hu yauf mipo.

[Robert_Mo]

Boy, still you insist that the death of an innocent from palestine, is not same shamefull as the death of a innocent jew, I have to say, perhaps there is a reason that world hated you so much!
It's a fact, that every time jews had power, they abused. See soviet union, comanded by jews, israeli, or Gestapo, comanded by Heidrich a Jew.
Perhaps you are really a damned people.

Why hasn't this sad POS banned already? He is wasting space which could be used for perfectly good posts...

How palestinians must be killed all?
I respect Israel, and Jews for lot of things, but the hate has made you crazy and criminals!

[UoUo]

Ho..FFS don't answer this ass...just a ass hole....**** you and go to hamas forum or something like that.

[Robert_Mo]

Ho..FFS don't answer this ass...just a ass hole....f*** you and go to hamas forum or something like that.

Please try to be polite! I am not an unarmed kid! :bash:

[UoUo]

Ho..FFS don't answer this ass...just a ass hole....f*** you and go to hamas forum or something like that.

Please try to be polite! I am not an unarmed kid! :bash:

**** you.

Next year i will join the army...i hope you will come here to defend to poor palstinain and i will meet you.

[Moledet]

Ho..FFS don't answer this ass...just a ass hole....f*** you and go to hamas forum or something like that.

Please try to be polite! I am not an unarmed kid! :bash:
Open a thread called, "Evil Israel and Nazi Jews" write there everything that you have against Israel and the Jews and we will answer every single thing that you'll write.

[b.scheller]

I've just asked one of the moderators to close this thread, things are getting way out of hand.

[Robert_Mo]

Ho..FFS don't answer this ass...just a ass hole....f*** you and go to hamas forum or something like that.

Please try to be polite! I am not an unarmed kid! :bash:

f*** you.

Next year i will join the army...i hope you will come here to defend to poor palstinain and i will meet you.

So you are only a stupid kid!
And if you will meet me unarmed...

[UoUo]

Ho..FFS don't answer this ass...just a ass hole....f*** you and go to hamas forum or something like that.

Please try to be polite! I am not an unarmed kid! :bash:

f*** you.

Next year i will join the army...i hope you will come here to defend to poor palstinain and i will meet you.

So you are only a stupid kid!
And if you will meet me unarmed...

Yes i am just a child at least i am not talking **** about thing that i don't know ****.

[Robert_Mo]

I've just asked one of the moderators to close this thread, things are getting way out of hand.

Thank to your stupid behaviour, as a **** you are, begun to insult other people, only because you don't share their ideas!
Tell to mods to bann a bad mother****er as you!

[Javehn]

Engrish me speek no !!! Pleaso , no ,no Engliza .
Me read no 12000492X10^12 post your . One good . Not many so . Nooo !!!


Rm=Fmm/Fi

R=Fmm/Fi [Fi=AT/Webber]

Za=Z1Z2+Z1Z3+Z2Z3/Z1

Xc=2PiFC /-90 Deg

Z=R+jX

u(t)=Umax*Cos(2PiFt+Deg)
i(t)=Imax*Cos(2PiFt+Deg)

Fi=Fu=Fi

S=P+JQ

[Robert_Mo]

Ho..FFS don't answer this ass...just a ass hole....f*** you and go to hamas forum or something like that.

Please try to be polite! I am not an unarmed kid! :bash:

f*** you.

Next year i will join the army...i hope you will come here to defend to poor palstinain and i will meet you.

So you are only a stupid kid!
And if you will meet me unarmed...

Yes i am just a child at least i am not talking **** about thing that i don't know ****.

So the dream of Israeli kids, is to join the army and to charge their frustrations killing unarmed persons, that think different from them?
What a democratic country! :roll:

[b.scheller]

ooh robert mo has hurt my feelings... :| it really hurts, i dont think i'll ever come back to this forum...

rofl

[Robert_Mo]

ooh robert mo has hurt my feelings... :| it really hurts, i dont think i'll ever come back to this forum...

rofl

Robert_Mo can hurt your ass, pardon me, your ass is well trained for hard treatment!

[UoUo]

Ho..FFS don't answer this ass...just a ass hole....f*** you and go to hamas forum or something like that.

Please try to be polite! I am not an unarmed kid! :bash:

f*** you.

Next year i will join the army...i hope you will come here to defend to poor palstinain and i will meet you.

So you are only a stupid kid!
And if you will meet me unarmed...

:roll:


Close the topic.

Yes i am just a child at least i am not talking **** about thing that i don't know ****.

So the dream of Israeli kids, is to join the army and to charge their frustrations killing unarmed persons, that think different from them?
What a democratic country! :roll:

[Beowulf]

locked by request -b