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The Dane
04-20-2009, 10:06 AM
(CNN) -- The opening of a United Nations conference in Switzerland on anti-racism was marred by chaotic scenes Monday as protests and a walkout by delegates disrupted a controversial address by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
The presence of the Iranian leader at the conference had already prompted Israel to withdraw its ambassador from Switzerland, while several countries including the United States are also boycotting the gathering.
Dozens of delegates walked out of the chamber as Ahmadinejad accused Israel and the West of making "an entire nation homeless under the pretext of Jewish suffering ... in order to establish a totally racist government."
He said Zionism, the Jewish national movement, "personifies racism," and accused Zionists of wielding economic and political resources to silence opponents. He also blasted the United States-led invasion of Afghanistan.
Protesters in brightly colored wigs interrupted Ahmadinejad as he began to speak, shouting: "You're a racist!" in accented English.
But some delegates cheered, while security officers dragged at least two protesters from the chamber.
Earlier, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman called Ambassador Ilan Elgar home to protest a meeting between the Swiss president and Ahmadinejad, Israel's foreign ministry said in a statement.
"The meeting of a president of a democratic country with a notorious Holocaust denier such as the Iranian president, who has openly declared his intention of wiping Israel off the map, is not in keeping with the values represented by Switzerland," the ministry said.
Netanyahu's office had earlier said the diplomatic move was a response to the presence of Ahmadinejad at the conference.
Ahmadinejad has said that the Holocaust is a myth, and Iran hosted a conference in 2006 questioning the Holocaust, in which about 6 million Jews were killed.
The United States, among others, is refusing to send envoys to the Durban Review Conference.
The U.N. high commissioner for human rights said Sunday that she regrets -- and is "shocked" by -- the United States' decision to boycott.
"I am shocked and deeply disappointed by the United States' decision not to attend a conference that aims to combat racism, xenophobia, racial discrimination and other forms of intolerance worldwide," High Commissioner Navi Pillay said in a written statement.
"A handful of states have permitted one or two issues to dominate their approach to this issue, allowing them to outweigh the concerns of numerous groups of people that suffer racism and similar forms of intolerance... These are truly global issues, and it is essential that they are discussed at a global level, however sensitive and difficult they may be," she said.
The U.S. State Department said Washington's decision was based in part on a conference document that "singles out" Israel in its criticism and conflicts with the United States' "commitment to unfettered free speech."
President Barack Obama noted Sunday that the United States had previously warned it would not attend the conference if the document was not sufficiently altered in advance. According to the State Department, the document contains language that "prejudges key issues that can only be resolved in negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians."
The language reaffirms the Durban Declaration and Programme of Actions from the 2001 conference in Durban, South Africa, which the United States has said it won't support.
Obama said the United States hopes to partner with other countries "to actually reduce discrimination around the globe, but this (conference) wasn't an opportunity to do it."
Australia, Canada, Germany and Italy, among others, are also boycotting the conference. Poland announced Monday it too would pull out of the conference.
Netanyahu on Monday praised the countries that refused to attend: "I congratulate the nations that boycotted the show of hate."
"Israel regrets that the conference ... has once again become hostage to one-sided, non-constructive politicization and biased rhetoric," Israel's ambassador to the United States, Sallai Meridor, said in a statement Sunday.
The head of the World Jewish Congress denounced the upcoming conference as a platform for anti-Semitism.
"It has already become clear that the Durban Review Conference will become yet another platform within the United Nations for spreading anti-Israel and anti-Jewish propaganda," said the group's president, Ronald Lauder.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/04/20/racism.conference/index.html
Ah nice photo of Hans Rudolf Merz behaving like a pathetic, clueless, spineless idiot...as always.
Gives a good impression!
Moledet
04-20-2009, 10:30 AM
The EU countries and Jordan (and overall 23 countries) left when he began speaking.
As for Switzerland, the ambassador should stay in Israel for a while. I can't really understand why we need an embassy there, in similar sized countries we only have a council so no need for an ambassador.
The walkout and opposition has been good to see, glad our country didn't attend.
Switek
04-20-2009, 11:10 AM
I'm proud that Poland refused to attend either.
Ozzy[NO]
04-20-2009, 11:33 AM
Headline in Iranian newspaper:
"The almighty Ahmadinejad delivered such a fiery speech, that the opposition from the evil Western regimes walked out in shame"
Well done...the spineless walks out, and the cowards didn't show up. Those who do stay, but dare not speak are spineless cowards....so what to do? Meet the arguments of this racist bastard with counterarguments, don't let this PoS set the agenda.
Iran - West 1-0
The actual conference is of course a farce, and calling it anti-racism is just laughable. But, I honestly think we(the West) would get more out of meeting this bull**** head on, and drop the awful political-correctnesses that has hit the West like a plague.
Breakfast in Vegas
04-20-2009, 11:37 AM
;4074453']
Iran - West 1-0Only in Iran. It was correct for so many nations to abandon this conference.
Ozzy[NO]
04-20-2009, 11:40 AM
Only in Iran. It was correct for so many nations to abandon this conference.
Of course, that's why I had my fake spin-doctor headline :)
kahn267
04-20-2009, 11:45 AM
is it just me or does Adhmedinejad remind you of that guy back in high school who used to let his mouth run loose and everyone was always like, "one day his going to get his ass kicked" or "I cant believe this dude hasn't been taught a lesson yet" ???
Switek
04-20-2009, 11:46 AM
;4074453']Headline in Iranian newspaper:
"The almighty Ahmadinejad delivered such a fiery speech, that the opposition from the evil Western regimes walked out in shame"
Well done...the spineless walks out, and the cowards didn't show up. Those who do stay, but dare not speak are spineless cowards....so what to do? Meet the arguments of this racist bastard with counterarguments, don't let this PoS set the agenda.
Iran - West 1-0
Priceless... rofl It's commie propaganda worthy...
Jaeger07
04-20-2009, 12:00 PM
is it just me or does Adhmedinejad remind you of that guy back in high school who used to let his mouth run loose and everyone was always like, "one day his going to get his ass kicked" or "I cant believe this dude hasn't been taught a lesson yet" ???
You know, Saddam had the same show going on back in his glory days. Look where it took him...
Weasel
04-20-2009, 12:03 PM
I'm proud that Poland refused to attend either.
I´m not proud that Germany refused to attend. I would have prefered to attend and to leave the hall together with all the others as one man.
ziarratt
04-20-2009, 12:21 PM
The EU countries and Jordan (and overall 23 countries) left when he began speaking.
As for Switzerland, the ambassador should stay in Israel for a while. I can't really understand why we need an embassy there, in similar sized countries we only have a council so no need for an ambassador.
and 450 Human rights NGO listening when he bagan speaking
I've just seen the "walkout"... it was beautiful. Do you know which countries did they represent?
Macs.
04-20-2009, 12:25 PM
...and besides all the nonsens around Ahmadinejad, what kind of ****ty "Anti-Racism" conference is this ?
Yeah sure, they are gonna fight world racism with their nice little conference.
It looks like a huge party for people who do not have jobs to follow, but instead sack in the money/benefits they get for doing such laughable conferences and talky talky deluxe.
So now they sit in Switzerland for a few days in some nice hotels, have some nice dinners and celebrate their ultimate showdown against racism with listening to a guy/nations in which certain religions, political and ****** views are CRIMES. That's like having a Anti-Car conference with a speech from the Mercedes CEO.
David_CZ
04-20-2009, 12:29 PM
The walk-out was temporary, and most diplomats returned to the plenary after Ahmadinejad finished speaking, but the Czech delegation said it would not return to the conference. The Czech Republic holds the European Union presidency.
Moledet
04-20-2009, 12:30 PM
and 450 Human rights NGO listening when he bagan speaking
Listening to what? Most were in a separate room watching him on video but there was no translation, they couldn't understand a word.
As a protest they entered the main hall but at the exact same time the countries delegates got up and left so they left with them.
The listeners also cheered and clapped when people from the crowd were shouting "racist" at him and when the countries delegates left.
Ban Ki Mon, although he didn't leave condemned his speech.
Lazy Lob
04-20-2009, 12:33 PM
The Lynx effect, or rather the lack of......
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8277/lynxz.jpg
...and besides all the nonsens around Ahmadinejad, what kind of ****ty "Anti-Racism" conference is this ?
Yeah sure, they are gonna fight world racism with their nice little conference.
It looks like a huge party for people who do not have jobs to follow, but instead sack in the money/benefits they get for doing such laughable conferences and talky talky deluxe.
So now they sit in Switzerland for a few days in some nice hotels, have some nice dinners and celebrate their ultimate showdown against racism with listening to a guy/nationsi in which certain religions, political and ****** views are CRIMES. That's like having a Anti-Car conference with a speech from the Mercedes CEO.
...and having the participants driven to the conference in german V10 limos.
Absolutely ridiculous concept to begin with. An "anti racism® conference" brought to you by an organization which puts Zimbabwe on the council of sustainable development.
Seriously what is this world coming to?
Moledet
04-20-2009, 12:38 PM
You mean AXE effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9tWZB7OUSU
Moledet
04-20-2009, 12:41 PM
Listening to what?!!
to this:
Take a look in the mirror and go execute some gay person...oh wait, no homo******s in Iran.
Or better, threat Iranian members in Arabic like on the Iran Army Day thread.
ziarratt
04-20-2009, 12:51 PM
Take a look in the mirror and go execute some gay person...oh wait, no homo******s in Iran.
Or better, threat Iranian members in Arabic like on the Iran Army Day thread.
hey dude
Dont sophistry !
i dont tell anything about homo******. racism and homo****** right are two different issue .
i dont like ahmadinejad's speech about homo****** but i agree his speech about Palestine
Ozzy[NO]
04-20-2009, 12:53 PM
I was hoping ahmadinejad might get a bullet in the face during his speech..
Or at the very least a shoe!
hey dude
Dont sophistry !
i dont tell anything about homo******. racism and homo****** right are two different issue .
i dont like ahmadinejad's speech about homo****** but i agree his speech about Palestine
You want to talk about racism? Lets start talking about bahai treatment in Iran..
How about womens rights? religious rights? the fact that iran has one of the highest rates of capital punishment in the world? the fact that iran is one of the only countries which still practices juvenile capital punishment?
the lack of free press? etc
We could go on for days..
Moledet
04-20-2009, 12:58 PM
hey dude
Dont sophistry !
i dont tell anything about homo******. racism and homo****** right are two different issue .
i dont like ahmadinejad's speech about homo****** but i agree his speech about Palestine
Let's say it that way, if Palestinians were living as Sunnis in Iran they would beg that Israel bomb the crap out of that place.
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD225609
Also at the conference, Palestinian Doctor brings Libyan hypocrites to account
Amidst the anti-Israel rants from all the usual NGOs, Libyan ambassador Najjat Al-Hajjaji (who was chairing the meeting) gave the floor to UN Watch...
But sitting in their chair was not Hillel Neuer, the group's executive director and usual mouthpiece, but Ashraf El Hagog, the Palestinian doctor who was falsely accused of and sentenced to death for infecting hundreds of Libyan children with HIV (along with five Bulgarian nurses). El Hagog and the nurses were held in Libya on death row for nine years, mistreated and tortured, until their release was negotiated by France last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UI6f8_6C0
Check out up to date news from the great people at UNWatch:
http://blog.unwatch.org/
BearInBunnySuit
04-20-2009, 01:04 PM
Ban Ki Mon, although he didn't leave condemned his speech.
It must have been very awkward for him.
Moledet
04-20-2009, 01:06 PM
It must have been very awkward for him.
Ahmadinijad's speech wasn't as much of an embarrassment as the video posted above.
Freedom of speech my a**....If she could, she'd throw the hummer and split his head open.
Switek
04-20-2009, 01:17 PM
why my pic censored?
Why ?
you will not people see the truth
reason: not smart
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Is there a list of the countries that walked out/boycotted?
Ordie
04-20-2009, 02:08 PM
Iran is on the PR defensive lately.
Since Obama's Persian New Year Message, Iran has been on a public relations defensive.
Largely due to the trial and conviction of US journalist Roxana Saberi. And now Ahmadinejad presence and comments has made Iran the odd man out with its European investor countries.
Who boycotted, who walked out of racism talks
By The Associated Press – 37 minutes ago
Here are countries that are boycotting the U.N. conference on racism in Geneva this week:
_Germany
_Australia
_Canada
_Israel
_Italy
_Netherlands
_New Zealand
_Poland
_United States
Here are countries that walked out of the conference to protest the attack on Israel by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
_European Union members, including:
_Austria
_Belgium
_Britain
_Bulgaria
_Cyprus
_Czech Republic (has left the conference for good)
_Denmark
_Estonia
_Finland
-France
_Greece
-Hungary
_Ireland
_Latvia
_Lithuania
_Luxembourg
_Malta
_Portugal
_Romania
_Slovakia
_Slovenia
_Spain
_Sweden
_Also:
_St. Kitts and Nevis
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSfV1wwYy9xGdMOBYCLtnsQgDQ4wD97MB8F00
Mackie
04-20-2009, 02:28 PM
I´m not proud that Germany refused to attend. I would have prefered to attend and to leave the hall together with all the others as one man.
Wasting of fuel.
Scratching the Star of David on his car + those crazy Techno dancing jews in front of it's hotel.
That's protest.
frenchy
04-20-2009, 02:34 PM
Who boycotted, who walked out of racism talks
By The Associated Press – 37 minutes ago
Here are countries that are boycotting the U.N. conference on racism in Geneva this week:
_Germany
_Australia
_Canada
_Israel
_Italy
_Netherlands
_New Zealand
_Poland
_United States
Here are countries that walked out of the conference to protest the attack on Israel by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
_European Union members, including:
_Austria
_Belgium
_Britain
_Bulgaria
_Cyprus
_Czech Republic (has left the conference for good)
_Denmark
_Estonia
_Finland
-France
_Greece
-Hungary
_Ireland
_Latvia
_Lithuania
_Luxembourg
_Malta
_Portugal
_Romania
_Slovakia
_Slovenia
_Spain
_Sweden
_Also:
_St. Kitts and Nevis
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSfV1wwYy9xGdMOBYCLtnsQgDQ4wD97MB8F00
It seems there is a break between western countries and others. And the most interesting is that those ones who almost respect human rights are boycotting and the others who practicing persecutions and other forms of racism are present. What a joke.:)
Lazy Lob
04-20-2009, 04:00 PM
Also at the conference, Palestinian Doctor brings Libyan hypocrites to account
Amidst the anti-Israel rants from all the usual NGOs, Libyan ambassador Najjat Al-Hajjaji (who was chairing the meeting) gave the floor to UN Watch...
But sitting in their chair was not Hillel Neuer, the group's executive director and usual mouthpiece, but Ashraf El Hagog, the Palestinian doctor who was falsely accused of and sentenced to death for infecting hundreds of Libyan children with HIV (along with five Bulgarian nurses). El Hagog and the nurses were held in Libya on death row for nine years, mistreated and tortured, until their release was negotiated by France last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UI6f8_6C0
Check out up to date news from the great people at UNWatch:
http://blog.unwatch.org/
Excellent find uTu. Najat is a bit of a MILF dominatrix, I bet she coifs down below, but I digress.
WTF is this Arab commission of ooman rights? Ain't that an oxymoron?
French ambassador was the first one to stand up and walk out.
timetraveller
04-20-2009, 04:28 PM
Makes you wonder , If persons basic right to make a point is continually interrupted all because of the content and especially at a UN Conference ..
Goes to show how twisted those that represent the UN are ..
Rule for one and Rule for Another ....
Octavariable
04-20-2009, 04:36 PM
How very ironic that this farce "anti-racism" conference is held the same day has the national holocaust remmeberance day in Israel, and, wait for it..
Adolf Hitler's 120th birthday
:|
Umbro2914
04-20-2009, 05:01 PM
nice show of solidarity
Persian girl_Artemis
04-20-2009, 05:41 PM
Ahmadinejad: What befell freedom of speech?
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has questioned the advocates of "freedom of speech" about the sincerity of their conviction.
After Israeli advocates staged a walkout in the midst of the Iranian president's speech at the UN anti-racism summit, President Ahmadinejad criticized the "so-called advocates of freedom of information."
"Why is it that the so-called advocates of freedom of information fear hearing other people's opinions," the Iranian president asked.
Speaking at a news conference in Geneva after addressing the United Nations conference on racism, President Ahmadinejad described the countries which boycotted or walked out of the UN anti-racism summit as "arrogant and selfish."
"In our opinion, this is arrogance and selfishness and the root cause of the world's problems," President Ahmadinejad told the Monday press conference.
"The subject of this conference is anti-racism and the advocates of racism did not attend this summit," he added.
The Iranian president's speech at the Durban Review Conference at the UN European headquarters was disrupted several times by protesters who shouted slogans and held placards before they were escorted out of the conference room by security guards.
President Ahmadinejad's anti-Israeli remarks also caused 23 European Union delegatees to walk out of the conference room.
CS/HGH
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=92039§ionid=351020101
Kaplanr
04-20-2009, 05:51 PM
If he'd have had a shoe thrown at him, it would have been a complete day.
apadana
04-20-2009, 05:53 PM
Listening to what? Most were in a separate room watching him on video but there was no translation, they couldn't understand a word.
As a protest they entered the main hall but at the exact same time the countries delegates got up and left so they left with them.
The listeners also cheered and clapped when people from the crowd were shouting "racist" at him and when the countries delegates left.
Ban Ki Mon, although he didn't leave condemned his speech.
Everybody is provided live translation of every speech at any language on any UN conference. I don’t know where your getting you facts from.
Also, if you watch the video, people cheered Ahmadienjad when he said “ I apologize for the acts of these few misinformed individuals” they didn’t cheer the 2 protesters . And its interesting to point out the 2 individuals who protested and disrupted the beginning of his speech were two Jewish American tourists. And then when Ahmadienjad started talking about the establishment the “Zionist” state after WII is when those delegates started leaving.. Ahmadinejads comments were not constructive or appropriate but the majority of the participants decided to listen to him and applauded him this includes Russia , China , Japan, South Korea, Brazil , India and many influential nations. In fact, the Moshe Kantor the president of the European Jewish Congress said “shame on those who applauded him”.
Ahmadinejad: What befell freedom of speech?
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has questioned the advocates of "freedom of speech" about the sincerity of their conviction.
After Israeli advocates staged a walkout in the midst of the Iranian president's speech at the UN anti-racism summit, President Ahmadinejad criticized the "so-called advocates of freedom of information."
Freedom of speech includes freedom of 'not listening to nonsense'. He can say whatever he wants, we don't have to listen.
But who would expect Ahmadinejad to know anything about the mechanisms of the free world..
Persian girl_Artemis
04-20-2009, 06:10 PM
Ahmadinejad snubs Kouchner threats: Durban II
Addressing a UN anti-racism confab Iran's president minces no words in calling Israel 'a totally racist government' formed on the back of 'military aggression'.
Snubbing Monday warnings by the French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the post-World War II military invasions on Palestine which preceded the propping up of the entity, were explained by 'Jewish suffering'.
"They resorted to military aggression to make an entire nation homeless under the pretext of Judaism," he said.
"They sent migrants from Europe, the United States and other parts of the world in order to establish a totally racist government in the occupied Palestine."
Kouchner had earlier warned that all European envoys would leave the UN anti-racism summit, should Ahmadinejad level 'racist or anti-Semitic accusations' against Israel.
Ahmadinejad's comments were followed by the walking out of the delegates from several European supporters of Israel. Iran's president, however, continued his speech and was applauded by the audience.
France, which had sent its representative to the event, also reportedly condemned the presentation as a 'hate speech' (http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=92020§ionid=351020101) after the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hailed those who had boycotted 'this festival of hate'.
Following hectic Tel Aviv efforts to criminalize the event, the United States was the first to impose the boycott opposing the language the conference's draft document used to characterize Israel
The two had also slammed the previous conference held in Durban, South Africa in 2001, for being anti-Semitic because it brought into focus Israel's ill-treatment of the Palestinians and attempted to pass a resolution likening Zionism to racism.
A protesting European official was quoted by DPA as saying that the delegations were offended by the 'inflammatory remarks'.
As the president was walking up to the podium, some three clown impersonators attempted at obstruction shouting 'racist, racist'.
They were ejected by the guards and Ahmadinejad commenced his presentation saying, "I would like to ask the respected audience to forgive these people. They are misinformed."
"Coercion and arrogance is the origin of oppression and wars. Although many of proponents of racism today condemn racial discrimination in the words and slogans, a number of powerful countries have been authorized to decide for other nations based on their own interests and at their own discretion and they can easily violate all laws and humanitarian values as they have done so," the Iranian president had said earlier in his remarks.
HN/MMN
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=92008§ionid=351020101
Persian girl_Artemis
04-20-2009, 06:13 PM
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Persian girl_Artemis
04-20-2009, 06:17 PM
Zionists’ advantage taking of int’l political means should end
Durban, April 21, IRNA – IRI President said here Monday ignorance is not the major problem related to Zionism, arguing, “In campaign against this malignant phenomenon cultural work does not suffice, since there is also need for ending Zionists’ advantage taking of international political means.”
According to IRNA Political Desk reporter, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who was speaking at the International Durban Review Conference (Durban II) in Geneva, themed Campaign against Racism, added in his address, “The demand of the nations should be respected, the strong will of the unified governments for uprooting the openly observed racism should be harmonized, and the brave move towards reforming the international relations and apparatus should begin.”
He reiterated, “Today the human society is faced with a type of racism whose ugly face has became big shame for the global community.”
Ahmadinejad considered Zionism as the full manifestation of racism, adding, “Zionism’s claim of being religiously inclined is a lie resorting to which it has managed to manipulate the feelings of some ignorant people and to hide its real face.”
The Iranian political leader said, “What needs to be put in the focus of attention is the (major) objectives of certain big powers and those that have vast interests around the globe, taking advantage of their economic and political influence and their broad scale media power in vain, relying on the comprehensive backing of the Zionist regime to decrease the ugliness of its existence.”
The president added, “Beyond doubt all of you have become well aware of the great efforts made by world power centers aimed at deviating the path of this assembly from its real mission’s pathway.”
Ahmadinejad said, “Unfortunately, the literature of supporting the Zionists that is in other words partnership and being accomplices with them in the crimes they commit, is seen clearly and this increases the responsibility of the representatives of nations at the atmosphere of this anti-human trend and appropriate reforms in relations and behaviors.”
Ahmadinejad emphasized, “We should know that keeping a broad global potential, such as the one at this assembly, away from the path of achieving its major objectives is equal to (contributing to) the continuation of one of the ugliest, most evident forms of racism.”
He said that the prerequisite for defending the human rights today is defending the rights of nations to enjoy their free will in major global decision makings free from the influence of certain powers, and in making efforts aimed at reforming the global relations and apparatuses .”
The president said, “Therefore, this gathering is the scene of a great test and the public opinion of the world nations, both today and tomorrow, would judge about us.”
Ahmadinejad added, “The general conditions of the world moves towards the emergence of major alterations rapidly. The power relations have become very fragile and the sound of breaking of the columns of the global oppression system is heard.”
Pointing out that the major political and economic structures of the world are on the verge of collapsing, he said, “The political and security crises are deepening and the expanding global economic crisis for which no bright future is predictable reveals the qualitative and quantitative dimensions of the entire developments ahead.”
The Iranian president said, “I have many times stressed the need for returning from the wrong path that the ruling global management system has been paving and warned about the consequences of delaying such a move.”
Ahmadinejad added, “Today, too, at this cherished global gathering, addressing you and the entire managers, thinkers and world nations that are thirsty for peace, freedom, advancement and well being, I say that the unjust ruling system in the world is at the end of its (doomed) path.”
He added, “Reaching the end of this dead-end street was inevitable, because the logic behind this imposed management is oppressive, and because the logic of the collective move of the world is a goal oriented, humane and monotheist move towards perfection; a move that would oppose any move or plan that is not in line with the interests of the nations.”
Ahmadinejad said that the victory of the righteous over falsehood is the bright future of the mankind and the establishment of a just global system is the promise of God and the entire prophets and the shared historic hope of the entire societies and generations.
He added, “The coming true of such a future is the obvious fruit of the existence of absolute knowledge behind creation and based on the belief of the entire believers in God and the very valuable stand of the human beings.”
The IRI President reiterated, “The shape taking of the global society, practical possibility of the shape taking of a shared global system and the entry of the thinkers, managers and people of the world for dynamic and fair participation in major, fundamental decision makings is the doomed path of this great move.”
Ahmadinejad said, “Today there are great scientific, technical and information technology potentials that have provided a shared portion for the learning of the global society and an appropriate path for the manifestation of the shared global system.”
BIG POWERS CARE MERELY FOR THEIR OWN WEALTH AND POWER
The IRI President said all that the big world powers care for is their own wealth, their own power and their own nations, while the world nations are worthless in their eyes.
Ahmadinejad added his address at the International Durban Review Conference in Geneva, “Is not the occupation of Afghanistan among the manifestations of selfishness, racism, discrimination and humiliation of nations?”
Referring to the global economic crisis, he said, “Who are the officials in charge of the emergence of the global economic crisis? Where did the crisis originate from? From Africa? From Asia? Or did it initiate in the United States followed by Europe and their allies?”
The president added, “The big powers that have for long periods of time been imposing unjust economic rules and regulations at the global scene have established the economic and monetary system of the world while the others have had no interference, neither in the processes, nor in the policy makings.”
He added, “They do not even permit their own people, or the other nations to supervise, and by abandoning the observation of ethics, have shaped the rules only in favor of the capitalists.”
Ahmadinejad said that the big powers have a special definition for the market that deprives many parties of the chance to compete and they also transfer their own problems onto the others, so that today both the crisis and tens of billion of (dollars of) deficits have returned to themselves.”
Ahmadinejad said, “Today, in order to improve the current situation they have gained no result form injecting hundreds of billion dollars into the companies and the stock exchange markets.”
The president meanwhile said that the major root for racism is not understanding the reality of man as God’s special and elite creature, adding, “Deviation from the right path of life, ignoring the objectives behind God’s creation of man, and thinking about the philosophy of existence have led to shattering the horizons of man’s view and made him act for fleeting interests.”
Ahmadinejad reiterated, “These powers by eliminating the equal opportunities broadened the range of their own development so that they became the promoters of the ugliest shape of racism.”
Our country’s president said, “We need to begin increasing public awareness about the philosophy of mankind’s existence as the means for the campaign against such manifestations, and the prerequisite for that is returning to the observation of the spiritual, and ethical values, and exalted humane merits, which is verily monotheism.”
http://www.irna.ir/En/View/FullStory/?NewsId=445727&IdLanguage=3
Moledet
04-20-2009, 06:17 PM
apadena if you say so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZtSBl_4o4o
priceless, was worth inviting him to see his face during this protest.
p.s. they wee French students with the clown hats.
apadana
04-20-2009, 06:31 PM
apadena if you say so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZtSBl_4o4o
priceless, was worth inviting him to see his face during this protest.
p.s. they wee French students with the clown hats.
I say so because I have meet people who regularly attend UN conferences. Also, it’s a well known fact and expected for the UN to provide a live translation . They have translators in special section of the building where they translate word by word .
what does you video prove besides what I just pointed in my previous post about the delegates getting up and leaving at a certain point into his speech?
And you might be right about the 2 protesters being French since they have a accent English
Moledet
04-20-2009, 06:36 PM
I know that there's a translation, many of the NGOs were in a separate room watching him on a screen. Inside the hall there was translation, in that separate hall there wasn't any translation as one of the Israeli women rights NGOs said, they entered to protest this but then the delegations left so they left with them.
The video shows that everyone is clapping hands to the western countries leaving during the speech. The only people I noticed that were clapping to Ahmadinijad's words were some of the Muslim countries, they were naturally standing and clapping enthusiastically while it looks like most of the crowd is sitting there.
Ozzy[NO]
04-20-2009, 06:46 PM
And the farce continues. I truly wonder how Iranian news will spin this into something great, Ahmadinijad makes a complete and utter fool of himself.
Edit: Ah, I see the links provided from "Artemis" are Iranian. Looks great :)
Climber
04-20-2009, 07:30 PM
;4075445']And the farce continues. I truly wonder how Iranian news will spin this into something great, Ahmadinijad makes a complete and utter fool of himself.
Edit: Ah, I see the links provided from "Artemis" are Iranian. Looks great :)
It is considered propaganda? rofl
Anyway, So, the people who says that Ahmadinejad is just a loon and have no importance, how the Iranian military takes these situations, and the clerical echelon?
Something sound very fishy about that Ahmedinejad have no importance in Iran.
Ordie
04-20-2009, 07:43 PM
Something sound very fishy about that Ahmedinejad have no importance in Iran.
There is a power struggle within Iran.
The conviction of Roxana Saberi and the UN Conference rehtoric was a means by a specific faction to sabotage any reapproachment with the US and the West at large.
It seems to be backfiring since it failed to get an immediate kneejerk response from DC to foment anti-us anger in Iran.
Moreover, for once the US and Europeans are not divided on this issue, and Iran may need to reconsider its tone given European trade links.
Climber
04-20-2009, 08:05 PM
There is a power struggle within Iran.
The conviction of Roxana Saberi and the UN Conference rehtoric was a means by a specific faction to sabotage any reapproachment with the US and the West at large.
It seems to be backfiring since it failed to get an immediate kneejerk response from DC to foment anti-us anger in Iran.
Moreover, for once the US and Europeans are not divided on this issue, and Iran may need to reconsider its tone given European trade links.
your take sounds right.
We will see what happens then, because all these could become in bloody rhetoric pretty fast.
loganinkosovo
04-20-2009, 08:20 PM
"The U.N. high commissioner for human rights said Sunday that she regrets -- and is "shocked" by -- the United States' decision to boycott.
"I am shocked and deeply disappointed by the United States' decision not to attend a conference that aims to combat racism, xenophobia, racial discrimination and other forms of intolerance worldwide," High Commissioner Navi Pillay said in a written statement."
Why am I not surprised the U.N. high commissioner for human rights just doesn't get it?
They must have cut her off before she could say "I mean, He's just talking about the Dirty Jews, Right? What's the Big Fuss?"
Gambit
04-20-2009, 08:34 PM
Whats truly sad is the fact that people like him would have never been in charge of Iran if it weren't for the U.S. and U.K.
How Ironic.
Ordie
04-20-2009, 09:07 PM
"I am shocked and deeply disappointed by the United States' decision not to attend a conference that aims to combat racism, xenophobia, racial discrimination and other forms of intolerance worldwide," High Commissioner Navi Pillay said in a written statement."
The election of President Obama in it of itself is a testiment of how far we have progressed in dealing with bigotry and racism. It also gave the Europeans some backbone for once in boycotting the speech.
Here are some comments from the UN:
'The best riposte is not to walk away'
Apr. 20, 2009
Tovah Lazaroff , THE JERUSALEM POST
UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay called on countries to remain engaged in this week's UN anti-racism conference in Geneva, even though Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad used it as a platform on Monday to call for the destruction of Israel.
"The best riposte to this type of event is to reply, to correct, and not to walk away; not to withdraw and boycott the Conference. If that happens, who is going to provide a rational response to what had been said?" she asked.
"Generally, I feel that if you focus on this one intervention you would be doing a great disservice to the outcome of this conference and a great disservice to the expectations of victims of racism," she said.
Prior to the start of the conference, nine countries, including the US and Israel, had announced their intention to boycott the event, partially out of fear that it would disintegrate into an anti-Semitic debacle similar to the first such conference which was held in Durban in 2001.
A UN spokesman told < i>The Jerusalem Post</I> that it was unclear whether any other countries planned to add their names to that in the aftermath of Ahmadinejad's speech.
Pillay harshly condemned the speech in a press conference she held along with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon.
"It is improper for a United Nations forum to be used for political grandstanding and I find this totally objectionable," said Pilay.
"Much of the speech of the president of Iran was clearly beyond the scope of the conference, which is, as you all know, racism, racial discrimination and action plans to implement the undertakings made by the states eight years ago," said Pillay.
Still, she defended Ahmadinejad's right to address the 2009 World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance.
At the United Nations, she said, "everybody has a right to speak, and more especially a head of ctate. And that was his right."
Ban added that it was unusual for a head of state to give this type of speech.
"I have not experienced this kind of destructive proceedings in an assembly, in a conference, by any one Member State. It was a totally unacceptable situation," he said.
In an earlier statement he said, "I deplore the use of this platform by the Iranian president to accuse, divide and even incite. This is the opposite of what this conference seeks to achieve. This makes it significantly more difficult to build constructive solutions to the very real problem of racism," the statement read.
"It is deeply regrettable that my plea to look to the future of unity was not heeded by the Iranian president. At my earlier meeting with him, I stressed the importance of the conference to galvanize the will of the international community toward the common cause of the fight against racism," it continued.
Ban also noted that he "reminded the president that the UN General Assembly had adopted the resolutions to revoke the equation of Zionism with racism and to reaffirm the historical facts of the Holocaust respectively." "We must all turn away from such a message in both form and substance," he said.
Source:http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1239710739635&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
So Iran has also managed to piss-off an otherwise diplomatic UN for ruining a conference.
It seems that the Iranian hardliners have been pushing everybodys button for the past week.
The Americans, Europeans and the UN itself.
Moledet
04-20-2009, 09:19 PM
"The best riposte to this type of event is to reply, to correct, and not to walk away; not to withdraw and boycott the Conference. If that happens, who is going to provide a rational response to what had been said?" she asked.
How can you provide a rational response if when you do you are told that you are speaking out of the conference context and your microphone is shut?
As long as Libya, Cuba and the likes control the microphones it's a useless conference.
Ordie
04-20-2009, 09:26 PM
As long as Libya, Cuba and the likes control the microphones it's a useless conference.
It depends upon Obama.
So far he's been on a diplomatic offensive, deflating, shaming and pressuring Cuba, Venezuela and Iran from thier soap boxes.
ren0312
04-20-2009, 09:57 PM
There is a power struggle within Iran.
The conviction of Roxana Saberi and the UN Conference rehtoric was a means by a specific faction to sabotage any reapproachment with the US and the West at large.
It seems to be backfiring since it failed to get an immediate kneejerk response from DC to foment anti-us anger in Iran.
Moreover, for once the US and Europeans are not divided on this issue, and Iran may need to reconsider its tone given European trade links.
Frankly Saberi may be an Iranian problem, after all she does hold Iranian citizenship, and as far as I know Iran doe snot have a law which prohibits its citizens from voluntarily renouncing thier citizenhship.
BloodyTalon
04-20-2009, 10:26 PM
And now a musical number that best exemplifies this conference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g094B573iWI
It looks as though that the UN is on a fixed path to be the next League of Nations, if it isn't there already.
Ordie
04-20-2009, 11:23 PM
It looks as though that the UN is on a fixed path to be the next League of Nations, if it isn't there already.
The UN is just a forum, not a governing body.
The Secretary General is a facilitator, not a chief executive.
Without the UN, our world would be in bad shape.
Switek
04-21-2009, 02:07 AM
...
Without the UN, our world would be in bad shape.
With all criticism toward UN it plays as buffer what makes that some conflicts are stopped ("solved") in diplomatic phase.
Ordie
04-21-2009, 02:21 AM
With all criticism toward UN it plays as buffer what makes that some conflicts are stopped ("solved") in diplomatic phase.
The UN is more than dealing with conflicts. For example, without the World Heath Organization (WHO), a UN agency, we would still be dealing with small pox.
Without the IATA and ICAO, both UN Organizations, planes would be colliding more often.
tecumseh11
04-21-2009, 02:30 AM
The walk out was a short-sighted and stupid move. It greatly damaged the prestige and credibility of the UN just for the sake of a publicity stunt. I see shades of Japan walking out from the League of Nations, which spelled the end for the League of Nations. This is the thin end of the wedge. Western leaders need to show some restraint. Using a walk out to make themselves look better for the media, does the reverse for the UN.
For better or worse we need the UN. I don't want to see World War III.
Godspeed-
04-21-2009, 03:29 AM
The walk out was a short-sighted and stupid move. It greatly damaged the prestige and credibility of the UN
Yeah, the UN has so much credibility nowdays it's amazing!
For better or worse we need the UN. I don't want to see World War III.
You will definately see a WW3 if mad men like Ahmedinejad will get the stage more often.
I don't understand why are you pissed anyway. Nations that attented already knew what they are going into but I guess the Bull****-meter went off scale for them so they bailed out.
Freedom or speach, no?
HangPC2
04-21-2009, 03:42 AM
Muslim Countries : We're condemned Israel because we support Palestinians
BloodyTalon
04-21-2009, 03:45 AM
The walk out was a short-sighted and stupid move. It greatly damaged the prestige and credibility of the UN just for the sake of a publicity stunt. I see shades of Japan walking out from the League of Nations, which spelled the end for the League of Nations. This is the thin end of the wedge. Western leaders need to show some restraint. Using a walk out to make themselves look better for the media, does the reverse for the UN.
For better or worse we need the UN. I don't want to see World War III.
The UN isn't what's keeping us from World War III; its the fact that a war on that scale would completely devastate civilization one way or another (i.e. either nukes are used or the world economy completely collapses) that keeps us from World War III.
As it stands now, the UN is so badly managed that it has become less of a diplomatic forum and more of a shining example of how not to utilized soft power. Just take a look at the farce this so called conference has become: it is headed by representatives from a nation with extremely suspect human rights, one of the main speakers in a conference is a leader who blames everything as part of an insidious conspiracy by the Jews...pardon, the "Zionists", and when one of the speakers attempts to point to a human right violation in relation to race (you know, what the entire point of the goddamn conference was about), the head of the committee blatantly attempts to silence him because he is criticizing her country. The European delegates didn't nullify the credibility of the UN: that institute is doing a damn good job of that on its own.
If a bit of public shame is what's needed to reveal how the UN has become a shallow husk of its former self, so be it; sitting back and pretending that the flaws within the institution don't exist for the sake of being cooperative is going to speed up its downfall much quicker than today's actions.
Moledet
04-21-2009, 04:11 AM
The walk out was a short-sighted and stupid move. It greatly damaged the prestige and credibility of the UN just for the sake of a publicity stunt. I see shades of Japan walking out from the League of Nations, which spelled the end for the League of Nations. This is the thin end of the wedge. Western leaders need to show some restraint. Using a walk out to make themselves look better for the media, does the reverse for the UN.
For better or worse we need the UN. I don't want to see World War III.
It was an excellent move, the Iranian president used the conference to try and gain political capital in Muslim and Arab countries by giving another one of his usual holocaust denial/Israel destruction/world conspiracy speeches but this time in Geneva instead of Tehran. Thanks to the walkout he got the exact opposite, he's harshly criticized all over the Arab world for uniting the west around Israel.
Ozzy[NO]
04-21-2009, 02:21 PM
Iran press hails Ahmadinejad speech
TEHRAN (AFP) — Several newspapers in Iran on Tuesday praised President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's anti-Israeli tirade at a UN conference that drew angry condemnation from the West.
"Cry for justice in the heart of Europe: Ahmadinejad angered Western racists," read the headline in the government newspaper Iran.
Leading hardline daily Kayhan wrote: "Welcoming Ahmadinejad and hating racist Israel" in Geneva.
Addressing a UN conference against racism in Geneva on Monday, Ahmadinejad criticised the creation of a "totally racist government in occupied Palestine" in 1948, calling it "the most cruel and racist regime."
His remarks prompted 23 European Union delegations to walk out of the conference room in protest.
Among the headlines in other conservative newspapers were "Applause for Iranian logic in Geneva" in Vatan Emrouz, and "Geneva's number one man: Iran president's speech drew the ire of Zionists" in Jam-e Jam.
"I admire Ahmadinejad's position against the Zionist regime," conservative Tehran MP Ali Motahari said in Iran newspaper.
"It was important to inform the world of Islamic republic's stance against the Zionist regime and the president managed that very well," he said of the Geneva conference.
The reformist press, which has long been critical of Ahmadinejad's fiery rhetoric and foreign policy, focused instead on the walkout and demonstrations, but without criticising the president.
"Ahmadinejad's controversial speech in Geneva," Etemad daily said.
Another leading reformist newspaper, Etemad Melli, kicked off its report from Geneva with: "Ahmadinejad's speech was not without controversy, he faced two kinds of protest."
Several Western countries including the United States had already boycotted the conference because of Ahmadinejad's participation and his anti-Israeli outburst was followed by swift condemnation from Western leaders.
Iran's foreign ministry spokesman slammed the Western walkout. "Some Western governments do not tolerate freedom of speech when it concerns Zionism," Hassan Ghashghavi told the Fars news agency.
UN chief Ban Ki-moon, meanwhile, said in effect that Ahmadinejad had betrayed his trust.
Since taking office in 2005, Ahmadinejad has repeatedly said the Jewish state, which is not recognised by Iran, is doomed to disappear and called the Holocaust a "myth."
But he did not repeat the comments in Geneva.
While winning the support of conservative for his anti-Israeli stand, Ahmadinejad has in the past been rebuked at home by moderates over questioning the Nazi Holocaust during World War II to promote the Palestinian cause.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jPye6ZI-YTS4m4gdETkKQARoLV5g
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