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zxc
04-22-2009, 08:51 AM
Tajik Kills Three Neo-Nazis, Placed on Interpol Watch List


Posted April 21st, 2009

Police in the Moscow suburb or Kolomna have persuaded Interpol to
place a Tajik man on an international wanted list after determining
that he killed three neo-Nazis, according to an April 17, 2009 report
by Newsru.com. According to a police spokesperson, Saidzhon Radzhabov
came to the aid of two Tajik men whom the neo-Nazis were beating at a
Kolomna train station during what the far-right calls "cleansing
operations." He took out a knife and killed one of the assailants,
20-year-old Maskim Danilin, on the spot; the two other extremists, age
18 and 20, died later in a hospital. The Kolomna police believe Mr.
Radzhabov is hiding in Tajikistan.




http://www.ucsj.org/news/tajik-kills-three-neo-nazis-placed-interpol-watch-list

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Very interesting case. I myself think that this man did a good thing defending people from Neo-Nazis, and those scum got what they deserved.

muck
04-22-2009, 08:53 AM
Exaggerated assistance in danger?
I smell another Joe Horn thread.

RoyB
04-22-2009, 08:53 AM
Give him a medal.

Snoshi
04-22-2009, 09:02 AM
Give him a medal.

I agree.. I would have done the same thing..

Connaught Ranger
04-22-2009, 09:50 AM
Give him a medal.

No! Give him 3 medals and a license to hunt down and eradicate these scum.woot

3rdMillhouse
04-22-2009, 09:59 AM
Something wrong with russia there.

muck
04-22-2009, 10:39 AM
Give him a medal.Lol...Well, they should stop the prosecution at least. It is beyond me why he was put on that fugitive list although it seems he "only" assisted a victim in distress.

His name is not on the "Most wanted" list of Interpol, by the way.

Flamming_Python
04-22-2009, 11:25 AM
Good job, that guy is a natural. Problem is that we can hardly exterminate all 50,000 of these morons; and there are plenty such fools and extremists among non-Russian minorities as well. Russia has a real problem with all these idiots.

Bohemoth
04-22-2009, 11:31 AM
No! Give him 3 medals and a license to hunt down and eradicate these scum.woot
... and name him The Punisher. :)
You're right, at least he did something. Better than the average people who look away and don't do anything.

Hollis
04-22-2009, 11:34 AM
Something wrong with russia there.


Skins heads are in many nations. Part of having a more free society, it allows asshats to breed. All it does say about Russia, it has the some of the same problems the rest of us has.

Nephilim
04-22-2009, 11:39 AM
Oh my what a twisted world..

think he did the right thing.
some asshats less to worry about.

zxc
04-22-2009, 01:41 PM
Good job, that guy is a natural. Problem is that we can hardly exterminate all 50,000 of these morons; and there are plenty such fools and extremists among non-Russian minorities as well. Russia has a real problem with all these idiots.

Yep, islamic extremism in Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan and racial extremism in Russia... it's all terrorism actually, just in different form. To bad government does not take a more serious acts towards these scums, as they do towards islamic extremism, altough slow progress is being made.

click
04-22-2009, 01:45 PM
This dude is a total badass

matthew.manhorn
04-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Kudos to him! Russia needs more people like him.

NUCKINFUTS
04-22-2009, 06:57 PM
I heard they are gonna strike and kill all colored people and people who aren't of their decent in 2012. I'll locked and loaded when they come to my neighborhood.

sup_tech
04-22-2009, 08:12 PM
Kudos to him! Russia needs more people like him.
You mean coming to Russia and killing Russians?

uTu
04-22-2009, 08:14 PM
No! Give him 3 medals and a license to hunt down and eradicate these scum.woot
& a flying robo sniper!

nah, good on him I reckon

TDuck
04-22-2009, 08:27 PM
The only thing this man is for sure guilty of is fleeing from the murder scene. I do applaud him for protecting an innocent victim. But he's an idiot for running away.

Kutuzov
04-22-2009, 08:36 PM
Well nothing good about 3 murdered teenagers it will surely spark reprisals and alot more racial killings so I don’t know why this guy deserves medals he just caused more immigrant deaths by doing that.

Kutuzov
04-22-2009, 08:40 PM
I heard they are gonna strike and kill all colored people and people who aren't of their decent in 2012. I'll locked and loaded when they come to my neighborhood.

Huh? Where you get that from?

kuttless
04-22-2009, 08:40 PM
He did kill three people but they were nazis so oh well. Good on him.

muck
04-22-2009, 08:45 PM
Huh? Where you get that from?The voices...

Kutuzov
04-22-2009, 08:52 PM
The voices...

Thats nice ... How long did you have this problem?:)

matthew.manhorn
04-22-2009, 09:08 PM
You mean coming to Russia and killing Russians?

Killing neo nazis

NUCKINFUTS
04-22-2009, 10:33 PM
Huh? Where you get that from?

Some guy over MSN Messenger told me he got it from their website and they had a whole theory of the master race and they are gonna start killing whoever is not white by beginning in Texas and killing off anyone who doesn't agree with them in 2012.

Mr Gently Benevolent
04-23-2009, 02:32 AM
Some guy over MSN Messenger told me he got it from their website and they had a whole theory of the master race and they are gonna start killing whoever is not white by beginning in Texas and killing off anyone who doesn't agree with them in 2012.There gonna have their work cut out then. Its about the only thing White Power and the Nazi's can agree on athough there was a small Nazi group with members in NJ and NY who felt colour was not an issue and welcomed them as members, I don't know if their still around though probably not publicy as I have never seen anything of them since the 80's. I have heard that there are Polish Nazi's which seems really weird any Polish folk know anything them.

Holycrusader
04-23-2009, 03:00 AM
There gonna have their work cut out then. Its about the only thing White Power and the Nazi's can agree on athough there was a small Nazi group with members in NJ and NY who felt colour was not an issue and welcomed them as members, I don't know if their still around though probably not publicy as I have never seen anything of them since the 80's. I have heard that there are Polish Nazi's which seems really weird any Polish folk know anything them.


You have nazis everywhere. Even here. One neonazi is a boss of Polish public tV

Few years later this guy
http://cia.bzzz.net/files/z5008481X2.jpg

becomes this guy

http://g.infor.pl/p/_wspolne/pliki/17000/17525.jpg

Incredible, isn't it?

Polygon
04-23-2009, 03:04 AM
What's also so crazy is how there can be any Neo-Nazi movements in Russia considering what happened between 1941-45.

Tyon
04-23-2009, 03:05 AM
Aww poor neo-nazis.... they would have had such a wonderful future... beating people up or killing people...


Give the man a medal and some kind of weapon.

Mr Gently Benevolent
04-23-2009, 03:08 AM
You have nazis everywhere. Even here. One neonazi is a boss of Polish public tV

Few years later this guy
http://cia.bzzz.net/files/z5008481X2.jpg

becomes this guy

http://g.infor.pl/p/_wspolne/pliki/17000/17525.jpg

Incredible, isn't it?Their was a big discussion about Nazis at work one day amongst all the Poles some of whom get highly agitated about Nazis and WW2 in general. Strangely enough most of the Polish folk I have worked with have been from Kostrzyn nad Odr? a stones throw from Germany.

Masakari
04-23-2009, 03:11 AM
They should make two movies about him.
The Tajik and Tajik Warzone:)

Player
04-23-2009, 05:12 AM
Well nothing good about 3 murdered teenagers it will surely spark reprisals and alot more racial killings so I don’t know why this guy deserves medals he just caused more immigrant deaths by doing that.

So following your logic people shouldn't defend themselves or others from Neo-Nazis because otherwise it will cause more racist violence?

You do realize how stupid it sounds?

By ignoring Nazi violence and abuses the Neo-Nazis will think they have a free ticket to do it and actually this is what promotes even more violence, not otherwise.

Piggy
04-23-2009, 05:25 AM
It is sensitive theme, however, role of state has to be performed. The hidden reason for that is to detract focus (reprisals) from members of attacked community.

RSone
04-23-2009, 06:02 AM
Neo-Nazi's in Russia, doesn't get much more ironic than that. Slavs don't really conform to the Nazi ideal of the Germanic 'Master Race'(Except maybe for the 'descendants' of the Rus......) I could imagine this being the same for many white supremacists in the US of A.

Holycrusader
04-23-2009, 07:04 AM
Neo-Nazi's in Russia, doesn't get much more ironic than that. Slavs don't really conform to the Nazi ideal of the Germanic 'Master Race'(Except maybe for the 'descendants' of the Rus......) I could imagine this being the same for many white supremacists in the US of A.


You can found Neo-nazis in Israel and this is much more ironic than that...

domokun
04-23-2009, 07:50 AM
Very interesting case. I myself think that this man did a good thing defending people from Neo-Nazis, and those scum got what they deserved.

I agree on that he did good thing. Problem is that he is still murderer or killer depending on what local laws call specific kind of issue. No one should be above laws.


Give him a medal.

And few years in jail, or what ever justice system and laws requires. Murder is still murder, even when done for good reason.


Skinheads are in many nations. Part of having a more free society, it allows asshats to breed. All it does say about Russia, it has the some of the same problems the rest of us has.

Fixed a typo. Neo-nazis aren't skinheads, more correct term is bonehead. You know quite ironically bit before rock against communism aka white power movement began most of skinheads were in mostly alcohol, fighting with lot lesser motives and listened ska, that can be seen as prototype of modern reggae... originating in Jamaica. hooliganism either in very general nature or for football (real thing, not grab elliptical object in hands thing some ill informed individuals call football).

sup_tech
04-23-2009, 10:24 AM
Killing neo nazis
Who told you they were "neo-nazis" and not just some lumpens - poor, uneducated and pissed off at the impotence of the local Russian government to provide basic protection from the economic downfall and high rise in crimes committed by foreign immigrants who come to Russia in hunreds of thousands because their own goverments can do nothing but yap about "how democratic they've become since the fall of the SU"? The "Daily news, opinion, and advocacy on Jews and [their] human rights in the former Soviet Union"? Have they seen this guys wearng swastika on their sleevs or they so-"unbias" source of information is just using a well-established by the Western media cliche of the Russian nationalists who like it the West or not have the same right to exist as any other nationalists in any other country?

Iranianpersianguy
04-24-2009, 04:14 AM
More power to our persian tajik brothers!

Iranianpersianguy
04-24-2009, 04:15 AM
All the neo-nazis who brutally attack helpless people deserve the same faith.

asch
04-24-2009, 04:20 AM
What's also so crazy is how there can be any Neo-Nazi movements in Russia considering what happened between 1941-45.
our homemade neo-nazis is a sad consequences of post-soviet mess. poor education, ****ty living makes youth to lean at radical bull****. sort of social darwinism, i guess, cos those assholes rarely move far in life.

zxc
04-24-2009, 08:09 AM
Who told you they were "neo-nazis" and not just some lumpens - poor, uneducated and pissed off at the impotence of the local Russian government to provide basic protection from the economic downfall and high rise in crimes committed by foreign immigrants who come to Russia in hunreds of thousands because their own goverments can do nothing but yap about "how democratic they've become since the fall of the SU"? The "Daily news, opinion, and advocacy on Jews and [their] human rights in the former Soviet Union"? Have they seen this guys wearng swastika on their sleevs or they so-"unbias" source of information is just using a well-established by the Western media cliche of the Russian nationalists who like it the West or not have the same right to exist as any other nationalists in any other country?

:cantbeli:

saturnin
04-24-2009, 09:11 AM
wherever neo-nazis are it is sad, in Russia many people must turn around in their graves. As for government fall - in first place their parents must rise those young people, give him first informations about what nazi realy is. Those young neo-nazi did go through elementary school, ect. .. itīs not much question of funding this institution itīs about what teachers, profesors sais to them - and I would say that they at least mentioned about nazis... - so donīt blame government

even if economic situation is bad and you are unemployed - itīs your decision what you will do with your free time

you want to stop neo-nazis - start write from beginning, when you rise kids, later might be too late

Sashko
04-24-2009, 09:56 AM
All the neo-nazis who brutally attack helpless people deserve the same faith.


What about "dangerous ethnicities" attacking Russians? Tadjik gasterbeiters are not exactly creme de la creme of society.

Flamming_Python
04-24-2009, 10:17 AM
What about "dangerous ethnicities" attacking Russians? Tadjik gasterbeiters are not exactly creme de la creme of society.


Yeah they can go to hell as well; if it were up to me I would put the whole load of these fascist assholes up against the wall.

In this case though; there was no indication that either the Tajiks that were attacked or the Tajik that killed the neo-nazis were criminals, broke the law or were violent ultra-nationalists.

Hutz
04-24-2009, 10:19 AM
I'd write RIP, but whatever........

sup_tech
04-24-2009, 10:35 AM
In this case though; there was no indication that either the Tajiks that were attacked or the Tajik that killed the neo-nazis were criminals, broke the law or were violent ultra-nationalists.

And caring and poking people with a knife when the Russian government refuses to provide any kind of meaningful ways for self-defense against street criminals (i.e. the current Gun Control law) for the Russian citizens is not a crime at all?

Sashko
04-24-2009, 01:16 PM
Yeah they can go to hell as well; if it were up to me I would put the whole load of these fascist assholes up against the wall.

In this case though; there was no indication that either the Tajiks that were attacked or the Tajik that killed the neo-nazis were criminals, broke the law or were violent ultra-nationalists.


There is a disproportionate use of force issue here as well - ie. don't bring a knife to a fistfight, or gun to a knife fight.

I have several issues with the incident:
1) what was a supposetly peaceful Tadjik good samaritan doing with a blade?
2) attacking 3 people with a knife is still a great challenge. Incapacitating 3 people, instantly killing one, with a blade points out to the fact that he attacked spontaneously and without warning. This is pretty big deal when it comes to criminal law.
3) This is triple homicide anyway you put it, neo-nazis or not.
4) Vigilantism, as appealing as it sounds, is a slippery slope.

saturnin
04-24-2009, 03:36 PM
couple weeks ago I saw: My iz budushchego - are there any little more serious russian movies on this theme - something like American History X?

Snoshi
04-24-2009, 03:59 PM
1) what was a supposetly peaceful Tadjik good samaritan doing with a blade?
"If you want peace, prepear for war".. Damn if i would be Tajik and walk around Moscow i probably also carry a weapon.
2)
attacking 3 people with a knife is still a great challenge. Incapacitating 3 people, instantly killing one, with a blade points out to the fact that he attacked spontaneously and without warning. This is pretty big deal when it comes to criminal law.
These 3 guys could have been kicking the victim while he came from behinde and stabbed them..


3) This is triple homicide anyway you put it, neo-nazis or not.
Sure...

PALADIN
04-24-2009, 04:02 PM
Interpol just doesn't like it when people steal their thunder.

zxc
04-24-2009, 04:20 PM
There is a disproportionate use of force issue here as well - ie. don't bring a knife to a fistfight, or gun to a knife fight.

I have several issues with the incident:
1) what was a supposetly peaceful Tadjik good samaritan doing with a blade?
2) attacking 3 people with a knife is still a great challenge. Incapacitating 3 people, instantly killing one, with a blade points out to the fact that he attacked spontaneously and without warning. This is pretty big deal when it comes to criminal law.
3) This is triple homicide anyway you put it, neo-nazis or not.
4) Vigilantism, as appealing as it sounds, is a slippery slope.

I agree that it is still a crime he commited, but Neo-nazis who kill children, beat up women and decapitate innocent ethnic minorities,(these things have happened, google and you'll see) should been shown no mercy. It will take a while before Russia will be without these radical Nazi groups, but until then, unproportionate response (At least this guy were defending someone, while neo-nazis only attack) such as these must be considered as an example on how to react against these scum.

Sashko
04-24-2009, 05:03 PM
"If you want peace, prepear for war".. Damn if i would be Tajik and walk around Moscow i probably also carry a weapon.So, you find it OK for guests, half of which are not even official guests, to carry weapons? Maybe that is why certain ethnicities get discriminated against?


2)

These 3 guys could have been kicking the victim while he came from behinde and stabbed them..Stabbing 3 people from behind is just as bad as kicking a victim on the ground.

Cstafford
04-24-2009, 05:06 PM
There is a disproportionate use of force issue here as well - ie. don't bring a knife to a fistfight, or gun to a knife fight.

I have several issues with the incident:
1) what was a supposetly peaceful Tadjik good samaritan doing with a blade?

Didnt know carrying a knife made you a bad person :roll:.

Ulytau
04-24-2009, 05:13 PM
first neo-nazis living in train stations or something? :| Well really hard to say anything to Tadjik dude cause i seen at some videos how they attackin to people and wounding them seriously.

Snoshi
04-24-2009, 05:48 PM
2)
Stabbing 3 people from behind is just as bad as kicking a victim on the ground.
There are no rules on the "street".. I know you probably think that there is some honour code that should be followed.. But the problem is that there is none.. And if i had to choose to stab someone in the back or to the front.. I would go for the back any day.

RomanS
04-24-2009, 05:53 PM
Good man

unfortunately this will bring even more violence now

sup_tech
04-24-2009, 06:09 PM
^ Good.

The current Russian government has shown time and again it's communist, internationalist and anti-Russian nature. Maybe more crackdown from the government finally will cause a rise and overthrow of the Putin's regime and liberation of the nationally oppressed ethnic Russians. I'll wait for that.

Hukatus
04-24-2009, 06:25 PM
Ross Kemp - neo-nazi gangs in Russia.
part 1 - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1186617548
part 2 - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cde_1186617706
part 3 - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b92_1186617866
part 4 - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f9e_1186618067
part 5 - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=793_1186618276
as we can see they got some supporters in duma and the police does not care at all.
"Migrant workers have to be used as cheap labor, a form of mild slavery, they should not be allowed to become russian citizens. They have to work, pay their taxes, and go home." - just watch part 5.
very interesting but hair-raising development.

zxc
04-24-2009, 06:44 PM
^ Good.

The current Russian government has shown time and again it's communist, internationalist and anti-Russian nature. Maybe more crackdown from the government finally will cause a rise and overthrow of the Putin's regime and liberation of the nationally oppressed ethnic Russians. I'll wait for that.

I am seriously laughing at your posts. Do you even know what you are talking about?

Especially this sentence:
Maybe more crackdown from the government finally will cause a rise and overthrow of the Putin's regime and liberation of the nationally oppressed ethnic Russians.

So the government is going to do a "crackdown" on itself?:cantbeli:
Keep your stormfront-theories to yourself.

little icebear
04-24-2009, 07:35 PM
It is actually perfectly normal that the police is looking for him. Wouldnīt be any different in any other state, so itīs not so much of an issue.
If you kill somebody, it will ultimately be the court, that decides, whether you acted in selfdefense or not and whether you really had to kill the attacker or not.
No big deal.

Maybe he does not have much faith in the russian court system to be impartial torwards a foreigner who killed three Russians... it is also possible, that he has something to hide... who knows.
All I know is that I donīt have much sympathy for neo-nazis, who enjoy beating up immigrants. They had it comming.

Flamming_Python
04-24-2009, 07:50 PM
^ Good.

The current Russian government has shown time and again it's communist, internationalist and anti-Russian nature. Maybe more crackdown from the government finally will cause a rise and overthrow of the Putin's regime and liberation of the nationally oppressed ethnic Russians. I'll wait for that.

Hmm yes, the 'worse the better' eh? :cantbeli:

sup_tech
04-24-2009, 10:36 PM
I am seriously laughing at your posts.
If I am not mistaken there is a Russian anecdote about a girl that always walks in a safety helmet and smiles... Keep on smiling.


Do you even know what you are talking about?Imagine yourself, I do. It has been an interest of mine since a long time ago.


So the government is going to do a "crackdown" on itself?
Keep your stormfront-theories to yourself.Are you slapping your face because you are completely incapable of understanding of what I am trying to bring across? Where the hack did you see me saying that the Russian government and the Russian people are the same things? As it stands right now, the Russian people are not even remotely in charge of their lives instead they have to submit to the rule of the their former communist masters which disguise themselves in one political form or another.



How about you let us Russians decide for ourselves what is good for us and what is not? Be gone.

Do you see me telling the Russians what to do? Really? Maybe, just maybe I make some suggestions about how I would like to see the Russians to become a truly free nation, developing a sense of self-respect and finally becoming a valuable member of the international community? So how about you STFU and let me express myself the way I feel about the topic?

God, I hate the "Russia STRONG!!!!1!!" crew...

Karaahmetoglu
04-25-2009, 12:24 AM
Do you see me telling the Russians what to do? Really? Maybe, just maybe I make some suggestions about how I would like to see the Russians to become a truly free nation, developing a sense of self-respect and finally becoming a valuable member of the international community? So how about you STFU and let me express myself the way I feel about the topic?

God, I hate the "Russia STRONG!!!!1!!" crew...


Wait your not Russian?


WHAT!!!


Tajik man was probably acting on self defense.

JohnnyWalker
09-06-2009, 12:44 PM
not the place for it sorry

JohnnyWalker
09-06-2009, 01:10 PM
God, I hate the "Russia STRONG!!!!1!!" crew...

And we hate you too

INAT
09-06-2009, 01:17 PM
Any Slavic nations youth that are neo-Nazis should be dealt with
by harsh legal means.It goes against everything their fathers and grandfathers fought against.Its a shame and I am using soft language.

Bathinus
09-06-2009, 02:01 PM
Give him a medal.

Exactly, wtf.

khukuri
09-07-2009, 09:46 AM
Its a shame that it has come to this. I wish the russian gov could act swifter against the neo nazis before it get too much out of control.

Is it lack of funds, bias, or just that they dont give an f?

Jurinko
09-07-2009, 10:33 AM
Not bad comrade, not bad.

Sometimes Gods mills work pretty swiftly.

Flamming_Python
09-07-2009, 07:26 PM
Is it lack of funds, bias, or just that they dont give an f?

None. They just prefer to close their eyes, and pretend that there aren't any problems, and that Russia is a multi-ethnic paradise of people's brotherhood.

Although, in recent years there have been an increasing amount of acknowledgement made of this problem, and greater efforts to stop it. But equally, in recent years the problem itself has also grown and become more serious.

alexflim
09-07-2009, 08:42 PM
Imagine - u see some kind of street fight 3 drunk teenagers beatin another teenager\man\illegal immigrant

and what u do?

1) Help victim with ur bare hands?- NO

2) Call 2 police?- NO

3) Pull ur knife and shout: buzz off scums! leave em alone or.... ?-NO

That brave man just pull knife and backstab em thick and fast. 2 the death...

And what? He is hero! why? cose they was neo-nazi!!!!!!! how we find it out?
simle - he was Tajjik and victim was Tajjik- so drunken tennagers- neo-nazi - that 4 sure. and some kid on TV said they was neo-nazi- so no doubt.

Sick world...

I wish that brave man and people like him find asylum in ur country and be ur neighbour

Ssandro
09-07-2009, 09:59 PM
It's just a shame he only managed to kill three Nazis.

It's too bizarre how they can possibly have Nazis in Russia, when according to Hitler, the Russians were supposed to be the "ultimate inferior race".

RIPTIDE
09-07-2009, 11:17 PM
Not this shyte again. Thread was necro'd since April.

AK-Lover
09-07-2009, 11:25 PM
Any Slavic nations youth that are neo-Nazis should be dealt with
by harsh legal means.It goes against everything their fathers and grandfathers fought against.Its a shame and I am using soft language.

Ahem, think twice about that, unfortunately some are VERY proud of what their fathers and grandfathers helped, not who they fought against.