How Palestinian fight against Israel tanks

[Xingbake]

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[IDFM203]

Xingbake,


Three quick comments.....

first in those cases where its just stones being thrown, just note the tanks usually do not fire back!

Secondly, so I see you post very narrow pics of only stone throws but miss out all those thousands of incidents where those tanks (and infantry and Israeli towns and cities etc…) are getting shot at :roll:

Thirdly I just love the irony of someone front China bringing these pics :cantbeli: for in their case, if a situation like this does happen, well lets just say it doesn’t happen that often for most Chinese know all too well that they don’t get treated like how the Pali’s do with Israel when confronted with tanks (which in the Pali’s case unlike the Chinese one, is get to live another day to throw more stones at those tanks :roll: )

Shalom :D

[calligula]

irst in those cases where its just stones being thrown, just note the tanks usually do not fire back!

I'm not so sure....

[Xingbake]

Well, I know this is not the real fighting. It's just a way to express their discontentment. I doubt if the Israel soldiers will really shoot at those Palestinians throwing stones. Maybe the people from both side have been used to this way.

[IDFM203]

irst in those cases where its just stones being thrown, just note the tanks usually do not fire back!

I'm not so sure....Well I am pretty sure in MOST cases, for if its only stones being thrown then no, live fire is NOT being shot at them, but in a lot of cases the tanks get shot at and well they return fire to the point of origin of where they are getting fired upon.

Of course some of you love to buy the lies that hey the plai’s only have stones blah blah , but that’s bull****, for all to often those tanks get fired upon by bullets and other types of heavier weaponry and its not just rocks.


Well, I know this is not the real fighting. It's just a way to express their discontentment. I doubt if the Israel soldiers will really shoot at those Palestinians throwing stones. Maybe the people from both side have been used to this way.Listen you see tons of pic’s all the time of them throwing stone and even tons of times of Pali’s climbing on tanks, now think for a second, if indeed we were acting like the Chinese or even like how the Arabs would act, where they would just all the time open live fire if and when they face these types of situations (well they don’t face it too often precisely for the reason of how they respond), well then I don’t think you would see all the time kids climbing on tanks or getting that close to throw stones, for they would be fearful of their lives, but as you can see they aren’t at all and that is because for the most part those tanks do NOT fire live fire at mere stone throwers.

Shalom :D

[Javehn]

Yea yea yea yea ....
I have seen it all , but not Chinese guy talking about it :) .

How about that ? Let's start :

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http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040420/capt.gaz11004201408.mideast_israel_palestinians_gaz110.jpg
I didn't know stones can go like this ... ;)

http://images1.fotki.com/v5/photos/6/6059/103216/417022-vi.jpg
That is explosives , I am shure Chinese Army has some ;) ...

http://images1.fotki.com/v5/photos/6/6059/103216/523023-vi.jpg

http://images1.fotki.com/v1/photos/6/6059/103216/813023-vi.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbatar.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbatar2.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbana.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/shamelstupid.jpg
Don't mind the "Rock or Stone" thingie , Shamel (from Hamas forum) is not the brightest guy on the planet ... ;)



Xingbake (is that your real name ?) , you know , I have really small idea about what is going on in China at general , so I preffer not to post about it . I bellieve that being half world away from us , and under communist rejime dictates that your knowledge about that situation dictates you to follow my above advice (and as one that came from former Communist state , I can't advocate in the name of it ). And as your smart Cong fu tze said : "The Master said, "To live in obscurity, and yet practice wonders....-this is what I do not do." .

:)

Ni hao , comrad ;) .

Oh , and a little by the way . One of the tanks in the pictures you brought (the second picture) were later exploded in action , and 3 of it's crue members killed . :(

[Bayonet]

HHAHAHA

Did you see that,XINGBAKE?

some foreign friend called us "comrad"...haha :D :D :D

Are you communist??

no matter u r or not....I am not a communist and I think none of chinese

members in this forum is a communist.

What do you think about that???

As my opinion..i have nothing to say about things happened in middle

east.. I dont know it very well. I think its very complex....If someone can

give me some background information...Many thanks

[Javehn]

No , I am not a communist , my friend . Thought I lived in Communist state for a while . Former Communist state .

Background ? The number of pages in that background will be the length of great wall , my friend . ;)

[Bayonet]

Russia you mean???

[Bayonet]

Russia you mean???

[KalleBalleSvartSk@lle]

Yea yea yea yea ....
I have seen it all , but not Chinese guy talking about it :) .

How about that ? Let's start :

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3450169.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE3F55984AE96C6AD9FD3C614DE2A4EC48

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040420/capt.gaz11004201408.mideast_israel_palestinians_gaz110.jpg
I didn't know stones can go like this ... ;)

http://images1.fotki.com/v5/photos/6/6059/103216/417022-vi.jpg
That is explosives , I am shure Chinese Army has some ;) ...

http://images1.fotki.com/v5/photos/6/6059/103216/523023-vi.jpg

http://images1.fotki.com/v1/photos/6/6059/103216/813023-vi.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbatar.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbatar2.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbana.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/shamelstupid.jpg
Don't mind the "Rock or Stone" thingie , Shamel (from Hamas forum) is not the brightest guy on the planet ... ;)



Xingbake (is that your real name ?) , you know , I have really small idea about what is going on in China at general , so I preffer not to post about it . I bellieve that being half world away from us , and under communist rejime dictates that your knowledge about that situation dictates you to follow my above advice (and as one that came from former Communist state , I can't advocate in the name of it ). And as your smart Cong fu tze said : "The Master said, "To live in obscurity, and yet practice wonders....-this is what I do not do." .

:)

Ni hao , comrad ;) .

Oh , and a little by the way . One of the tanks in the pictures you brought (the second picture) were later exploded in action , and 3 of it's crue members killed . :(
In some of these pics, it looks like they've just painted ordinary pvc tubes, to look like badass omfgjihadhaxx0rantiarmourtankmissiles, just to have for their posing sessions.
Or maybe I'm wrong.

[Javehn]

One of them is PVC based launcher-one before the last . It's called ElBatar ("Hero" , or "profit" , I am not shure ) , if I am not mistaken , the launch tube is one time use , but it worlks. It's local production .


Russia you mean???

One of USSR states .

[Xingbake]

I am the communist??? Are you kidding?? :bash: :bash:

[Javehn]

I am the communist??? Are you kidding?? :bash: :bash:

Hmm... ok , I am kidding ;) :)

[SpikeATGM]

Sometimes we should just think more than what the pic tells. Just think what is it that the stone throwers hope to achieve? Does it stop the tank from moving?

This are just for propaganda purpose. Israeli tank do not shoot at the stone throwers indiscriminately.

And it precisely the fact that the palestinian knows this that they do not hesitate to show off their "bravado" infront of the world media often using children.

And see choldren facing up with tanks in a conflict area does have a huge physiological impact on the average veiwers who do not bother to find out more. Unfortunately, their perception will naturally be shape by what they see.

[ronin2172]

Sometimes we should just think more than what the pic tells. Just think what is it that the stone throwers hope to achieve? Does it stop the tank from moving?

This are just for propaganda purpose. Israeli tank do not shoot at the stone throwers indiscriminately.

And it precisely the fact that the palestinian knows this that they do not hesitate to show off their "bravado" infront of the world media often using children.

And see choldren facing up with tanks in a conflict area does have a huge physiological impact on the average veiwers who do not bother to find out more. Unfortunately, their perception will naturally be shape by what they see.
now that was a good comment

[calligula]

Yea yea yea yea ....
I have seen it all , but not Chinese guy talking about it :) .

How about that ? Let's start :

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3450169.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE3F55984AE96C6AD9FD3C614DE2A4EC48

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040420/capt.gaz11004201408.mideast_israel_palestinians_gaz110.jpg
I didn't know stones can go like this ... ;)

http://images1.fotki.com/v5/photos/6/6059/103216/417022-vi.jpg
That is explosives , I am shure Chinese Army has some ;) ...

http://images1.fotki.com/v5/photos/6/6059/103216/523023-vi.jpg

http://images1.fotki.com/v1/photos/6/6059/103216/813023-vi.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbatar.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbatar2.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/elbana.jpg

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/javehn/shamelstupid.jpg
Don't mind the "Rock or Stone" thingie , Shamel (from Hamas forum) is not the brightest guy on the planet ... ;)



Xingbake (is that your real name ?) , you know , I have really small idea about what is going on in China at general , so I preffer not to post about it . I bellieve that being half world away from us , and under communist rejime dictates that your knowledge about that situation dictates you to follow my above advice (and as one that came from former Communist state , I can't advocate in the name of it ). And as your smart Cong fu tze said : "The Master said, "To live in obscurity, and yet practice wonders....-this is what I do not do." .

:)

Ni hao , comrad ;) .

Oh , and a little by the way . One of the tanks in the pictures you brought (the second picture) were later exploded in action , and 3 of it's crue members killed . :(


Ok, you show some pics with palestinian guys with RPG and other stuffs (sorry I'm not a specialist in this kind of weapons, only aircrafts), but how many palestinians got these weapons ? I'm not so sure they got a lot of RPG etc...For most of them, stones are the only way to "fight" against the israeli army....

[Javehn]

Kaligula , i don't know if you noticed , but most of those pics are from action . And trust me , they are in use .

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/balance/Pa.pdf

As Spike-ATGM allready noticed , there is more here , then meats the eye , or the picture . Why ? Because most of the photographers are local Palestinians . Hence the not so flattering photographies .

[IDFM203]

Nicely worded post, SpikeATGM



Ok, you show some pics with palestinian guys with RPG and other stuffs (sorry I'm not a specialist in this kind of weapons, only aircrafts), but how many palestinians got these weapons ? I'm not so sure they got a lot of RPG etc...For most of them, stones are the only way to "fight" against the israeli army....Listen we got to separate two conversations.

One is those tanks pics and stone throwers and the other is generally what the plai’s have to fight with.

On the first, again, with just stone throwers as I explained to you before, they are not shot at with live fire from the tanks!! (no need to go more in detail, just read my previous posts on that in this thread)

On the latter, no they have a lot more then what Javehn showed, they have thousands and thousands of AK's, M16’'s and other personal weapons, they also have homicide bombers and they have tons of rockets and mortars.

So please this whole notion of just stone throwers is false and in fact the tanks ONLY moved in 2002 only AFTER a continues suicide bombings as well as a continues firing at Israeli towns and cities by pali gunman as was rampant for two years before, so yes there is much more and all the time of just your version of Pali’s only having stones.

If indeed this whole conflict was being waged by them with just stones, I guarantee you wouldn’t see any Israeli tanks roaming inside there!! The fact is that stones is not the only thing being used, for it’s a fact that A LOT more is being used then just mere stones.

Shalom :D

[ronin2172]

jeez caligula RPGs r not hard to come by...hell if the somoalis can get their hands on them i'm shure the palestinians can as well

[Javehn]

A little correction here , tanks will fire warning shots if the stones would get dangerously close to nearby infantry or to the tank itself . Warning shots is the main word here .

[SeanAshi]

well lets just say it doesn’t happen that often for most Chinese know all too well that they don’t get treated like how the Pali’s do with Israel when confronted with tanks The Chinese would just blow them away with machine guns like in Tiananmen square.

[littlefrench]

The problem in this forum is that 85% of the members say the same thing : Israelien are good, Palestinians are bad. Do you really think that the situation is so simple ?

[UoUo]

The problem in this forum is that 85% of the members say the same thing : Israelien are good, Palestinians are bad. Do you really think that the situation is so simple ?

Yes...

Like the USA is good...and al qudiada and Sadaam are evil...it so simple.

[Sayeret]

The problem in this forum is that 85% of the members say the same thing : Israelien are good, Palestinians are bad. Do you really think that the situation is so simple ?

yes

[Moledet]

The problem in this forum is that 85% of the members say the same thing : Israelien are good, Palestinians are bad. Do you really think that the situation is so simple ?
Yes.

[SeanAshi]

The problem in this forum is that 85% of the members say the same thing : Israelien are good, Palestinians are bad. Do you really think that the situation is so simple ?Majority rules....

[b.scheller]

HAHAHAHA rofl

[Tengu]

Am i the only one who thinks those pictures are funny as hell?? It would be cool if someone would write OWNED on those pics p-) .

[SeanAshi]

http://images1.fotki.com/v1/photos/6/6059/103216/813023-vi.jpg
His lack of uniform makes himself look trashy, I'm guessing he doesn't have a washing machine his clothes are dirty

[Moledet]

http://images1.fotki.com/v1/photos/6/6059/103216/813023-vi.jpg
His lack of uniform makes himself look trashy, I'm guessing he doesn't have a washing machine his clothes are dirty
And it also makes him unprotected by international law because he is breaking it.

P.S. Yes it looks like he **** in his pants.

[b.scheller]

http://images1.fotki.com/v1/photos/6/6059/103216/813023-vi.jpg

hey yassir...does my ass look fat with this rpg?

:lol:

[seruriermarshal]

Mr. Xingbake send these pic , perhaps just because Israeli haven't sell some important weapon .

rofl

[SFontaine]

I thought the Chinese government blocked sites that were at all pro-US, pro-Freedom. I wonder what he's doing here.

[ZeroPositive]

tbh I like the Israeli's sorry at times I do bite at what some of you say but China isn't as evil as some of you make it out to be....

But I wouldn't defend the human rights record of the communist at all...

Anyway back in Subject... I wish the Palestinians and the IDF got into full blown war.... and the Israeli's sent the buggers all the way into all the Arab states and told them you can have them.... and kept them out...

I know I am going to get a lot of heat for what I just said but it would be good to see Israel live in Peace.

God Bless and Shalom.
Comrade :) *Wink Wink*

Someone post the Sharowned picture, I bloody love that pic :D

[Sayeret]

http://www.geoffdavis.com/pics/Flamage/sharowned.jpg

[ZeroPositive]

*Bows down in Respect*

I seriously respect you Israeli's and hope you never take anything I say too seriously, I wouldn't want you guys getting angry or upset with anything I have posted before... Cheers Dudes.

[J-10]

I thought the Chinese government blocked sites that were at all pro-US, pro-Freedom. I wonder what he's doing here.

I wonder most news about China are bad (by man-chosen) on west media, good job. Maybe American prefer to hear any bad news from China, hahah :lol:

[chengwudi]

Mr. Xingbake send these pic , perhaps just because Israeli haven't sell some important weapon .

We have important weapons already.you can see it on the forum


I thought the Chinese government blocked sites that were at all pro-US, pro-Freedom. I wonder what he's doing here.

I am a chinese spy ,the purpose i came to here is spying the information of the evil capitalism American .~~~ rofl


ps:I support Israel, but I take pity on those children very much .[/quote]

[RomanS]

Why the hell would anyone wanna throw anything at a moving tank?

You deserve to get shot at

this topic clearly was created by someone who wants to start **** with our Israeli friends.

[xjym2002]

Mr. Xingbake send these pic , perhaps just because Israeli haven't sell some important weapon .

rofl

Maybe that is the problem of him.
As far as I know, Isreal is one of the friendliest to China.
But it's weird the state medias of China keep on talking **** about Isreal.
I just don't know why and don't know why somebody believe it.

[SeanAshi]

I just don't know why and don't know why somebody believe it.Its about gaining international sympathy and attention for their cause, when you see a young boy throwing rocks at a tank....you wonder about it.

[seruriermarshal]

Mr. Xingbake send these pic , perhaps just because Israeli haven't sell some important weapon .

We have important weapons already.you can see it on the forum

Like Phalcon ?

:roll:

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

This post was designed to start a flame war, period. Instead of criticising other countries, albeit indirectly, why don't you start with your own. I've heard communist countries are into self-criticism in a big way.
Why don't you start by, say, posting a pic of that brave little guy who stood in front of the column of T-54/55s(or is it type 56) outside Tianimen(?) square in 1989.

Wasn't he executed for that?

For standing in front of a tank with a shopping bag in one hand and his coat in the other?.

[pfclee]

I don't know about Israel is being good. :roll:

I heard the story from both sides and I did the research as much as possible.

But I still think Palestine people have a right to fire at Israeli.

[Tengu]

I don't know about Israel is being good. :roll:

I heard the story from both sides and I did the research as much as possible.

But I still think Palestine people have a right to fire at Israeli.Incomming ****storm in 3, 2, 1 ....

[iflu]

this thread can also be understood as:

(in fact it is a joke....in poster's mind)

title: How Palestinian fight against Israel tanks

(what do u think if u only read this title...rpgs? bombs?tows?what ever...)

then comes mr. rocks...

(ha ha ha...the poster laughs, but unfortunately others go for debate...)

dont be over sensitive...sometimes humor helps.

[big80a2]

I don't know about Israel is being good. :roll:

I heard the story from both sides and I did the research as much as possible.

But I still think Palestine people have a right to fire at Israeli.


so spend some 500 dollar and buy a ticket so you can see it first hand....
take a easy backpacker because you will be checked at every door you enter...that's live in Israel.

[Ghostwolf]

Mr. Xingbake send these pic , perhaps just because Israeli haven't sell some important weapon .

We have important weapons already.you can see it on the forum

Like Phalcon ?

:roll:

Phalcon AWACS?? It's Sold to India already, they are not getting them for sure. rofl
That is why they are getting the A-50 AWACS.

[chengwudi]

Phalcon AWACS?? It's Sold to India already, they are not getting them for sure. rofl
That is why they are getting the A-50 AWACS.

Those may not be pure A-50 ,maybe include other technology :hug: [/quote]

[seruriermarshal]

Mr. Xingbake send these pic , perhaps just because Israeli haven't sell some important weapon .

We have important weapons already.you can see it on the forum

Like Phalcon ?

:roll:

Phalcon AWACS?? It's Sold to India already, they are not getting them for sure. rofl
That is why they are getting the A-50 AWACS.

So that's why they have A-50 . :hug:

rofl

[chengwudi]

I said " maybe include other technology ". ;) ;)

[Xingbake]

this thread can also be understood as:

(in fact it is a joke....in poster's mind)

title: How Palestinian fight against Israel tanks

(what do u think if u only read this title...rpgs? bombs?tows?what ever...)

then comes mr. rocks...

(ha ha ha...the poster laughs, but unfortunately others go for debate...)

dont be over sensitive...sometimes humor helps.

Hahaha~~~~you got me : )

I am soooooooooo surprised to see so many narrow minded people on this forum. No matter what I post, they will interpret it in nagative way.

Their logistic is: I am from China. China is governed by CP. CP is evil. So every one from China is evil too. Therefore what ever we post is evil. :bash: :bash:

For those guys, I really want you to pay a visit to China and see what exactly happening here before you post all those f*** comment.

[Xingbake]

this thread can also be understood as:

(in fact it is a joke....in poster's mind)

title: How Palestinian fight against Israel tanks

(what do u think if u only read this title...rpgs? bombs?tows?what ever...)

then comes mr. rocks...

(ha ha ha...the poster laughs, but unfortunately others go for debate...)

dont be over sensitive...sometimes humor helps.

Hahaha~~~~you got me : )

I am soooooooooo surprised to see so many narrow minded people on this forum. No matter what I post, they will interpret it in nagative way.

Their logistic is: I am from China. China is governed by CP. CP is evil. So every one from China is evil too. Therefore what ever we post is evil. :bash: :bash:

For those guys, I really want you to pay a visit to China and see what exactly happening here before you post all those f*** comment.

[Javehn]

Well, infact , we got 50 bussiness now visited China , and they got back very impressed . They expected to find evil empire and evil people , but found something else ... :)

[UoUo]

BTW i had very very very nice chinese worker here in my house.

[ZeroPositive]

Well, infact , we got 50 bussiness now visited China , and they got back very impressed . They expected to find evil empire and evil people , but found something else ... :)

They probably found a lot of hookers, the cheap booze and cheap but GREAT FOOD!!!
err did I mention all the women :)

[Bayonet]

BTW i had very very very nice chinese worker here in my house.

Hello....please do not send him to somewhere dangerous....

I have heard that some chinese workers were killed in terrorist attack in Israel...

God bless you and my compatriots in Israel... :D :D ....

[Bayonet]

Well, infact , we got 50 bussiness now visited China , and they got back very impressed . They expected to find evil empire and evil people , but found something else ... :)

Please introduce their trips to the people in this forum......
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Ineedfoodandgirls]

with the help of US, they will just fight for another 100 years,..
god bless u all

[littlefrench]

Ok guys, Israelians are good, Palestinians are bad. An other question : Do you really think there will be the peace in this country with this stupid logic ?? I hope that no.

[Moledet]

Ok guys, Israelians are good, Palestinians are bad. An other question : Do you really think there will be the peace in this country with this stupid logic ?? I hope that no.
Yes, when they will move to Jordan.

[iflu]

Ok guys, Israelians are good, Palestinians are bad. An other question : Do you really think there will be the peace in this country with this stupid logic ?? I hope that no.
Yes, when they will move to Jordan.

but both of us know that the soution is not so simple, right? ;)

[Moledet]

Ok guys, Israelians are good, Palestinians are bad. An other question : Do you really think there will be the peace in this country with this stupid logic ?? I hope that no.
Yes, when they will move to Jordan.

but both of us know that the soution is not so simple, right? ;)
No, it's very simple.
1. Dissolution of the Palestinian Authority.
2. Eradication of terror infrastructure.
3. Recognition and Development of Jordan as the Palestinian State.
4. Israeli sovereignty over Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
5. Rehabilitation of refugees and completion of population exchange.
6. Peace and normalization.

[UoUo]

Ok guys, Israelians are good, Palestinians are bad. An other question : Do you really think there will be the peace in this country with this stupid logic ?? I hope that no.

Wait..we don't live in the same country with the pal'....what are you
Taliking about?

And peace will come when they realize that they are wrong.

[iflu]

Ok guys, Israelians are good, Palestinians are bad. An other question : Do you really think there will be the peace in this country with this stupid logic ?? I hope that no.
Yes, when they will move to Jordan.

but both of us know that the soution is not so simple, right? ;)
No, it's very simple.
1. Dissolution of the Palestinian Authority.
2. Eradication of terror infrastructure.
3. Recognition and Development of Jordan as the Palestinian State.
4. Israeli sovereignty over Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
5. Rehabilitation of refugees and completion of population exchange.
6. Peace and normalization.

i mean not only jews lived and is living in that place. like most countries in the world, many nationalities co-existent in the same territory. so solution must be constructive.

[UoUo]

BTW..my parents didn't come from Eruopre to live in "co-existent with other nationalities in the same territory" they came to live in a jewish country.

[Javehn]

Well , Iflu , you certainly don't talk about 2 nation that want to kill each other (or one nation that want to kill the other nation :roll: ) .

If you know History , you surtainly know what happened after WW1 when Austro Hungry empire felt , and Bosnia was forcefully united with several not so combining nations all together (Serbs , Croats , Slovenians) .

And you know what happened there in the 90's ... Those situations are time bombs .

I guess even Dalhi Lama can't solve this situation .

[iflu]

yeh, if u guys have read my previous posts in some thread, i have said i totally undersatnd why isreal (i mean the country) is so important for jews coz i read some thousands years history of jews. my point is the problem now we have is complicated. coz not only (i mean historically) jews lived there before and apparently nobody is willing to move out. so i think the solution is not easy.

[W(M)D]

I guess even Dalhi Lama can't solve this situation .

Ahalan wa sa halan!!

Nobody can resolve this situation, alas, not even Arik because he was the real last hope. Those on the 'smoll' have nothing to offer but outright retreat (and therefore ultimate defeat).

[Maciek]

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why ther is smoke frome the RPG if the missile is not fired ???
dud?

[Sayeret]

Ok guys, Israelians are good, Palestinians are bad. An other question : Do you really think there will be the peace in this country with this stupid logic ?? I hope that no.

The Palestinians don't live in Israel, what are you talking about?

[Javehn]

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why ther is smoke frome the RPG if the missile is not fired ???
dud?

Hahaha dude , you should really put your glasses on :lol: