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xav
05-07-2009, 06:27 PM
NASA Unveils $18.7 Billion Budget For 2010
The Obama Administration is requesting $18.686 billion "to advance Earth science, complete the International Space Station, explore the solar system and conduct aeronautics research," according to a summary leased by NASA today.

The budget request represents an increase of $903.6 million, about 5 percent, above the amount provided NASA in the FY 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Act, the summary said.

According to the summary:

"The FY 2010 budget does a number of things: it supports the Administration's commitment to deploy a global climate change research and monitoring system; it funds a strong program of space exploration involving humans and robots with the goal of returning Americans to the moon and exploring other destinations; and it supports the safe flight of the Space Shuttle to complete assembly of the International Space Station by the Space Shuttle's planned retirement.

With the FY 2010 budget request, we will advance our global climate change research. NASA's investment in Earth science research satellites, airborne sensors, computer models and analysis already has revolutionized scientific knowledge and predictions of climate change and its effects. Using the National Research Council's recommended priorities for space-based Earth science research, we will develop new sensors to support the Administration's goal of deploying a global climate research and monitoring system.
http://www.floridatoday.com/content/blogs/space/2009/05/nasa-unveils-187-billion-budget-for.shtml


Obama Orders Up Sweeping Review Of NASA
The Obama Administration ordered up a sweeping review of NASA today that could lead to significant changes to the agency's plans to send American astronauts to the moon by 2020.

Among the issues up for review: the architecture former NASA Administrator Michael Griffin put in place in 2005, which led to the ongoing development of Ares I rockets and Orion spacecraft while laying out plans for the Ares V heavy-lift rocket and the Altair lunar lander.

"The President's goal is to ensure that these programs remain on a strong and stable footing well into the 21st Century, and this review will be crucial to meeting that goal." said John P. Holdren, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology and Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.
http://www.floridatoday.com/content/blogs/space/2009/05/obama-orders-up-sweeping-review-of-nasa.shtml

JJC
05-07-2009, 08:23 PM
Obama announced cuts to federal bureaucracy in over 100 programs that will save $17 billion. That 17 billion saved can be dumped into NASA. I thinks it's not a bad idea to use NASA for global warming research instead of just some random planet explorations.

BlackJack22
05-07-2009, 11:11 PM
They better find a cure for gout or somthing.

eskachig
05-07-2009, 11:19 PM
I think space exploration and other forms of curiosity based research are a great way to invest in your own country. The benefits are powerful and long-running, even if the actual research doesn't yield immediate monetary benefits.

Shrapp
05-08-2009, 02:58 AM
NASA = Welfare for the scientific elite

Marshall_Nord
05-08-2009, 02:45 PM
NASA = Welfare for the scientific elite

Better than welfare for any other group!

void
05-08-2009, 09:32 PM
Coz who needs science anyway, right?

muttbutt
05-09-2009, 11:59 AM
NASA = Welfare for the scientific eliteDon't ever use a GPS system again.....p-)


or get a weather report.p-)

GtodeO
05-09-2009, 02:28 PM
question how do we benefit from it?
sometimes scientist are too smart for their own good!

Zarak
05-09-2009, 05:05 PM
question how do we benefit from it?
sometimes scientist are too smart for their own good!

http://www.sti.nasa.gov/spinoff/spinsearch?BOOL=AND&ALLFIELDS=&CENTER=&BOOLM=AND&MANUFACT=&STATE=&CATEGORY=&ISSUE=&Spinsort=ISSUED

Aside from, you know, expanding our knowledge of the Universe. But that's a complete waste, right?

void
05-09-2009, 08:56 PM
question how do we benefit from it?
sometimes scientist are too smart for their own good!

What does that even mean? The job of a scientist is to work to further the sum of human knowledge. Sometimes the directions taken dont seem to have obvious immediate practical applications, but by definition you cannot know if it will in the future. GPS as we know it today would be impossible without the Theory of Relativity developed in 1906 or thereabouts. Thats almost a century gap between the science and the application, but the application is impossible without the science.

Whole branches of pure mathematics were considered completely useless, until many decades later they became crucial for things like error correction (used in every type of digital media) and encryption.

WKD
05-09-2009, 11:10 PM
NASA = Welfare for the scientific elite

Yeah, what has science ever done for you?


question how do we benefit from it?
sometimes scientist are too smart for their own good!

The concept behind the microwave oven was first discovered by some useless scientist prick building radar for Raytheon and no doubt using food stamps to buy cadilacs. Velcro came out of the space race but who gives a **** about that. That global communications thing we got now? Would you believe that those sattelites are put up there with rockets. Guess what program brought huge advantages to rocket technology? That's right, the Southern Baptist Convention's celibacy program. Basically a whole lotta good christian engineers started making rockets to symbolise the erections they were no longer allowed to have, and all of the money for it came from tithes collected every Sunday. God bless Jerry Falwell, wherever he may be.

Advancing physics? Who cares, not like that get's used for anything. Your computer runs on magic and wishfull thinking, much like my mortgage. I'm sure modern aircraft would be perfectly fine without having over $100 billion pumped into aerospace over the last 50 years. NASA is just a completely worthless money sink. I'm sure some guy pottering around in his garage could easily have come up with something far better. Like a new kind of toothbrush or something. **** yeah, with like a twisty head and everything.

BlackJack22
05-10-2009, 10:56 AM
Yeah, what has science ever done for you?



The concept behind the microwave oven was first discovered by some useless scientist prick building radar for Raytheon and no doubt using food stamps to buy cadilacs. Velcro came out of the space race but who gives a **** about that. That global communications thing we got now? Would you believe that those sattelites are put up there with rockets. Guess what program brought huge advantages to rocket technology? That's right, the Southern Baptist Convention's celibacy program. Basically a whole lotta good christian engineers started making rockets to symbolise the erections they were no longer allowed to have, and all of the money for it came from tithes collected every Sunday. God bless Jerry Falwell, wherever he may be.

Advancing physics? Who cares, not like that get's used for anything. Your computer runs on magic and wishfull thinking, much like my mortgage. I'm sure modern aircraft would be perfectly fine without having over $100 billion pumped into aerospace over the last 50 years. NASA is just a completely worthless money sink. I'm sure some guy pottering around in his garage could easily have come up with something far better. Like a new kind of toothbrush or something. **** yeah, with like a twisty head and everything.
There was life before and there will be life after.

acosta
05-10-2009, 12:16 PM
i would like it.

but before they waste, there should be a space science overhaul comittee in place. or we need a new policy. i really don't see clearly how NASA is effiently working.

WKD
05-10-2009, 05:13 PM
There was life before and there will be life after.

Feel free to hand in your cellphone at the door.

towelie
05-10-2009, 06:28 PM
i would like it.

but before they waste, there should be a space science overhaul comittee in place. or we need a new policy. i really don't see clearly how NASA is effiently working.
I agree, NASA needs a large overhaul especially in terms of its contracting for launch equipment. Inflation adjusted, it was cheaper to send stuff to space back in the 60/70s then it is now-a-days and the launch capabilities were also much better back then.

Had the moon landings had more of a science/industrial motive behind them than a political motive, wed probably be allot further in terms of space technology and objectives.

muttbutt
05-11-2009, 09:04 AM
There was life before and there will be life after.What does that even mean in this context, or is it just something you thought sounded profound?

Humans are explorers it's one of the few good things we like to do, wheather its space/science/technology ect we use agencies like NASA because frankly we can't all be in the "scientific elite" (a bull**** term BTW) who I'm glad are "elite"


we use religion and philosophy ect to explore ourselves.....God that soundes cheesy the way I put it.:oops:

BlackJack22
05-11-2009, 11:35 AM
What does that even mean in this context, or is it just something you thought sounded profound?

Humans are explorers it's one of the few good things we like to do, wheather its space/science/technology ect we use agencies like NASA because frankly we can't all be in the "scientific elite" (a bull**** term BTW) who I'm glad are "elite"


we use religion and philosophy ect to explore ourselves.....God that soundes cheesy the way I put it.:oops:
Its like what I tell my daughter when she talks about being w/o her cell phone , video games, etc. There was life before and there will be life after technology.People act like we cant function w/o it.

WKD
05-11-2009, 05:14 PM
Nevermind.

tea drinker
05-12-2009, 12:34 PM
Aside from, you know, expanding our knowledge of the Universe. But that's a complete waste, right?

But the Universe itself is expanding, so like won't science have to like, keep expanding and stuff too?

Man I'd love to get over for a shuttle launch..... just got the mailshot from NASA on that very subject.....

But on topic, scientific advancements and research are a great way to boost an economy. If you want America to be at the forefront of technology, you could do worse than support NASA.

Rictor
05-13-2009, 12:08 AM
question how do we benefit from it?
sometimes scientist are too smart for their own good!

They're secretly building a fleet of advanced spaceships in orbit to defend against the inevitable alien attack. When you've got a Klingon bat'leth at your throat, you'll be glad that NASA is around to clean up the mess.