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I can't think of a name
05-07-2009, 11:41 PM
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/05/cia_says_pelosi_was_briefed_on.html


CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

By Paul Kane
Intelligence officials released documents this evening saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was briefed in September 2002 about the use of harsh interrogation tactics against al-Qaeda prisoners, seemingly contradicting her repeated statements over the past 18 months that she was never told that these techniques were actually being used.

In a 10-page memo outlining an almost seven-year history of classified briefings, intelligence officials said that Pelosi and then-Rep. Porter Goss (R-Fla.) were the first two members of Congress ever briefed on the interrogation tactics. Then the ranking member and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, respectively, Pelosi and Goss were briefed Sept. 4, 2002, one week before the first anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

The memo, issued by the Director of National Intelligence and the Central Intelligence Agency to Capitol Hill, notes the Pelosi-Goss briefing covered "EITs including the use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah." EIT is an acronym for enhanced interrogation technique. Zubaydah was one of the earliest valuable al-Qaeda members captured and the first to have the controversial tactic known as water boarding used against him.

The issue of what Pelosi knew and when she knew it has become a matter of heated debate on Capitol Hill. Republicans have accused her of knowing for many years precisely the techniques CIA agents were using in interrogations, and only protesting the tactics when they became public and liberal antiwar activists protested.

In a carefully worded statement, Pelosi's office said today that she had never been briefed about the use of waterboarding, only that it had been approved by Bush administration lawyers as a legal technique to use in interrogations.

"As this document shows, the Speaker was briefed only once, in September 2002. The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used," said Brendan Daly, Pelosi's spokesman.
Pelosi's statement did not address whether she was informed that other harsh techniques were already in use during the Zubaydah interrogations.

In December 2007 the Washington Post reported that leaders of the House and Senate intelligence committees had been briefed in the fall of 2002 about waterboarding -- which simulates drowning -- and other techniques, and that no congressional leaders protested its use. At the time Pelosi said she was not told that waterboarding was being used, a position she stood by repeatedly last month when the Bush-era Justice Department legal documents justifying the interrogation tactics were released by Attorney General Eric Holder.

The new memo shows that intelligence officials were willing to share the information about waterboarding with only a sharply closed group of people. Three years after the initial Pelosi-Goss briefing, Bush officials still limited interrogation technique briefings to just the chairman and ranking member of the House and Senate intelligence committees, the so-called Gang of Four in the intelligence world.


In October 2005, CIA officials began briefing other congressional leaders with oversight of the intelligence community, including top appropriators who provided the agency its annual funding. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam and an opponent of torture techniques, was also read into the program at that time even though he did not hold a special committee position overseeing the intelligence community.

A bipartisan collection of lawmakers have criticized the practice of limiting information to just the "Gang of Four", who were expressly forbidden from talking about the information from other colleagues, including fellow members of the intelligence committees. Pelosi and others are considering reforms that would assure a more open process for all committee members.
Liar. She also knew about it and let the media push the "torture" meme for years. She was not the only Democrat who was briefed on it. Jane Harmon (who was wiretapped for talking to spies, also was in on it)

Of course some people knew this fact for year, but were dismissed as crazy right wingers.

I do believe there is a reason this was leaked now. Obama can benefit from weakened congressional leadership. With Pelosi out of the way he can drive his adgenda not hers.

philbob
05-07-2009, 11:52 PM
Ill take his over hers

FullMetalJackass
05-08-2009, 12:32 AM
Unfortunately I doubt congress will demand a thorough investigation of who knew what and when they knew it since, well, the democrats are driving it right now.

LineDoggie
05-08-2009, 12:38 AM
She's either the stupidist Liar ever known or in advanced Alzheimers

khaz
05-08-2009, 01:39 AM
she is a democrat they are so used to lieing and no one calling them on it they do it without thinking

Gerry301
05-08-2009, 09:44 PM
Obvious lie to every human being on the planet earth, except those in power.

I can't think of a name
05-08-2009, 10:59 PM
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-under-renewed-fire-over-interrogations-2009-05-08.html

The left wanted FULL disclosure. Be careful what you wish for hypocrites. She should come clean or perpetuate her lie under oath.

The 2002 DNI document says that Zubayda was Waterboarded 80+ times when they told Pelosi. Guess she did not think it was torture at the time.

Dan2004
05-08-2009, 11:25 PM
I have a question, I'm not in any way trying to stir things up, or any stupid sh*t like that.

But, didn't we prosecute Japanese officers and Nazis for waterboarding during the war crimes trials?

Walter Sobchak
05-08-2009, 11:34 PM
PeloSSi is third in line to be Chancellor... errrrr, I mean President. A lie of this magnitude demonstrates she's not fit to serve. Resign. We need hearings... a Special Prosecutor. An inquisitor.

Seriously, I think Congresswitch PeloSSi is suffering from lack of oxygen to her brain caused by excessive skin stretching around the head and neck or from acute Botox poisoning.


I have a question, I'm not in any way trying to stir things up, or any stupid sh*t like that.

But, didn't we prosecute Japanese officers and Nazis for waterboarding during the war crimes trials?

No. We prosecuted them for crimes against humanity. The Nazis and Japanese didn't have doctors standing by during interrogations who could stop the whole thing. Plus, their methods were a little more destructive and final than inducing panic as if drowning. Not even in the same ballpark. Not even the same sport.

Dan2004
05-08-2009, 11:42 PM
No. We prosecuted them for crimes against humanity. The Nazis and Japanese didn't have doctors standing by during interrogations who could stop the whole thing. Plus, their methods were a little more destructive and final than inducing panic as if drowning. Not even in the same ballpark. Not even the same sport.

Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I remember hearing that from my grandfather. Perhaps I misunderstood him.

PeterRJG
05-08-2009, 11:43 PM
Does she use dijon mustard on her burgers? Hang her for a witch.

acosta
05-09-2009, 03:58 AM
congress version: lie to me

http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2009/05/07/1241754088_8096/539w.jpg

acosta
05-09-2009, 04:02 AM
this one...

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/Image/nancy-pelosi.jpg

acosta
05-09-2009, 04:05 AM
i so swear...
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l165/magblog/NancyPelosi.png

Dominique
05-09-2009, 04:36 AM
OMG, a politician lied when it was politically expedient, I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked. Of course she lied, it's what politicians do best. She could care less about what actually happened, or what she was briefed on, as long as it doesn't make her look bad, or hurt her chances for re-election. next she'll swear up and down, that this whole thing is some big misunderstanding, and she really didn't know what they meant when she was briefed. She'll pay that out hoping that things will either die down, or everyone's attention will shift elsewhere.

California Joe
05-09-2009, 09:48 AM
Yeah, this is kind of a "duh" moment. Of course she knew about it.

2Sheds_Jackson
05-09-2009, 12:50 PM
One more nail in the "King George" myth. At some point, there's going to be this communal realization, where all these dimwitted Democrat voters in their Che Guevara T-shirts all suddenly figure out they've been conned via the war(s) and there will be this big nation-wide "ohhhhh sh*t" drifting on the wind. Of course by then, there will be a national police force in place, using black helicopters to transport wrong-thinking folks into the "assistance camps" p-)

Gleipnir
05-09-2009, 12:56 PM
One more nail in the "King George" myth. At some point, there's going to be this communal realization, where all these dimwitted Democrat voters in their Che Guevara T-shirts all suddenly figure out they've been conned via the war(s) and there will be this big nation-wide "ohhhhh sh*t" drifting on the wind. Of course by then, there will be a national police force in place, using black helicopters to transport wrong-thinking folks into the "assistance camps" p-)

Gosh, I hope so! I think I would make a great censor in the new regime and would apply for that job immediately!!! p-)

This is just politicking. Disgusting, to be sure, but politicking none the less

Walter Sobchak
05-09-2009, 01:22 PM
OMG, a politician lied when it was politically expedient, I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked. Of course she lied, it's what politicians do best. She could care less about what actually happened, or what she was briefed on, as long as it doesn't make her look bad, or hurt her chances for re-election. next she'll swear up and down, that this whole thing is some big misunderstanding, and she really didn't know what they meant when she was briefed. She'll pay that out hoping that things will either die down, or everyone's attention will shift elsewhere.

"I was against waterboarding before I was for it..."

Crux
05-09-2009, 11:42 PM
I waterboard myself, everyday!

I can't think of a name
05-10-2009, 11:29 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/08/AR2009050803967_pf.html

More info on her lying and how the left is giving her the benefit of the doubt they would not give to an R.