Democrats to dominate for 40 years

[marktigger]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5318983/Clinton-adviser-says-Democrats-will-dominate-for-40-years.html

According to a Democrate adviser the democratic party will dominate US politics for the next 40 years. A bit of an arrogant claim maybe but for the Republicans to win in 8 years time will take them to steal some of the democrats clothes and their agenda will still dominate.

[Ritual]

I must be a rather negative person, I think people are generally unhappy and because of this will always replace the party in power by projecting this on which ever party is ruling.

Vote out the incumbent?

[Maktab]

This isn't the 1960s, political cycles tend to change far more rapidly these days than they used to, in part thanks to technological enablers like the internet and the 24hr news cycle.

The fact that the Republicans were confidently predicting a new conservative era only five years ago yet are now banished to the political wilderness should be caution enough for Democrats to avoid making the same bold predictions about the future. The roles may be reversed now, but the circumstances aren't that different.

Americans are deeply dissatisfied with the entire political class, Republican and Democrat. Confidence levels in Congress are at all-time lows and elections these days are as much about chucking the incumbents out as they are about voting for new policies and entitlements. If the Democrats overreach (as it appears they are busy doing), they'll find public sentiment turning against them in the exact same way it turned against the Republicans. Who by then may very well have salvaged enough of a coherent platform to get re-elected.

But any talk of a permanent majority for either party is premature and is precisely the sort of hubris that leads to painful downfalls.

[marktigger]

This isn't the 1960s, political cycles tend to change far more rapidly these days than they used to, in part thanks to technological enablers like the internet and the 24hr news cycle.

The fact that the Republicans were confidently predicting a new conservative era only five years ago yet are now banished to the political wilderness should be caution enough for Democrats to avoid making the same bold predictions about the future. The roles may be reversed now, but the circumstances aren't that different.

Americans are deeply dissatisfied with the entire political class, Republican and Democrat. Confidence levels in Congress are at all-time lows and elections these days are as much about chucking the incumbents out as they are about voting for new policies and entitlements. If the Democrats overreach (as it appears they are busy doing), they'll find public sentiment turning against them in the exact same way it turned against the Republicans. Who by then may very well have salvaged enough of a coherent platform to get re-elected.

But any talk of a permanent majority for either party is premature and is precisely the sort of hubris that leads to painful downfalls.

Totally agree i found his asertion very arrogant in the extreme. But I would say the low opinion of politicians is a fairly global thing at the minite.

[Jobu]

Predictions are funny.
Back in 2003 it was all about:

The GOP's new Era of Dominance (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/25/politics/25REPU.html?ex=1054440000&en=c9773c65984a8295&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE)

lol

[vryhpyammoadded]

I love these chest thumping pieces politicians come out with or better yet, when they kick the supposed other team while it’s supposedly down. Sure, I predict Democrat dominance just as needed until its time for the shills and cons of the party(s) to nail another group to the sin removal cross. They have to keep appearances up you know.

[PeterRJG]

In 40 years time, maybe the US will have transcended the two horse race rut it's stuck in and has working viable alternatives. You know, real alternatives. Not ones that loudly trumpet whether they're pro-abortion or not.

[hell]

In 40 years time, maybe the US will have transcended the two horse race rut it's stuck in and has working viable alternatives. You know, real alternatives. Not ones that loudly trumpet whether they're pro-abortion or not.

It would be great, but probably won't happen. Not when the people in the two-horse race purposefully make rules to keep any dark horses out of said race.

Your country's politics are essentially hosed when your elected officials top priority is re-election.

[Soldat_Américain]

you means James Carville and his book, he's a good southern boy from Louisiana.

[Ordie]

I hope not.

I want a strong loyal opposition to keep government honest.

[3rdMillhouse]

Which democrats are we talking about? The raving-mad hippies, guevara-worshippers, commies? 40 years of those kind of democrats and your USA will end up like us, and it ain't a pretty sight.

[Soldat_Américain]

well we got a lot of "Southern Democrats" and a lot of hippies in leadership...but think about this Harry Reid is Mormon...and Mormon's are some of the most conservative folks I know.

[hell]

Which democrats are we talking about? The raving-mad hippies, guevara-worshippers, commies? 40 years of those kind of democrats and your USA will end up like us, and it ain't a pretty sight.

We probably won't experience that. The american democratic party is similar to the Republican party in that most are moderates, and there is only a "fringe" group of ultra-left and ultra-right politicians. That and we'll probably just continue to see-saw between a majority of Dems, then Republicans, then the Dems, etc. Moderates and Dems on the east and west coasts may have a lot of power, but our Bible Belt that is spread across the mid-west helps to balance things out, and they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.



I want a strong loyal opposition to keep government honest.

I'd like the same, but at this point, I'd just like to have an executive branch that respected and abided by the judgements from the Judiciary. The last administration brazenly ignored them, and Obama is on the same path already. Must be nice to live in a world where you only follow the rules when you feel like it. :|

[Soldat_Américain]

I'd like the same, but at this point, I'd just like to have an executive branch that respected and abided by the judgements from the Judiciary. The last administration brazenly ignored them, and Obama is on the same path already. Must be nice to live in a world where you only follow the rules when you feel like it. :|
Didn't you know that presidents make up their own as they go along...

[millertime]

Which democrats are we talking about? The raving-mad hippies, guevara-worshippers, commies? 40 years of those kind of democrats and your USA will end up like us, and it ain't a pretty sight.


There will be blood in the streets before that happens.

[Mastermind]

Out of sheer desperation and no place else to go the voters will put the Republicans back in power...after Obama and this bunch of loony Democrats, bloody doggie doolies will look like chocolate Ice Cream Pie with Cherries on top!

[matthew.manhorn]

Didn't the Americans back then think that the Republicans will dominate forever during the Reagan era? It took 12 years of Republican rule to vote Bush Sr. out of office....

[RxOnco]

No...it took 4 years of Bush Sr., a war, and "Read my lips...No...new...taxes."

If it weren't for term limits and the fact he's dead, Reagan would still be in office today.

[hell]

If it weren't for term limits and the fact he's dead, Reagan would still be in office today.

I'm not so sure about that. Reagen was a charismatic guy, but so was Bill Clinton. I think that going up against Clinton, as well as not having Lee Atwater in his re-election campaign, would have made that election a close one. But I'm just hypothesizing, we'll never know.

[HK in AK]

just vote out all the incumbents and force the change that all votes desire. Quit jumping on the same flea bag horse. A number of politicians of both parties are just disgusting anymore. The concept of honesty and the best interest of the public only exists when it serve the greedy ideals of the politicians.


I could use the term that I want to use, but profanity is not allowed, so I will save all of you from the raw feelings I have.

Take care

[Gat0r]

I don't think there is going to be much left to "dominate" in a couple years, the American people have been "dominated" enough by the republicrat system, look at the decrepid mess their domination has put us in, gd maybe people will finally stop buying into this revolving door bs. The more these clowns blab the more appearant their sheer ignorance and disconnect with reality shows. I don't get a very fuzzy and warm feeling inside when politicians use words like dominate, just goes to show their lust for power and control.

[khaz]

Those pinko commies over at the dnc will not be in power for 40 years, we are having a rerun of welcome back carter right now, jus hope our first kenyan born president does not spend us into oblivion before his election defeat.

[Fargin]

In 4 or 8 years democrats will be sick of democrats too. As soon as Bush left office, I instantly looked at him with kinder eyes. Just as I started to hate Obama the moment he won. A natural contempt for politicians in charge, makes it more difficult for some prick to declare himself appointed by god to enslave everybody for his own amusement.

[Ordie]

Americans are moderates. They are niether "Red" or "Blue" but purple.

Traditionally Americans have voted a President and Congress of opposite parties. This was a means to keep government in check and support local policies.

Bush Jr., a Republican, was so unpopular, that it tarnished the GOP brand and message in the 2006 mid-term and 2008 general elections. I blame Karl Rove for turning the 2006 & 2008 into a parlamentary election where people voted based on party affiliation rather than individual merits.

The DNC had very little influence over Obama. If the DNC had its choice, we would have president Clinton or McCain today. Obama flawless campaign organization and unique fundraising model overshadowed the DNC's contribution and influence. So much so, Obama can be its own political party.

As for the future, I forsee future elections as 'selling a brand' (with logos). Do not be surprised of the GOP and Dems or individual canidates will hire branding consulants as a means to sell the message to the voters. I expect both parties will 'dump' its 19th century elephant and donkey logos as they are meaningless to the voters.

In the meantime, Obama is being very strategic. He's tapping into his massive database of voters to pressure congress and making trips into swing states. Like his campaign, Obama has 'branded' his recovery project with its own logo. Thus whenever there is a construction site they'll see this logo.

http://www.recovery.gov/themes/recovery_v3/logo.png (http://www.recovery.gov/)

(Notice the "O"?)

[Mastermind]

Bama was elected to office primarily because he was simply the most popular of the two evils. It was a total disgrace when you compare the runners in the field that the American voters had to choose from. I was personally insulted as a voter that that was the best the American people could come up with. Our system really let us down this time...and it had to happen eventually. I think it was a "perfect storm" kind of thing that put that jackass in the oval office. Of course, I must say, I would have been equally ashamed if the other jackass had been elected....and I voted for the other jackass!

We have come to a place that is extraordinarily dangerous in history. Loons have come to rule...and this is what happens occasionally to all republics throughout history. You can look back and see that Rome survived several "Loons" in leadership...but at terrible cost and only by the thin margin of chance and fate did she survive them.

If chance and fate does not step in this time, I really fear the American experiment in democracy and freedom is at an end....and that would be an inglorious end...we will go out as so many republics before us have...with a pitiful whimper that history will hardly suffer to record...we will simply fade....and considering the discouraging spirit of Americans today, that end will be well deserved.

It will be the exiting of the "Mall Generation" and no one will bother turning off the lights...they will simply die out one-by-one from simply being ignored.

I think a new "Dark Age" is descending on human kind. So many people are so easily deceived and mis-led...and this is all the more pitiful because we have come to the dawn of a totally amazing age of information. But, no one thought when that new age came people would misuse it, only to look up each other's skirts instead of finding new horizons of science and mind. To be led down the easy paths of fed knowledge, like the absurdities of "global warming" and "Obama-ism" To let themselves be shown the stark dangers of the world and the evils of man and then to quickly look away instead to the fantasy worlds of "Save The Whales" and “The View" and "My-Space"...

They have completely forgotten there is a democracy to save and a world to govern.

What ever happens, the old saying will be true..."People always get the government they deserve."

[RxOnco]

Great post Mastermind.

[seraosha]

Bama was elected to office primarily because he was simply the most popular of the two evils. It was a total disgrace when you compare the runners in the field that the American voters had to choose from. I was personally insulted as a voter that that was the best the American people could come up with. Our system really let us down this time...and it had to happen eventually. I think it was a "perfect storm" kind of thing that put that jackass in the oval office. Of course, I must say, I would have been equally ashamed if the other jackass had been elected....and I voted for the other jackass!

We have come to a place that is extraordinarily dangerous in history. Loons have come to rule...and this is what happens occasionally to all republics throughout history. You can look back and see that Rome survived several "Loons" in leadership...but at terrible cost and only by the thin margin of chance and fate did she survive them.

If chance and fate does not step in this time, I really fear the American experiment in democracy and freedom is at an end....and that would be an inglorious end...we will go out as so many republics before us have...with a pitiful whimper that history will hardly suffer to record...we will simply fade....and considering the discouraging spirit of Americans today, that end will be well deserved.

It will be the exiting of the "Mall Generation" and no one will bother turning off the lights...they will simply die out one-by-one from simply being ignored.

I think a new "Dark Age" is descending on human kind. So many people are so easily deceived and mis-led...and this is all the more pitiful because we have come to the dawn of a totally amazing age of information. But, no one thought when that new age came people would misuse it, only to look up each other's skirts instead of finding new horizons of science and mind. To be led down the easy paths of fed knowledge, like the absurdities of "global warming" and "Obama-ism" To let themselves be shown the stark dangers of the world and the evils of man and then to quickly look away instead to the fantasy worlds of "Save The Whales" and “The View" and "My-Space"...

They have completely forgotten there is a democracy to save and a world to govern.

What ever happens, the old saying will be true..."People always get the government they deserve."

Excellent post, as almost always. Thanks, Trooper.

[Ordie]

Good post MM.

I don't know if I agree with you completely.
But you got me thinking.

[philbob]

Americans are moderates. They are niether "Red" or "Blue" but purple.

Traditionally Americans have voted a President and Congress of opposite parties. This was a means to keep government in check and support local policies.

Bush Jr., a Republican, was so unpopular, that it tarnished the GOP brand and message in the 2006 mid-term and 2008 general elections. I blame Karl Rove for turning the 2006 & 2008 into a parlamentary election where people voted based on party affiliation rather than individual merits.

The DNC had very little influence over Obama. If the DNC had its choice, we would have president Clinton or McCain today. Obama flawless campaign organization and unique fundraising model overshadowed the DNC's contribution and influence. So much so, Obama can be its own political party.

As for the future, I forsee future elections as 'selling a brand' (with logos). Do not be surprised of the GOP and Dems or individual canidates will hire branding consulants as a means to sell the message to the voters. I expect both parties will 'dump' its 19th century elephant and donkey logos as they are meaningless to the voters.

In the meantime, Obama is being very strategic. He's tapping into his massive database of voters to pressure congress and making trips into swing states. Like his campaign, Obama has 'branded' his recovery project with its own logo. Thus whenever there is a construction site they'll see this logo.

http://www.recovery.gov/themes/recovery_v3/logo.png (http://www.recovery.gov/)

(Notice the "O"?)

Recall during the election his 'O' replaced the American flag on his 757

[marktigger]

MM nice post the last sentence particularly apt for us in the UK

[XShipRider]

I hope not.

I want a strong loyal opposition to keep government honest.

I think we need to GET them honest again before we can keep them honest.