Eotech

[Robert_Mo]

What about eotech sights?
By the way, who produces the best red dots?

[Claymore]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=3&f=18

[rob]

there is no "best"

now that we got that out of the way, eotech just landed a large military contract, so that means the cant be bad, but that also means your going to have fun finding one right now.

[One_A]

Trijicon makes reflex sights that are pretty decent.

[TRACER_BULLET]

Trijicon makes reflex sights that are pretty decent.

I've heard only bad things about the trijicon reflex sights...
Try going to www.ar15.com they have good info about optics.

I have an Eotech & an Aimpoint both are great. Basicly it comes down to personal preferance.

:)

sorry about spelling i'm on my way to bed after an all nighter

[Geezah]

Trijicon makes reflex sights that are pretty decent.

I've heard only bad things about the trijicon reflex sights...
Try going to www.ar15.com they have good info about optics.

I have an Eotech & an Aimpoint both are great. Basicly it comes down to personal preferance.

:)

sorry about spelling i'm on my way to bed after an all nighter

I have a Trijicon reflex II on my M4ogery and I like it allot, it may not be as bright as an Eotech during the night but it's not bad ;)

[Claymore]

I have a Trijicon reflex II on my M4ogery and I like it allot, it may not be as bright as an Eotech during the night but it's not bad ;)

How about using sight in bright sunlight/with flashlight?

[rob]

trijicon also makes the tri power.

had some problems at first but from accounts they have been worked out, but the jury is still out on this one.

but it has a back up tritium and fiber obtic illumination if the battery dies something the competitors dont offer.

[tacticalmanta]

trijicon is the choice for many SOF units in the US and is what I have on my M-4....

[TRACER_BULLET]

All i have to say about this is to each his own.

Go HERE (http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=3&f=18) to get good info on optics. nuff said

[Aussie E]

As the above said to each their own.
My own:
TA31F (20" AR15) .223
TA11E (18" M1A Scout) .308
TX30 (16" AR15) .223
RX06-23 (AK-47) 7.62
TR20 (Bolt Action Remington) 25-06
TR21R (18.5" AR15) .223
TR21R (Lever Action Marlin) .45-70
All Trijicon, all great
On the RX06-23 (Reflex II) it is fine in sunlight, but does washout under flashlight and being in a dark area targeting a bright area. The TX30 (Tripower-which really is Quadpower when you count the cylum) is the latest addition to the collection and I really like it, haven't had it long enough to answer any durability questions but functionality and versitility is great.
You can see the three AR's with scopes at:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=335157&highlight=#335157

[Geezah]

I have a Trijicon reflex II on my M4ogery and I like it allot, it may not be as bright as an Eotech during the night but it's not bad ;)

How about using sight in bright sunlight/with flashlight?

I have one of those polarizing filters for my Reflex and this works pretty good with flashlight/bright light. Now on my AK I have a Kobra Red Dot and I like it but the Reflex wins out of the two. :)

[TRACER_BULLET]

hey Geezah,

I'm intrested in seeing a pic of your M4gery :D
I remember you posted pics from one of your shoots but I don't remember what your AR looks like.

I'll throw up a pic of mine if ya wanna see it :D

[Geezah]

hey Geezah,

I'm intrested in seeing a pic of your M4gery :D
I remember you posted pics from one of your shoots but I don't remember what your AR looks like.

I'll throw up a pic of mine if ya wanna see it :D

I'll try and take a pic tonight, since the Kentucky shoot I've added a Reflex II and an ARMS 40L, hope to have a KAC vert grip and Surefire M73 within the next couple of weeks.
Oh.....and then I'm going to ship it off to Kurts Kustom(?) to get the blasted mini-Y taken off and a much more people friendly brake put on.

[SMGLee]

Reflex is a solid sight, it is a better sight then the newly released Tri-power.

As far as Reflex is concern, I have problem with the amber dot under those parking lot orange lights, the dot disappear under Surefire 9v light, the blue tint on the lens obscure the target out pass 100 yard under twilight condition. My choice remains the Aimpoint or the EOTech. You really can't go wrong with either.

http://www.cltactical.com/LMT/LMTMRP-3.jpg
LMT MRP CQB rifle with EOTech 552 Rev F and Troy BUIS.

http://www.cltactical.com/LMT/LMTMRP-6.jpg
Same gun with Aimpoint M2 and ARMS #22/M68 mount

[TRACER_BULLET]

Reflex is a solid sight, it is a better sight then the newly released Tri-power.

As far as Reflex is concern, I have problem with the amber dot under those parking lot orange lights, the dot disappear under Surefire 9v light, the blue tint on the lens obscure the target out pass 100 yard under twilight condition. My choice remains the Aimpoint or the EOTech. You really can't go wrong with either.


LMT MRP CQB rifle with EOTech 552 Rev F and Troy BUIS.

Good info on the Reflex from a trust worthy source.

Chen, I'm always jealous when I see your rifles. :oops:
I'm going to start saving up for an LMT MRP now... maybe next year I'll have the funds. :lol:

(Chen thanks again for the ras package. :hug:)

Ok heres my rifle:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/621054/ar15rass.jpg

My next purchase will be a LaRue BUIS & Eotech mount. woot

[SMGLee]

Tracer, that looks just like my LMT M4. nice looking weapon.

LaRue mount is a must for EOtech, I definitely think the price is well worth it. I think you have an awesome BUIS, LaRue will not get you any advantage over your LMT.

[Aussie E]

Reflex is a solid sight, it is a better sight then the newly released Tri-power.

Do you really think so? I've had an Aimpoint, Reflex II (14MOA Tri) and the Tri(Quad)-Power, and really find the Tri-Power to be the most versatile and all round the better scope of the bunch. I haven't had it long enough to comment on ruggedness and I know the battary life isn't as long as the Aimpoint, but its back-up to the fiber/tridium anyways. The view is clearer then the Reflex II and the chevron is a great aiming reticle (have it in my 2 ACOG's aswell). I thought the Aimpoint was a better scope then the Reflex II. Just kept the Reflex II because it didn't need battaries and if I ever (which I doubt I will) get a Compact-ACOG, I'll have a complete line of Trijicon scopes.
What are your reasons of thinking the Reflex is a better scope?

[SMGLee]

The Tri-Power on the market is still what they call the civilian version. it leaks in water, the muzzle side signature is a problem and the chervon still faint in desert sun light. Tripower still got a lot more development to go to be consider a serious military grade optic.

Plus the blue tint of the dread Reflex fame is still evident on the Tri-power, the chervon is too thin for fast CQB target acquistion. and the huge dome control is something to get use to. all that power source, it is just a solution to an non-existing problem.

EOTech can operate on 12th setting out of total of twent for 1500 hours on AA lithium batteries.

Aimpoint claims a 1000 hours operation time on full power setting.

No operator will operator continously for 1000 plus hours.

For a regular joe like me, I change my batteries on all my gear on a six month interval. I use the old batteries on my TV remotes. :)

Hope this helps.

BTW, great taste on compact ACOG. I consider the TA31 to be the best general purpose optic anywhere. still a bit slower then an Aimpoint/EOTech but fast enough to get the job done and still be able to reach out and touch someone.

[Geezah]

Reflex is a solid sight, it is a better sight then the newly released Tri-power.

As far as Reflex is concern, I have problem with the amber dot under those parking lot orange lights, the dot disappear under Surefire 9v light, the blue tint on the lens obscure the target out pass 100 yard under twilight condition. My choice remains the Aimpoint or the EOTech. You really can't go wrong with either.


LMT MRP CQB rifle with EOTech 552 Rev F and Troy BUIS.

Good info on the Reflex from a trust worthy source.

Chen, I'm always jealous when I see your rifles. :oops:
I'm going to start saving up for an LMT MRP now... maybe next year I'll have the funds. :lol:

(Chen thanks again for the ras package. :hug:)

Ok heres my rifle:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/621054/ar15rass.jpg

My next purchase will be a LaRue BUIS & Eotech mount. woot

That a sweet looking rifle, I'll post some pics for sure over the weekend.

[Aussie E]

Some valid points.
My Tri-Power could be one of the 2nd generation ones, know the 1st generation had the problems you mentioned. It has less (barely noticable actually) of the blue tint then my Reflex II. I have to cover most of the fiber optic dome when I shoot in the desert, with the Reflex II I end up putting some electrician tape accros the bottom of the fiber optic, as both are to bright in the full sun. I never taken it into Lake Mead, so don't know about the water leak issue (and don't plan to in the near future). I have killflashes on my two ACOGs and the Reflex II and plan to get one for the Tri-Power as soon as they are available, which takes care of the muzzle-side signature. The controls are more then simple up/down (intensity) and off. Once you set the intensity and turn it off, all you have to do is either press up/down and it comes right on. I found that the highest level of night settings is a great starting point that will suite most circumstances. I was using it last weekend, doing some stuff in close (25M-) and found it fine. The triangle on the Reflex II definatly better for CQB but you do have a larger field of view with the Tri-Power I find the chevron is better on longer ranges as it doesn't cover as much of the target as the triangle.
The ACOG is great, I personally like the TA11's as they have a little more eye-relief and you dont have to get up on the scope as much as the TA31. The Accu-points are great, just not a military grade scope. The TR21 (1.25x-4x) has great eye relief, a post and triangle reticle and adjustable magnifications for different situations. It is on my 3-gun AR and works great for the run and guns as well as the distance stages. The new generations even have finger adjustable windage and drop knobs. Both the Tri-Power and the Accu-Point have adjustable brightness on their fiber-optic housings. I've found problems with the reticles being to bright and washing out the target.

[SMGLee]

Aussie,

The Tri-Power that is called the 2nd gen is still not a military grade optic. Trijicon have not fix their muzzle side signature problem and the water proofing is another problem. NSW require the unit to go to 66ft for 24 hours. Muzzle side signature is not lens reflection. a kill flash will not stop muzzle side signature. when you operate at night the muzzle side is visible with NVD and that is not something kill flash is design to do. the kill flash will eliminate any lens reflection from device like the Aimpoint or the Tri-Power because they have to use a semi reflective lens where as the EOTech which uses a laser holographic projection don't have to have a semi reflective lens thus EOTech do not require a kill flash.

I am not knocking Tri-power, it is just that the Reflex is a better suited optic for combat condition.

[Aussie E]

Got ya.
Hopefully, I'll never be in combat conditions. For my general shooting and if ever it comes to home defense, the Tri-Power should do just fine.
By the way great website. I've got most of my gooodies, but if I'm looking all definetly check there before I buy.

[SMGLee]

Got ya.
Hopefully, I'll never be in combat conditions. For my general shooting and if ever it comes to home defense, the Tri-Power should do just fine.
By the way great website. I've got most of my gooodies, but if I'm looking all definetly check there before I buy.

Thank you brother.

Take care.

[TRACER_BULLET]

Tracer, that looks just like my LMT M4. nice looking weapon.

LaRue mount is a must for EOtech, I definitely think the price is well worth it. I think you have an awesome BUIS, LaRue will not get you any advantage over your LMT.

Thanks for the kind words. :D
Yeah I really want one of those LaRue EOtech mounts but I found out the LMT BUIS takes up to many spaces to use the LaRue mount on the reciever. I've wondering if i could mount it like i have my EOtech currently, the other option is to mount the EOtech on the RAS.

Btw I saw a pic of the LMT 16.1" upper with MRE RAS your selling.http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/621054/eusa_drool.gif
If i had the $$ rite now, it'd be all mine. LOL! p-)
STUPID BILLS For some reason i dont get'm last month so now I'm taped this month. :(

[SMGLee]

Tracer,

I think you can mount part of the LaRue EOTech mount on the handguard. since the true locking block is on the rear of that mount, I think it might clear the delta ring. get the LaRue mount first and test it before spending the extra cash for the LaRue BUIS. Of course, you can always sell your LMT BUIS for good cash.

The LMT MRE combo is sold, if you ever need anything, give me a call and I will package it for you with a deal you can't refuse.

Take care and have a good 4th.

Chen Lee
www.CLTactical.com

[Geezah]

hey Geezah,

I'm intrested in seeing a pic of your M4gery :D
I remember you posted pics from one of your shoots but I don't remember what your AR looks like.

I'll throw up a pic of mine if ya wanna see it :D

Finally got round to taking a big pic today,
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/461_1088996392_dcp_0134.jpg

I should have my M73 witnin about 2wks so I'll post a new pic then :)

[Michael RVR]

Good info on the Reflex from a trust worthy source.

Chen, I'm always jealous when I see your rifles. :oops:
I'm going to start saving up for an LMT MRP now... maybe next year I'll have the funds. :lol:

(Chen thanks again for the ras package. :hug:)

Ok heres my rifle:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/621054/ar15rass.jpg

My next purchase will be a LaRue BUIS & Eotech mount. woot

TRACER_BULLET - It looks like the BUIS would interfere with the sight you've got mounted on there, would that not defeat the purpose of having it ?

I've seen it that way a few times, so i'm just asking ;)

[TRACER_BULLET]

TRACER_BULLET - It looks like the BUIS would interfere with the sight you've got mounted on there, would that not defeat the purpose of having it ?

I've seen it that way a few times, so i'm just asking ;)

hi michael,

My BUIS is "co-witnessing" with my EOtech. The BUIS doesn't interfere with your sight picture one bit, its actually rather easy to just look through the iron sites. Then if the optic were to fail ... you can switch to the irons with out any kinda extra movement.
:)

[TRACER_BULLET]

hey Geezah,

I'm intrested in seeing a pic of your M4gery :D
I remember you posted pics from one of your shoots but I don't remember what your AR looks like.

I'll throw up a pic of mine if ya wanna see it :D

Finally got round to taking a big pic today,


I should have my M73 witnin about 2wks so I'll post a new pic then :)

woot Schweet looking rig Geezah ! :D

[HoboWithAK]

Hey Tracer, are those the Tango Down battlegrip/vert forefrip on your M4gery? Do you like them?

[TRACER_BULLET]

Hey Tracer, are those the Tango Down battlegrip/vert forefrip on your M4gery? Do you like them?

Hobo,
Indeed they are ... the vert grip is a dream I love it. The battlegrip is also a nice upgrade, I got a sweet deal on it, thats why I got it but other wise its not nessary unless you need more battery storage. I really like the non slip grip on the battle grip.

:)

[Geezah]

hey Geezah,

I'm intrested in seeing a pic of your M4gery :D
I remember you posted pics from one of your shoots but I don't remember what your AR looks like.

I'll throw up a pic of mine if ya wanna see it :D

Finally got round to taking a big pic today,


I should have my M73 witnin about 2wks so I'll post a new pic then :)

woot Schweet looking rig Geezah ! :D

It's not quite up to scratch yet but hopefully within 6wks I should have it where I want it, thank you by the way ;)