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BlackFlag
05-20-2009, 03:58 AM
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Construction:

Laid down on October 31, 1912, at the Devonport Royal Dockyard, HMS Warspite was one of five Queen Elizabeth-class battleships built by the Royal Navy. The brainchild of First Sea Lord Admiral Sir John "Jackie" Fisher and First Lord of the Admiralty Winston Churchill, the Queen Elizabeth-class became the first battleship class to be designed around the new 15-inch gun. In laying out the ship, designers elected to mount the guns in four twin turrets. This was a change from previous battleships which had featured five twin turrets.

The reduction in number of guns was justified as the new 15-inch guns were substantially more powerful than their 13.5-inch predecessors. Also, the removal of the fifth turret reduced weight and allowed for a larger powerplant which dramatically increased the ships' speed. Capable of 24 knots, the Queen Elizabeths were the first "fast" battleships. Launched on November 26, 1913, Warspite, and it sisters, were among the most powerful battleships to see action during World War I. With the outbreak of the conflict in August 1914, workers raced to finish the ship and it was commissioned on March 8, 1915.

World War I:

Joining the Grand Fleet at Scapa Flow, Warspite was initially assigned to the 2nd Battle Squadron with Captain Edward Montgomery Phillpotts in command. Later that year, the battleship was damaged after running aground in the Firth of Forth. After repairs it was placed with the 5th Battle Squadron which consisted entirely of Queen Elizabeth-class battleships. On May 31-June 1, 1916, the 5th Battle Squadron saw action in the Battle of Jutland as part of Vice Admiral David Beatty's Battlecruiser Fleet. In the fighting, Warspite was hit fifteen times by German heavy shells.

Badly damaged, the battleship's steering jammed after it turned to avoid a collision with HMS Valiant. Steaming in circles, the crippled ship drew German fire away from the British cruiser in the area. After two complete circles, the Warspite's steering was repaired however it found itself on course to intercept the German High Seas Fleet. With one turret still operational, Warspite opened fire before being ordered to drop out of line to make repairs. Following the battle, the commander of the 5th Battle Squadron, Rear Admiral Hugh Evan-Thomas, directed Warspite to make for Rosyth for repairs.

Interwar Years:

Returning to service, Warspite spent the remainder of the war at Scapa Flow along with the majority of the Grand Fleet. In November 1918, it steamed out to aid in guiding the German High Seas Fleet into internment. After the war, Warspite alternated postings with the Atlantic Fleet and the Mediterranean Fleet. In 1934, it returned home for a large modernization project. Over the next three years, Warspite's superstructure was greatly modified, aircraft facilities were built, and improvements made to the ship's propulsion and weapons systems.

World War II:
Rejoining the fleet in 1937, Warspite was sent to the Mediterranean as the flagship of the Mediterranean Fleet. The battleship's departure was delayed for several months as the steering problem that had begun at Jutland continued to be an issue. When World War II began, Warspite was cruising the Mediterranean as the flagship of Vice Admiral Andrew Cunningham. Ordered to join the Home Fleet, Warspite took part in the British campaigns in Norway, and provided support during the Second Battle of Narvik.

Ordered back to the Mediterranean, Warspite saw action against the Italians during the Battles of Calabria (July 9, 1940) and Cape Matapan (March 27-29, 1941). Following these actions, Warspite was sent to the United States for repairs and re-gunning. Entering the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, the battleship was still there when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in December 1941. Departing later that month, Warspite joined the Eastern Fleet in the Indian Ocean. Flying the flag of Admiral Sir James Somerville, Warspite took part in the ineffective British efforts to block the Japanese Indian Ocean Raid.

Ordered back to the Mediterranean in 1943, Warspite joined Force H and provided fire support for the Allied invasion of Sicily that June. Remaining in the area, it fulfilled a similar mission when Allied troops landed at Salerno, Italy in September. On September 16, shortly after covering the landings, Warspite was struck by three heavy German glide bombs. One of these tore through the ship's funnel and blew a hole in the hull. Crippled, Warspite was towed to Malta for temporary repairs before moving on to Gibraltar and Rosyth.

Working quickly, the shipyard completed the repairs in time for Warspite to join the Eastern Task Force off Normandy. On June 6, 1944, Warspite provided gunfire support for Allied troops landing on Gold Beach. Shortly thereafter, it returned to Rosyth to have its guns replaced. En route, Warspite incurred damage after setting off a magnetic mine. After receiving temporary repairs, Warspite took part in bombardment missions off Brest, Le Havre and Walcheren. With the war moving inland, the Royal Navy placed the battle-worn ship in Category C Reserve on 1 February 1945. Warspite remained in this status for the remainder of the war.

After efforts to make the ship a museum failed, it was sold for scrap in 1947. During the tow to the breakers, Warspite broke loose and ran aground in Prussia Cove, Cornwall. Though defiant until the end, the battleship was recovered and taken to St. Michael's Mount where it was dismantled.

TR1
05-20-2009, 03:15 PM
That veteran really did its share of wartime duty.
Good post!

curlyboy
05-20-2009, 04:22 PM
The single most battle honoured ship in the history of the Royal Navy and she served everywhere and i love the fact she did not go to the scrappy's without another fight.

It is a shame that we could not preserve her like they did HMS Victory and HMS Belfast for example.

curlyboy

skipperbob
05-20-2009, 06:31 PM
The greatest warship in the history of the US Navy, the carrier Enterprise CV 6 was scrapped and I always thought it was a shame not to have saved it as a memorial but I was lucky enough to have a chance a few years ago to talk with a man who served on her for three years, from 1942 - 1944 and when I said it was too bad she wasn't saved he replied he was glad the ship had been broken up! He had been through so many battles on board the Enterprise that he felt it would have been disrespectful to turn it into a tourist attraction. He was glad that the only men to walk her decks were the men who fought her through the war, and "not a bunch of civilians" as he said with disdain! I had never thought of it that way and I'm still not sure how I feel. I would have loved to be able to see the Enterprise, but that old chief had a point too!

Euroamerican
05-20-2009, 07:14 PM
^--- interesting viewpoint, skipperbob. I respect that man's opinion. He's right. They'd probably have "history of diversity" displays on the ship and whatnot..


The single most battle honoured ship in the history of the Royal Navy and she served everywhere and i love the fact she did not go to the scrappy's without another fight.

It is a shame that we could not preserve her like they did HMS Victory and HMS Belfast for example.

curlyboy

'tis sad, but all the surviving navies quickly got rid of the ships that were built "pre-war" rather after the war ended. It's actually rather surprising at first when you read about battleships and cruisers being idled even before VE day.

I still think they should've saved at least one of the King George V class BBs or the Vanguard. So sad... Battleships were simply no longer fashionable at the same period of time in which the decisions were made whether to save some as museum ships.

SineJustitia
05-21-2009, 07:34 AM
He was glad that the only men to walk her decks were the men who fought her through the war, and "not a bunch of civilians" as he said with disdain!

Well, maybe's he's got a point, but the Victory is not being overrun by tourists either. Preserving a ship doesn't necessarily mean she will be turned into USS Disneyland.

Anyway: interesting post, and I think I like the way this thread is going. Could become an interesting discussion: have war musea become tourist traps?

curlyboy
05-21-2009, 05:53 PM
Well, maybe's he's got a point, but the Victory is not being overrun by tourists either. Preserving a ship doesn't necessarily mean she will be turned into USS Disneyland.

Anyway: interesting post, and I think I like the way this thread is going. Could become an interesting discussion: have war musea become tourist traps?

It is true to a point but Victory is still a commisioned warship so they may limit her exposure to tourists?

But maybe the expense of keeping the ship would also be a factor as Victory has cost (and still does) an immense amount of money to restore and maintain but i would say she is definately worth it considering her place in history.

Where HMS Belfast a 11,000 ton cruiser apparently costs in the region of £5000 a week to operate and maintain could you imagine how much the 33,000+ ton Warspite would cost plus she could never be berthed in London.

I mean how many visitors would say USS texas a ship of similar age and lineage get but i suppose she is better to physically have than just being a picture?

curlyboy

HellToupee
05-21-2009, 06:05 PM
Well, maybe's he's got a point, but the Victory is not being overrun by tourists either. Preserving a ship doesn't necessarily mean she will be turned into USS Disneyland.

Anyway: interesting post, and I think I like the way this thread is going. Could become an interesting discussion: have war musea become tourist traps?


Yea but its more about pride than anything, don't think the Brits will have another ship that deserves so much pride ever again.

goat89
05-21-2009, 06:07 PM
Till the very end.

[WDW]Megaraptor
05-21-2009, 06:33 PM
Where HMS Belfast a 11,000 ton cruiser apparently costs in the region of £5000 a week to operate and maintain could you imagine how much the 33,000+ ton Warspite would cost plus she could never be berthed in London.

I mean how many visitors would say USS texas a ship of similar age and lineage get but i suppose she is better to physically have than just being a picture?

curlyboy

I know the USS North Carolina battleship museum and memorial funds itself through charging admission.

SineJustitia
05-22-2009, 03:37 AM
Megaraptor;4144255']I know the USS North Carolina battleship museum and memorial funds itself through charging admission.


And there you go: the flooding tourists might be offensive to survivors, but on the other hand, they're the ones enabling the ship to survive.

I say let them flood the decks, as long as the ship herself is being kept in pristine shape and is not refitted with burgerstands, sodashops and neon-lights. And kids should be prevented from using the guns as a climbing rack.:bash:

curlyboy
05-22-2009, 05:56 AM
On a similar note i went onto the Queen Mary at Long Beach a few years ago and there was a old gentleman there who had served on the Queen in the early 60's and he said it was a shame that she seemed deserted compared to when she was carrying passengers which was a terrible waste, but he was happy the old girl was still around (in a stripped down form though).

Th thing is with preserving large items (ships, buildings etc) is that without the tourist pull they are just superflous in this modern world and if the kiddies have to run around screaming to keep them about it is a price worth paying i would say.

curlyboy

jmkas
05-22-2009, 02:20 PM
I think the ships should be kept for several reasons. They are an example of past ingenuity, a memorial to all that served and gave the ultimate and also as a warning to future generations as to what lengths man will go to invest resources and time to create a machine for killing.

[WDW]Megaraptor
05-22-2009, 04:35 PM
I say let them flood the decks, as long as the ship herself is being kept in pristine shape and is not refitted with burgerstands, sodashops and neon-lights. And kids should be prevented from using the guns as a climbing rack.:bash:

There are ways to compromise, for example at the North Carolina one room of the ship is fitted out as a memorial to all citizens of the state of North Carolina who were killed in WW2. This room has the US flag, the flags of all 5 service branches, and the names of all the service members inscribed on the wall, with signs asking visitors to remain quiet as the room is a memorial.

skipperbob
05-22-2009, 09:37 PM
As long as people realize that on these ships they are visiting, men died. A tour should be like a trip to a memorial or a cemetery, showing the proper respect.

I have visited the Constitution several times and I think because it is still commissioned in the US Navy that most people seem to treat the visit properly. It is so revealing to see something like that from a long ago time and when they take her out for her yearly turn around sail, it is amazing!