The Taliban Chief is Mad, Says His Doctor.....

[Rebel 7]

The Taliban chief is mad, says his doctor
(Filed: 07/10/2001)

The one-eyed Taliban leader suffers fits and brain seizures that he claims are 'visions', a physician who treats him tells Christina Lamb in Quetta. At other times he sits in one of his cars turning the wheel while he makes noises like an engine


MULLAH OMAR, the one-eyed leader of the Taliban currently defying the West, is mentally unstable and suffers fits during which he babbles incomprehensibly, according to one of his personal physicians.

"He locks himself away for two or three days at a time and the official line is that he is having visions, but in fact he is suffering brain seizures," said the doctor who works at a hospital in the mullah's home town of Kandahar.

According to the doctor, who cannot be named for fear that he will be killed, this mental instability is the real reason why the 43-year-old cleric is so reclusive.

Only one photograph exists of the mullah and he is so rarely seen outside the bomb-proof house built for him in Kandahar by Osama bin Laden that most Afghans have no idea what he looks like.

He makes no public speeches and has always refused to meet foreigners. He has never travelled abroad apart from to Pakistan, and has seen little of his own country, only visiting the capital, Kabul, twice. When he does venture out, it is in a convoy of Japanese off-road vehicles with darkened windows and gun-toting bodyguards.

Such a mythical status has grown around the man who holds the fate of Afghanistan in his hands, that he is able to pass off his fits as visions during which he receives instructions for creating a pure Islamic state.

It is after such seizures that he has issued edicts prohibiting kite-flying, football and music, in addition to banning women from working and wearing high heels or shoes that click under their burkhas, the tent-like garments that all Afghan women must wear.

Apart from these fits, the Taliban leader suffers from serious depression, alternating with bouts of childlike behaviour where he sits in the driving seat of one of his cars, turning the wheel while making the noise of an engine.

The disclosures suggests that there is little prospect of the American-led coalition against terrorism being able to enter into any rational negotiation with the man who holds the fate of Afghanistan in his hands.

Mullah Omar has refused to undergo a brain scan. His doctors believe that these mood swings may be a result of shrapnel lodged in his brain when he lost his eye in 1989 during a Russian rocket attack on his mosque in a village just north of Kandahar.

According to one of the many legends that surround him, he pulled out the useless eye and threw it on to the floor. Little else is known about the preacher, the son of landless peasants, who has three wives and seems determined to drag a country, which was already one of the poorest in the world, back into the Middle Ages.

The first that most Afghans heard of Mullah Omar was in 1994 when he and a few other former mujahideen appalled by the way that Afghanistan had descended into chaos and banditry, formed an organisation of Taliban, or Islamic students, who portrayed themselves as a liberation movement.

Funded by businessmen and traders, they swept through southern Afghanistan to capture Kabul in 1995, denying that they wanted anything for themselves beyond re-establishing law and order and restoring rule to traditional leaders.

Once in power, they implemented the strictest interpretation of Sharia law that the world has ever seen, smashing television sets and videos, executing people for adultery, closing all girls' schools and banning all forms of entertainment.

A minimum length of beard was instituted, homo******s were crushed to death under walls and women were beaten for such offences as wearing white socks.

"These are not visions at all," insisted the cleric's doctor. "They are the product of an unstable but manipulative mind cynically exploiting the fact that the majority of Afghans are illiterate and almost none of them can read the Koran or understand the prayers they are reciting."

Few dare question the man declared Amir-ul-Momnein or Ruler of all Muslims in 1998, only the third person ever to receive such a title. Nothing happens in Taliban-ruled Afghanistan without his approval, and last week he issued orders to shoot anyone suspicious or anti-Taliban.

Regards,
Rebel 7

[usa320]

good i hope he lives a painful rest of his life...

We should just set up surveilance on this hospital and nab him next time he goes to visit the doctor.

[Rebel 7]

good i hope he lives a painful rest of his life...

We should just set up surveilance on this hospital and nab him next time he goes to visit the doctor.

The article is rather old (late 2001) and I doubt he visits a doctor now since he is a wanted man (with a reward of millions of dollars for his head). However, if he is being treated by a doctor....I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Pakistani doctor sent by the ISI to treat him while he is hiding in the region between the Afghan-Pakistani border.

Regards,
Rebel 7

[American Patriot]

good i hope he lives a painful rest of his life...

We should just set up surveilance on this hospital and nab him next time he goes to visit the doctor.

Yeah, 3 years ago.

Where has this prick gone to now?

[Rebel 7]

good i hope he lives a painful rest of his life...

We should just set up surveilance on this hospital and nab him next time he goes to visit the doctor.

Yeah, 3 years ago.

Where has this prick gone to now?

You know how Musharraf kept saying, "There are no terrorists, Al Qaida or Taliban in Pakistan!" and then every week a known Al Qaida or Taliban member would be arrested in Pakistan......well go figure! If he isn't in the mountains bordering Pakistan and Afghanistan, he is most likely in a village in the NWFP of Pakistan.


Regards,
Rebel 7

[Supes]

good i hope he lives a painful rest of his life...

We should just set up surveilance on this hospital and nab him next time he goes to visit the doctor.

The article is rather old (late 2001) and I doubt he visits a doctor now since he is a wanted man (with a reward of millions of dollars for his head). However, if he is being treated by a doctor....I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Pakistani doctor sent by the ISI to treat him while he is hiding in the region between the Afghan-Pakistani border.

Regards,
Rebel 7

interesting, so the ISI is really still corrupted.

[Rebel 7]

good i hope he lives a painful rest of his life...

We should just set up surveilance on this hospital and nab him next time he goes to visit the doctor.

The article is rather old (late 2001) and I doubt he visits a doctor now since he is a wanted man (with a reward of millions of dollars for his head). However, if he is being treated by a doctor....I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Pakistani doctor sent by the ISI to treat him while he is hiding in the region between the Afghan-Pakistani border.

Regards,
Rebel 7

interesting, so the ISI is really still corrupted.

Of course! The ISI is like a "police by day, thief by night" agency. The ISI only looks for the interests of Pakistan and considering the Afghan-Pakistan conflict (which isn't well known) during the 70's and earlier in which relations between the two nations turned sour, an unstable Afghanistan filled with pro-Pakistani mullahs and crazy lunatics are preferred over a democratic and stable Afghanistan since it may later on develop the army and military might to challenge Pakistan's. Pakistan doesn't want to be sandwiched between two enemies (one being India and the other being an Afghan government that is more friendly with India.) which is why they created the Taliban to go fight their proxy war in Afghanistan and take power and which is why now they continue to play a "police by day, thief by night" with the coalition. The ISI doesn't want a government in power that isn't ultra-pro-Pakistani, which the Karzai government isn't in comparison to the Taliban (who were).

Regards,
Rebel 7

[SpazzMunky]

Im not too surprised that this guy is nuts.

[ariweiner]

LOL, I have met people who have personally met Mullah Umar and therefore I can say without question that this article is rubbish.

[usa320]

for some reason that doesnt surprise me...

:fork:

[Fintin]

LOL, I have met people who have personally met Mullah Umar and therefore I can say without question that this article is rubbish.


i smell hot burning rubbish....wait...its airweener....

[Rebel 7]

LOL, I have met people who have personally met Mullah Umar and therefore I can say without question that this article is rubbish.

I also met Mullah Omar, prove me wrong!

You know how many people (both Afghan and non-Afghan) that I have spoken to that have told me they also have met Mullah Omar.
There is only one person in the US (I don't know if he lives there anymore) that had met and seen Mullah Omar. The rest are just morons trying to look extra cool to their pro-Taliban buddies who are eager to get the Mullah's signature. Btw...did you know that Mullah Omar isn't even a Mullah, he didn't complete the necessary requirements to be considered a Mullah...

Did they also tell you they met superman?

Regards,
Rebel 7

[usa320]

Ariwiener if that is true, i think we need to bring into question the kind of people you are associating with...

[Rebel 7]

Ariwiener if that is true, i think we need to bring into question the kind of people you are associating with...

What his friends told him is a lie and he is a gullible fool to believe something so untrue, especially when there is evidence to counter his claims so easily. Unless this Ari is hanging out with or met with the inner circle of Al Qaida (which I doubt) or he has spoken to relatives of Mullah Omar and villagers who are from the same village as Mullah Omar (which I highly doubt), what his friends have told is nothing short of my friends telling me they met the Flash or the real Spiderman.

In Afghanistan, even long-time members of the Taliban had never actually seen the Mullah, let alone meet Mullah Omar, and yet we have this kid on some forum telling me that he has "friends" who met the lame Mullah?! If the Mullah was so open to interviews and just almost any Arab, Pakistani, pro-Talib Afghan, Chechen friend of Ari (who lies to look cool by telling him that they met his hero, Mullah Omar) could get to meet him, the US wouldn't have so much difficulty finding the guy and certainly some Afghan peasant would be $25 million rich by now.

Nice try, but no opium there Ari!

The reason why you are so quick to throw away the article with such a lame counter argument as "I have friends who met Mullah Omar, thus the article is rubbish" is only further insight into your gullible and twisted character eager to clear his conscience of any feeling of guilt for supporting a killing-machine (the Taliban) and the easiest way to do that for you is not to investigate the article or adjust your views accordingly to make you face less cognitive dissonance but rather pretend that it is untrue with such bold claims as "I have friends who met Mullah Omar."

Regards,
Rebel 7

[jizzmonkey]

LOL, I have met people who have personally met Mullah Umar and therefore I can say without question that this article is rubbish.

dude you ARE a "weiner"!

[SeanAshi]

I seen a very short video clip of Mullah Omar or it may not have been him but he was holding a cloak up in the air while others touched it, he was claiming it once belonged to Muhammed. It was in Southern Afghanistan

[ariweiner]

Unless this Ari is hanging out with or met with the inner circle of Al Qaida (which I doubt) or he has spoken to relatives of Mullah Omar and villagers who are from the same village as Mullah Omar (which I highly doubt), what his friends have told is nothing short of my friends telling me they met the Flash or the real Spiderman.
The person whom I met was the head of a movement in Pakistan on a US tour. You will easily recognize his name if I told you. I stick to it that this particular article is garbage and shoddy "jounalism."

[usa320]

You will easily recognize his name if I told you

THen tell us.

[ariweiner]

THen tell us.
Lol, the truth is that I have forgotten his name. He was in the Pakistani delegation of 'Ulama that visited Mullah Umar. He visited California sometime in 2000 if I remember correctly. When I remember his name I will post it. They had a flyer announcing a speech that he was giving in a local mosque. It's around somewhere, let me look for it.

[Rebel 7]

Unless this Ari is hanging out with or met with the inner circle of Al Qaida (which I doubt) or he has spoken to relatives of Mullah Omar and villagers who are from the same village as Mullah Omar (which I highly doubt), what his friends have told is nothing short of my friends telling me they met the Flash or the real Spiderman.
The person whom I met was the head of a movement in Pakistan on a US tour. You will easily recognize his name if I told you. I stick to it that this particular article is garbage and shoddy "jounalism."

Asking a pro-Talib Pakistani cleric about Mullah Omar and his character is like asking a skinhead about Hitler and Hitler's character. Of course you are NOT going to hear anything even close to the truth especially when it is mostly negative. What you will hear is often exaggerated to points where the statements are utter lies. Here, why don't you ask General Akhtar (former ISI head) about the Taliban too! I bet he'll tell you the whole truth (sarcasm).

The statements are not taken by enemies of Mullah Omar, in fact most of those who had met Mullah Omar and had some common sense and a conscience, came out and exposed him for what he was, a lame, lying, savage, and deceitful man. The one man in the US who did meet Mullah Omar and knew him personally exposed him and his statements match almost word for word what these other former ex-Talibs claim.
Oh and here is another lie you still probably believe.....the shed they have up as Mullah Omar's house in some pro-Taliban websites is NOT his house, but is used by his propaganda artists to depict him as man making sacrificies and not living the "materialistic" life.....complete opposite of the truth!


Regards,
Rebel 7

[Fintin]

THen tell us.
Lol, the truth is that I have forgotten his name. He was in the Pakistani delegation of 'Ulama that visited Mullah Umar. He visited California sometime in 2000 if I remember correctly. When I remember his name I will post it. They had a flyer announcing a speech that he was giving in a local mosque. It's around somewhere, let me look for it.

so...your friend...is a guy you have a flyer about him giving a speach...yep...your dumb

[Rebel 7]

THen tell us.
Lol, the truth is that I have forgotten his name. He was in the Pakistani delegation of 'Ulama that visited Mullah Umar. He visited California sometime in 2000 if I remember correctly. When I remember his name I will post it. They had a flyer announcing a speech that he was giving in a local mosque. It's around somewhere, let me look for it.

so...your friend...is a guy you have a flyer about him giving a speach...yep...your dumb

There are a few hardcore pro-Talib mullahs in Pakistan who did meet Mullah Omar (remember this was most likely before Sept. 11). The fact of the matter is before Sept. 11, many Pakistani mullahs and even Taliban commanders came to the US to plead their case and ask for recognition for their government (or lack thereof). Of course, it only makes sense that these buddies of Mullah Omar wouldn't go, "Yeah Ari, Mullah Omar is actually a really dumb moron who gives out dollars from a tin can, can't write anything besides his name, and uses his thumb as a signature, and is suffering from brain seizures that make him act crazy."

While hearing the buddy of Mullah Omar tell Ari about Mullah Omar, Ari was thinking, "Oh, these friends of Mullah Omar, who have objectives on the line and gain by lying and making Mullah Omar look all intelligent and decent to the world, CAN'T possibly be lying to me!"

Intelligent and an independent thinker?! I don't think so!
Gullible and stupid?! Yes!

Regards,
Rebel 7

[Rebel 7]

LOL, I have met people who have personally met Mullah Umar and therefore I can say without question that this article is rubbish.


The person whom I met was the head of a movement in Pakistan on a US tour. You will easily recognize his name if I told you. I stick to it that this particular article is garbage and shoddy "jounalism."


Lol, the truth is that I have forgotten his name.


LOL, I have met people who have personally met Mullah Umar and therefore I can say without question that this article is rubbish.

You can say without question that this article is "rubbish" uh?! Well, in order to question something, you are required to think (keyword being THINK), which I doubt you do, so I understand why you claim "I can say without question that this article is rubbish."

No, you HAVEN'T met PEOPLE, you have met a PERSON, whose name you don't remember, whose speech was posted on a flyer like a cheap grocery sale, and who was a pro-Talib Pakistani cleric (the last guys you'd ever go to for an interview to find out the "truth" about Mullah Omar or the Taliban...while you are at it...you might as well visit the skinheads in Europe and ask them what Hitler was like). In fact, you not only seem to contradict yourself over and over, but end up shooting yourself in the foot in the process. Your initial statement was inflated with "people" to give the readers here the false impression that you knew more than ONE source about your claims and your attempt to consider the article "garbage" and "shoddy journalism." Now, you claim that it was A PERSON who'll be easily recognized if you post their name. Then you go on to further claim (once asked) that you in fact DON'T know the man's name while claiming that the readers would (when you yourself who met him don't remember his name, where did you get the idea that most of the readers here who didn't attend the annual "Pro-Talib Pakistani Mullahs FOR Crazy Gun-Totting Taliban Lunatics" conference would?!). The only thing coming to light from post after post by you in this thread is that you are nothing but a gullible fool easily bended by the lies spewed forth by the same Mullahs who helped create and take part in the Taliban. A Pakistani pro-Talib Mullah will tell you as much truth about Mullah Omar, bin Laden, or the Taliban as a hardcore skinhead would tell you of Hitler and the Nazi regime.

Conclusion: Ari's claim is "garbage" and "shoddy!"

I hope nobody on this forum takes this guy seriously on ANY issue and let this thread be a prime example of why!

Regards,
Rebel 7

[ariweiner]

Ok I finally remembered. It was Dr. Israr Ahmed head of Tanzeem Islami, See here for more: http://www.jamiat.org.za/al-jamiat/june/taliban.html And btw, this was not a one time meeting. I've met him several dozens of times and I do consider him a friend.

[Rebel 7]

Ok I finally remembered. It was Dr. Israr Ahmed head of Tanzeem Islami, See here for more: http://www.jamiat.org.za/al-jamiat/june/taliban.html And btw, this was not a one time meeting. I've met him several dozens of times and I do consider him a friend.

I guess you found the flyer uh?! Yeah, I guess interviewing a skinhead on Hitler and the Nazi regime a dozen or more times makes the claim more truthful! (sarcasm in case you didn't notice)

Human stupidity is truly infinite!

Regards,
Rebel 7

[ariweiner]

Lol, why don't you provide me with some verifiable independent sources that confirm that Mullah Umar is insane? Better yet, why not show me any out-of-the-world comments that he has made to prove that he is insane? But you probably won't since all you have to offer are accusations.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Lol, why don't you provide me with some verifiable independent sources that confirm that Mullah Umar is insane? Better yet, why not show me any out-of-the-world comments that he has made to prove that he is insane? But you probably won't since all you have to offer are accusations.

In short, your full of ****. I'm not sure how you can breathe at the moment, as you are so full you eyes are going brown. Rebel 7 knows alot more about this subject then you do, you heard a pro-talibani doctor talk about him. He's heard the citizens of Afghanistan (that probably would give alot more truthfull response then a pro-talibani Dr, besides you can drum up support if the man is a religous fanatic that has brain problems), you heard it by proxy from a definate biased source. Case closed.

[vikingblade]

hhaaaa...this was a good bit of break down the dumbass. you guys should be lawyers...hehe.

as far as this psycho, one eyed prick goes, he needs to be stripped naked in public, with music blaring, people dancing, be bent over, raped in his ass and empty eye socket at the same time, laughed at, pissed on and then have a naked woman in high-heels slowly cut his throat. and while im at it, throw bin-ladin in there as well, after his eye is torn out of course.

lets give these chicken-**** pussys what they fear so much.