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Eye
05-24-2009, 03:36 AM
WASHINGTON – Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will soon announce that gay American diplomats will be given benefits similar to those that their hetero****** counterparts enjoy, U.S. officials said Saturday.
In a notice to be sent soon to State Department employees, Clinton says regulations that denied same-*** couples and their families the same rights and privileges that straight diplomats enjoyed are "unfair and must end," as they harm U.S. diplomacy.
"Providing training, medical care and other benefits to domestic partners promote the cohesiveness, safety and effectiveness of our posts abroad," she says in the message, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press.
"It will also help the department attract and retain personnel in a competitive environment where domestic partner benefits and allowances are increasingly the norm for world-class employers," she says.
"At bottom, the department will provide these benefits for both opposite-*** and same-*** domestic partners because it is the right thing to do," Clinton says.
Among the benefits that will now be granted gay diplomats: the right of domestic partners to hold diplomatic passports, government-paid travel for their partners and families to and from foreign posts, and the use of U.S. medical facilities abroad.
In addition, gay diplomats' families will now be eligible for U.S. government emergency evacuations and training courses at the Foreign Service Institute, the message says.
The announcement, expected this week, was provided to the AP by a State Department official who is a member of the Gays and Lesbians in Foreign Affairs Agencies organization. Two department officials not affiliated with the organization confirmed its accuracy.
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the changes.
Previously, the State Department had withheld some benefits from the families of gay diplomats, citing the Defense of Marriage Law, which had restricted federal recognition of same-*** marriages.
One former ambassador, Michael Guest, resigned from the foreign service in 2007 to protest the restrictions. Guest was a part of the Obama administration's State Department transition team and played a major role in lobbying for the changes.
Clinton told members of Congress last week that she would soon announce the revisions.

US seems to be leader of progress nowadays.

HollywoodMarine
05-24-2009, 04:42 AM
Freggin Hillary... that's so gay.

Soldat_Américain
05-24-2009, 04:44 AM
how's this gonna get through congress...or is she ruling by decree?

Eye
05-24-2009, 06:21 AM
I wonder if so called "hetero" diplomats would be/are allowed to take with them their boy/girlfriend, lovers or other kinds of partners for taxpayers money.

tercio67
05-24-2009, 06:30 AM
I wonder if so called "hetero" diplomats would be/are allowed to take with them their boy/girlfriend, lovers or other kinds of partners for taxpayers money.


"At bottom, the department will provide these benefits for both opposite-*** and same-*** domestic partners because it is the right thing to do," Clinton says.

While not recognising same-*** marriage at a federal level it simply will extend the same rights to all personnel of the state department.
It is/was a departemental policy and therefore no special permission is needed to implement this change.

SirGene
05-25-2009, 01:09 AM
Do the Arab - Muslim - Islamo-Facist diplomats meet these gay diplomats?

Ordie
05-25-2009, 02:09 AM
Do the Arab - Muslim - Islamo-Facist diplomats meet these gay diplomats?

No different than Jewish or Mormon diplomat would be treated.

It is a long term principle and policy that State Dept. Employees should be represented by the society it serves. The new policy will end separate but equal treatment of FSO .

Good move

Blue_0
05-25-2009, 02:30 AM
Do the Arab - Muslim - Islamo-Facist diplomats meet these gay diplomats?

It may be immature of me, but I get a kick out of the concept of a bigot having to sit down with what he hates the most.

-- Bluelight

angry cow
05-25-2009, 08:00 AM
Do the Arab - Muslim - Islamo-Facist diplomats meet these gay diplomats?

Some have voiced concerns over whether an openly homo****** diplomat could be accepted by less progressive nations. But, people said the same thing about Madeline Albright, "people won't respect her because she's a woman." And every State Dept head since then has been a woman excepting of course, Colin Powell.

It just hasn't really been a problem. The diplomats that we deal with tend to be more educated then the public they serve, more times then not they have post-graduate education from the US or UK.

All I can say is good for the State Dept, now we need to end the hypocrisy of kicking people out for homo****** relationships in DoD. They ignore the parts of Chapter X Article 125 that state people can't participate in anal or oral *** with someone (even in marriage, such as Sodomy has been defined in US case law), but draw an absolute line at open expression of homo******ity.

Just amend article 125 to say: "No ****** contact of any kind with kids or animals." There, problem solved.

By the way this is a job for Congress, not Gen. Petraeus, Adm Mullen, Secretary Gates, or President Obama. Only Congress can change the UCMJ.

SirGene
05-25-2009, 11:36 AM
Do the Arab - Muslim - Islamo-Facist diplomats meet these gay diplomats?

I got an infraction for the above quote by Ngati Tumatauenga (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=1401) ANZAC Moderator.

Dear SirGene,

You have received an infraction at Military Photos.

Reason: Flame bait
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Adjust that attitude or your stay here wil be brief.
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This infraction is worth 6 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

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My question was tollaty reagarding the cultural perceptions when the above 2 sets of people meet. Obviously, this moderator took it to his/her heart.

LazerLordz
05-25-2009, 12:02 PM
I got an infraction for the above quote by Ngati Tumatauenga (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=1401) ANZAC Moderator.

Dear SirGene,

You have received an infraction at Military Photos.

Reason: Flame bait
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Adjust that attitude or your stay here wil be brief.
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This infraction is worth 6 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

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My question was tollaty reagarding the cultural perceptions when the above 2 sets of people meet. Obviously, this moderator took it to his/her heart.

Perhaps you might want to watch the terminology that you have used... It is a likely source of flaming.

Respect religions and don't poke fun at them.

California Joe
05-25-2009, 12:48 PM
Even the Disney Corp offers benefits to same *** couples. Who cares. Stop acting like gay diplomats don't have to act like hetero diplomats and observe all the same protocols.

wildcat
05-25-2009, 12:52 PM
I don't care about them have equal rights or not, non of my business, but more concerned about overstepping law, who gives Clinton the right? Appears she does not follow what she swore to uphold.

If this is addressed by law then it will become federal law for all, should that not be the case.

Ordie
05-25-2009, 07:05 PM
I don't care about them have equal rights or not, non of my business, but more concerned about overstepping law, who gives Clinton the right? Appears she does not follow what she swore to uphold.

If this is addressed by law then it will become federal law for all, should that not be the case.

Salaries and benefits within the State Department are determined between the collective bargaining representatives of employees and employers.

Bifrost
05-26-2009, 11:53 AM
Brilliant. US State Dep definitely has nothing more important on its agenda then gay "rights".

Ordie
05-26-2009, 12:44 PM
Brilliant. US State Dep definitely has nothing more important on its agenda then gay "rights".

If we are going to attract America's best and brightest in our Diplomatic Corps, we need to offer comparable salaries and benefits that are being offered in the private sector.

Domestic partnership benefits are the norm with Fortune 500 companies as well as many state, county and municipal governments.

The policy applies to all regardless of gender, marital status and orientation.

Good move.

California Joe
05-26-2009, 12:49 PM
Brilliant. US State Dep definitely has nothing more important on its agenda then gay "rights".

Well, being Bifrost, I'd think you'd be in favor of it. ;)

It doesn't take much to amend the current policy, just a few extra boxes checked and a new beneficiary page filled out. It really doesn't make one gawddamned bit of difference to any other GS employee.