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michailk
05-28-2009, 03:49 PM
Toward a Solution of the Kurdish Problem
The Nature of the Kurdish Problem
The essentials of the Kurdish problem can be reduced to four key elements in any search for a solution. First, while there are multiple aspects to the Kurdish problem, it is essential to recognize that the problem is fundamentally an ethnic one, thereby requiring an ethnic solution. The emergence of ethnic politics among the Kurds, as we described earlier, comes as a reaction to the official Turkish nationalism of the modern Turkish state and reflects a
wider growth of ethnic consciousness on a global basis. The emergence of different ethnicities within one state does not, of course, imply automatic conflict. But historically, conflict has periodically arisen between Turks and
Kurds.

Major economic improvements and increased democratization in the southeast will help alleviate some symptoms of the crisis, but in the end a solution that addresses the ethnic character of the problem is required. At a minimum that means clear recognition of the existence of the Kurds as a culturally distinct identity, and recognition of the rights of Kurds to express their culture fully under a system of cultural autonomy. This would imply some degree of regional responsibility that permits Kurds to run many of their own local affairs obviously excluding major national issues such as defense, currency, overall security, national economic policy, and foreign affairs.

Second, the onus of responsibility for a solution lies with the Turkish state rather than with the Kurds as people. In Turkey the conflict is not, as it often is in other countries, between two mobilized and competing communities; here it is between a weak community attempting to mobilize and the state. The state is fundamentally responsible for the creation of the problem by its fateful decision in the 1920s to create a nation-state defined as consisting of Turks alone, compounded by several decades of enforced assimilation of Kurdsa decision that can no longer be sustained, imposed, or implemented. Continuing attempts to impose such a solution without formal acknowledgment of the existence of the Kurds will only lead to continued and perhaps even increased bloodshed and will only strengthen the possibility that the Kurds will indeed eventually insist on total independence.
Furthermore, the state holds virtually all the cards: The Kurds themselves have almost nothing to concede in negotiations, for they have nothing that the state wants except retreat from their demands. If a compromise is to be
reached, the most the Kurds can offer is eventual peace, loyalty, and nonviolence.
Even these Kurdish "concessions" will still entail demands upon the state that the state does not welcome, but they can come in the context of a retreat from some of the initially maximalist demands of the PKK for separatism and the establishment of a pan-Kurdish state.

Third, a critical part of the problem lies in the need to reformulate the very concept of the Turkish state as perceived by its citizens. Is the state a monolithic instrument, charged with the mission of forging a nation,
preserving the state as it is known, and retaining a paternalistic hold over its development? Or is the state the instrument of its combined citizenry to attain the goals they seek? The former, statist concept, which emerges from
nation-building concepts of an earlier era, was indeed relevant to Turkey in the Atatürkist period, when entirely new concepts were required to replace those of the collapsed imperial, multinational, and authoritarian Ottoman
Empire. But today, it has become evident to all that the state has partially failed in its mission to homogenize the population: After more than seventy years, while some groups have been successfully integrated, the Kurdish
question has not disappeared and indeed is growing. Thus, until the vision changes in which the state is no longer the master but the servant of the peopleit is unlikely that Turkey will be able to progress toward a solution to the Kurdish problem. This transformation of the role of the state does not pose a threat to the sovereignty of the state per se,but rather only to the role of the state over all of its citizensTurk, Kurd, and others. The good news is that this transition is quite feasible for Turkey to manage, given its major progress toward democratization, liberalization, and the emergence of a strong civil society over the past decades. Other states facing such ethnic challenges are not so well off.

Fourth, there is a factor of time that cannot be ignored. Whatever military, gains or losses are taking place on the ground, Kurdish self-awareness is expanding and will not go away. Changing global conditions greater acceptance of nationalist movements in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union, the break-up of Yugoslavia, and any new political balances that might emerge in the Middle East following successful Israeli-PLO negotiations will increasingly make it difficult for Turkey to ignore its own domestic diversity and pluralism. Thus the Turkish state
does not have an indefinite amount of time to seek an equitable solution; the longer it takes to find resolution, the more radicalized the Kurds may become and the higher the cost of a settlement grows. The state deliberates over the issue as if time did not matter, but the clock is ticking, and certain realities are being created domestically and
internationally that are not fully under the state's control.
The Kurdish factor in Iraq, for example, is also developing rapidly; Iraq cannot go back to the status quo ante of the 1960s, when the Iraqi Kurds had few political demands. Eventually, Iraq must move in the direction of some kind of federal state if the Iraqi state is ever to stay together. As argued earlier, Turkey would be wise to have settled its own Kurdish problem to the satisfaction of its Kurds by that time; Iraqi Kurds possessing a fair degree of autonomy will otherwise be a destabilizing model to Turkey's Kurds.

Conversely, satisfied Turkish Kurds can have major influence upon northern Iraq, possibly making Turkey the
dominant free Kurdish voice in the regionthe largest and freest body of Kurds in the Middle East. Turkey's Kurds,
together with Turkey's own power, skills, and resources, can then become the leader and partner of all regional
Kurds on many issues. At that point, Diyarbakir becomes a huge potential entrepôt for regional trade and
communications, instead of an isolated city in a distant region near closed and militarized borders. If Turkey fails
to satisfy the cultural
aspirations of its own Kurds, it not only becomes permanent hostage to its own Kurds but also to events in the
Kurdish regions of Iraq, Iran, and Syriawhose own internal political situations are very repressive, unstable, and
doomed to face major upheaval. Nor can Ankara achieve its goals by pretending to ignore the Kurdish reality in
Iraq, especially because it may not be able to influence it in the long run. Turkey's choices would thus seem to be
clearbut that does not mean that the process of getting there is easy.

*Yes it is long but i think it is useful to approach such a complex problem.
Please let me know your thoughts after reading this*

SoSo
05-28-2009, 10:54 PM
Very interesting reading, and well thought out. But I still believe the Kurds of northern Iraq should have a country of their own.

Karaahmetoglu
05-29-2009, 12:23 AM
Please let me know your thoughts after reading thisOk, but before I start let me clear things up. I am a Georgian Turk, a minority and therefore I am not biased on this issue.


historically, conflict has periodically arisen between Turks and
Kurds.
Yes because of intervening third parties, that created strife between the two groups whom for centuries have lived under peace under the Seljuk & Ottoman Empires.



Major economic improvements and increased democratization in the southeast will help alleviate some symptoms of the crisisAlready done that now, it has opened the Pandora's box (pretty sure you know what that is), now in the Turkish Parliament sits a political party whom members have pictures taken with PKK members, who's direct link to PKK has been proven time after time. The South East region of Turkey compared to the rest of Turkey has been getting a lot of more money, to the extent that they are taking it out of other places such as the Eastern Black Sea region, but hey do you see the Turkish Georgians and Laz complaining? No! But look at the South East is swimming in pools of cash they are continuing this shameful acts.


Furthermore, the state holds virtually all the cards: The Kurds themselves have almost nothing to concede in negotiationsBull crap they could get off there lazy asses and stop doing shameful acts start working and catching up the the rest of Turkey. But hey when the Turkish government throws money at them (and advice of yours) why should they?


Even these Kurdish "concessions" will still entail demands upon the state that the state does not welcome, but they can come in the context of a retreat from some of the initially maximalist demands of the PKK for separatism and the establishment of a pan-Kurdish state.BTW we have met all there demands except for a seperate state and now look at this they still continue. We have given an ok for there laungauge to be spoken, there songs, there radio channels, there T.V stations, there festivals etc. What I am saying is Kurds are free to practice all there aspects of there culture in Turkey. I.E every minority in Turkey is like that, this is comming from one of those minorities (Georgian Turks, are free to do what ever aspects of there culture as well as all minorities in Turkey are).

Lets see how long this state lasts before they start a another inter tribal war, then within these tribes the clan wars, and within these clans the family wars, and finally the inter-family wars (the ones between brothers, common amoung Kurds in the South East).



Third, a critical part of the problem lies in the need to reformulate the very concept of the Turkish state as perceived by its citizens. Is the state a monolithic instrument, charged with the mission of forging a nation,
preserving the state as it is known, and retaining a paternalistic hold over its development? Or is the state the instrument of its combined citizenry to attain the goals they seek? The former, statist concept, which emerges from
nation-building concepts of an earlier era, was indeed relevant to Turkey in the Atatürkist periodRemember these policies put by Ataturk, is highly respect outside of Turkey except for a few areas, (i.e a close nieghbour), you will always hear people continously say, if all Islamic countries put Ataturks ideas into place, the world would be a much more peaceful place.


Fourth, there is a factor of time that cannot be ignored. Whatever military, gains or losses are taking place on the groundMilitary is making Exceptional gains every year BTW, seems like you live under a very big rock.



Changing global conditions greater acceptance of nationalist movements in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union, the break-up of Yugoslavia, and any new political balances that might emerge in the Middle East following successful Israeli-PLO negotiations will increasingly make it difficult for Turkey to ignore its own domestic diversity and pluralism. Thus the Turkish stateYes we would be more succesful against PKK if our certain neighbours of ours did not give unconditional support to a universially recognized terriost group.


BTW as a minority let me tell you of my freedoms I can speak write sing Georgian anywhere anytime I want. I could exercise any aspect of my Georgian culture in Turkey without the state saying anything, infact majority of times they will sponser these events (around hazel nut picking time in the Blacksea region lots of cultural fests are held, and various minorities from the Black Sea display there culture for eveyone to see). I have never been discrimnated in Turkey for being a Georgian Turk.

Kradder
05-29-2009, 12:24 PM
Very interesting reading, and well thought out. But I still believe the Kurds of northern Iraq should have a country of their own.

Well today Kurdistan in the north of Iraq is much more independent than a lot of states living under supranational laws. It is also much larger and stronger in terms of economy and military than a lot of already independent states. You can mostly compare it to Scotland under the UK body. However, I do not want to see it becoming indepedent for the the time being. A lot needs to be done yet before the step of independence.