Very low level military static line parachuting systems

[GETSOME]

Interesting site on ideas on how to improve and make military static-line safer,with videos ,enjoyp-)
http://www.combatreform.com/llparachute.htm

[Boina verde]

To sloe...that's why we run of the airplane. Lol

Interesting link, especially because you can see the different techniques. Thanks.

[flanker7]

American paras don't do the step anymore? I mean having one foot in front all the way to the door and sort of draging the other behind it so that you reach the door with the right foot to do a good exit

[TehSuig]

American paras don't do the step anymore? I mean having one foot in front all the way to the door and sort of draging the other behind it so that you reach the door with the right foot to do a good exit


It's taught at Airborne School but no one does it in the units. It's too slow and nearly impossible to do with a ruck strapped to your legs.

Jumping at 400 ft AGL = no thanks. It that thing doesn't open you have no time for a reserve.

[flanker7]

That's true. The ruck is a pain to even try to walk

[Boina verde]

If you have the time, check this video:

http://www.youtube.com/v/znc8PFJYHy0

Old stuff...memories.

[Solomin]

If my memory serves me correctly, didn't elements of the 75th Rangers drop from under 500 feet during Operation Urgent Fury (Grenada)? I don't believe there were any chute problems with the drop so I'm skeptical to believe the statistics on the website.

[Tikvah]

American paras don't do the step anymore? I mean having one foot in front all the way to the door and sort of draging the other behind it so that you reach the door with the right foot to do a good exit

That's the way it's done in the IDF, one foot in front until the door and then kick out.

[flanker7]

In an old magazine I read that UK paras had a low level static line chute that was able for as low as 76 metres. No reserve chute was used :-)

[Boina verde]

http://www.youtube.com/v/Of4E-2fSeWs

I find this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/pFSpNmjU84c

What was the chance of that happen?! Incredible!

[flanker7]

I saw once in a documentary a similar case of a UK para being draged by the plane, a C-130. In that case also all the statics were connected to a seperate parachute and he was cut loose. The seperate parachute deployed and he landed in a bandle with all the parachute bags of the paras that jumbed before him.

When we are briefed prior to a jump however, we are told that in case of being draged they will pull us back in using the retriever line. Or, in case that fails and we are consius(we indicate that by putting our palms on our helmet) we will be cut loose and we will manually deploy our reserve chute..... God, I hope that will not ever hapen!

[Dave76]

Interesting site on ideas on how to improve and make military static-line safer,with videos ,enjoyp-)
http://www.combatreform.com/llparachute.htm
While I'm certainly not knowledgable on the subject, I just wanted to inform you that you posted a link to one of Sparky's countless sites, so it should be at least taken with a grain of salt... ;)

[GETSOME]

While I'm certainly not knowledgable on the subject, I just wanted to inform you that you posted a link to one of Sparky's countless sites, so it should be at least taken with a grain of salt... ;)
Thanks for the heads-up,but an interesting link all the less.p-)

[GETSOME]

In an old magazine I read that UK paras had a low level static line chute that was able for as low as 76 metres. No reserve chute was used :-)
Isnt it still being tested?:oops:

[GETSOME]

If you have the time, check this video:

http://www.youtube.com/v/znc8PFJYHy0

Old stuff...memories.
What type of chute does the Portuguese paras use,is it steerable?

[Boina verde]

I saw once in a documentary a similar case of a UK para being draged by the plane, a C-130. In that case also all the statics were connected to a seperate parachute and he was cut loose. The seperate parachute deployed and he landed in a bandle with all the parachute bags of the paras that jumbed before him.

When we are briefed prior to a jump however, we are told that in case of being draged they will pull us back in using the retriever line. Or, in case that fails and we are consius(we indicate that by putting our palms on our helmet) we will be cut loose and we will manually deploy our reserve chute..... God, I hope that will not ever hapen!

A couple of years before I left the Army, a buddy of mine told me something like this happen in Tancos. The guy was conscious but he was recovered by the Air Force men on board. In fact one of the air force men had an injury because of that. I think that is just one of those weird accidents that happens very little but makes you always on your toes when you're jumping.

[Boina verde]

What type of chute does the Portuguese paras use,is it steerable?

In the old days it was used a CTP A2 (Portuguese made chute) teamed with the T10-R reserve chute. Today it’s the Aerazur 672-29P teamed with the Aerazur 511-F2 reserve chute.

http://www.paraquedistas.com.pt/55203/207_ARZ.pdf

By the way, this is the link of the Boina Verde Magazine:

http://revistaboinaverde.no.sapo.pt/

It have some interesting news about new chutes in the US and France.

By the way guess what the ETP is going to get to reduce the cost of the formation and training in the Paras:

http://www.para-cdo.be/1Para/trgcpara.htm

I don’t know why, but I just can’t keep smiling. Lucky bastards, I didn’t have anything like that (balloon).

[GETSOME]

Wow interesting,Thailand and Belgium i think use balloons.
Hey i should apply for the job,i have training and experience with helium balloons.p-)
These types http://www.aerophile.com/
This one http://www.aerophile.com/en/43/87/aero30-n27-in-madeira-portugal

[GETSOME]

How do i enlarge to read the magazine.http://revistaboinaverde.no.sapo.pt/

[Boina verde]

Wow interesting,Thailand and Belgium i think use balloons.
Hey i should apply for the job,i have training and experience with helium balloons.p-)
These types http://www.aerophile.com/
This one http://www.aerophile.com/en/43/87/aero30-n27-in-madeira-portugal

well they have already a balloon in Tancos with a NCO and a Corporal as a permanent team:


http://www.boinas-verdes.com/etp2008/slides/DSC06829.html

http://www.boinas-verdes.com/etp2009/slides/Dia_da_ETP_2009%20-%200812.html

[Boina verde]

How do i enlarge to read the magazine.http://revistaboinaverde.no.sapo.pt/

You can't, that's the objective, to tease you enough to make you buy the magazine! Lol

[retrobob]

Wow interesting,Thailand and Belgium i think use balloons.
Hey i should apply for the job,i have training and experience with helium balloons.p-)
These types http://www.aerophile.com/
This one http://www.aerophile.com/en/43/87/aero30-n27-in-madeira-portugal
RTA Special Warfare Centre at Lopburi sent about 6 officers and SNCO's to RAF Hullavington(Balloon Flight) and RAF Brize Norton(No. 1 PTS) in 79-80.The RTA balloon is British, the winch Belgian and permanently based in it's own hangar at Camp Pawai, Lopburi.
One of the first to jump the balloon in Thailand was HRH Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn,despatched by an RAF PJI.The balloon currently in use is said to have been paid for directly by HRH The Crown Prince.
A few years ago, in an embarrassing accident that made the national news, the RTA balloon was torn out of the hands of it's handlers by a freak gust of high wind as it was being 'walked' out of it's hangar prior to being attached to cable/gondola.Luckily there were no injuries and the balloon was found some miles away.
Another military user of balloon (for parachute training) is the ROK Army.

[GETSOME]

http://thaiartdecor.velocall.com/image/pd1034246743_2.jpg (http://thaiartdecor.velocall.com/image/pd1034246743_0.jpg)
Thai army para balloon qualification wings.

[GETSOME]

You can't, that's the objective, to tease you enough to make you buy the magazine! Lol
Is only paras allowed to buy the magazine?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I find this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/pFSpNmjU84c

What was the chance of that happen?! Incredible!

That's a very serious brown trousers moment for all concerned.

I think the DZ is Weston on the Green in the UK and the A/C looks to be a Skyvan (tailgate exit).

I couldn't see the jumper putting his hands on his helmet so it must have been one hell of a judgement call for the J/M to cut the static line!

[Albatross]

nothing from combatretard.com should ever be taken seriously.

[edi213009]

[/EMBED]http://www.youtube.com/v/HLOQ0ra6fr0

[Boina verde]

Is only paras allowed to buy the magazine?

No, you can buy it:

http://www.paraquedistas.com.pt/60803/148157.html?*session*id*key*=*session*id*val*

It's a very nice magazine.

[Boina verde]

[QUOTE=edi213009;4168380]http://www.youtube.com/v/HLOQ0ra6fr0

[Boina verde]

RTA Special Warfare Centre at Lopburi sent about 6 officers and SNCO's to RAF Hullavington(Balloon Flight) and RAF Brize Norton(No. 1 PTS) in 79-80.The RTA balloon is British, the winch Belgian and permanently based in it's own hangar at Camp Pawai, Lopburi.
One of the first to jump the balloon in Thailand was HRH Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn,despatched by an RAF PJI.The balloon currently in use is said to have been paid for directly by HRH The Crown Prince.
A few years ago, in an embarrassing accident that made the national news, the RTA balloon was torn out of the hands of it's handlers by a freak gust of high wind as it was being 'walked' out of it's hangar prior to being attached to cable/gondola.Luckily there were no injuries and the balloon was found some miles away.
Another military user of balloon (for parachute training) is the ROK Army.

I didn’t' knew that, do you have any pics?
Thanks!

[BrianT]

That's a very serious brown trousers moment for all concerned.

I think the DZ is Weston on the Green in the UK and the A/C looks to be a Skyvan (tailgate exit).

I couldn't see the jumper putting his hands on his helmet so it must have been one hell of a judgement call for the J/M to cut the static line!
It kind of looks like they attached a chute to his static line. Very interesting system and jump technique.

[retrobob]

It kind of looks like they attached a chute to his static line. Very interesting system and jump technique.

HUPRA Mk-3, HUPRA-Hung Up Parachutist Release Assembly

www.airborne-sys.com/

[a_very_ex_STAB]

HUPRA Mk-3, HUPRA-Hung Up Parachutist Release Assembly

www.airborne-sys.com/ (http://www.airborne-sys.com/)

Interesting. I never heard of that. I'm a civvie skydiver but I never did any military parachuting.

[retrobob]

Interesting. I never heard of that. I'm a civvie skydiver but I never did any military parachuting.

Over the years I've seen some real 'rough 'n ready' versions of HUPRA which have been locally fabricated by riggers using old 'soon to be surveyed' T-10 or similar 'chutes.I believe that Airborne-sys Mk-3 HUPRA is one of the few actually designed and made for that purpose.