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Mu-Meson
06-01-2009, 02:56 PM
I guess Mecca makes exceptions for Non-Muslim relatives of the US President. They don't do it for anyone else.
Obama's Grandma To Perform Haj - Report
By Muin Abdul Majid
DUBAI, April 27 (Bernama) -- United States (US) President Barack Obama's grandmother has accepted an invitation from United Arab Emirates (UAE) property tycoon Dr Sulaiman Al Fahim to perform the haj this year, according to a report.http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsgeneral.php?id=407160
I guess the Associated Press was wrong, back before the election when people were saying Obama was a muslim, when Obama's grandma said she was a Christian.
Kenyan Grandmother
Warns Against 'Untruths'
by Riccardo Gangale, AP
Barack Obama's Kenyan grandmother is upset by what she sees as dirty campaign tricks, including the distribution of a photo showing her grandson in a turban and robe. "Bringing such pictures that are trying to imply that not only is he a foreigner, he is a Muslim, is wrong, because that is not what he is," Sarah Hussein Obama, 86, said Wednesday
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"In the world of today, children have different religions from their parents," she said. She, too, is a Christian.
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Copyright 2008 The Associated Press.
SirGene
06-01-2009, 03:05 PM
A Christian, a Jew and Barack Obama are in a rowboat in the middle of the ocean. Barack Obama says, “This joke isn’t going to work because there’s no Muslim in this boat.”
khukuri
06-01-2009, 03:46 PM
yawn.................
Soldat_Américain
06-01-2009, 03:47 PM
Another Obama thread...I thought we addressed this crap
Laworkerbee
06-01-2009, 03:48 PM
I guess Mecca makes exceptions for Non-Muslim relatives of the US President. They don't do it for anyone else.
Christians are not allowed in Mecca, period. Something is wrong with this story. I mean for Christs sake there are Muslim only roads leading to Mecca with warning signs everywhere; Sulaiman Al Fahim has no right nor authority to invite her.
Euroamerican
06-01-2009, 04:18 PM
Yep. Either he hasn't figured out that she is not a Muslim or else she was lying when she said she is a Christian.
I think that the penalty for entry into Mecca if you are a Muslim is kind of, um, severe.
Bringer of Greater Things
06-01-2009, 05:03 PM
This PROVES that Obama is a secret Muslim!
Euroamerican
06-01-2009, 05:11 PM
^--- ha ha.
That's the inference, but I don't personally believe it is so. It lends credence to the idea that he's got more exposure to the religion as a youth (heck, I can't remember which grandma was the one that raised him, or which family members were the parental authorities during his time in Southeast Asia) than some people might be comfortable with. But.... he says he is a Christian and he goes to Christian churches. Can't he leave the Muslim faith, even if he ever was one? (I know, loaded question)
But anyway.... Still think she can't go to Mecca, from what I understand about the club membership that you must have before you can get in the door.
LineDoggie
06-01-2009, 05:26 PM
"I found out that she had not been to the haj and that she very much wants to go."
Sort of Implies that Obamas Paternal Grandmother is a Muslim if this man can be believed. Everyone i know, knows that only Muslims are allowed into Mecca. I'm sure She would as well.
In the Bigger Picture, so what?
Other than if the campaign deliberately lied, who really cares?
Hollis
06-01-2009, 05:32 PM
There is also curiosity....... If was invited and could make the trip, I would go.
AgentX
06-01-2009, 05:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ClrD_OOCaoI
khukuri
06-01-2009, 05:36 PM
There is also curiosity....... If was invited and could make the trip, I would go.
Agree, If someone invited me to any grandiose religious temple, building or what have you I sure as hell would go.
This thread is stupid as the point of the thread is: Obamas granny might be a muslim...
seraosha
06-01-2009, 05:39 PM
There is also curiosity....... If was invited and could make the trip, I would go.
I'd be there...looks like nothing else on Earth, much less the religious significance...but the whole forbidden under pain of death thing is a deterrent. But I'd expect a quick conversion or an admittance that she's been Muslim all along.
tuffaznalz
06-01-2009, 05:52 PM
With over a million pilgrims, how do they determine Muslims from others?
Hollis
06-01-2009, 05:54 PM
I'd be there...looks like nothing else on Earth, much less the religious significance...but the whole forbidden under pain of death thing is a deterrent. But I'd expect a quick conversion or an admittance that she's been Muslim all along.
Really depends, at what point in Mecca is it closed to non-Muslims.
Some of the biggest hardliners on Islamic doctrine are non-Muslims. It is their call not mine on who is allowed in or prohibited.
Laworkerbee
06-01-2009, 06:38 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/laworkerbee/Tourist_Traps-Mecca.jpgp-)
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