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Chulo
06-02-2009, 10:40 PM
Interesting Russian look on present US issues

American capitalism gone with a whimper
27.04.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American descent into Marxism is happening with breath-taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well-prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.

Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.

So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homo******ity (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homo******ity is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

Stanislav Mishin

The article has been reprinted with the kind permission from the author and originally appears on his blog, Mat Rodina

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-1/

NineLine
06-02-2009, 10:43 PM
Sweet article dude

Alpheus
06-02-2009, 10:44 PM
You know you're doing something wrong when Pravda writes your obituary.

Gleipnir
06-02-2009, 10:45 PM
Is this guy a teenager?

Kilgor
06-02-2009, 10:46 PM
You know you're doing something wrong when Pravda writes your obituary.

Pravda, the most commonly smoked cigarette in the world.

The Capitalist world survived 29 and it will survive this.

BloodyTalon
06-02-2009, 10:48 PM
Pravda? Seriously?

Cool story, bro.

Holmes85
06-02-2009, 10:54 PM
An obituary for Capitalism, you've got to be kidding me.:lol: In my opinion, they should be preparing the obituary for Communism in China along with the birth of Capitalism.

Alpheus
06-02-2009, 10:54 PM
Jeez you guys, I was kidding.

budgie
06-03-2009, 12:05 AM
Here we go with another stab at 'communism'. Free markets are all well and good but look at what happens when they run off the rails. Americans will have to accept, sooner or later like every other civilised country that there has to be at least some government control over the economy. There always has been. Now pure capitalists mifght say the less the better, but at what point does too much become actual Marxism? I'd say America is nowhere near that and is not even heading in that direction. There are many tangents in economics, not a striclt left-right sliding scale.

deagle
06-03-2009, 12:41 AM
exploitation and mismanagement within capitalism got us into this economic mess.

still rather be capitalist than a commie though !

ThatHistoryDude
06-03-2009, 01:55 AM
Article may have had more creadibility but the first time the author said this:


But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

He pretty well lost me.

Now I am no 20th century historian so correct me if I am wrong. Other than 1941-1945 didn't the west spend most of it's time trying to first stop the Bolesheviks from consolidating their power in Russia during the Civil war. Then after World War 2 didn't the Western powers spend most their time confronting the Soviet Union.

I must have missed that period when Wall Street was collaborating with the Politburo.

Ordie
06-03-2009, 02:04 AM
American capitalism is alive and well in the streets of LA. woot

Soon taco trucks be at the Kremiln Gates comrades!!!!

http://laeastside.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/03taco01_650-1.jpg

Akril
06-03-2009, 02:05 AM
Now I am no 20th century historian so correct me if I am wrong. Other than 1941-1945 didn't the west spend most of it's time trying to first stop the Bolesheviks from consolidating their power in Russia during the Civil war. Then after World War 2 didn't the Western powers spend most their time confronting the Soviet Union.

I must have missed that period when Wall Street was collaborating with the Politburo.

How do you suppose "The West" fight with commies?
By giving the money in the hands of true Marxists! p-)

AlexMartin2
06-03-2009, 02:15 AM
I must have missed that period when Wall Street was collaborating with the Politburo.

He probably meant that WS money helped Bolsheviks to get power. There are some opinions among historians, that Lenin was German agent, and all mighty Ocrober revolution was sponsored by Germany.
But I never heard about American involvment :)

BTW, I see some people started to look like angry ox when they see Pravda.ru as red rag, instead of carefully read the material.

But, isn't this guy have a point? Why government official (like president) have right to sack CEO of privately owned company? I dont know about US laws at all, maybe someone can explain this?

eskachig
06-03-2009, 02:47 AM
But, isn't this guy have a point? Why government official (like president) have right to sack CEO of privately owned company? I dont know about US laws at all, maybe someone can explain this?The free market isn't really involved here - according to its rules GM should just collapse as the terribly run business it is, but the result will be so damaging as to destabilize the already weak US economy. So the Federal government is helping out, and is investing around 50 billion dollars trying to keep the company running through the bankruptcy problem. That kind of cash comes with strings attached, and the feds are forcing a restructuring.

The company isn't really privately owned anymore, as the Federal government now owns 66% of the equity. Even though they're technically a non-voting investor, they have a lot of power over the board.

Holmes85
06-03-2009, 02:50 AM
My guess is that the money loaned out to GM and other car companies had strings attached to it, which enabled the government some level of control over these corporations.

or what eskachig just said.

ThatHistoryDude
06-03-2009, 02:54 AM
He probably meant that WS money helped Bolsheviks to get power. There are some opinions among historians, that Lenin was German agent, and all mighty Ocrober revolution was sponsored by Germany.
But I never heard about American involvment :)

Oh my you mean people are still peddling that whole Jewish bankers financed the October revolution in order to attack Christianity and form a one world government thing? I thought that lost any shred of credibility when the Nazis peddled it.


But, isn't this guy have a point? Why government official (like president) have right to sack CEO of privately owned company? I dont know about US laws at all, maybe someone can explain this?

He raises some interesting points in the article but loses a lot when he goes off on the West for financing Communism as well as many other bombastic statements. Like attacking America's churches for supporting Obama when other than Catholics most routine church goers voted in a majority for McCain. Of course maybe I was offended because my beloved Orthodox church of America is apparently scandalously liberal.

AlexMartin2
06-03-2009, 03:35 AM
Oh my you mean people are still peddling that whole Jewish bankers financed the October revolution in order to attack Christianity and form a one world government thing? I thought that lost any shred of credibility when the Nazis peddled it.

Some people, yes. There are always people who thinks that all their problems is not their fault, but someone's else. They blame Jews, Capitalists/Communists, etc.



He raises some interesting points in the article but loses a lot when he goes off on the West for financing Communism as well as many other bombastic statements. Like attacking America's churches for supporting Obama when other than Catholics most routine church goers voted in a majority for McCain. Of course maybe I was offended because my beloved Orthodox church of America is apparently scandalously liberal.

Well, I never read Pravda.ru, so I dont know for sure, but such article is obviously targeted to the west and such authors wanted to get free publicity.
In Russia they rarely get much attention, because there a hundreds or thousands of people who write crappy articles for internet sites. Almost all of them simply boring :)

chauncy republicans
06-03-2009, 10:56 AM
First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Quoted for truth.

Chulo
06-03-2009, 11:53 AM
My guess is that the money loaned out to GM and other car companies had strings attached to it, which enabled the government some level of control over these corporations.

or what eskachig just said.
that is why they were "Too big to fail" before they got government money, then after the government financed them and owns them, they are allowed to fail (bankruptcy)

Connaught Ranger
06-03-2009, 01:01 PM
Pravda spreading more ink stains across asses in Russia than any other daily.

Ought Six
06-03-2009, 05:59 PM
So the situation we had in late 2008 was capitalism? Free markets and all that? Seriously ???

BloodyTalon
06-03-2009, 06:18 PM
Just to remind everyone what exactly passes as newsworthy at Pravda, here's another example of their...erm..."journalism."
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/89728-0


American radio icon Don Imus disgraced, fired after threat to reveal 9/11 secrets

In a clear sign of its intent to reign in dissident American media personalities, and their growing influence in American culture, US War Leaders this past week launched an unprecedented attack upon one of their most politically 'connected', and legendary, radio hosts named Don Imus after his threats to release information relating to the September 11, 2001 attacks upon that country.

According to European reports of the events surrounding Don Imus that have gripped the United States this past week, it was during an interview with another American media personality, Tim Russert, who is the host of a television programme frequently used by US War Leaders, wherein while decrying the state of care being given to American War wounded stated, "So those bastards want to keep these boys [in reference to US Soldiers] secret? Let's see how they like it if I start talking about their [in reference to US War Leaders] secrets, starting with 9/11."

Unable to attack such a powerful media figure as Don Imus, directly, the US War Leaders, and as we have seen many times before, resorted to a massive media attack against him using as the reason a racial slur against a US woman's basketball team, but which has been pointed out by other media outlets was not by any means a rare occurrence for the legendary radio icon to make.

But, to the US War Leaders, Don Imus represented the most serious threat, to date, of the growing assault against them by America's media personalities threatening to expose the truths behind the events of September 11, 2001 and the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars; and to such an extent that another American media personality, Rosie O'Donnell, has expressed concern that US Military Leaders could actually imprison Mr. Imus.

From our past research of the tactics used against those threatening America's War Leaders, the likelihood of imprisonment for Don Imus would only occur should he persist in his threats to undermine their authority, and which appears, at this time, unlikely after the public disgrace he has had to endure.

It is expected, also, that the US War Leaders actions against Don Imus will have a further chilling affect upon other American media personalities questioning their authority, such as the popular US movie actor, Charlie Sheen, and who was one of the first to question the events of September 11, 2001, and as we can read as reported by New Zealand Herald News Service in their article titled "Charlie Sheen may voice 9/11 documentary", and which says:

"US actor Charlie Sheen is reportedly in talks to narrate an internet documentary that suggests elements of the US government were behind the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre.

Sheen's representatives say he was involved in the production of a new version of Loose Change, a 90-minute conspiracy theory film that has been seen by more than 10 million internet viewers."

Apparently lost upon America's media personalities is that a government being investigated by the International Red Cross for the torture of an Iranian Diplomat by whipping with steel cables on his feet; a government that would have its soldiers imprison in an Ethiopian torture jail a Swedish teenage girl; a government that would even contemplate the release of one of the World's most wanted terrorists, Posada Carriles; does not hesitate, for even a second, to crush any, and all, opposition to it.

To the American people themselves their remains no evidence that they know, much less care, about the dire state of their once Free Nation.

eskachig
06-03-2009, 06:45 PM
that is why they were "Too big to fail" before they got government money, then after the government financed them and owns them, they are allowed to fail (bankruptcy)Not all bankruptcies are created equal - GM will survive and thousands of people will keep their jobs.

Chulo
06-04-2009, 12:29 AM
Not all bankruptcies are created equal - GM will survive and thousands of people will keep their jobs.
sure.. after the government has majority share, UAW given their due and the government now controlling what type of car and how they will do business.

In this case of "bankruptcy" it paid off the wrong people in the wrong order for the wrong reasons and does not look like any normal bankruptcy

sarhat
06-04-2009, 03:47 AM
American capitalism is alive and well in the streets of LA. woot

Soon taco trucks be at the Kremiln Gates comrades!!!!

http://laeastside.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/03taco01_650-1.jpg
no, thanks :)
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Mousepad
06-04-2009, 04:37 AM
no, thanks :)
http://l.foto.radikal.ru/0612/9756bf64d97c.jpg

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/mousepad_2008/Pedo-92.jpg


As for burrito van, really no, thanx we got our substitute from "Our Mexico" - tremendous "Shaverma", when this outlet pops out, somehow stray dogs disappear in the hood. :|