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VeetVooja
06-05-2009, 03:21 AM
Edit: messed up the title, as mentioned below the newspaper is spanish...

Caught this on nrc.nl (website of dutch newspaper).

A spanish newspaper published photo's censored by Berlusconi. The pictures depict scenes at the prime ministers villa in Sardine. These include a number of female guests, some topless at the pool. Apparently one of the girls, the fashionmodel Noemi Letizia, was still underage (17) when she was entertained at the villa.

His wife has already applied for divorce.

link to newspaper and photos (contain nudity)
http://www.elpais.com/global

How do other heads of state manage to keep a straight face at international meetings etc.?

CMNot
06-05-2009, 03:40 AM
Oh man, last thing I wanted to see with my coffee was that guys knob at full mast.

Connaught Ranger
06-05-2009, 03:49 AM
Great to see Berlusconi embarrassment shown outside of his Empire!

Fair play to the newspaper.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 03:50 AM
Someone can ID the weapon the guard is carrying? Just to know if he is a member of Italian police forces or just a military contractor.

It seems the resort of a Colombian Drug Lord many time seen in movies...

... every day that pass I am more and more ashamed of being Italian.

Scriptable
06-05-2009, 04:19 AM
How do other heads of state manage to keep a straight face at international meetings etc.?
They're all probably too wasted from the evening activities. Whenever there is a regional APEC meeting in Australia the brothels are always extra busy so I bet its the same everywhere. (But their busiest time ever was when the The World Council of Churches held their congress in Canberra in the 1990s.)

Macs.
06-05-2009, 04:20 AM
Someone can ID the weapon the guard is carrying? Just to know if he is a member of Italian police forces or just a military contractor.

G36. Most possible a G36k as it doesn't seem to be the full size model.


Italy needs to get rid of that scumbag. :|

kosse
06-05-2009, 04:25 AM
Geez. Give the old man a break. He is not doing anything illegal, is he?

gustav
06-05-2009, 04:38 AM
Babes, money, power... He looks more like Tony montana than the PM of a big European country. :-(

Why Italians can't vote him out?

Bitogno
06-05-2009, 05:16 AM
Geez. Give the old man a break. He is not doing anything illegal, is he?
Well it depends what he did with 17 years old Noemi Letizia.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 05:22 AM
Geez. Give the old man a break. He is not doing anything illegal, is he?

Most of those girls (some underage) and entertainers, guests are flown by public aircraft of the Italian State. Illegally months ago, now he put some laws that permits this abuse if a public person is with them on the fly.

Rember that in Italy legal not always equal to moral, or acceptable by modern western democracy standard... most Berlusconi laws are nearly uncostitutional and tailored for him to avoid incarceration (see the lawyer Mills conviction for corruption).

The Private Villa was also "fortified" with public money.

I stop here... Berlusconi story is too vast to summarize. I was a right wing (still I am, in a sort) supporter (not for him, but for his allies). But I am also curious, inquisitive... thanks to internet, books I learned a lot of things that destroyed my world.

Please people, don't judge all of Italians bad. Many of them are impotent victims of a semi-feudal society based on connections, corruption and general hopelessness of a satisfying professional career.

We must bow to the powerful for the greates dreams: a public job. Because our mostly small businesses economy destroys the life, the wages and the possibilities of the private empoyees for the benefit of a parasitical class of empoyers (artisans, professional, small industrial) that is the majority of our ruling class. (True gems in the profession and in the business, of course, exists... but those enlightened enterpreneurs are few).

I still hope. I still believe for a better future of my country and my brothers and sisters.


Babes, money, power... He looks more like Tony montana than the PM of a big European country. :-(

Why Italians can't vote him out?

He has developed a network of connections that dispense favors, public empoyment, money to a vast stratus of society.

Plus, the majority of working class people who vote him are uneducated and watch only italian language media that are controlled by him.

Plus... the opposition is divided, often criminally complacent.

We need more education for our people. More access to foreign, unbiased, source of news.

I am still amazed of the quality of some programs of BBC, investigative journalism and son on.

Here we have soccer, Great Brother and other stupid reality that drugs the minds of many.

PeterRJG
06-05-2009, 05:22 AM
Edit: messed up the title, as mentioned below the newspaper is spanish...

Caught this on nrc.nl (website of dutch newspaper).

A spanish newspaper published photo's censored by Berlusconi. The pictures depict scenes at the prime ministers villa in Sardine. These include a number of female guests, some topless at the pool. Apparently one of the girls, the fashionmodel Noemi Letizia, was still underage (17) when she was entertained at the villa.

His wife has already applied for divorce.

link to newspaper and photos (contain nudity)
http://www.elpais.com/global

How do other heads of state manage to keep a straight face at international meetings etc.?

Under age for what? Age of consent in Italy is 14.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 05:31 AM
Under age for what? Age of consent in Italy is 14.

So a 73 year old First Minister of a Country can have extra-marital affairs with 14+ girls, promising political or TV careers while contemporary lying, furnishing different versions of the story publicly?

Well... are you an Italian Berluscojones? I just need to update my ignore list. p-)

kosse
06-05-2009, 05:47 AM
So a 73 year old First Minister of a Country can have extra-marital affairs with 14+ girls, promising political or TV careers while contemporary lying, furnishing different versions of the story publicly?

Well... are you an Italian Berluscojones? I just need to update my ignore list. p-)

I think the age of consent in Italy is 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence over the other. So banging a 17-year-old is perfectly legal for mr. Berlusconi. Why should 73-year-old be forbidden to enjoy the pleasures of life? Law should be same for everyone.

If you ask me people who are complaining are all propably some ultra-conservative, catholic dolts.

CMNot
06-05-2009, 05:49 AM
Berlusconi is crooked as ****, I hope his time is running as short as that for my own unelected PM.

vedenant
06-05-2009, 05:59 AM
Geez. Give the old man a break. He is not doing anything illegal, is he?

Absolutely, he has gotta be The Coolest Politician for ages, kinda like Bill Clinton, except with real money and good looking babes! woot

Strongie
06-05-2009, 06:00 AM
Berlusconi is needed in Europe, he says what he thinks and upsets all the political correct politicians that compete in displaying moral excellence. He is a breath of fresh air in a Europe that's afraid of everything.

PeterRJG
06-05-2009, 06:00 AM
So a 73 year old First Minister of a Country can have extra-marital affairs with 14+ girls, promising political or TV careers while contemporary lying, furnishing different versions of the story publicly?

Well... are you an Italian Berluscojones? I just need to update my ignore list. p-)

You put me on ignore because I stated a fact about the Italian age of consent? Go ahead then, you're obviously a narrow-minded little tool.

kosse
06-05-2009, 06:01 AM
Absolutely, he has gotta be The Coolest Politician for ages, kinda like Bill Clinton, except with real money and good looking babes! woot

True. I love the scandals he causes. Catholic conservatives must be seething with rage :lol:

Macs.
06-05-2009, 06:06 AM
Berlusconi is needed in Europe, he says what he thinks and upsets all the political correct politicians that compete in displaying moral excellence. He is a breath of fresh air in a Europe that's afraid of everything.

Everything your write is pure class A bull****.

Congratulations, that's quite a achievement.


Berlusconi is nothing more than a criminal.

zema_06
06-05-2009, 06:06 AM
Why Italians can't vote him out?

because the others are even worse, i mean the opposition (completely without ideas and continues to talk about comunism)...i'm the first to say that we should get rid of him, but on the other hand is there someone who can replace him?

in europe he's badly needed as he's the one which has the best relationship with russia and turkey...

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 06:15 AM
You put me on ignore because I stated a fact about the Italian age of consent? Go ahead then, you're obviously a narrow-minded little tool.

I asked you before... because Berluscojones are the narrow-mindend little tool, you are not in my ignore list... for the moment :hug:

You are right in your form. But, again, we are not speaking of a random dirty old man that can do whatever he want. We are speaking of a Prime Minister that do those thing... while instructing us on chatolic values like euthanasia and other things...

Then... the same Prime Minister LIES publicly several times about the relation.

Again, a public figure need some moral standard or...at least, coherency and transparency.

As far concerns me...he can bang whatever 14 old he can... I ask only that he pays with his money those prostitutes/concubines... that's all.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 06:18 AM
because the others are even worse, i mean the opposition (completely without ideas and continues to talk about comunism)...i'm the first to say that we should get rid of him, but on the other hand is there someone who can replace him?

Opposition is disorganized and confused, but less dangerous, democratically speaking.




in europe he's badly needed as he's the one which has the best relationship with russia and turkey...

:roll:

Relationship between STATES are done via institutional channels, not between crooks that befriends head of states in luxury villas full of underage (de facto)prostitutes.

PeterRJG
06-05-2009, 06:22 AM
I asked you before... because Berluscojones are the narrow-mindend little tool, you are not in my ignore list... for the moment :hug:


I don't know about that. Getting laid by a 17 year old when you're 73 hardly qualifies one as narrow-minded. More power to the geezer actually. Half his luck.


You are right in your form. But, again, we are not speaking of a random dirty old man that can do whatever he want. We are speaking of a Prime Minister that do those thing... while instructing us on chatolic values like euthanasia and other things...


He's a politician. Being a hypocrite comes with the territory. Especially in Berlusconi's case as he seems to operate on a populist platform. Say whatever pleases the most people.



Then... the same Prime Minister LIES publicly several times about the relation.

Again, a public figure need some moral standard or...at least, coherency and transparency.

As far concerns me...he can bang whatever 14 old he can... I ask only that he pays with his money those prostitutes/concubines... that's all.

No arguments with most of that.

kosse
06-05-2009, 06:25 AM
Relationship between STATES are done via institutional channels, not between crooks that befriends head of states in luxury villas full of underage (de facto)prostitutes.Wow. You are naive. Interpersonal relationships play a great part in relations between states.

zema_06
06-05-2009, 06:29 AM
Opposition is disorganized and confused, but less dangerous, democratically speaking.

i hope you have not forgotten the last left wing government, it was in office 2 years, 2 years too long, it was a disgrace and i'm thankfull that it ended. i don't linke him but i would vote for his party another 100 times...

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 06:32 AM
I don't know about that. Getting laid by a 17 year old when you're 73 hardly qualifies one as narrow-minded. More power to the geezer actually. Half his luck.


My friend, I understand all of your points and I am glad you understood my last.

A little precisation. Berluscojones is a term that I use for the Berlusconi's fans (or best... servitors, prostitutes and guard dogs).

Berlusconi sound like Berluscoglioni. Coglioni is italian for cojones/balls that applied to a person mean "he is a moron".

Those are the narrow minded that I am glad to ignore... not you, a foreigner, that have ideas different than me, but worth to debate. p-)


i hope you have not forgotten the last left wing government, it was in office 2 years, 2 years too long, it was a disgrace and i'm thankfull that it ended. i don't linke him but i would vote for his party another 100 times...

In 2 years you cannot revert years of disgrace inherithed from Berlusconi 5 years government. A little precisation... you speak bad of the left gov and Prodi, but you say that you will vote 100 times the party? I don't understand.

BTW... I don't like the current left wing movements and the Democratic Party

Strongie
06-05-2009, 06:35 AM
Everything your write is pure class A bull****.

Congratulations, that's quite a achievement.


Berlusconi is nothing more than a criminal.

Did his concentration camp remark in the European parliament upset you as a German? I caused quite a stir, I know. It's hard to get that rubbed in you face constantly isn't it?

Criminal? How so? He happens to be filthy rich whilst being a politician so he doesn't have to put on a fasade like other politicians do in order to secure financial and media support.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 06:42 AM
Did his concentration camp remark in the European parliament upset you as a German? I caused quite a stir, I know. It's hard to get that rubbed in you face constantly isn't it?

Criminal? How so? He happens to be filthy rich whilst being a politician so he doesn't have to put on a fasade like other politicians do in order to secure financial and media support.

From the '80s to the 1994 most of is initial fortune (hundred of millions of euros in today term) cannot be traced were they came... (except for the fact that Mr. Mangano, a Mafia killer and torturer, condemned in 1st grade for at least 3 homicide and the lead Mafia man for money recycling in the north... was also BERLUSCONI's STABLE MAN.

We are not speaking, my friend, of a Bill Gates... a Warren Buffet or whatever. We are speaking of a very problematic history. We are speaking of about 15 LAWS that PREVENTED Berlusconi being convicted.

Remember my friend, because the story is long and complex and very few in Italy knows because there is censorship: Berlusconi is not a Gates or a Buffet.

Wonsild
06-05-2009, 06:46 AM
Berlusconi is the man! Every man must have his "monica lewinski" once in a while...

Macs.
06-05-2009, 07:05 AM
Did his concentration camp remark in the European parliament upset you as a German? I caused quite a stir, I know. It's hard to get that rubbed in you face constantly isn't it?

Criminal? How so? He happens to be filthy rich whilst being a politician so he doesn't have to put on a fasade like other politicians do in order to secure financial and media support.

That little movie "scandal" didn't bother me one bit.

If you study the history of Berlusconi and what he did in the last few years/decade you can only come to one conclusion: He is a criminal. This has not so much to do with his politics on the whole, but how he got into the place where he is now and how he used his powers. This man has dirt on his hands, and he is not afraid to use the law as he pleases.

You have to be very ignorant not to see this. Or you simply don't know anything about him.

He isn't good for Italy, one of the most important country/economy in the EU.

Strongie
06-05-2009, 07:08 AM
From the '80s to the 1994 most of is initial fortune (hundred of millions of euros in today term) cannot be traced were they came... (except for the fact that Mr. Mangano, a Mafia killer and torturer, condemned in 1st grade for at least 3 homicide and the lead Mafia man for money recycling in the north... was also BERLUSCONI's STABLE MAN.

We are not speaking, my friend, of a Bill Gates... a Warren Buffet or whatever. We are speaking of a very problematic history. We are speaking of about 15 LAWS that PREVENTED Berlusconi being convicted.

Remember my friend, because the story is long and complex and very few in Italy knows because there is censorship: Berlusconi is not a Gates or a Buffet.


I'm not saying he is clean or innocent of all charges, look at the Italian politicians during the post WW2 era and you'll find a constant mafia involvement at the highest levels. It's hardly unique for Berlusconi, it's the way the game of politics in Italy are played and it's a result of Italys social structures. I'm not an Italian and don't care what the internal structures look like, but from a Europen perspective I think that more politicians that aren't so afraid to speak their minds because they fear loosing the media support are needed. In that way it's refreshing!

Strongie
06-05-2009, 07:16 AM
That little movie "scandal" didn't bother me one bit.

If you study the history of Berlusconi and what he did in the last few years/decade you can only come to one conclusion: He is a criminal. This has not so much to do with his politics on the whole, but how he got into the place where he is now and how he used his powers. This man has dirt on his hands, and he is not afraid to use the law as he pleases.

You have to be very ignorant not to see this. Or you simply don't know anything about him.

He isn't good for Italy, one of the most important country/economy in the EU.

Of coure it bothered you.

In what way isn't he good for Italy? This sees to be only about his shady past and lack of "morals". I have yet to see some facts how he is mismanaging Italy.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 07:24 AM
Of coure it bothered you.

In what way isn't he good for Italy? This sees to be only about his shady past and lack of "morals". I have yet to see some facts how he is mismanaging Italy.

He want to weakens the Parliament. He want to change the constituion
He created a lot of personal laws for his immunity.

Parliament members in italy are not elected by the people, but nominated by the chief of parties. Thanks to a law that even the creator (Calderoli from Liga Nord called it a "porcata"... that mean bullsh!t).

We have no representatives, but small feudal lord nominated by the King.

Please, inform yourself better on my country... you can if you are not there! :)

mj78
06-05-2009, 07:38 AM
but from a Europen perspective I think that more politicians that aren't so afraid to speak their minds because they fear loosing the media support are needed.

Hahaha. He donīt fear loosing media support, because he own media in Italy and he donīt care about foreign media.

Kippari
06-05-2009, 07:46 AM
Nice! Shouldn't be long now before he (Silvio Julius Berlusconus Augustus) declares himself as the Emperor Silvio I, ruler of all Italy.:) Atleast he acts like one already.

Evolv5
06-05-2009, 07:47 AM
Wow, didn't expect to see a naked man.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 07:48 AM
Nice! Shouldn't be long now before he (Silvio Julius Berlusconus Augustus) declares himself as the Emperor Silvio I, ruler of all Italy.:) Atleast he acts like one already.

I am making new friend today!

~Berdan
06-05-2009, 07:58 AM
Good god,they pixelate his face,but not his hairy cawk.I was eating :(.

I thought Berlusconi owned every newspapers of Italy?

muttbutt
06-05-2009, 08:02 AM
Wow, didn't expect to see a naked man.This is Europe.....p-)

Eztyga
06-05-2009, 08:05 AM
Under age for what? Age of consent in Italy is 14.

Realllyyy ! ! ? ?

Lokos
06-05-2009, 08:08 AM
Easy, tiger. :)

L.

PeterRJG
06-05-2009, 08:09 AM
Realllyyy ! ! ? ?

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm
Ya rly. p-)

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 08:17 AM
Good god,they pixelate his face,but not his hairy cawk.I was eating :(.

I thought Berlusconi owned every newspapers of Italy?

Out of 7 major TV, he owns 3 and controls the 3 public except for a couple of TV Shows with people that were censured years ago by him.
In those days he occupies, without adversaries to contest him, great TV spaces (often a hour contiguos) in every major TV station (public or private).

Most of the printed press is at his feet. Except major newspaper "La Repubblica (http://www.repubblica.it)" that is alone in his quest on making him responding to 10 questions about his relationship with underage(d) Noemi and her foggy dad.

But... remember that in Italy newspaper receive more money (hundreds of millions of euros) from the government as a "paper reimbursement". That means that our press is not so "independent".

Macs.
06-05-2009, 09:37 AM
Of coure it bothered you.

When you mentioned it I had to google it first before I remebered this story. It was a brainfart directed at a idiot. (MEP Schulz who I don't like either)

It's nothing that shocks me or makes me lose sleep at night.


In what way isn't he good for Italy? This sees to be only about his shady past and lack of "morals". I have yet to see some facts how he is mismanaging Italy.

Then open your eyes and follow politics in Italy in the past years under his rule. This little ****-fest he is having is just the little yellow-press tip of the iceberg. It's just more interesting for the mainstream media when he ****s some 17 year old as the whole deal on how he ****s Italys politics and justic system.

CMNot
06-05-2009, 09:37 AM
I think that more politicians that aren't so afraid to speak their minds because they fear loosing the media support are needed. In that way it's refreshing!

You are taking the piss, right?

No politician would fear a media backlash if they owned the media.

mj78
06-05-2009, 09:40 AM
hahaha, our ex-PM (Topolanek) confirmed that he is that nice looking naked guy :)
I donīt care about it but he started embarrasing flame war thateuro socialists pushed this pics out :roll: (that looks cheap).
Politicians in Czech Republic are bunch of retarded schyzofrenic bastards.

Eztyga
06-05-2009, 09:50 AM
Easy, tiger. :)

L.

I, um, meant nothing by it, err...*slips passport back into draw furtively*

RSone
06-05-2009, 09:58 AM
I'm sorry for this, but: Only in Italy. seems appropriate.

Strongie
06-05-2009, 10:22 AM
He want to weakens the Parliament. He want to change the constituion
He created a lot of personal laws for his immunity.

Parliament members in italy are not elected by the people, but nominated by the chief of parties. Thanks to a law that even the creator (Calderoli from Liga Nord called it a "porcata"... that mean bullsh!t).

We have no representatives, but small feudal lord nominated by the King.

Please, inform yourself better on my country... you can if you are not there! :)


I don't see this as something bad, that's what you get in a representative democracy: You vote for someone who you think is the most capable in governing according to your wishes. If the people don't like his politics they will vote for someone else, wont they?

Strongie
06-05-2009, 10:27 AM
You are taking the piss, right?

No politician would fear a media backlash if they owned the media.

That's my point.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 10:28 AM
I don't see this as something bad, that's what you get in a representative democracy: You vote for someone who you think is the most capable in governing according to your wishes. If the people don't like his politics they will vote for someone else, wont they?

We are not a representative democracy because we cannot vote the person, the man/woman. We can only vote a symbol.

Then a groups of faithful prostitutes, servitors and guard dogs are nominated by the "owner" of the symbol: the party chief.

We have MPs, ministries that are/were aides of Berlusconi, our Carfagna Ministry was a calendar playmate and it seems that she gone "Lewinsky" on him before being nominated Ministry! Loyal Lawyers of Berlusconi are nominated in the Senate, in the Chambers, in the Government.

We cannot choose our candidate. We cannot see the face of our representative. You understand now how in deep **** we are? democratically speaking, I mean.

Strongie
06-05-2009, 10:45 AM
Sure, it's pretty much centralized, but is it per defenition bad or undemocratic? No, considering you still vote for the person who will gain these powers.

There are a lot of countries that are considered democratic but have some elements that are dubious.

LuKaZz
06-05-2009, 11:08 AM
I don't feel like judging anybody's private life, however the big problem here is that he uses his position as PM to further his own personal goals, he treats the country as his personal possession.

The very grave thing is that most of the laws that he passed were in his own personal interest(to protect him from the magistrates), and now it comes out that he has been using tax-payer funded airplanes(that belong to the Italian State not to him personally) to fly tv celebrities and prostitutes(the girls were given jewelry and spots in tv shows, they were therefore selling themselves) to his personal villa.

No head of state of any democratic Western nation could behave in the way he does, do you imagine the scandal if it came out that Obama had been flying his own "pleasure brigade" on Air Force One while giving expensive gifts and promising tv careers to scores of attractive young ladies?

The pictures do look like they had been taken at the villa of some Mexican or Colombian drug lord, swimming pools, hot naked girls, various debauchery and guards with automatic rifles, you just need some big piles of cocaine to complete the picture and then you'll make Al Pacino proud.

Ideologically I'm a Libertarian Conservative, however at the next elections I will be voting the Left(even though I really don't like their platform), we must get rid of Berlusconi and keep whatever dignity we may have left as a nation.

PanzerMaster
06-05-2009, 11:13 AM
I don't feel like judging anybody's private life, however the big problem here is that he uses his position as PM to further his own personal goals, he treats the country as his personal possession.

The very grave thing is that most of the laws that he passed were in his own personal interest(to protect him from the magistrates), and now it comes out that he has been using tax-payer funded airplanes(that belong to the Italian State not to him personally) to fly tv celebrities and prostitutes(the girls were given jewelry and spots in tv shows, they were therefore selling themselves) to his personal villa.

No head of state of any democratic Western nation could behave in the way he does, do you imagine the scandal if it came out that Obama had been flying his own "pleasure brigade" on Air Force One while giving expensive gifts and promising tv careers to scores of attractive young ladies?

The pictures do look like they had been taken at the villa of some Mexican or Colombian drug lord, swimming pools, hot naked girls, various debauchery and guards with automatic rifles, you just need some big piles of cocaine to complete the picture and then you'll make Al Pacino proud.

Ideologically I'm a Libertarian Conservative, however at the next elections I will be voting the Left(even though I really don't like their platform), we must get rid of Berlusconi and keep whatever dignity we may have left as a nation.

I think I am reading my self brother!

Actually I think IDV (Di Pietro) is the last true opposition against Berlusconi. The Democratic Party often helped him too much.

Let's see monday how the European election will sort out.

Fargin
06-05-2009, 12:13 PM
link to newspaper and photos (contain nudity)
Thanks for not writing (contains old fatty with a stiffy), I thought you meant it contained naked 17 year olds.

For Christ's sake!

Hyde
06-05-2009, 12:46 PM
The weener-pic is missing in the original link. Check this out :D

NSFW!
http://www.elpais.com/fotogaleria/imagenes/censuradas/Berlusconi/6527-1/elpgal/

(Navigate in upper right)

California Joe
06-05-2009, 12:46 PM
I hope that gross old f*cker is popping Viagra like candy so at least that overly made up little whore will have to earn her keep. Jesus, where are her parents.

Who does this asshole think he is? Brett Michaels?

Fade
06-05-2009, 12:49 PM
Was it really necessary of them to release pics of his frank n' beans?

Hyde
06-05-2009, 12:51 PM
I doubt its him, if it was him, the face would not have been blurred.

Kilgor
06-05-2009, 05:11 PM
Its good to be the King.

Derbedeu
06-05-2009, 05:44 PM
I doubt its him, if it was him, the face would not have been blurred.

Supposedly it's Topolanek, former Prime Minister of Czech Republic.

As for Berlusconi...:|. Italians deserve someone better then him as their Premier.

TheCivilian
06-05-2009, 05:56 PM
We are not a representative democracy because we cannot vote the person, the man/woman. We can only vote a symbol.

Then a groups of faithful prostitutes, servitors and guard dogs are nominated by the "owner" of the symbol: the party chief.

We have MPs, ministries that are/were aides of Berlusconi, our Carfagna Ministry was a calendar playmate and it seems that she gone "Lewinsky" on him before being nominated Ministry! Loyal Lawyers of Berlusconi are nominated in the Senate, in the Chambers, in the Government.

We cannot choose our candidate. We cannot see the face of our representative. You understand now how in deep **** we are? democratically speaking, I mean.

liberare VENETO! Buy guns. We might have to deal with the US Army Garrisons for this one p-)

tom03
06-05-2009, 07:16 PM
Actually I think IDV (Di Pietro) is the last true opposition against Berlusconi. The Democratic Party often helped him too much.




I think the same ;)

SiEMpre_Leal
06-05-2009, 07:20 PM
ill do all of them(girls)

Noble713
06-05-2009, 08:55 PM
Apparently one of the girls, the fashionmodel Noemi Letizia, was still underage (17) when she was entertained at the villa.

I did a Google Image search for this chick's name, and these two pics were on the first page of results:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2qb86zk.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2itokyb.jpg
Fvcking priceless!

Tyon
06-06-2009, 02:15 AM
So... Italy is the last country where it pays off to be the ruler. oO

Cornelius
06-06-2009, 05:13 PM
Bang! And his career it's lost...

d'artagnan
06-07-2009, 02:54 AM
lol. What's making topolanek so high?

kosse
06-07-2009, 03:06 AM
So... Italy is the last country where it pays off to be the ruler. oO
Russia also if you like little boys.

http://belowthebeltway.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/kiss_4.jpg

p-)

Strongie
06-07-2009, 04:30 AM
I did a Google Image search for this chick's name, and these two pics were on the first page of results:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2qb86zk.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2itokyb.jpg
Fvcking priceless!

So many possible comments, but to easy...rofl

Breakfast in Vegas
06-07-2009, 04:53 AM
I think the age of consent in Italy is 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence over the other. So banging a 17-year-old is perfectly legal for mr. Berlusconi. Why should 73-year-old be forbidden to enjoy the pleasures of life? Law should be same for everyone.

If you ask me people who are complaining are all propably some ultra-conservative, catholic dolts.Supposedly she agreed to be medically tested to confirm her virginity... so the old geezer was fndling at best.

As for catholic dolts, tell that to Italy...

PeterRJG
06-07-2009, 05:15 AM
Supposedly she agreed to be medically tested to confirm her virginity... so the old geezer was fndling at best.

As for catholic dolts, tell that to Italy...

Tell that to Italy...the country that elects **** stars to Govt. Being Catholic hasn't stopped anyone from a romp in the barn.

3rdMillhouse
06-07-2009, 03:36 PM
Supposedly she agreed to be medically tested to confirm her virginity... so the old geezer was fndling at best.

As for catholic dolts, tell that to Italy...

A hymen can be reconstructed nowadays via plastic surgery. That little whore has been ****ing her way up towards to the top of Italian's social food chain for quite some time now. Her latest ride is Silvio Berlusconi's dong. And come'on, a model, 17 yrs old and still virgin?!?!? Can anyone else scream "bull****"??

Zarak
06-07-2009, 04:14 PM
I hope that I can be half as awesome as Berlusconi one day.

Connaught Ranger
06-07-2009, 04:35 PM
I hope that I can be half as awful as Berlusconi one day.


Fixed it for yaa, no charge.:p

SoftLion
06-07-2009, 04:45 PM
Invasion of privacy? Who snapped these candid pic's?

Zarak
06-07-2009, 04:59 PM
Fixed it for yaa, no charge.:p

You don't want to be a powerful billionaire surrounded by beautiful topless models? ;)

Breakfast in Vegas
06-07-2009, 05:08 PM
A hymen can be reconstructed nowadays via plastic surgery. That little whore has been ****ing her way up towards to the top of Italian's social food chain for quite some time now. Her latest ride is Silvio Berlusconi's dong. And come'on, a model, 17 yrs old and still virgin?!?!? Can anyone else scream "bull****"??True enough, it was a mute point anyway.

Berlusconi is a slimeball, but you can't blame him for getting away with as much as he can.

Connaught Ranger
06-07-2009, 05:18 PM
You don't want to be a powerful billionaire surrounded by beautiful topless models? ;)

Na I am content to be a retired old soldier surrounded by beautiful topless models who are millionaires.woot

Russian_dude
06-08-2009, 05:37 AM
Someone can ID the weapon the guard is carrying? Just to know if he is a member of Italian police forces or just a military contractor.

It seems the resort of a Colombian Drug Lord many time seen in movies...

... every day that pass I am more and more ashamed of being Italian.

So you would rather live in Scandinavistan, femi-nazi "paradises" being overrun with asylum seekers and welfare abusers? Where watching **** will soon be illigal? Where you have to be a millionaire to afford a car with more the 150hp?

Russian_dude
06-08-2009, 05:39 AM
Berlusconi is a slime-ball... but he is honest unlike the real politicians.

Connaught Ranger
06-08-2009, 06:23 AM
Berlusconi is a slime-ball... but he is honest unlike the real politicians.

Did you read that on the B.N.P. website too p-)

Macs.
06-08-2009, 06:28 AM
Berlusconi is a slime-ball... but he is honest unlike the real politicians.

He is not honest.

Jesus.

If you don't follow his politics atleast don't make such totally wrong comments.

Russian_dude
06-08-2009, 07:39 AM
He is not honest.

Jesus.

If you don't follow his politics atleast don't make such totally wrong comments.

Honest in being a slime ball. I don't believe he didn't tap that 17 year old a$$ one second. I meant with him, what you see is what you get.

Ragno
06-08-2009, 12:18 PM
Most of those girls (some underage) and entertainers, guests are flown by public aircraft of the Italian State. Illegally months ago, now he put some laws that permits this abuse if a public person is with them on the fly.

Rember that in Italy legal not always equal to moral, or acceptable by modern western democracy standard... most Berlusconi laws are nearly uncostitutional and tailored for him to avoid incarceration (see the lawyer Mills conviction for corruption).

The Private Villa was also "fortified" with public money.

I stop here... Berlusconi story is too vast to summarize. I was a right wing (still I am, in a sort) supporter (not for him, but for his allies). But I am also curious, inquisitive... thanks to internet, books I learned a lot of things that destroyed my world.

Please people, don't judge all of Italians bad. Many of them are impotent victims of a semi-feudal society based on connections, corruption and general hopelessness of a satisfying professional career.

We must bow to the powerful for the greates dreams: a public job. Because our mostly small businesses economy destroys the life, the wages and the possibilities of the private empoyees for the benefit of a parasitical class of empoyers (artisans, professional, small industrial) that is the majority of our ruling class. (True gems in the profession and in the business, of course, exists... but those enlightened enterpreneurs are few).

I still hope. I still believe for a better future of my country and my brothers and sisters.



He has developed a network of connections that dispense favors, public empoyment, money to a vast stratus of society.

Plus, the majority of working class people who vote him are uneducated and watch only italian language media that are controlled by him.

Plus... the opposition is divided, often criminally complacent.

We need more education for our people. More access to foreign, unbiased, source of news.

I am still amazed of the quality of some programs of BBC, investigative journalism and son on.

Here we have soccer, Great Brother and other stupid reality that drugs the minds of many.


I think almost the same, there are many "know it all" people i read here thinking he is cool he is someone to imitate, come and live here then i am pretty sure you will change your mind.

He is a shame for anyone caring a bit of his own country.
Good jester, good anchorman, good snake charmer, whatever you want but not a politician (in the greek meaning of this word).

Every time he opens his mouth and a bullsh** comes out there is suddenly someone from his "advisors" ready to say "...oh come on he was obviously kidding!!" This way you can say whatever you want.

this is not like ants and aphids, this is like dogs and ticks. He is not giving anything in return to Italy or italians.

king size tick.

7thKeeper
06-09-2009, 02:11 AM
Aaah, nice to see that little Mussolini still isn't failing in lowering my expectations of him. I have some italian relatives who actually like this guy... *sighs* I can honestly say that he's the only politician I despise and hopefully Italy will get rid of that guy.

P.S. I am naturally referring to Romano Mussolini, italian jazz artist ;P