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2RHPZ
06-30-2004, 11:15 AM
Ther was no source published ... posted 12 Jan 2004


Scenario

India has launched a pre-emptive strike on Pakistan in an attempt to eliminate it's nuclear weapons capability and as a military threat in the near future.

ANALYSIS

Air Battle
Initial strike carried out by Indian Sukhoi 33s/30s, Harriers, MiG-27's, MiG-23's, MiG-21's and Jaguar's on forward Pakistani command posts, airfields, weapon storage facilities (namely nuclear weapons and IRBM) and communication relay stations escorted by MiG 29's, MiG-23's, Mirage 2000 and MiG 21-93's. While the Indian Naval Harriers and attack craft attack the port of Karachi in an attempt to close it to keep reinforcements from sympathetic Islamic countries coming in via sea.
In such a situation the Pakistani Air Force would have a major problem securing their airspace mainly due to the fact that their aircraft lack any real BVR (beyond visual range) capability or look-down shoot-down capability with only their F-16's having a look-down shoot-down capability but limited to only AIM-9 Sidewinders (Note:- although Pakistan is thought to have up to 500 AIM-7 Sparrows the only F-16A's capable of firing them are the F-16A Block 15 ADF used by the USAF). While their Mirage III's , V's , F-7's (MiG-21) and F-6's (MiG-19) have no look-down shoot-down capability and no BVR capability (Note:- some F-7's and Mirage III/V are to be upgraded, this will include new radar's and other avionics). While this gap may be filled in the near future through the FC-1 fighter while this would the PAF a look-down shoot-down capability that it presently lacks it would not be superior to the MiG-29, Mirage 2000 or the LCA. Thus at present this means that if Indian attack aircraft come in at low level Pakistani aircraft would have difficulty in detecting IAF aircraft and have no capability of engaging them at long range. While the Indian escort aircraft having a BVR capability with weapons including AA-10 Alamo's , AA-12 Adders and Super 530D AAM's would have the capability to engage PAF aircraft at medium/long range allowing IAF attack aircraft to operate under an umbrella of air cover, thus giving the IAF effective air superiority over much of the battle field. ( There have also been reports that the IAF have treated their front line aircraft such as the Jaguar, MiG-29, MiG-27 and Mirage 2000 with a stealth material said to reduce the RCS of aircraft by up to 70% and increases weight by up to 50kg, Aircraft & Aerospace Asia-Pacific, Feb. 1996 pg.20). Without a BVR capability Pakistan has to rely on a SAM system based primarily on short range SAM's like the Crotale and man portable SAM's like the Stinger and indigenous Anza, here to Pakistan lacks the modern SAM system that most armies now have. While the IAF will sustain losses to SAM's without a medium range, low-medium altitude SAM Pakistan will suffer serious losses to Indian deep strike missions.

Another weakness of the PAF is their apparent lack of dedicated attack aircraft with the Q-5 Fantan being their only dedicated strike aircraft , with the F-6's (MiG-19's) and Mirage III / V having to double as point defence fighters or interceptors. Secondly none of these aircraft have the capability to deliver PGM's only 'dumb' bomb's. The best strike aircraft possessed by the PAF is the F-16 but it is unlikely that Pakistan would use it's only advanced fighter in a strike role (Note: some reports suggest that Pakistan may have acquired PGM's from Denel). This limits the ability of the PAF to strike deep into India or hit targets with any great precision. This has been recognized by the Pakistani Government which attempted to fill the hole with attempted procurements of both the Su-27 and the Mirage 2000. Both procurement programs were abandoned after the respective companies pulled out after pressure by India as both companies are lobbying for a multi billion dollar training aircraft contract for the IAF and due to spiralling costs. Most recently the PAF has become involved in the FC-1 program , an aircraft which would be powered by the RD-93 , be equipped with an advanced look down - shoot down radar and have a g-limit of + 8g's (possibly 9+ for the PAF). In comparison the IAF recently acquired a PGM capability with the acquisition of the Rafael Litening laser designation pod for it's Jaguar's and Mirage 2000. While it is investigating the possibility of upgrading it's MiG-27 attack aircraft.

The IAF's superiority in aircraft with 135 modern combat aircraft (with 125 MiG 21 to be upgraded to the 21-93 standard, a projected 200 LCA to be delivered by 2010 and 40 Su-30MKI's with the option to manufacture 100) to the PAF's 38 (with a possible 150 FC-1's to be delivered within the next 10-15 years provided the program continues) would result in the IAF gaining almost complete air superiority over much of the battle field while limiting the ability of the PAF to strike deep into India.

It is also probable that Saudi Arabia may loan Pakistan an AWACS aircraft as Russia has previously done with the Tu-126 Moss. It is also probable that if Saudi Arabia were to send Pakistan an AWACS that they would also send along at least one squadron of F-15 interceptors as escort for the AWACS as well as to defend the AWACS in operations. While an AWACS if would be a massive improvement in Pakistan's air defence capability, it is unlikely that Saudi Arabia would send more than 1 and without an airborne refuelling system and because of post flight maintenance the AWACS would probably be limited to 1 flight per day (with 12 hours on patrol). It is also possible that the United Arab Emirates would provide help in the form of Mirage 2000's. Another potential vulnerability of the Pakistani air force is its dependence on ground controlled intercept's, any attacks on control towers, command and control centres and the use of communications jamming could cause significant problems to airborne units which would find themselves isolated and due to the lack of effective radars unable to engage the enemy. This type of tactic would be particularly effective at night as it would allow Indian fighters to engage Pakistani units at long range at relatively low risk.

The PAF would be expected to lose about 40-50% of it's aircraft while the IAF would be expected to sustain losses of around 20% - 30% consisting of mainly MiG-21's and other ground attack aircraft which would be forced to get into close combat with the PAF aircraft as well as loses due to Pakistani SAM's such as the Crotale and the large number of hand held SAM's. The overall lack of modern aircraft seriously damage's the capability of the PAF in defending Pakistani airspace despite the high quality of it's pilots.

Sea battle
In naval matters India has a large advantage over the Pakistani Navy namely to it's aircraft carrier VIRAAT equipped with Harriers and Sea Kings along with a large number of surface vessels including six destroyers the latest of which are the Delhi Class DDG's which are among the worlds finest destroyers with 2 more planed, large numbers of frigates, corvettes including the Godavari Class (6) , Khukri Class (8) , Improved Krivak III Class (3 are on order and 3 are planed) and the Tarantul-I Class (11 of which are in service ; 5 are planed) and 17 submarines including nine Soviet Kilo class and four German SSK 209 Class, Type 1500. With a program to produce SLCM armed nuclear submarines and one aircraft carrier, along with this talks with Russia over the sale of Admiral Gorshkov continue, the current deal would see Admiral Gorshkov being equipped with a 14.5deg ski jump and MiG-29K's and possibly a navalised LCA, this would put the Indian Navy effectively into fifth place behind the US, UK, France and Russia.
In comparison the Pakistani Navy is based around 6 Type 21 Amazon class frigates bought from the RN after being forced to return 8 US frigates (Brooke class) due to sanctions. The Amazon class are veterans of the Falklands War where two were lost due to air attacks, displaying a major venerability to air attack. Their main armament comes in the form of four M.38 Exocet SSM (refitted with Harpoons) and LY 60N SAM's which have a range of 13km. With no aircraft carrier the fleet is left naked to air attack from INS Harriers , Sea Kings and IAF Jaguars all of which are equipped with Sea Eagle ASM's which have a range of 110 km. The Jaguars have also had their radar's upgraded to the Elta EL/M - 2032 which has been offered as an upgrade by Israel.

With the recent acquisition of the Ka-31AEW for operations of the carrier VIRAAT severally reduces the ability of the PAF Mirages configured to carry Exocet's to avoid detection in their strikes on the INS carrier group, as the Ka-31AEW's would give the INS Sea Harriers sufficient time to intercept or harass any attackers. As experience form the Falklands War has shown the Sea Harrier is more than a match for the Mirage III/V , where no Sea Harriers were lost to Mirages in ACM in return for the destruction of approximately 20 Mirages and Skyhawks. The range of the Exocet of 50km (or 70km for the latest versions) when launched at altitude means that attackers will have to approach to aprox. 45km from the carrier group an undertaking that would be hazardous under the best of circumstances.

The sharpest teeth of the PN is it's submarine arm which consists of 4 Daphne and 2 Augosta which are equipped with Harpoon SSM's, with 3 Agosta 90B class to be delivered by 2006. Although the number at sea at any one time would be limited to approximately 2 due to the fact that a minimum of 3 sub's are needed to maintain one at sea continuously ( one at sea, one undergoing repairs/servicing and a dock side trainer). Secondly the submarines are quite rapidly reaching the end of their service lives having been replaced by almost all services due to the rapid advances in sonar technology and the proliferation of the Kilo class which has gained the nickname "Black Hole" by NATO due to its low noise signature. While the PN submarine arm would be a major thorn in the side of the INS the lack of surface support limits their ability to strike the INS. The INS submarine arm by comparison would receive large amounts of support both from surface vessels and from air assets ( i.e. Tu-142M Bear, Il-38 and Dornier 228 ).

Most naval experts agree that while the INS will take loses to the PN will be beaten due to in-effective air cover for their surface combatants and limited SAM capability as well as the fact that it would be out-numbered 3-1. The result would be a closing of the port of Karachi and inability of Pakistani allies to resupply Pakistan via the sea. Rather than engage the Indian fleet the Pakistan Navy should concentrate on attempting to hold open its sea lanes, as any attack on the Indian fleet would probably result in failure.

Ground campaign
With the ground campaign it neither country has a clear advantage that would allow it a sweeping victory (Gulf War style) but rather it would result in a bloody campaign that would last several weeks possibly months. Unless a successful Blitzkrieg style of campaign can be accomplished by one of the sides. While India has a 2-1 advantage in personal (1.1 million to 500,000) The Pakistani Army has shown to be quite effective when operating in defence and any Indian attack can expect to meet severe Pakistani opposition.
As always in a ground campaign the side which can gain air superiority and can maintain an advantage in armoured vehicles has a distinct advantage. With the Indian Air Force having the ability to gain air superiority over the battle field and the Army having 2000 T-72 M1 , 1800 Vickers MBT's and 700 T-55's, with the Arjuin MBT to go into production in the near future. Compared to the Pakistani Army's 2000 MBT's consisting of T-55, T-59, T-69, T-85II, T80 (Ukrainian), M-47 and M-48's ( Note: the Al Khalid MBT is currently undergoing testing and is expected to enter production soon). This gives an advantage of 4500 MBT to the 2000 Pakistani MBT. But consideration has to be given to the fact that not all the MBT's , soldiers or aircraft can be pressed to front line use as India would have to maintain a significant presence on it's border with China as an India at war with Pakistan would represent a tempting target to China. Although the acquisition of nuclear weapons should provide a credible deterrent to China. One advantage that India could use is it's massive transport helicopter arm with over 300 in service and 200 ALH's planned, this could allow India to place large numbers of troops behind enemy line's quickly gaining a significant advantage, on the other hand Pakistan does not have anywhere near this capability.

Short of outstanding tactics from one of the sides the ground campaign would result in a bloody and protracted war with neither side gaining any serious advantages. Although the lack of Pakistani reserves would begin to tell as well as the ability of the IAF to strike major targets in Pakistan this would result in the gaining of some ground by the Indian Army but the existence of the state of Pakistan would never be threatened nor would there be the possibility of the Pakistani Army gaining much Indian territory. The greatest danger is that in the struggle to gain ground one of the sides may resort to the use of nuclear weapons.

While Pakistan would seem to have the better missiles they are based on Chinese designs or are Chinese in origin leaving a question mark over their accuracy and reliability. As recent launches have shown Chinese satellite launch vehicles are generally unreliable at best, while their ICBM's and IRBM's would be more reliable there is still a question mark over them, although they still provide a very credible nuclear threat to India but lack the accuracy to present any real conventional threat. On the other hand the Indian Prithvi SRBM which is capable of caring a 1 tone warhead over 250km has been reported to have attained an CEP of 10m in some tests through the use of a warhead similar to that of the RA-DAG warhead used by the Pershing II (Asia-Pacific Defence Reporter, April/May 1994, pg 20). While the Agni missile system said to have a range of 2500km is said to be just months away from production should the need arise, along with recent advances in Indian rocketry that have made the possibility of an Indian ICBM a reality. The recent acquisition of the S-300 SAM with a range in excess of 200km and a secondary ABM capability also provides India with basic ABM capability. Also the recent tests by India of sub kiloton nuclear weapons which are primarily used as battle field weapons suggests that Indian strategist's may have envisioned their use in battle.

Result
In the final analysis the PAF and the Pakistani Naval Service would have had much of their offensive capabilities destroyed, while the Pakistani Army although better off would have lost most of it's top divisions , something that would have also occurred with the Indian Army. While the INS and IAF would be in a significantly better position than their Pakistani counterparts, the IAF would have to engage in a major rebuilding to address the losses that it would suffer to it's fleet mainly it's older attack fighters in their attacks on Pakistani targets and in maintaining air superiority, while the INS would have to address losses that would incur in it's engagements with the PNS. While Pakistan's push to become a regional superpower would have been severely curtailed. While the economies of both countries but in particular Pakistan would be severally damaged.

Kampfbaer
06-30-2004, 03:49 PM
Very interesting to read.

But the scenario concentrates on a more or less conventional war, it would be interesting to know under which circumstances one side, most probably Pakistan, would go nuclear....

I´m not sure if the local geography in the area would allow India to make a blitzkrieg-type attack in order to get to the Nuclear tipped missiles before they could be launched as a last sign of defiance by Pakistan.

Has someone more insight in this matter or some interesting links....?

Black Dots
06-30-2004, 04:40 PM
I´m not sure if the local geography in the area would allow India to make a blitzkrieg-type attack in order to get to the Nuclear tipped missiles before they could be launched as a last sign of defiance by Pakistan.

Good point, but I feel that India’s inherent air superiority would allow them to take out the storage facilities before the warheads could be moved or assembled (apparently, Pakistan claims it’s warheads are stored in separate components. See this link for more info on that: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/pakistan/nuke/index.html) However, conducting such a precise air strike would require good intelligence and timing. India would have to decide to make such a pre-emptive strike well before the shooting starts. Otherwise, the warheads may be moved or made operational.

Kampfbaer
06-30-2004, 05:01 PM
Thx for the link. :D

Black Dots
06-30-2004, 05:08 PM
Thx for the link.

No problem! Read the stuff about South Africa’s nuke program and doctrine. It’s pretty interesting. Apparently, they built them to use as blackmail to get the West on their side in any conflict with their neighbors.

2RHPZ
07-07-2004, 01:04 PM
Related ...

Interesing interview with Pakistan AF ACM

Interview from The News (Daily Jang) a Pakistani newspaper

LAHORE: Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Kaleem Saadat has said the PAF will be equipped with the frontline, state-of-the-art fighter aircraft within three years to address the regional imbalance in the skies.

In an exclusive panel interview to The News, the Air Chief Marshal hinted at equipping the PAF with, at least, 60 air-superiority aircraft in the near futurefor enabling the PAF to defend the country’s aerial frontiers. The PAF is expected to finalize one of the available options soon.

The interview panel comprised Salim Bokhari, and Mayed Ali. Discussing the multiple options which the PAF is weighing, the ACM said, the French Mirage 2000-9, Chinese J-10 (F-10), US F-16s and Swedish AJ-39 (Grippens) were the potential hi-tech aircraft to meet the air force ‘s immediate requirement.

Any of these sophisticated jetfighters could help address the balance of air power in the region. "It is imperative for the PAF to equip its existing fleet with hi-tech air-superiority aircraft to counter any aerial threat in future.

The ACM said the PAF had already presented the government with its future force goals for the next 10-15 years, and the government had not found anything wrong with that. He informed that the government had approved the plans submitted, and assured the PAF it would get the desired funds.

The ACM, however, maintained that the purchase of new aircraft was an exhaustive exercise. He believed it was quite a task to get the best value for the limited resources, as the prices varied with the technology. Quoting examples, he said any air force could purchase an aircraft between ranges of $5 million to $250 million (F-7 to F-22 Raptor). He said it depended on what gadget an air force wanted on board. More sophisticated the equipment one wanted on the aircraft higher would be the price-tag. Moreover, no deal could be ascertained as final till the agreement was signed for so many other factors played a vital role in the materialization of any deal. Ranging from technical reasons, financial constraints to diplomatic pressures, anything could leave an impact on the proposed plan.

During the interview the Air Chief discussed pros and cons of all the options and emphasized that best choice would be made to induct a suitable aircraft in the PAF’s inventory.

The Chief said the existing fleet - 30 plus F-16s and 50 F-7PGs - would go beyond 2012. In addition to this, he added, the PAF would acquire 150-200 JF-17 (Thunder) to meet the future demand. He said over and above this, the PAF would need 50-100 sophisticated western aircraft, which would be the leading edge of the air force.

The PAF would have to work on a three-****ged programme for creating a semblance of balance of air power in the region - upgrade the existing fleet and acquire the JF-17, go for advanced Chinese J-10s in the coming few years and acquire hi-tech western jetfighters as soon as possible. "The question is, will the PAF have the resources to fund all these programmes?"

When asked about the F-16s, Saadat said it was not an issue. "I tell the Americans that F-16 has become an emotional issue for both the parties."

In a lighter tone, the ACM laughed and said he suggested to his interlocutors, ``why don’t we change the request for F-16s to one F-18s, so we can close the F-16s chapter and start a new chapter of F-18s. You see why the PAF is stuck with the case of F-16s.’’

The Air Chief said 16-30 additional F-16s would enhance the PAF’s capability tremendously with very little cost because the logistics were in place, technical training was in place and pilot training was in place. When asked if Pakistan was getting the F-16s, he said he couldn’t say it for sure. Pakistan was not in a position to wait for F-16s for too long.

"If it comes, it comes as a bonus. I am not counting on F-16s." However, it remains a litmus test of relationship with the US. The clear-headed ACM believes Pakistan will have to acquire the latest technology because it is technology alone that provides you effective deterrence.

The ACM said there was a realization on the government’s part, regarding the urgency for equipping the PAF with new sophisticated planes.``The air force has been promised with the largest chunk in the defence budget. This couldn’t have been possible without that realization.’’ Kaleem Saadat is of the strong view the war strategy has changed in the present times, and ultimately the air force will prove to be decisive contributor to success. He believed the land-occupation was no more a bargaining chip, rather hitting the economic targets and lending financial blow was the strategy in vogue. Instead of outside-in strategy, that is, cutting through the defence of the enemy and reaching the capital city, the modern-day warfare emphasizes on the inside-out strategy - hitting inside starting from command and control and moving outwards. He is of the view the territory is not important, the brains, know-how, research, effective system of governance, commitment and economy are important.

``Any country will like to destroy the industry, infrastructure, bridges and other economic strategic targets, leaving the economy of the enemy paralyzed. Achieving this, it would put you behind by, say, ten years; so why the territory be occupied. The armed forces are of no use if your economy is not strong enough to sustain them. To avoid the destruction to our infrastructure and economy, Pakistan will have to strengthen its air force.’’

In response to a query if the PAF had learnt any lesson from the USAF’s presence in Pakistan during the Operation Restore Hope, the Chief said, ``One learns from every experience. How same things can be done differently, and how can a system respond in a better way.’’ He said the USAF personnel used makeshift arrangements quite effectively, like portable lights for illuminating the runway or flying small UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles) for force protection. The Chief clarified that during Operation Enduring Freedom armed US aircraft did not attack Afghanistan from Pakistani soil.

When asked about the focus on the acquisition of UAVs, keeping in view their role in modern warfare, the Air Chief informed that the PAF had established a squadron of UAVs. The crews were training with half and full scale birds.

Talking about the ground-controlled air-defence system, he said it had been upgraded indigenously. Moreover, new radars have been acquired, and fresh plans are in the pipeline.

The ACM is a strong advocate of improving the human-resource base of the PAF with an aim to improve the commitment and outlook of the arm. For this purpose, he said, the air force had published two books - The Doctrine of the Pakistan Air Force and Blue Book (True North).

The work on the Doctrine of the PAF project was initiated during former ACM Mushaf Ali Mir’s time. This book got into print after nine months ACM Kaleem Saadat assumed the slot. The ACM believes the book has been written to tell the people, other services and various institutions about the PAF’s objectives and principles; and the core competencies the PAF aspires to have if it is to defend the country effectively.

As for the Blue Book, it’s a code for making complete and successful professional air force personnel. ``Around 4000 officers and 33,000 to 34,000 technicians have the honour of wearing the blue uniform. So when one joins the air force, he should know what he should believe in and identify the objectives before him. So he could work towards the achievement of the same. We have been ritualistic in our approach so far for achieving the objectives. Reading a document does not mean you have acquired the knowledge, rather you need to evolve a way to measure the impact of the knowledge acquired by putting to test to find out whether or not the student has acquired the knowledge, skills and training’’.

The ‘True North’ tells the cadet what is the vision, mission and values of PAF." The Blue Book is handed over to the cadet when he arrives in the academy.

Apart from improving the hardware, projects like JF-17 (Thunder), the software in the shape of human resource should also be focused upon. ``The people are discouraged at times for not having the most modern aeroplanes, but we have given the vision to our manpower that we should be one of the respected air forces. Other air forces should come to you for consultation, help, assistance and ideas. You are respected if you do your job well.’’

He maintained the PAF was respected for exploiting the entire potential of the platform (aircraft). ``There could be guys, who could fly to a certain target and drop the bombs and come back. He has flown. But, there could be another guy, who could fly the plane to exploit its entire potential and performance envelope and could deliver the weapon from any position. He is a better professional, and will be respected. It doesn’t matter if you fly Mirages, F-7s or F-16s, it matters how you fly them.’’

Emphasizing the need for overall improvement, the PAF Chief said the advanced air forces had brought the pilot-rejection ratio to zero, while the PAF had that of around 40-50 percent from the time of recruitment. By improving the overall screening process, he added, the PAF could bring this dropout rate down thus saving vital resources. He went on to say the PAF endeavoured, making best of the soft and hardware. For instance, he said, the PAF was making efforts to utilize its fleet to the maximum. ``If we can operate effectively our existing fleet, that is, we can fly these aircraft the way we want to fly them and when we want to fly them. It contributes to efficiency.’’ By making a very small investment into the support-equipment, the performance of the air force could be enhanced many folds.

ACM Kaleem Saadat said there was a whole revamping of the air force going on, and the bottomline of the Blue Book is ‘rather than blind obedience, the air force will insist on informed obedience’. ``The pilots and ground-staff should know that they are the stakeholders, it’s one team and everybody has a role to play. The values we have set for ourselves are integrity, duty and excellence.’’

On the same front, Saadat said, the PAF had also revised the rules and regulations to meet the modern-day challenges. ``Organizations are run better through the implementation of standardized and up-to-date rules and regulations and not through direct commands of members of the Air Staff.

Air Chief Marshal Kaleem Saadat was born on 12 December, 1951. He was commissioned in the General Duties (Pilot) Branch in March, 1971 and served as fighter pilot in various squardrons of the Pakistan Air Force. He has qualified Flying Instructors Course, Combat Commanders Course, PAF Air War Course, French Inter Services War Course and National Defence Course.

During his career, he has commanded a fighterís squadron, a fighterís wing and an operational Base. He has also been the Commandant of the College of Flying Training, Risalpur. His important staff and instructional appointments include Director of Plans at Air Headquarters, Chief Instructor at National Defence College, Deputy Chief of Air Staff (Operations) and Deputy Chief of the Air Staff (Personnel) at Air Headquarters. He has also served on various assignments abroad including posting to Turkey and deputation to Algeria. He is married and has three children. In recognition of his services he has been awarded Nishan-e-Imtiaz (Military).

2RHPZ
07-08-2004, 12:13 PM
India, Pakistan adjust margins for accidental nuclear war

Column: Foreign affairs by Stuart McMillan

Recent agreements between India and Pakistan may lessen but not remove the prospect of an accidental nuclear war in South Asia.

From the beginning of the nuclear testing India and Pakistan conducted in 1998, there was a fear that, apart from any deliberate exchange of nuclear weapons, an accidental exchange might occur. In the days when the Soviet Union and the US had weapons targeted at one another, a whole system of safeguards developed, including hotlines to warn of any nuclear accident or accidental firing.

No such credible safeguards existed between India and Pakistan. Although there was supposed to be a hotline telephone, sometimes it did not get answered at the other end.

On one documented occasion one country could not account for the disappearance of a number of aircraft of the other and started to prepare for war. Peace was preserved mainly because of the intervention of the US, whose satellites had picked up that the planes had been taken to another place for regular servicing. The US told the country preparing for war what was going on *hardly a reassuring incident for the rest of the world about antagonist countries armed with missiles and nuclear weapons.

On June 19 and 20, however, military authorities in India and Pakistan reached an agreement about procedures for advising each other of any nuclear accidents. A week later the foreign secretaries of the two countries met to discuss amicably, from all reports a wider range of issues between them, including Kashmir and confidence-building measures over conventional weapons.

The first meeting agreed India and Pakistan would advise one another of proposed missile tests and their flight paths, they would not conduct any nuclear tests and they would improve their hotlines and have one between the foreign secretaries as well. It was not announced formally but perhaps there was also an undertaking to actually answer the telephone.

The holding of the talks was a hopeful sign in itself because there was a new government in India, after a grouping led by the Congress Party under Manmohan Singh defeated the alliance of the Bharatiya Janata Party. It was reassuring to Pakistan that the new government had set its direction toward peace talks. For the moment, there appears to be a disposition in both India and Pakistan to explore the potential for peace.

Not that the agreement carried things a great deal further than had been arrived at previously. There is certainly no mood to renounce the nuclear weapons developed. Early in June Pakistan conducted a missile test and last Sunday India conducted one. Both plan further missile tests and Pakistan has announced it will conduct a big one within a couple of months.

Many in Pakistan feared the country would come under huge pressure from the US to give up its nuclear weapons, particularly because of Abdul Kadeer Khan, who developed the nuclear bomb for Pakistan and then made his knowledge and components available to several countries to help them develop nuclear weapons.

The US is on a campaign to discourage that sort of thing but tempered its criticism of Pakistan because it wants Pakistan's assistance to combat terrorism and to pacify Afghanistan. President Musharraf replied to a question about US pressure by saying it was a joke and Pakistan had no intention of rolling back its nuclear programme and would continue to conduct missile tests.

Welcome as the agreements have been and reassuring as planned further talks are, serious gaps remain in the arrangements. For one thing, even if a warning is given, the flight time of some missiles fired accidentally would be as little as eight minutes. This may be insufficient time to intercept a missile or even to give adequate warning.

Second, it appears India and Pakistan are both deploying nuclear weapons that is, mounting them on missiles and having them aboard planes. Given their determination to accumulate nuclear weapons, a safer approach would be to separate the storage and the methods of delivery.

Third, there is a loophole in the agreement not to conduct further tests. Each side has the option of judging whether there are extraordinary circumstances if they want to withdraw.

Fourth, there is a built-in destabilising factor. While Pakistan sees its nuclear weaponry as designed to deter or to protect itself against India, India thinks of its nuclear weaponry partly as a balance against China, one of the acknowledged nuclear powers. Thus while India accumulates nuclear weaponry against China, Pakistan considers it has to match India's acquisitions.

When they spoke of the June 19 and 20 accord, India and Pakistan presented it as demonstrating that they were responsible nuclear powers. Both long to be recognised as nuclear powers, part of the nuclear club, and share a sense of being excluded. Neither has signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT), which they consider as discriminatory toward every country except the five recognised nuclear powers.

A number of countries, New Zealand among them, would like to see India and Pakistan renounce their nuclear weapons and the world return to the condition before the May 1998 when the tests were conducted.



Stuart McMillan is an adjunct senior fellow in the school of political science and communication at the University of Canterbury

SOUTH ASIA NUKE RATING:

WORRYING

June 4: Pakistan tests nuclear-capable missile with range of 1500km

July 4: India tests nuclear-capable missile with range of 700km

HOPEFUL

* Foreign secretaries agree to full staffs at high commissions and to reopening consulates in one another's countries

* Improved train services between countries

* Improved atmosphere between India and Pakistan

* Willingness to engage in confidence-building measures