Rev. Wright says he doesn't regret severed relationship with president

[Geezah]

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright says he does not feel any regrets over his severed relationship with President Barack Obama, a former member of the Chicago church in which Wright was the longtime pastor.

Wright also said that he had not spoken to his former church member since Obama became president, implying that the White House won't allow Obama to talk to him. He did not indicate whether he had tried to reach Obama.

"Regret for what... that the media went back five, seven, 10 years and spent $4,000 buying 20 years worth of sermons to hear what I've been preaching for 20 years?

"Regret for preaching like I've been preaching for 50 years? Absolutely none," Wright said.

Wright said that when he went to the polls, he did not hold any grudge against Obama.

"Of course I voted for him; he's my son. I'm proud of him," Wright said. "I've got five biological kids. They all make mistakes and bad choices. I haven't stopped loving any of them.

"He made mistakes. He made bad choices. I've got kids who listen to their friends. He listened to those around him. I did not disown him."

Asked if he had spoken to the president, Wright said: "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office. ...

"They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is. ... I said from the beginning: He's a politician; I'm a pastor. He's got to do what politicians do."

Wright also said Obama should have sent a U.S. delegation to the World Conference on Racism held recently in Geneva, Switzerland, but that the president did not do so for fear of offending Jews and Israel.

"Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing (by) the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don't want Barack talking like that because that's anti-Israel," Wright said.

Wright is in Hampton this week attending Hampton University's 95th Annual Ministers Conference. The son of a pastor, Wright said he has attended the conference since he was a child – though he was not spotted at the conference in 2008 during the heat of the debate over comments he made that many in the media branded racially divisive.

Perhaps without the Wright controversy, the issue of race might not have become a part of the 2008 presidential campaign.

After the initial rounds of the controversy, Obama made his famous speech in Philadelphia on race relations, in which he said he could no more disown Wright than his own grandmother.

But the issue heated up after more comments by Wright at the National Press Club and from other controversial speakers at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Obama eventually distanced himself from the church.

Link (http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story)

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[WCF.KAS]

Wow so a a guy that has no contact with the president has a radical political view and drops a good old anti semetic bomb.....

I guess its time to impeach Obama....

[Dominique]

Rev. Wright is just another in a long line self righteous, load mouthed, a$$holes, that should be ignored.

[Geezah]

Wow so a a guy that has no contact with the president has a radical political view and drops a good old anti semetic bomb.....

I guess its time to impeach Obama....

Obama had attended the Trinity United Church of Christ for two decades and Wright married he and his wife Michelle, and also baptized his two daughters.

While he may not have had contact with Wright for the last 5mths, there is still an established relationship there that Wright is fully aware of and realizes that he will speak to Obama in a few years.

As far as impeaching Obama, not sure why that was thrown out there.

[walford]

Rev. Wright is just another in a long line self righteous, load mouthed, a$$holes, that should be ignored.Oh, don't worry, it will be ignored. Do a Google search if you don't have access to NEXIS and see what news outlets are carrying this story -- and which are not.

Lewis Farrakhan regularly says such things and rarely does his nutty, racialist, anti-Semitic rhetoric make it into print without being heavily sanitized.

Change the demographics and ideological spectrum on this story and imagine if a Jewish conservative religious leader said "them Blacks..." We would be hearing this quoted every night for the next few weeks on every radio and TV broadcast and blared in 76-point bolded text on the top fold of every major US newspaper.

There would be riots in the streets and ethnically targeted violence. No jury would convict the perpetrators even if they killed people -- so long as the victims belonged to the 'oppressor' demographic.

If you think I'm exaggerating, bear in mind that during the Rodney King riots, a man was dragged from a truck merely for being white and the perps were not convicted because they were deemed to be caught up in righteous furor and therefore could not be held responsible for their actions.

[Chulo]

Wow so a a guy that has no contact with the president has a radical political view and drops a good old anti semetic bomb.....

I guess its time to impeach Obama....
no contact.. really? and its not just antisemeticism, if you really understand what Wright was preaching and Obama was listening to and taking advice from for the past 20 years you might see it diffrently

[Mu-Meson]

no contact.. really? and its not just antisemeticism, if you really understand what Wright was preaching and Obama was listening to and taking advice from for the past 20 years you might see it diffrently

I'm beginning to suspect Obama either was not a very regular attendee at Trinity or slept through all the sermons. How else can you go 20 years without noticing that this guy is a total wackjob?

[walford]

no contact.. really? and its not just antisemeticism, if you really understand what Wright was preaching and Obama was listening to and taking advice from for the past 20 years you might see it diffrentlyOh, no. Obama claims he wasn't there when such things were said. I for one, believe him. :roll:

[Soldat_Américain]

can't this guy just go away?

[Chulo]

I'm beginning to suspect Obama either was not a very regular attendee at Trinity or slept through all the sermons. How else can you go 20 years without noticing that this guy is a total wackjob?
Yes, i think absence and ignorance is the answer to that question. Actually, seems like he spent about 30 years not really knowing the people he associated with, work for or idealized. But now he knows.. The HORROR! they tricked him real good

[Dominique]

Lewis Farrakhan regularly says such things and rarely does his nutty, racialist, anti-Semitic rhetoric make it into print without being heavily sanitized.

I include Farrakhan, on that list too.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

As far as impeaching Obama, not sure why that was thrown out there.When did you get this sense of justice and morality I don't remember you being this hard on Ex president Bush!p-)

[California Joe]

WTF don't people get about the fact that Obama is a Chicago politician?

[Soldat_Américain]

WTF don't people get about the fact that Obama is a Chicago politician?
They think he's a pinko commie...although I'm sure he'd put a knife in someone's political spine and dig around for a couple days if he needed to give them a message.

[California Joe]

Exactly. This guy has been meticulously planning his rise in politics for years and years. I don't know why the fact that he's a real politician should seem so astounding to people that didn't have a problem with W being drunk till he was 40 and found Jesus.

[Noons86]

His relationship with Wright was never important to him anyway, as he is a secret Muslim, remember?

[Chulo]

His relationship with Wright was never important to him anyway, as he is a secret Muslim, remember?
apparently the basic answers to questions about obama are
1. Bush's fault
2. Look at what Bush did
3. Funny Muslim name joke
4. Dont question the messiah
5. Bush



Exactly. This guy has been meticulously planning his rise in politics for years and years. I don't know why the fact that he's a real politician should seem so astounding to people that didn't have a problem with W being drunk till he was 40 and found Jesus.

You mean he carefully chose is friends, associates and supporters? Had their backing and developed an understanding for his goals and their goals and meticulously ensured they would support him and he would support them?
So NOT knowing about Ayers, Wright and a host of other associates would not be much of an excuse then.

[California Joe]

You're reading too much into his motivations. He did what was practical and expedient at the time. Like a POLITICIAN. He's a smart guy. You can get into Harvard if you have connections, but you don't get to be Law Review editor. That is simply a fact. And I don't know anyone on this board, except maybe hank, that could pull that off.

Going to the right church and the right cocktail parties and hanging out with influential local big shots on boards and committees is what politicians do. Do you not think that every politician sucks a little **** now and then to climb the ladder?

And everytime someone tells you that Obama might not be the antichrist doesn't mean they see him as a "messiah". That really is f*cking gay, and I'm pretty sure that no one that voted for him, that posts on this board has ever claimed that. Cause that too would be really gay.

[Jobu]

Obama used Rev. Wright and his church to gain street cred with the black community in Chicago who initially saw him as an interloper from Hawaii/Harvard trying to tell them what to do.

The same way he used Tony Rezko, Alexi Giannoulias, the Pritzker family, etc.

As soon as any of these people become an inconvenience to him or an obstacle to the achievement of his ambitions, he dumps them. He's a politician. What did you expect?

[Chulo]

You're reading too much into his motivations. He did what was practical and expedient at the time. Like a POLITICIAN. He's a smart guy. You can get into Harvard if you have connections, but you don't get to be Law Review editor. That is simply a fact. And I don't know anyone on this board, except maybe hank, that could pull that off.

Going to the right church and the right cocktail parties and hanging out with influential local big shots on boards and committees is what politicians do. Do you not think that every politician sucks a little **** now and then to climb the ladder?

And everytime someone tells you that Obama might not be the antichrist doesn't mean they see him as a "messiah". That really is f*cking gay, and I'm pretty sure that no one that voted for him, that posts on this board has ever claimed that. Cause that too would be really gay.
lets put it this way.. "not all ****s are the same"
You climb the ladder of your choice. If you see the people that obama has chosen to associate with there is a common thread. The inadequacies of white America and and the need for a socialized society where "equality" seems to be the key word, only that some are more equal than others.

I dont call obama the Antichrist, but i am wary of his background, motivation, assoications, past and present actions and more importanly his present policies. The nationalization of everything, the endless apologies for the "evils" of America and the unchecked spending.

I have been reading on Soft tyranny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_tyranny)and Transnational Progressivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnational_progressivism). Quite a few ideas that seem to be growing prevelant in our society today. http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/archives_roll/2002_04-06/fonte_ideological/fonte_ideological.html

[California Joe]

Obama used Rev. Wright and his church to gain street cred with the black community in Chicago who initially saw him as an interloper from Hawaii/Harvard trying to tell them what to do.

The same way he used Tony Rezko, Alexi Giannoulias, the Pritzker family, etc.

As soon as any of these people become an inconvenience to him or an obstacle to the achievement of his ambitions, he dumps them. He's a politician. What did you expect?

Exactly. P O L I T I C I A N. He didn't come from money or priviledge so he had to do it the old fashioned way. Explain it to Chulo, will you please?


lets put it this way.. "not all ****s are the same"
You climb the ladder of your choice. If you see the people that obama has chosen to associate with there is a common thread. The inadequacies of white America and and the need for a socialized society where "equality" seems to be the key word, only that some are more equal than others.

I dont call obama the Antichrist, but i am wary of his background, motivation, assoications, past and present actions and more importanly his present policies. The nationalization of everything, the endless apologies for the "evils" of America and the unchecked spending.

I have been reading on Soft tyranny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_tyranny)and Transnational Progressivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnational_progressivism). Quite a few ideas that seem to be growing prevelant in our society today. http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/archives_roll/2002_04-06/fonte_ideological/fonte_ideological.html


Do you really believe that he is any different than most of our elected officials? Seriously. I mean, other than the I'm black thing...As far as the unchecked spending thing goes, where have you been for 8 years amigo?

[Zarak]

I think if any other major politician were to associate with an equally racist and insane person, David Duke for example, people wouldn't be trying to explain it away with 'Oh he's just a politician'.

[LineDoggie]

Wow so a a guy that has no contact with the president has a radical political view and drops a good old anti semetic bomb.....

I guess its time to impeach Obama....

No contact now, maybe you were on Neptune for the last year sonny

Wright performed the Marriage, Baptized the Children, and had obams sit in his pews for years. obams has said in his book how close they were, until that Greyhound bus came along.

[LineDoggie]

can't this guy just go away?
I'm sure an accident can be arranged, something Ron Brownish

[Flagg]

Oh, don't worry, it will be ignored. Do a Google search if you don't have access to NEXIS and see what news outlets are carrying this story -- and which are not.

Lewis Farrakhan regularly says such things and rarely does his nutty, racialist, anti-Semitic rhetoric make it into print without being heavily sanitized.

Change the demographics and ideological spectrum on this story and imagine if a Jewish conservative religious leader said "them Blacks..." We would be hearing this quoted every night for the next few weeks on every radio and TV broadcast and blared in 76-point bolded text on the top fold of every major US newspaper.

There would be riots in the streets and ethnically targeted violence. No jury would convict the perpetrators even if they killed people -- so long as the victims belonged to the 'oppressor' demographic.

If you think I'm exaggerating, bear in mind that during the Rodney King riots, a man was dragged from a truck merely for being white and the perps were not convicted because they were deemed to be caught up in righteous furor and therefore could not be held responsible for their actions.

Fact check?

[Kit]

I don't really believe that Obama is a firm Christian or Muslim. If he truly bought into the things that Rev. Wright said, we would have a very different Obama. I suspect he was going to church for image or because it's a "family thing to do", nothing based off of theology. It's a very common practice in America. If Obama truly cared about theology, he would've went to a different church.

All of this is skeptical. I don't really know the guy, but that's my hunch.

[California Joe]

http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/reginald-denny

A couple of them served 3 or 4 years. 1 is now dead, Antoine Eugene Miller shot outside a nightclub, another one Damian "Football" Williams is doing life for murdering a drug dealer...They all should have been shot.

[Geezah]

Fact check?

Fact Check is probably not a good source for information. I came across this the other day.


Factcheck, funded by Annanberg Foundation, Obama was Chairman. Annanberg Foundation, funded by The Joyce Foundation, Obama was on the board. Joyce Foundation, practically funded by George Sorros who is a Bildeberg member and Tri-Lateral "New World Order" demagod.

Snopes would probably be a better choice.

[California Joe]

Pretty sure he meant that he wanted Walford to check his facts Geez. Simmah don nah.

[Geezah]

OK e Dok, just making surep-)

[shocker1]

You're reading too much into his motivations. He did what was practical and expedient at the time. Like a POLITICIAN. He's a smart guy. You can get into Harvard if you have connections, but you don't get to be Law Review editor. That is simply a fact. And I don't know anyone on this board, except maybe hank, that could pull that off.

Going to the right church and the right cocktail parties and hanging out with influential local big shots on boards and committees is what politicians do. Do you not think that every politician sucks a little **** now and then to climb the ladder?

And every time someone tells you that Obama might not be the Antichrist doesn't mean they see him as a "messiah". That really is f*cking gay, and I'm pretty sure that no one that voted for him, that posts on this board has ever claimed that. Cause that too would be really gay.
Your description of Obama or any other so called politician is precisely why you should not support such an individual. Yet we love the double speak and enjoy being lied to. This left right battle has reached new levels of ignorance and is really getting on my nerves.

Obama attended Wright's church for 20 years. Why many blow it off as political opportunism without finding that behavior repulsive is a question that needs to be answered.

This thread started with it's second post of someone injecting unfounded accusations at potential critics before the first negative viewpoint. It is nothing more than a tactic, to discredit legitimate opinions of the opposing view. Threads closed because someone's ass hurts when Obama actually deserves criticism or some mindless automaton spews offensives that destroy debate. Just stop this crap people, haters and slobbering idiots alike.

Then we move to moral relativism where we tend to say well you let Bush do this and loved it why disagree now. Legitimate question if the intention is to find common ground. More than likely it is to justify one's own opinion, make it ok for their team but off limits for the others. Even when they also took the opposite view when their "team" was leading the game. Same crap republicans did. Maybe we can get us a Czar to mediate the political landscape in this land.

[California Joe]

I don't mean to sound like a moral relativist Shocker. I sincerely detest most politicians of either party. I just figure that when faced with the lesser of two evils you go for the one that can actually use their evil powers to our benefit. Calculated risk I suppose.

I know I pick at Sarah Palin a lot but I seriously can't believe that anyone found her smart enough to potentially run this country. I see all of the same political negatives in her that I see in Obama only she's stupid. How can that be better for the country?

Guys like **** Cheney, personal cowards that got 5 deferrments from going to Vietnam, are somehow more macho and patriotic than John Kerry, who is also a tool but at least he got shot at a couple of times.

I can't stand true believers.

[shocker1]

I know what you mean it's all round bad. Can't win for losing as the saying goes. Should have pointed out my ranting was about the public in general. We all get dragged along in this game.

[Flagg]

I don't mean to sound like a moral relativist Shocker. I sincerely detest most politicians of either party. I just figure that when faced with the lesser of two evils you go for the one that can actually use their evil powers to our benefit. Calculated risk I suppose.

I know I pick at Sarah Palin a lot but I seriously can't believe that anyone found her smart enough to potentially run this country. I see all of the same political negatives in her that I see in Obama only she's stupid. How can that be better for the country?

Guys like **** Cheney, personal cowards that got 5 deferrments from going to Vietnam, are somehow more macho and patriotic than John Kerry, who is also a tool but at least he got shot at a couple of times.

I can't stand true believers.

I can't stand those in politics willing to lie, harm, or destroy placing their own personal ambitions and gain ahead of the better good and those they supposedly serve.

Sometimes I think the very REAL sacrifices required to "succeed" in politics filters out the very people who would actually produce the best results for society.

I feel like I'm in a lucid dream that's 2 parts Network, 1 part Stepford Wives, 3 parts Catch 22, and 5 parts Rollerball.

Sorry...I'm on this old movie kick.

The original Rollerball absolutely kicks @ss

[Gleipnir]

I can't stand those in politics willing to lie, harm, or destroy placing their own personal ambitions and gain ahead of the better good and those they supposedly serve.

Agreed.


Sometimes I think the very REAL sacrifices required to "succeed" in politics filters out the very people who would actually produce the best results for society.

Agreed.


The original Rollerball absolutely kicks @ss

Absolutely agree.

[WCF.KAS]

Exactly. This guy has been meticulously planning his rise in politics for years and years. I don't know why the fact that he's a real politician should seem so astounding to people that didn't have a problem with W being drunk till he was 40 and found Jesus.

Exactly, you think any black candidate running in Chicago none the less a black candidate with a muslim sounding name isn't gonna try to get support from the town's prominent black preachers.

[LineDoggie]

Exactly, you think any black candidate running in Chicago none the less a black candidate with a muslim sounding name isn't gonna try to get support from the town's prominent black preachers.

By attending Wright's Church since 1988 *for all those Years?

By Letting him marry them, by getting his kids Baptized by him

All a grand plot by 0bama to get support?



*http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546579,00.html


Face it guy, he was a Parishioner of Wrights and only threw him under the bus when it became politically untenable to keep him around.

[WCF.KAS]

By attending Wright's Church since 1988 *for all those Years?

By Letting him marry them, by getting his kids Baptized by him

All a grand plot by 0bama to get support?



*http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546579,00.html


Face it guy, he was a Parishioner of Wrights and only threw him under the bus when it became politically untenable to keep him around.

Well lets keep talking about Wright, because this issue worked so well last fall for the GOP last fall p-).

Even so, how do you think these deep connections to Wright have shaped Obama? I know.....3 years in to his first term he's gonna dawn a black beret and get into a shootout with DC cops on the whitehouse lawn shouting "kill whitey!!!"

So Obama's connections to wright make him some kind of dangerous half-black revolutionary?

[LineDoggie]

Well lets keep talking about Wright, because this issue worked so well last fall for the GOP last fall p-).

Even so, how do you think these deep connections to Wright have shaped Obama? I know.....3 years in to his first term he's gonna dawn a black beret and get into a shootout with DC cops on the whitehouse lawn shouting "kill whitey!!!"

So Obama's connections to wright make him some kind of dangerous half-black revolutionary?

Did I say that Einstein?

And by the way it's Don a Beret, not Dawn

[Zarak]

Did I say that Einstein?

And by the way it's Don a Beret, not Dawn

If I wasn't so lazy I'd photoshop a BLACK DAWN movie poster. But :effort:.

[WCF.KAS]

Did I say that Einstein?

And by the way it's Don a Beret, not Dawn

I misspelled a word, now let me go commit seppuku on Ichat.

Really though, I understand your beef with Wright, he's got those old school black liberation ideology traits that make him pretty unpalatable especially in today's racial climate.

But are you inferring that Obama secretly agrees with everything that comes out of his mouth?

Because unless that is that case, how is anything that Reverend Wright says relevant?

[pogue]

I know I pick at Sarah Palin a lot but I seriously can't believe that anyone found her smart enough to potentially run this country. I see all of the same political negatives in her that I see in Obama only she's stupid. How can that be better for the country?



Hey Joe, how many states have you governed? How many national elections have you navigated through? You don't get to where she got by being stupid.

Oh, and regarding Obama, there is a saying in spanish:

"disme con quien andas, y te dire quien eres" translation: "Tell me who you are walking with (or associating with), and I will tell you who you are."

[budgie]

Obama used Rev. Wright and his church to gain street cred with the black community in Chicago who initially saw him as an interloper from Hawaii/Harvard trying to tell them what to do.

The same way he used Tony Rezko, Alexi Giannoulias, the Pritzker family, etc.

As soon as any of these people become an inconvenience to him or an obstacle to the achievement of his ambitions, he dumps them. He's a politician. What did you expect?

I agree. As for Geezah's assertions that they'll resume their relationship 'in a few years', i Doubt it: It might one day be politically expedient to kiss and make up but that would probably involve Wright renouncing much of his former hate-speech. Under the present conditions, Obama has no need of a loudmouth like Wright.

[Soldat_Américain]

Hey Joe, how many states have you governed? How many national elections have you navigated through? You don't get to where she got by being stupid.

Oh, and regarding Obama, there is a saying in spanish:

"disme con quien andas, y te dire quien eres" translation: "Tell me who you are walking with (or associating with), and I will tell you who you are."
Dude, it's Alaska, you pretty much get paid to live there. And well, she was chosen to be the VP nominee to solidify McCain with the ultra-conservative part of the party...and yet even she had skeletons in the closet. And she would make a better blond than a brunette.

[California Joe]

Hey Joe, how many states have you governed? How many national elections have you navigated through? You don't get to where she got by being stupid.

Oh, and regarding Obama, there is a saying in spanish:

"disme con quien andas, y te dire quien eres" translation: "Tell me who you are walking with (or associating with), and I will tell you who you are."


At least I can tell you what magazines I read dontchaknow. She navigated her way from weather girl to Governor by political nepotism and backstabbing while wearing f*ck me pumps, in Alaska, the most politically crooked place in the country next to Chicago. And everytime someone calls her on her bullsh*t she claims she's being assaulted for being female and gets the vapors. Frankly, her own words prove her lack of fitness for anything. But don't stop believing.

I think Rev Wright is crazy as hell. But he's a Marine and they tend to do things 100%, no matter what it is. ;)

[Fat Lazy American]

Wait wait wait! False alarm, everyone!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23642.html

He meant to say "Zionists", not "Jews". No anti-Semitism here!

[Chulo]

Well lets keep talking about Wright, because this issue worked so well last fall for the GOP last fall p-).

Even so, how do you think these deep connections to Wright have shaped Obama? I know.....3 years in to his first term he's gonna dawn a black beret and get into a shootout with DC cops on the whitehouse lawn shouting "kill whitey!!!"

So Obama's connections to wright make him some kind of dangerous half-black revolutionary?


I misspelled a word, now let me go commit seppuku on Ichat.

Really though, I understand your beef with Wright, he's got those old school black liberation ideology traits that make him pretty unpalatable especially in today's racial climate.

But are you inferring that Obama secretly agrees with everything that comes out of his mouth?

Because unless that is that case, how is anything that Reverend Wright says relevant?
Secretly? who knows, but you dont sit around in a church for 15 years cause you like the music, it comes down to what they preach and the people. Does obama agree with EVERYTHING? im sure not, but he seems to agree with enough to have wanted to make friends, develop a strong and deep relationship and have Wright as a spiritual mentor.

Look at what Wright preaches, and compair that with what Ayers talks about, and you start to see that Obama has quite a few friends with the same undertone. And that is not by coincidink.

People will point something out, and others will ignore it. That is the freedom of speech, and eventually/hopefuly the ability to say "I told you so"