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seraosha
06-14-2009, 03:36 PM
link (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/14/cia-chief-says-cheney-wishing-attacked/)

WASHINGTON -- CIA Director Leon Panetta says former Vice President **** Cheney's criticism of the Obama administration's approach to terrorism almost suggests "he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point."

Panetta told The New Yorker for an article in its June 22 issue that Cheney "smells some blood in the water" on the issue of national security.
Cheney has said in several interviews that he thinks Obama is making the U.S. less safe. He has been critical of Obama for ordering the closure of the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, halting enhanced interrogations of suspected terrorists and reversing other Bush administration initiatives he says helped to prevent attacks on the U.S.
Last month the former vice president offered a withering critique of Obama's policies and a defense of the Bush administration on the same day that Obama made a major speech about national security.

Panetta said of Cheney's remarks: "It's almost, a little bit, gallows politics. When you read behind it, it's almost as if he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point. I think that's dangerous politics."

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Think what you may about Cheney, but he never struck me as a guy that wanted America to be attacked...I question Leon Panetta's suitability to be CIA Director if this is the kind of conclusions he's coming to about former Vice Presidents.

Alpheus
06-14-2009, 03:39 PM
Seems to me like someone can't take criticism.

Merfeller
06-14-2009, 03:46 PM
What a nice thing to say. Keepin' it classy as usual.

Mr Gently Benevolent
06-14-2009, 03:46 PM
Cheney is turning into a doom merchant and the companies on his portfolio do need a bit of conflict here and there to keep the dividends flowing.p-)

WCF.KAS
06-14-2009, 03:48 PM
link (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/14/cia-chief-says-cheney-wishing-attacked/)

WASHINGTON -- CIA Director Leon Panetta says former Vice President **** Cheney's criticism of the Obama administration's approach to terrorism almost suggests "he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point."

Panetta told The New Yorker for an article in its June 22 issue that Cheney "smells some blood in the water" on the issue of national security.
Cheney has said in several interviews that he thinks Obama is making the U.S. less safe. He has been critical of Obama for ordering the closure of the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, halting enhanced interrogations of suspected terrorists and reversing other Bush administration initiatives he says helped to prevent attacks on the U.S.
Last month the former vice president offered a withering critique of Obama's policies and a defense of the Bush administration on the same day that Obama made a major speech about national security.

Panetta said of Cheney's remarks: "It's almost, a little bit, gallows politics. When you read behind it, it's almost as if he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point. I think that's dangerous politics."

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Think what you may about Cheney, but he never struck me as a guy that wanted America to be attacked...I question Leon Panetta's suitability to be CIA Director if this is the kind of conclusions he's coming to about former Vice Presidents.

If we were attacked again though, who do you think would be on Fox saying "I told you so"?

Do I think Cheney is sitting in his lair hoping for a dirty bomb to go off in some US city? No, but his contention that Obama is making the country less safe would only be helped in the event of an attack.

Jobu
06-14-2009, 04:32 PM
I never knew Panetta was such a dirtbag. I'd have expected that kind of comment from Biden who is too stupid to know better but not from this guy.

Oh well, you learn something new every day.

I can't think of a name
06-14-2009, 05:20 PM
He was put in that position at the CIA for POLITICAL reasons.

The CIA has become a political entity the past few years with the the Democrats and their games.

Move it to Nebraska and the power hungry D.C. types will be less likely to get involved with it and will not seamlessly move between political jobs and the CIA.

See, someone like Panetta can still live in his Georgetown Mansion and work at the Hill, White House, K Street etc. AND the CIA.

Dan2004
06-14-2009, 05:41 PM
Cheney is turning into doom merchant and the companies on his portfolio do need a bit of conflict here and there to keep the dividends flowing.p-)

Well, war is good for business. :-(

khaz
06-14-2009, 06:05 PM
libtards have such thin skin.

NavyTimes
06-14-2009, 06:20 PM
Panetta is just saying what a whole lot of people is thinking, and it was good to hear it straight out from someone in position.

LineDoggie
06-14-2009, 06:26 PM
Those whole lot of people must'a forgot the last 8 years.

Fuschimuschi
06-14-2009, 06:51 PM
Panetta is just saying what a whole lot of people is thinking, and it was good to hear it straight out from someone in position.

Yup. Exactly.

FullMetalJackass
06-14-2009, 07:22 PM
Panetta is just saying what a whole lot of people is thinking, and it was good to hear it straight out from someone in position.


Is that how you people rationalize it?

Scriptable
06-14-2009, 07:34 PM
Cheney "smells some blood in the water" on the issue of national security.
Very apt phrase.

Scriptable
06-14-2009, 07:41 PM
Well, war is good for business. :-(

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2073/cheneytraitors.jpg

LineDoggie
06-14-2009, 08:26 PM
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.

An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.

He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.

A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."

Marcus Tullius Cicero
Roman Statesman, Philosopher and Orator
58B.C.

In a Senate Speech

Merfeller
06-14-2009, 11:01 PM
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.

An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.

He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.

A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."

Marcus Tullius Cicero
Roman Statesman, Philosopher and Orator
58B.C.

In a Senate Speech


And these, of course, are in reference to Nancy Pelosi?

Albatross
06-14-2009, 11:06 PM
Cheney is a ****ing crook, always has been always will be. That son of a bitch is no good.

Dan2004
06-14-2009, 11:14 PM
Cheney is a ****ing crook, always has been always will be. That son of a bitch is no good.

X2

Money first, America second.

Unfortunately, there's a sh*tload more on both sides of the aisle that are just like him. :-(

budgie
06-14-2009, 11:42 PM
Firstly saying Cheney "almost wishes" there would be an attack is not a direct accusation - it merely serves to point out the fervor with which he insists America is in constant danger.

He was singing the same tune all through the '04 election. Now the hounds are after him on torture and other shady dealings and he no longer has the protection of the VP spot to shield him, he's out there in the media trying to drum up as much support for his twisted Machiavellian policies as he can.

He may not want to see America attacked (he'll say because of Obama's policies) but should such a thing occur - even a low-level terror plot against US forces or interests abroad - he'll welcome the opportunity to say "I told you so." Not a few retards will even believe him...

Jacknola
06-15-2009, 12:11 AM
re" "Retards believing him...[Chaney]"

I'm curious....if the US is attacked again... say with WMD, poison gas in subways, or some such, just who would YOU believe should be held accountable? I would bet lots of money that Pelosi, Obama et. al. would be on TV immediately finding a way to blame Pres. Bush and VP Chaney for that attack, something they did NOT do to Pres. Clinton and his sordid "policies." Are you one of those types?.

I ask... if there is a horrible murderous attack who SHOULD "the retards" blame?... What about a lefty, anti-US history... administration who has a surfett of people who seem to have made a fetish of scraping and bowing to Iran and Saudi Arabia, de-horning and de-motivating the CIA, threatening to prosecute agents for protecting the US, after selectively releasing memos and data criminalizing agents, revealing their sources.. People such as Sen. Boxer who reveals the location of secret bases supporting our UAVs, etc....

If we are attacked again... more than isolated incidents, help me understand... just who would you say empowered and helped the terrorists? Cheney or Obama?

To my mind it requires a really obtuse mentality to somehow blame those who resist terror and aggression for that terror and aggression... but somehow, I think you would find a way. It still amazes my how after the tragic end in Vietnam, some lefty kooks, especially in the media, never did face up to their supporting role in the horror. Instead, they rationalized and somehow blamed Nixon for the millions killed in Cambodia, millions murdered and driven from Vietnam in small boats, and millions more held for decades in "reeducation camps... and 30 million people condemed to live in a backward totalitarian gangster-dictatorship.

Truth is, the same people who brought you Pol Pot and the reeducation camps and the boat people, if given a chance will bring millions killed in the middle east reprisals, world wide refugees, thousands dead in terror attacks in the US... and STILL somehow find a way to blame those who tried to stop it.

If you somehow believe that VP Chaney has some financial interest in resisting terror, you are just being a fool. It takes a SPECIAL fool to believe the contorted logic that makes George Bush's destruction of Saddam Hussain and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan a National tragedy schemed for finacial gain.

To the causual observer, the democrats are the ones who seem to violate all the conflict of interest laws, loot the white house of furniture, run the streets with rogue billionaires, accept contributions from dodgy sources overseas, refuse to reveal essential documents...such as their military records or birth certificates, don't pay taxes, take the fifth in front of Congress, "can't remember where the law records are," etc.


As Orwell said in Animal Farm, baaaaaa baaaaaa baaaaaaa..... Orwell was way ahead of his time.

deagle
06-15-2009, 12:21 AM
cheney's a funny guy.

budgie
06-15-2009, 01:11 AM
Look, sooner or later America WILL be attacked again. Whether it happens at home or abroad, to tourists, US interests, an embassy or a military installation, some crazies are going to have a go. It is inevitable and comes with being the world's only superpower with fingers in so many cookie jars. There have been crazies who hate America for generations now and that's not going to change overnight.

So for Cheney to come out and say that Obama makes America weaker and encourages attacks is superfluous. America encourages attacks Comes with the territory when you're 'world policeman' and so on. When it happens, saying "I told you so" is as conceited as telling us "I told you t was gonna rain sooner or later".

Cheney doesn't need a following on this because he's only stating the obvious. And if and when he does come out with "I told you so! Weak democratic presidents invite terror attacks!" plenty of retards WILL jump on the bandwagon because they don't want to put it in historical perspective: America has been attacked under every president in the last 30 years, 'weak' or 'strong'.

KVLG
06-15-2009, 02:06 AM
Well, war is good for business. :-(

I was under the impression that Halliburton wasn't making much, if any, profit in Iraq.

KVLG
06-15-2009, 02:07 AM
Cheney is a ****ing crook, always has been always will be. That son of a bitch is no good.

In what way?

Mr Gently Benevolent
06-15-2009, 02:25 AM
I ask... if there is a horrible murderous attack who SHOULD "the retards" blame?... What about a lefty, anti-US history... administration who has a surfett of people who seem to have made a fetish of scraping and bowing to Iran and Saudi Arabia,Lets be honest here the last administration took hard up the chuff from the Saudi's :roll:

Skutatos
06-15-2009, 02:31 AM
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2073/cheneytraitors.jpg

Yeah, since Cheney comes oh so close to the **** that Lincoln was referring to.

"Copperheads", war profiteering worse then at any other time in our history, inferior equipment being supplied by contractors, such as uniforms that fell apart in just days, shoes made from cardboard instead of leather, defective equipment of just about every sort in fact...Cheney has done nothing close to this.

avedis
06-15-2009, 04:24 AM
If his claim is true then one can come away thinking the dems wanted the war to be lost. You know.... to say hey see I told you "this war is lost".
F 'in retarded! I say.
Anyway Mr.Panetta is not as bad as I thought he was going to be. Let us moveon.org please.

XShipRider
06-15-2009, 06:23 AM
If we're attacked it is President Obama's fault plain and simple. Before anyone accuses me of being a President Bush toady remember this -- 9/11 was "all Bush's fault" when he had mere months in office to unravel a plot which took years to hatch. Fair is fair.

Frankly, if we are again hit with a major attack it'll be due to the cellular or disjointed nature of the information. Post analysis will show all the signs were there but no one managed to put it all together ... except the post event analyst politicians who will, with their amazing 20-20 hindsight, immediately begin to sling mud. Sound familiar?

If it follows all previous plots/attacks the one key bit of information will have been brought up to high level officials (political or intelligentsia, it doesn't matter) only to be dismissed or disregarded. That will be the smoking gun which proves the current regime was; a) complicit, or b) incompetent.

Connaught Ranger
06-15-2009, 09:00 AM
Almost, never cut the cheese.