Infantryman of the Future - IdZ

[seventy6er]

Hi guys,

I know most of these pics have been posted before, but I wanted to share them cause it's a new month and I got quite a lot traffic left ;)

I will take the pics down in 1 or 2 days again. Have fun.


Those are pics of equipment of the system "IdZ - Infanterist der Zukunft" (future infantryman). The system is already in service with our army, around 160 units have been fielded so far and are being tested in Kosovo and Afghanistan.

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_01.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_02.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_03.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_04.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_06.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_07.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_08.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_09.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_10.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_11.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_12.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_13.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_14.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_15.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_16.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_17.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_18.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_19.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_20.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_21.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_22.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_23.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_24.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_25.jpg

[Ratamacue]

Seems to be alot simpler than systems like Force Warrior (US). No cameras and excessive gizmos really with this system. I like it.

[Jack Mehoff]

You need an A+ and Network+ certifications to be an infantryman nowaday.

[seventy6er]

Seems to be alot simpler than systems like Force Warrior (US). No cameras and excessive gizmos really with this system. I like it.

There are different stages of this system, the pics showing the first stage to be fielded from 2003 to 2008. The next stage will include stuff like helmet-cameras and so on.

[Hullebullen]

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_04.jpg

I wonder if he can pick up any x-rated channels on that small dish of his... :lol:

[Harlequin]

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_23.jpg


Hopefully the German Forces will buy the new H&K UCP to complement the MP7 or the squad leader is the only one having a weapon chambered in 4.6mm. At least the other group members can exchange their ammo and now the group is carrying three different kinds of ammo with them.

Disturbing thought that is ... :|

[ArmedPacifist]

They look like they've got a good system, hope it works out.

[Navy]

I have heard that the US wanted to buy the swedish future soldier system (MARKUS), but they were turned down.

Have anyone else heard this?

[DPGLAW]

Please point out where I am wrong If that is the case but this German Future warrior system looks alot like the infantryman's system that countries like ours (the USA) use today. Our future warrior system looks very futuristic and has capabilities that really seem to put it far ahead of anyone else's (if we ever get it working, which takes time). Basically, what im asking is what makes this German Future warrior system so futuristic? It seems to have capabilities that are used in the present day.

I am surprised at this too because of the excellent quality and innovative thinking in development of products by the German company, H&K

[Lt_Crooks]

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_16.jpg


^ Germany's new UAV woot

[Fioraon]

Please point out where I am wrong If that is the case but this German Future warrior system looks alot like the infantryman's system that countries like ours (the USA) use today. Our future warrior system looks very futuristic and has capabilities that really seem to put it far ahead of anyone else's (if we ever get it working, which takes time). Basically, what im asking is what makes this German Future warrior system so futuristic? It seems to have capabilities that are used in the present day.

I am surprised at this too because of the excellent quality and innovative thinking in development of products by the German company, H&K

Surprised? Come on, they are Germans!

[stuntman]

this is all old news but cool..
I love the body armor but I sure hope Germany stops making body armor for peace keeping for the otv looks bulky and cumbersome!

[DPGLAW]

UAV....thats not Germany' new UAV; it's thier new top of the line, state of the art, advanced tatical fighter....lol Didn't ya knw, it's much mroe advanced than the Raptor....lolamazingly, it's supercruise allows it to fly at a constant 35mph.... :)

[anonymous individual]

Some many photos! Great stuff! woot

[Fioraon]

UAV....thats not Germany' new UAV; it's thier new top of the line, state of the art, advanced tatical fighter....lol Didn't ya knw, it's much mroe advanced than the Raptor....lolamazingly, it's supercruise allows it to fly at a constant 35mph.... :)

I'd like to see it do an outside loop. :lol:

[WolverineBlue]

Kommen Sie hier mit den Hosen in der Hand!!!! :P

[stuntman]

Kommen Sie hier mit den Hosen in der Hand!!!! :P
Do you have a lil bitty mustache?

[Kitsune]

Actually DPGLAW, Germany is actually aknowledged to be a leader now with this "Soldier of Tommorrow" stuff. Although they were the last to begin thinking about it, they were the first to show results. And "Land Warrior" has even been changed along lines akin to the German System (originally it was "Army of One"...now it is "Land Warrior - Stryker based" like IdZ was centered from the start around a 10 soldier combat team, deployed from a APC which are all seen as part of the system).
Ironically, this all seems to be the result of Germanies lower budgets...it led to realism, where as the American LandWarrior got lost a bit with its try to include fanciful stuff.

What is new? Well, basically there has a reworking of the infantery gear been done, to make it lighter. Then there is group radio communication, GPS, and a personal PDA. (And some more computer stuff for the team leader). And that is certainly more than what every American grunt is using right now. Of course, its less than Land Warrior intended...but that is the point. To have a system that is working NOW. (It is fielded from 2005 on).
Other features, like targeting computers, head-up display, multifuctional lasers and such things, will be added in the future. The idea (like Landwarrior) is to have an step by step advancement to something what the US army calls "objective warrior" (and beyond I think...this technology is just beginning).

In any case: What the Germans do, the Americans, French, British, Swedish...observe. And from what the Americans field, the Swedish, British, French and Germans learn. In the end those sytems will look quite similiar, I suppose. After all...everyone wants to sell his stuff to Poland. Hopefully they pay more than 1 € this time, the stingy lot. p-)

[Ratamacue]

The US has simplified Land Warrior quite a bit to be much like IdZ and other next-generation soldier systems. The more advanced portions that were originally going to be included (cameras and all that ****) are going into Objective Force Warrior, which is going to be fielded later on, after 2010 most likely.

[Biodegradation]

Kommen Sie hier mit den Hosen in der Hand!!!! :P

why only pants?

[memphiz]

Great pics seventy6er
http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_23.jpg
On these guys pants is this two different types of flectarn? or is the pattern that random?

[Bulkowski]

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_16.jpg
Original caption: War is hell!

[ZeroPositive]

cool photos :)

[RS_Leo1A5]

On these guys pants is this two different types of flectarn? or is the pattern that random?
Well, Flecktarn camo can look very different from production on.
Sometimes there is more brown in it, another time more green...
Add bleaching effects trough sunlight or washing and you won't find two BDUs that look the same.
Plus, over the years there was some experimenting with the BDUs. E.g. in this picture you can see that the second soldier has a small pocket on his right arm while the first one hasn't - depending on when the blouse was manufactured this pocket will be either on the right or the left arm.

(Furthermore, as this picture shows unit patches with velcro are not a new idea to the German army... ;) )

[MaxPayne]

is the regular infantry getting the mp7 and if yes when and when do they get the mg 4

[Harlequin]

is the regular infantry getting the mp7 and if yes when and when do they get the mg 4
The regular is not supposed to get the MP7. It is destined for the squad leader of each IdZ- equipped group and as defense weapon for air and vehicle crews. Also it is said the body guards in Afghanistan as well as german military police use the weapon while the KSK uses it more offensive. However it has not leaked through how it performed.

The MG4 is already being handed over to the troops in small quantities.

[Thomsen]

Please point out where I am wrong If that is the case but this German Future warrior system looks alot like the infantryman's system that countries like ours (the USA) use today.

Correct me if I´m wrong, but instead of other countries, the german IdZ is in use today, and NOT only in so-called "special forces"... :roll:

[oldsoak]

I must buy shares in a battery manufacturer. Looking at that lot its going to be at least 10 AA's per man per day . :)

[Hellman109]

Whats futureistic is that they ALL have body armour! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I really dont see anything new cept for there paper aeroplane come UAV. That thing doesnt look like it folds down though, and I see no optics to see what it sees (a PDA screen wouldnt be that great).

The aerial at head height I dont like, you can duck your head, but an antenna popping up (as your not going to be concious of it) would be bad...

The camo also does nothing tobreak up the human form, pitty there, that would help allot.

It also seems that there better suited to CT roles to me, not military (cept for teh MG36's)

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_19.jpg
Wouldnt the knife that high be a bit of a pain? if someone ruseh at you, to grab it you would need to bring your arm right up, exposing your whole torso.....

[deutschersoldat]

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_16.jpg

do you know more about this little flying thin??


i only know this system, its called "aladin":

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256ced00519415c1256982003b7e87/53e4b18d2327bb8bc1256db800251eaf/body/0.BC2?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

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[seventy6er]

it will be issued to parts of the german infantry from 2004 - 2007 (systems for 1.200 infantry groups --> 12.000 soldiers).
just some facts about the system:

- new BDU's (overall with integrated ABC-protection)

- modular carrying-system with PALS and camelbag

- modular ballistic-vest (basic-version has protection-class 1, can be upgraded via ceramic-inserts to class 4; class-4-vest only weighs 19lb)

- anti-frag-goggles with integrated UV-, dust- and laserprotection

- new communication-media (integrated into vest): new radios on group-basis (range 700mtrs in bulit-up-areas/4.000 mtrs in open field) for every soldier, new GPS for every soldier, PDA for every soldier

- new binoculars for every soldier (with integrated laser-rangefinder and digital magnet-compass) with bluetooth-interface for the PDA's

- new 4th-generation NVG which enable the soldier to read texts (range 15cm up to 250mtrs), night-vision-adapters for the G36K's, laser-light-modules, surefires, thermal imaging/targeting-devices (2 per group)

- weapons: G36k's and MP7 PDW, 3 AG36 per group; there will be cal .50 barretts available for each group; as soon as the new HK MG43 (bundeswehr internal name MG4) will be issued, it will be the groups SAW; MG3 will remain (7.62 rocks)

[MaxPayne]

is the regular infantry getting the mp7 and if yes when and when do they get the mg 4
The regular is not supposed to get the MP7. It is destined for the squad leader of each IdZ- equipped group and as defense weapon for air and vehicle crews. Also it is said the body guards in Afghanistan as well as german military police use the weapon while the KSK uses it more offensive. However it has not leaked through how it performed.

The MG4 is already being handed over to the troops in small quantities.

cool thank you

[W(M)D]

Great photos, but at the end of the day, the 'business' still comes down to the quality of the soldier himself.
These equipment concepts take for ever to become adopted.

[israeli dude]

israel allso working on its "Future Infantry Warrior Program":
here about the program (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/tavor/oicw.htm)

[Biodegradation]

israel allso working on its "Future Infantry Warrior Program":
here about the program (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/tavor/oicw.htm)

I am always wondering what the camo net on a israeli soldier`head is used for. :oops:
maybe you can give me the answer :roll:

[W(M)D]

Breaks up the helmet outline curve, there are'nt many bushes in that part of the world so the twig/walking bush method dont work too well.

By the way, 'Mr Future Soldier' will need a mini electric power generator for all the equipment systems he will have working off his body :lol:

[Harlequin]

Whats futureistic is that they ALL have body armour!
All Soldiers who will be equipped with the IdZ- System will receive this body armor. This does not mean that the entire army will be equipped and neither does it mean that all service men and women who are not on a mission will have to have one either.

I really dont see anything new cept for there paper aeroplane come UAV. That thing doesnt look like it folds down though, and I see no optics to see what it sees (a PDA screen wouldnt be that great).
It is the Dornier Do-MAW destined for urban short range reccon for the squad. A stealthy reccon vehicle. In light grey you can hardly spot it as soon as its airborne and if so can be easily mistaken for a bird. It has an endurance of 15 minutes for around 2km range, an inbuild black/white camera and GPS and weighs 200g. Btw, the operator does have a ground station to "see what it sees". The cameras are in the center fuselage.

The aerial at head height I dont like, you can duck your head, but an antenna popping up (as your not going to be concious of it) would be bad...
Agreed. It can be fixed to the vest so that won't happen.

The camo also does nothing tobreak up the human form, pitty there, that would help allot.
Your from the US or Canada? Canada surely pioniered the field of digital camo and that really rocks, however no camo pattern really breaks up the human sillouette when you stand only a couple of metres away and judging this camo based on pictures is not sufficient for it's effectiveness.

It also seems that there better suited to CT roles to me, not military (cept for teh MG36's)
Care to explain? It is an G36 and a MG4 btw. No MG36 in that group.

By the way, 'Mr Future Soldier' will need a mini electric power generator for all the equipment systems he will have working off his body
That is a problem that is becoming more urgent in the future. To solve this each group operates closely together with a base vehicle called "Mothership" which stores all equipment that is not needed right away which has a generator to recharge the batteries. This will either be a container mounted on a regular utility vehicle, a Bv206 or if it gets bought the GTK Boxer.

[israeli dude]

israel allso working on its "Future Infantry Warrior Program":
here about the program (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/tavor/oicw.htm)

I am always wondering what the camo net on a israeli soldier`head is used for. :oops:
maybe you can give me the answer :roll:

here (http://www.isayeret.com/camo/guide.htm)

[McLane]

A friend of mine saw the IdZ in action, and it works very well - and works now very well ;) Some Groups were equipted with that system in 2003 ind 2004 - in the futurer there will be more troops like this. It is also tested in kosovo and a-stan - and the soldiers were happy with that!

Nice Pics at all (old but good ;)) :)

[He219]

Nice Pics at all (old but good ;)) :)

Not the one's you'll see Here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18761&start=16) ....
:D

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[Freibier]

Nice Pics at all (old but good ;)) :)

Not the one's you'll see Here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18761&start=16) ....
:D

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256ced00519415c1256982003b7e87/811533c735ff1abec1256ebd002691a9/Body/4.2538?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=gif
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Boah,
thanks HE219 woot woot

[Pille1234]

Thanks
http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW3/he219-001.jpg
you're really in-depth with pictures woot



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Btw is this the Panzerfaust upgrade?

[Freibier]

Yes, it is.
It's called DYNARANGE.
High first hit probability and practical engagement range upped from 300 to 600 metres.

[baker]

http://www.n24.de/images/2004/07/01/zoom_2004070116430186301.jpg
http://www.n24.de/images/2004/07/01/zoom_2004070118030486611.jpg
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[LongWay]

infantry men of the future use MG-34's? Wow real up to date :P.

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_13.jpg

[deutschersoldat]

Yes, it is.
It's called DYNARANGE.
High first hit probability and practical engagement range upped from 300 to 600 metres.

the panzerfaust 3 is now by far the best non guided anti tank weapon in the world

[He219]

Yes, it is.
It's called DYNARANGE.
High first hit probability and practical engagement range upped from 300 to 600 metres.

the panzerfaust 3 is now by far the best non guided anti tank weapon in the world

PzFst3-IT-600 version therof, farthest precision indeed.
:D

[sudden_strike]

All your base are belong to us!

And all your armies are now pussy buttonpushers.

[mrfloppy]

infantry men of the future use MG-34's? Wow real up to date :P.

Actually, it's not a MG 34, but a modified MG 42 in 7.62x51 - called MG 3. The Troops will receive the new H&K MG4 in 5.56x45 but the MG3 apparently will stay in service.

The MG 3 used to be my weapon, when I was in the army and I never had any trouble doing my job with it.

[Freibier]

infantry men of the future use MG-34's? Wow real up to date :P.

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_13.jpg
German machineguns killed far more people than any other machinegun to the present day :P
Why fix something that aint broke?

[LordHalbert]

I think the most important thing with all this high-tech stuff is the ability for soldiers to communicate with each other.

From what I understand, some US soldiers in Iraq are using commericial off-the-shelf Motorola walkie-talkies. I'm not sure if this is because of shortages of equipment or because the military stuff is inadequate. Seems sort of risky to use unencrypted or weakly encrypted communication gear.

[Harlequin]

infantry men of the future use MG-34's? Wow real up to date
@ Longway

As mrfloppy pointed it is an excellent weapon even today. The 7.62mm is providing the group with quiet some bunch, it is extremely reliable - especially in comparison with the failed american copy of the MG34 :roll:. It will be replaced on the squad level with the H&K MG4 but will remain vehicle mounted for some time to come.
There is simply no better MG in this calibre.

[ZeroPositive]

er how heavy is the MG3 I held the MG42 in my arms all day and it was really heavy after a days use... yes call me a wimp :)

[LongWay]

infantry men of the future use MG-34's? Wow real up to date :P.

Actually, it's not a MG 34, but a modified MG 42 in 7.62x51 - called MG 3. The Troops will receive the new H&K MG4 in 5.56x45 but the MG3 apparently will stay in service.

The MG 3 used to be my weapon, when I was in the army and I never had any trouble doing my job with it.

Didn't say it was a bad weapon look at the AKM, AKS yeah the MG-42 was the best MG in WW2 well the germans had the best guns,tanks,aircraft well everything :) germans had very nice officers just their soldiers weren't too great.

[Hellman109]

The camo also does nothing tobreak up the human form, pitty there, that would help allot.
Your from the US or Canada? Canada surely pioniered the field of digital camo and that really rocks, however no camo pattern really breaks up the human sillouette when you stand only a couple of metres away and judging this camo based on pictures is not sufficient for it's effectiveness.

It also seems that there better suited to CT roles to me, not military (cept for teh MG36's)
Care to explain? It is an G36 and a MG4 btw. No MG36 in that group.


So the pattern works with a bit of range then? I presumed because it was far from old camo that it would help, but wasnt sure.

Pic below looks like MG36's at there feet... might be wrong :/
http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_13.jpg
The Bipod, extra fins on the barrel for cooling, and the box of ammo made me think it was. I said MG36 as there already using G36's, so using a MG36 would make sense.

[tony6]

n any case: What the Germans do, the Americans, French, British, Swedish...observe. And from what the Americans field, the Swedish, British, French and Germans learn. In the end those sytems will look quite similiar, I suppose. After all...everyone wants to sell his stuff to Poland. Hopefully they pay more than 1 € this time, the stingy lot.
You mean the selling the equipment of "future soldier" to us?
Somehow I don't think so. I read thet our military industry is to set the similar program on our own. We'll see.

BTW: we did hell of a business with Your MiGs and Leos :D

[aeternum]

Pictures from the official bundeswehr page:

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[Shadow]

Awesome aeternum!

[McLane]

Wish the pics were a little bit bigger :|

[moughoun]

Ya the Lucie nvg's are excellent, we bought them after the Bundeswher let us test them, thank's lad's :hug:

[seventy6er]

Ya the Lucie nvg's are excellent, we bought them after the Bundeswher let us test them, thank's lad's :hug:

Who is WE?? Where're ya from?

[moughoun]

Ya the Lucie nvg's are excellent, we bought them after the Bundeswher let us test them, thank's lad's :hug:

Who is WE?? Where're ya from?

Irish Defence Forces, Ireland ;)

[talib_killa34]

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/idz/idz_13.jpg


Gadaamn, German troops could not look or be MORE BAD ASS

[Shadow]

Seems to be alot simpler than systems like Force Warrior (US). No cameras and excessive gizmos really with this system. I like it.

btw i attached a IR Laser Diode to my tuned P8 AirSoft Pistol and build a small IR Vision Device out of the mini (2x2cm) CRT tube out of a VHSC Camera. I added a small camera module to my P8 and everything works fine. The most expensiv part is the camera module, for short range you can use the IR Diode from a CD Writer or something.

http://www.gbppr.dyndns.org/PROJ/mil/nightv/night.gif

[RS_Leo1A5]

er how heavy is the MG3 I held the MG42 in my arms all day and it was really heavy after a days use... yes call me a wimp :)
IIRC a MG3 weighs 11.5kg - including bipod, excluding ammo.

[Shadow]

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256ced00519415c1256982003b7e87/7a1a336a08960e15c1256ec5002df0b9/Body/0.39F0?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

A high res version of this pic would be awesome! :)

[deutschersoldat]

the idz system is great p-)

[Teh Little Space Monkeh]

This is what the Landwarrior system looks like, jsut substitute the G36 for an XM8 and the camo for ours. The substituting the g36 for the XM-8 is the easy part. :D

[deutschersoldat]

i dont think so

[Pille1234]

This is what the Landwarrior system looks like, jsut substitute the G36 for an XM8 and the camo for ours. The substituting the g36 for the XM-8 is the easy part. :D
What's actually the current status of landwarrior? Are there any (real life) field tests or is it already introduced? Does anybody have up to date pictures?

[Ratamacue]

This is what the Landwarrior system looks like, jsut substitute the G36 for an XM8 and the camo for ours. The substituting the g36 for the XM-8 is the easy part. :D
What's actually the current status of landwarrior? Are there any (real life) field tests or is it already introduced? Does anybody have up to date pictures?
http://upload.sh0t.com/stuff/OBJ%20Land%20Warrior%205.jpg
http://upload.sh0t.com/stuff/OBJ%20Land%20Warrior%206.jpg

I believe it's going to be fielded sometime soon with the Stryker Brigades.

[ShadowNeo]

Looks like a very nice program :).


The UK's simmilar program is known as FIST (Future Integrated Soldier Technology), but there isn't much information around about it at the moment. The company Thales is involved in the program, which was also involved in the idz program:



Thales has been selected by the UK MoD, as one of two contenders, to enter the next phase of the FIST (Future Integrated Soldier Technology) programme. This planning phase will encompass extensive detailing of the methodologies, processes and technologies that will be used to ensure the successful low risk delivery of FIST systems to the British Army. FIST will be a key enabler on the future battlefield, bringing the advantages of digitisation to the individual soldier. Equipping the section with an integrated suite of FIST systems will greatly enhance its effectiveness in key capability areas of C4I (communications and situational awareness), lethality (weapons and sighting systems), sustainability (logistics), survivability (body armour and stealth) and mobility (weight and navigation).
Potential equipment under consideration includes thermal weapon sights, night vision, helmet-mounted/head-up tactical displays, GPS navigation and radio communications. Final equipment selection will be based on the conclusive evidence of increased effectiveness derived from the forthcoming 3-year assessment phase, commencing in 2003.

Thales has active involvement in all of the major soldier modernisation programmes around the world including the USA's Land Warrior, France's FELIN, Normans in Norway and IdZ in Germany. The success of the Thales FIST bid at this crucial stage is further evidence of the company's demonstrable expertise in soldier modernisation and builds upon the experience gained during the FIST technology demonstration phase for which Thales was the prime contractor.

Steve Turner, project director of Thales FIST, expressed his enthusiasm for the announcement: "Thales has been committed to meeting the needs of the MoD since the inception of the FIST programme. We've made a tremendous commitment to FIST and believe that our systems integration expertise and partnering approach with the customer has been key in this selection. Thales possesses a proven capability, understanding of the roles and requirements of the dismounted soldier and in depth knowledge of the key technologies needed to deliver FIST on time and within budget."

Thales Defence's activities encompass optronics, air defence, sensors, communications, naval systems and avionics. The company is the UK's second largest defence contractor, having been a supplier to the MoD, since the First World War. Thales now draws together under one unifying brand name, businesses including Racal, Thomson Marconi Sonar, Shorts Missile Systems, Thorn, Avimo and Pilkington Optronics. Employing 65,000 people in almost 50 countries, Thales has 12,000 staff in the UK. In 2001, Thales global revenues were £6.8 billion.


http://www.thalesfist.com/images/details.jpg

[McLane]

Are there any new weapons for the FIST-Soldiers? I mean, the SA80 is not longer up-to-date, isn't it? I heared that many Rifles were upgraded by Heckler&Koch in the last years? But is that your future Weapon?

[ShadowNeo]

The system is still very much in its initial stages, and from what I've read it isn't going to be implemented in even a small form until around 2008-09, so there is still a while for the design of new weapons.

You can read more about the project at www.ThalesFist.com

[Catch22]

Since it seems IDZ topic turned into a general "Future/Digital Soldier" topic here it goes guys: straight from EUROSATORY 2004. New SAAB project of swedish future infantryman in urban digital camo (REMOV can you ID this gun form me? Some new PDW project or just a mock-up?)

http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v179/Catch22/11070027.jpg

http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v179/Catch22/11070028.jpg

[/img]

[chucky555]

I've trained with the German Infantry before. Believe me, they sure aren't a Prussian-disciplined army anymore. They train and act just as badly as the French. I've worked with the English, Poles and in Iraq and have nothing but respect for their professionalism and bravery.

[Shadow]

I've trained with the German Infantry before. Believe me, they sure aren't a Prussian-disciplined army anymore. They train and act just as badly as the French. I've worked with the English, Poles and in Iraq and have nothing but respect for their professionalism and bravery.

BUT we beat your asses in CAT no matter how bad we are! rofl :petting:
:P ;)

[grabie_bis]

spanish SoF in an early stage two years ago;

http://www.ejercito.mde.es/publicaciones/bitierra/2003/t-89/sold2.jpg

http://www.ejercito.mde.es/publicaciones/bitierra/2003/t-89/sold1.jpg

http://www.antena3.com/a3n/a3n_contenidos/contenidos/3/3/omngd1219-01102.jpg

http://www.antena3.com/a3n/a3n_contenidos/contenidos/3/3/omngd1219-00275.jpg

[Kitsune]

chucky555:

Simple "Prussian Discipline" was not the secret of the Wehrmachts fighting power.
As far as sympathies go its funny that you reserve them for exactly those who partook in OIF.
I served quite a few years in the German army, and according to my experience our soldiers are ok. French soldiers I met were good, and certainly on par with the British. This whole talk of the French being sissies is just crap, propaganda of a certain interest group in the US.
And all of them, German, French and British can definitly hold their own against American soldiers. Considering the quality of your fellow soldiers you have absolutely no reason to believe, that you were a race of supersoldiers.

[He219]

Kitsune, you display the same pompous disaffections that you recuse others of having.

http://www.oberpfalznetz.de/dpa_images/Bundeswehr_6566860.onlineBild.jpghttp://www.sueddeutschezeitung.de/deutschland/artikel/625/34591/image_fmabspic_0_0.jpg

;)

[Kitsune]

Maybe. But in contrast to them I am right. p-)

[Thomsen]

More pictures here:

http://www.deutschesheer.de/C1256B6C002D670C/CurrentBaseLink/N262HCNS484RHAHDE

[Pille1234]

More pictures here:

http://www.deutschesheer.de/C1256B6C002D670C/CurrentBaseLink/N262HCNS484RHAHDE
Why the hell are those pics always that small? Someone give them a private lesson in public relations pls :bash:

[Thomsen]

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256ced00519415c1256982003b7e87/b463dd684987ac21c1256ec5003228bd/Body/0.29B2?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg
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[Freibier]

More pictures here:

http://www.deutschesheer.de/C1256B6C002D670C/CurrentBaseLink/N262HCNS484RHAHDE
Why the hell are those pics always that small? Someone give them a private lesson in public relations pls :bash:
it's just to keep the chinese copykats challenged :P

Just kiddin p-)

[moughoun]

The Boxer alway'sremind'sme of the movie Alien's for some reason p-)

[Pille1234]

The Boxer alway'sremind'sme of the movie Alien's for some reason p-)
Really?
Well yes, looks similar
http://www.spaceart.de/Artikel/al074-a.jpg









oh how stupid of me p-)



http://www.spaceart.de/Artikel/al074-g.jpg

[Thomsen]

http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/01.jpg
http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/02.jpg
http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/03.jpg
http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/04.jpg
http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/05.jpg
http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/06.jpg
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http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/10.jpg
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http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/15.jpg

[Deep6]

This is what the Landwarrior system looks like, jsut substitute the G36 for an XM8 and the camo for ours. The substituting the g36 for the XM-8 is the easy part. :D
What's actually the current status of landwarrior? Are there any (real life) field tests or is it already introduced? Does anybody have up to date pictures?
http://upload.sh0t.com/stuff/OBJ%20Land%20Warrior%205.jpg
http://upload.sh0t.com/stuff/OBJ%20Land%20Warrior%206.jpg

I believe it's going to be fielded sometime soon with the Stryker Brigades.

The Landwarrior system has a very interesting history! I am not aware of any websites that have concise detail of the overall project. Guess you just had to be there. ;) My involvment ended at Landwarrior v1.0, however, I noticed from the posted pics that they are still using the forward mounted peg-grip hardware that I designed. I have some older pics of the Landwarrior system that I may be able to post if anyone is interested in seeing them. (Need to create a gallery account or something to post pics)? I have enjoyed this website especially the photos & video section. I am always mindful of the comments given to soldier advancement technologies (especially when the comments come from guys that have really been there). I appreciate the military service and the sacrifices soldiers make...keep up the good work! And try to be patient with us gizzmo nerds that seem to always be adding weight to your packs, some of the best soldier items no doubt came from some pretty outrageous beginnings!

[deutschersoldat]

http://www.n24.de/php-bin/data/cgalerie/content/n24_nachrichten_de_040709_soldat_der_zukunft/12.jpg

are they from ksk, because they use the agf?

[Kitsune]

are they from ksk, because they use the agf?
No, they are not from KSK.

[Pille1234]

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer01.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer02.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer04.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer12.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer05.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer06.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer03.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer11.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer09.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer07.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer08.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer10.jpg

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer13.jpg

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http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/CD3D674B75DFEA0DC1256ECC003D779F/$file/bmw_fahrt_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/CD3D674B75DFEA0DC1256ECC003D779F/$file/bmw_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/CD3D674B75DFEA0DC1256ECC003D779F/$file/bmw_detail_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/CD3D674B75DFEA0DC1256ECC003D779F/$file/bmw_parcour_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/CD3D674B75DFEA0DC1256ECC003D779F/$file/eskorte_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/AC20E3A7A5DD9912C1256ECC00394458/$file/ktm_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/AC20E3A7A5DD9912C1256ECC00394458/$file/ktm_wueste_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/AC20E3A7A5DD9912C1256ECC00394458/$file/ktm_wald_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/C1CD54ECEE165234C1256EBE0029907A/$file/formation_600.jpg

http://www.streitkraeftebasis.de/C1256C290043532F/CurrentBaseLink/C1CD54ECEE165234C1256EBE0029907A/$file/eskorte_600.jpg

[Dutchman2]

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer01.jpg


Finaly some new armour from my country
woot :hug:

[Pille1234]

Finaly some new armour from my country
woot :hug:
More important: some new armour FOR your country :D

[Freibier]

Great Pics Pille ! woot

[Freeman]

@ thomsen
nice pics, where are they taken?

[AVZ]

take your mouse *rightclick* *features*
and you will be given what ya want


It's from the TV-news channel N24N24 (www.n24.de)

click on the Gallery "Kämpfen wie in Hollywood" on the bottom right side of the Homepage

[Freeman]

ohh, i see, thank you

[szr]

chucky555:

Simple "Prussian Discipline" was not the secret of the Wehrmachts fighting power.
As far as sympathies go its funny that you reserve them for exactly those who partook in OIF.
I served quite a few years in the German army, and according to my experience our soldiers are ok. French soldiers I met were good, and certainly on par with the British. This whole talk of the French being sissies is just crap, propaganda of a certain interest group in the US.
And all of them, German, French and British can definitly hold their own against American soldiers. Considering the quality of your fellow soldiers you have absolutely no reason to believe, that you were a race of supersoldiers.
race of supersoldiers lol you sure you're not confusing us with someone else? :lol:

Anyone have any pics of the old US Natick Soldier Integrated Protective Ensemble (SIPE)?

[Wodan]

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer01.jpg


Finaly some new armour from my country
woot :hug:

its a cooperation...

[caleb]

http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer01.jpg


Finaly some new armour from my country
woot :hug:

its a cooperation...

:cantbeli:

Is it a new hobby of yours to dig up those old n' rotten topics out of their graves?

[Wodan]

So theres a law not to post in old threads?

[caleb]

So theres a law not to post in old threads?

No, it's just extremly stupid, dumb and annoying. ..... Just like you....kleine Nazifotze

[seventy6er]

I approve this thread and think it needs a BUMP (cause forum search doesn't work properly)

[Eldar]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/TdI2005-6.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/PDW_MG43_G36.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/IdZ2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/IdZ1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/boxer_04_gr.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/20040913c.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/20040913a.jpg

I hope you like these pic's

[variable]

Really nice pics, keep em coming! A pity that these are just show pics...

Is the MG43 already "in action"? And if so, which troops and what quantity?

Lucie, ESP21 and MP7 were already seen in a-stan several times.

variable

[Eldar]

Man, I cannot answer your doubts about the MG43, I hope that some of our german friends tell us something about it!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/infanterist3_600.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/infanterist2_600.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/infanterist1_600.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/IdZ_Vertragsunterzeichnung.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/2-sighting-systems.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/4-navicom.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/IDZ2.jpg

some pics of the MG-43
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/3_27-28-423-709_20030929123429.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/3_27-28-424-709_20030929123429.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/3_27-28-425-709_20030929123430.jpg

and... one of my favourite pics of German Soldiers (are they PanzaerGrenadiers?)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz02.jpg

[variable]

Again nice pics!

I guess they are HK-personnel. They tested the MG43 somewhere in Arizona, if I recall correctly.

[XTC]

So theres a law not to post in old threads?

Thanks for the bump Wodan, very interesting thread

[Eldar]

more pics

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz31sv.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz51uq.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz62ay.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz117jg.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz124yy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz130eh.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz158el.jpg
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http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz1160mh.jpg

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what's that "thing der zukunft" with a trigger?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/ulthwe/idz62ay.jpg

[seventy6er]

That's a new aiming device ("dynarange") for the old Panzerfaust3.

Thx for the great new pics Eldar! The one in your last post are new to me! :hug:

[tsuri]

what's that "thing der zukunft" with a trigger?
The Text says it is a device to launch the Panzerfaust 3 with an integrated Firing Computer that tells the Shooter where to shoot to hit a moving target.

[SAPPEROIF]

Hmm I can't see the pics for some reason, well the ones on the first page at the top anyway.

I should know this but..lol....does anyone know the exact name/model of the current Scout motorcycle that the US Military uses?

[Eldar]

not at all :)