Radical british Jihad Video "Dirty Kuffar" WOW!! M

[jizzmonkey]

9/11 rap wows British Muslims


Sunday 08 February 2004, 18:16 Makka Time, 15:16 GMT



A music video glorifying Usama bin Ladin and containing images of the 11 September attacks in New York has become a big hit with young Muslims in Britain.


According to the UK's Observer newspaper this Sunday, rap artist Shaikh Terra calls for British PM Tony Blair and US President George Bush to be "thrown on the fire" in his song Dirty Kuffar (unbelievers).

An exiled Saudi dissident, Muhammad al-Massari, told the newspaper that he did not know a single young Muslim who has not either seen or got the video.

"It is selling everywhere. Everyone I meet at the mosque is asking for it."

Al-Massari's Committee for the Defence of Legitimate Rights in Saudi Arabia - a group which came to Britain in 1994 to publicise injustices in the desert kingdom - also distributes the four-minute video on its website.

Graphic video

"I believe the lyrics are only metaphorical. It is not like this is a fatwa"

Muhammad al-Massari,
Founder of Committee for the Defence of Legitimate Rights in Saudi Arabia

The song starts with images of US marines in Iraq cheering as one of them shoots a wounded Iraqi lying on the floor.

It finishes with images of the hijacked planes flying into the World Trade Centre towers in New York with sounds of the rappers laughing.

One of the video's most brutal images shows an Islamic fighter in Chechnya executing a captured Russian soldier with a machine gun.

Another image shows photographs of US Secretary of State Colin Powell and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice with the words "still slaves" superimposed across their bodies.

"I believe the lyrics are only metaphorical. It is not like this is a fatwa," al-Massari added.






WOW!!! I JUST WATCHED THIS VIDEO.... YOU CAN SEE IT AT:


http://www.ratatak.com/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=14


This is serious ****.....

Nothing but recruitment video

[ShadowNeo]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.

[jizzmonkey]

It is posted in a lot of places....
I just googled it and chose the top search for the post

wheather its a big deal or not is up to you, but if you watch it, you can see for yourself if you think its a problem or not

[Moledet]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.
Keep ignoring the problem. :|

[Pille1234]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.
This is rather old news. I saw it in paper and TV 2 month ago. And yes, I'm afraid it is widespreaded.

[cut]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.
Keep ignoring the problem. :|

it's not ignored, but it is exagerated and sensationalised by parts of the media..

[jizzmonkey]

I understand freedom of speech.....

but cant the brits do something to stop these guys??

has anyone else watched this??

[ZeroPositive]

WHAT A BUNCH OF TWATS this takes the piss....

[Moledet]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.
Keep ignoring the problem. :|

it's not ignored, but it is exagerated and sensationalised by parts of the media..
Tell me about that again when someone will get hurt by some crazy british Muslim...OOPS civilians already got hurt by a brit that blew himself up in a bar in Tel Aviv.

[ShadowNeo]

Keep ignoring the problem.

I'm not ignoring any problem. I think the problem is that the people who don't even live in Britain seem to think that every Muslim here is fanatical, or extreme.

[usa320]

what makes youth so impressionable these days???

I guess my parents and my parents parants probably wondered the same, but im starting to agree with these people that say the media is corrupting the children...To some degree. Its not the media thats corrupting the children, its the broken families and parents that could give a **** that are.

[cut]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.
Keep ignoring the problem. :|

it's not ignored, but it is exagerated and sensationalised by parts of the media..
Tell me about that again when someone will get hurt by some crazy british Muslim...OOPS civilians already got hurt by a brit that blew himself up in a bar in Tel Aviv.

let's go bulldoze their houses then :roll:

The whole intelligence community is looking out for al-qaida and their cells at the moment, I very much doubt they are being ignored.

[jizzmonkey]

has anyone else watched it??????????????????

[stuntman]

I find this very funny because the beat of the song is from a rap artist from new york called Lumi Dee and I personally know her and my friend Al made the beat for that song! I cant wait to call him after work today.
Maybe if possible he can be found and maybe her music backers will try to sue, but good luck to that!

[Moledet]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.
Keep ignoring the problem. :|

it's not ignored, but it is exagerated and sensationalised by parts of the media..
Tell me about that again when someone will get hurt by some crazy british Muslim...OOPS civilians already got hurt by a brit that blew himself up in a bar in Tel Aviv.

let's go bulldoze their houses then :roll:

The whole intelligence community is looking out for al-qaida and their cells at the moment, I very much doubt they are being ignored.

I'm not talking about Al-Qaida, i'm talking about all the british muslims, they are being ignored, have the authorities ever checked if the things that are being said in the mosques provoke hate? This guy is a Shikeh, he teaches people, don't you find it disturbing that these are his views?

[ShadowNeo]

I'm not talking about Al-Qaida, i'm talking about all the british muslims, they are being ignored, have the authorities ever checked if the things that are being said in the mosques provoke hate? This guy is a Shikeh, he teaches people, don't you find it disturbing that these are his views?

If you had access to British media, you would not get the impression that the Muslim community is being ignored. Also there are two sides of the story to "provoking hate" the side you are missing is the prejudice muslims are getting from some of the british population.

[cut]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.
Keep ignoring the problem. :|

it's not ignored, but it is exagerated and sensationalised by parts of the media..
Tell me about that again when someone will get hurt by some crazy british Muslim...OOPS civilians already got hurt by a brit that blew himself up in a bar in Tel Aviv.

let's go bulldoze their houses then :roll:

The whole intelligence community is looking out for al-qaida and their cells at the moment, I very much doubt they are being ignored.

I'm not talking about Al-Qaida, i'm talking about all the british muslims, they are being ignored, have the authorities ever checked if the things that are being said in the mosques provoke hate? This guy is a Shikeh, he teaches people, don't you find it disturbing that these are his views?

yes they have.. the ones that may incite violence are eventually dealt with, the others that disagree with the war are entitled to their opinions, after all the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury agree with them.

[cut]

has anyone else watched it??????????????????
of course

[Fioraon]

I find this very funny because the beat of the song is from a rap artist from new york called Lumi Dee and I personally know her and my friend Al made the beat for that song! I cant wait to call him after work today.
Maybe if possible he can be found and maybe her music backers will try to sue, but good luck to that!


HAHAHAHA! Word.

Honestly this is really no worse then some music videos and songs written by Americans (or Westerners) aimed at Americans (or Westerners.) First generation under ground punk comes to mind. If you are going to make a fuss about this I really think you should have started making a fuss about degrading music a long ass time ago.

[mocking_loudly_died]

I find this very funny because the beat of the song is from a rap artist from new york called Lumi Dee and I personally know her and my friend Al made the beat for that song! I cant wait to call him after work today.
Maybe if possible he can be found and maybe her music backers will try to sue, but good luck to that!

You cannot sue over a drum beat sample - beats are not classed as musical creation, this has been taken to court many times.

Sampling drums patterns is legitimate. The most you could attempt is a cease and desist letter - but it would have no real legal power.

[Hullebullen]

I think it''s no worse than "white power"-music...different in a way, but same goddamn ****...

[jizzmonkey]

I find this very funny because the beat of the song is from a rap artist from new york called Lumi Dee and I personally know her and my friend Al made the beat for that song! I cant wait to call him after work today.
Maybe if possible he can be found and maybe her music backers will try to sue, but good luck to that!


HAHAHAHA! Word.

Honestly this is really no worse then some music videos and songs written by Americans (or Westerners) aimed at Americans (or Westerners.) First generation under ground punk comes to mind. If you are going to make a fuss about this I really think you should have started making a fuss about degrading music a long ass time ago.


whhhhhow

hold on now...

I dont ever recall "the dead Kennedy's" or the "Missfits" calling for a global war or showing chechen rebels killing russian soldiers on MTV, and laughing at 9/11 as the planes hit the buildings???

c'mon!!

This is a recruitment video


the group that made it call for jihad!! "DIGIHAD"??!! Digital-jihad

to say its the same is wrong

And since when are jihadists into reggea beat rap?

Calling for civil-disobedience and "**** the police" is one thing, but this is all out propaganda for a global war in the name of religion!

[Pille1234]

And since when are jihadists into reggea beat rap?
Well, the public relations division of Al Qaida is getting more and more professional.

[jizzmonkey]

And since when are jihadists into reggea beat rap?
Well, the public relations divisio of Al Qaida is getting more and more professional. :lol:

[DPGLAW]

what a shock....more proof, to me at least and much of the US) that the word "innocent civilian" is relative and as such should be treated accordingly. Primarily I am speaking about Iraq and to a lessor extent- Saudi Arabia. We need to level some of their cities so that these muslims understsand who they are messing with and pay the price they owe. This article spells it out when it qootes "It is selling everywhere. Everyone I meet at the mosque is asking for it." AND An exiled Saudi dissident, Muhammad al-Massari, told the newspaper that he did not know a single young Muslim who has not either seen or got the video. ...this shows us that these poeple are not innocent as they proclaim but supporters of the terrorists and tehir attacks on America and our Allies.....As Pres. Bush said, we do not make a distinction between terrorists and those who support them. This is definitely supporting them as im sure they get the money from the sales and it spreads their propaganda. Anyone who is found in possession of this or purchases it should be arrested and charged with aiding the enemy and providing material support to a terrorist. By giving them the money for this **** they are doing exactly that- supporting them.

I think that we and our Allies need to act like, and really not give a flying f*uck about the muslim world's feelings. they don't deserve it. The broad support and demand for this video make evident to everyone no matter how far to the left you are politically, that they ALL hate us. We need to treat them as they deserve. In Iraq we need to raze one of the cities which is a terrorists strong hold, like Dresden or Grozny after the Russians leveled them. Mabye level mecca...I don;t know, but it had to be something that is extremely serious, violent, destructive, and scary to send the message. In my opinion, the MOAB would do.

[cut]

what a shock....more proof, to me at least and much of the US) that the word "innocent civilian" is relative and as such should be treated accordingly. Primarily I am speaking about Iraq and to a lessor extent- Saudi Arabia. We need to level some of their cities so that these muslims understsand who they are messing with and pay the price they owe. This article spells it out when it qootes "It is selling everywhere. Everyone I meet at the mosque is asking for it." AND An exiled Saudi dissident, Muhammad al-Massari, told the newspaper that he did not know a single young Muslim who has not either seen or got the video. ...this shows us that these poeple are not innocent as they proclaim but supporters of the terrorists and tehir attacks on America and our Allies.....As Pres. Bush said, we do not make a distinction between terrorists and those who support them. This is definitely supporting them as im sure they get the money from the sales and it spreads their propaganda. Anyone who is found in possession of this or purchases it should be arrested and charged with aiding the enemy and providing material support to a terrorist. By giving them the money for this **** they are doing exactly that- supporting them.

I think that we and our Allies need to act like, and really not give a flying f*uck about the muslim world's feelings. they don't deserve it. The broad support and demand for this video make evident to everyone no matter how far to the left you are politically, that they ALL hate us. We need to treat them as they deserve. In Iraq we need to raze one of the cities which is a terrorists strong hold, like Dresden or Grozny after the Russians leveled them. Mabye level mecca...I don;t know, but it had to be something that is extremely serious, violent, destructive, and scary to send the message. In my opinion, the MOAB would do.

Let's gas the muslims!! like you said flatten their cities! there are no civilians, women and children should be killed too! Let's MOAB them to hell! MOAB is the new concentration camp! Yeah!

Sounds like a great idea! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Ratamacue]

DPGLAW, stop posting.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

DPGLAW if you leveled there cities your more of a terrorist then them. :cantbeli: What happened to freedom of speech?

I want you to leave your parents basement and get some fresh air and see what real life is like away from the internet.

Anyways this is old news, this video has been out for awhile.

[jizzmonkey]

what a shock....more proof, to me at least and much of the US) that the word "innocent civilian" is relative and as such should be treated accordingly. Primarily I am speaking about Iraq and to a lessor extent- Saudi Arabia. We need to level some of their cities so that these muslims understsand who they are messing with and pay the price they owe. This article spells it out when it qootes "It is selling everywhere. Everyone I meet at the mosque is asking for it." AND An exiled Saudi dissident, Muhammad al-Massari, told the newspaper that he did not know a single young Muslim who has not either seen or got the video. ...this shows us that these poeple are not innocent as they proclaim but supporters of the terrorists and tehir attacks on America and our Allies.....As Pres. Bush said, we do not make a distinction between terrorists and those who support them. This is definitely supporting them as im sure they get the money from the sales and it spreads their propaganda. Anyone who is found in possession of this or purchases it should be arrested and charged with aiding the enemy and providing material support to a terrorist. By giving them the money for this **** they are doing exactly that- supporting them.

I think that we and our Allies need to act like, and really not give a flying f*uck about the muslim world's feelings. they don't deserve it. The broad support and demand for this video make evident to everyone no matter how far to the left you are politically, that they ALL hate us. We need to treat them as they deserve. In Iraq we need to raze one of the cities which is a terrorists strong hold, like Dresden or Grozny after the Russians leveled them. Mabye level mecca...I don;t know, but it had to be something that is extremely serious, violent, destructive, and scary to send the message. In my opinion, the MOAB would do.

Let's gas the muslims!! like you said flatten their cities! there are no civilians, women and children should be killed too! Let's MOAB them to hell! MOAB is the new concentration camp! Yeah!

Sounds like a great idea! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


I dont agree with that,,,, but what the hell should we do?

This is spreading like a disease...

the muslim youth is embracing this ideology...
this is the fight for thier generation...

AND THEY BELIEVE IT!

I did a search on limewire for muslim rap... and I found songs by American rappers calling for jihad and beheading infidels in the name of islam!

what the hell is going on here??

[Fioraon]

I find this very funny because the beat of the song is from a rap artist from new york called Lumi Dee and I personally know her and my friend Al made the beat for that song! I cant wait to call him after work today.
Maybe if possible he can be found and maybe her music backers will try to sue, but good luck to that!


HAHAHAHA! Word.

Honestly this is really no worse then some music videos and songs written by Americans (or Westerners) aimed at Americans (or Westerners.) First generation under ground punk comes to mind. If you are going to make a fuss about this I really think you should have started making a fuss about degrading music a long ass time ago.


whhhhhow

hold on now...

I dont ever recall "the dead Kennedy's" or the "Missfits" calling for a global war or showing chechen rebels killing russian soldiers on MTV, and laughing at 9/11 as the planes hit the buildings???

c'mon!!

This is a recruitment video


the group that made it call for jihad!! "DIGIHAD"??!! Digital-jihad

to say its the same is wrong

And since when are jihadists into reggea beat rap?

Calling for civil-disobedience and "f*** the police" is one thing, but this is all out propaganda for a global war in the name of religion!


All Im saying is that just because they make a crappy ass video and even steal someone elses beat is no reason to get your panties wet. No doubt if you wanted to go kick their ass I would help you but this video holds no value. They want you to cry about it, just roll it off as another crappy music video to add to MTV's top 100 crappy countdown.

[jizzmonkey]

I find this very funny because the beat of the song is from a rap artist from new york called Lumi Dee and I personally know her and my friend Al made the beat for that song! I cant wait to call him after work today.
Maybe if possible he can be found and maybe her music backers will try to sue, but good luck to that!


HAHAHAHA! Word.

Honestly this is really no worse then some music videos and songs written by Americans (or Westerners) aimed at Americans (or Westerners.) First generation under ground punk comes to mind. If you are going to make a fuss about this I really think you should have started making a fuss about degrading music a long ass time ago.




whhhhhow

hold on now...

I dont ever recall "the dead Kennedy's" or the "Missfits" calling for a global war or showing chechen rebels killing russian soldiers on MTV, and laughing at 9/11 as the planes hit the buildings???

c'mon!!

This is a recruitment video


the group that made it call for jihad!! "DIGIHAD"??!! Digital-jihad

to say its the same is wrong

And since when are jihadists into reggea beat rap?

Calling for civil-disobedience and "f*** the police" is one thing, but this is all out propaganda for a global war in the name of religion!


All Im saying is that just because they make a crappy ass video and even steal someone elses beat is no reason to get your panties wet. No doubt if you wanted to go kick their ass I would help you but this vedio hold no value. They want you to cry about it, just roll it off as another crappy music video to add to MTV's top 100 crappy countdown.

I honestly think we are underestimating the impact crap like this has.

[cut]

what a shock....more proof, to me at least and much of the US) that the word "innocent civilian" is relative and as such should be treated accordingly. Primarily I am speaking about Iraq and to a lessor extent- Saudi Arabia. We need to level some of their cities so that these muslims understsand who they are messing with and pay the price they owe. This article spells it out when it qootes "It is selling everywhere. Everyone I meet at the mosque is asking for it." AND An exiled Saudi dissident, Muhammad al-Massari, told the newspaper that he did not know a single young Muslim who has not either seen or got the video. ...this shows us that these poeple are not innocent as they proclaim but supporters of the terrorists and tehir attacks on America and our Allies.....As Pres. Bush said, we do not make a distinction between terrorists and those who support them. This is definitely supporting them as im sure they get the money from the sales and it spreads their propaganda. Anyone who is found in possession of this or purchases it should be arrested and charged with aiding the enemy and providing material support to a terrorist. By giving them the money for this **** they are doing exactly that- supporting them.

I think that we and our Allies need to act like, and really not give a flying f*uck about the muslim world's feelings. they don't deserve it. The broad support and demand for this video make evident to everyone no matter how far to the left you are politically, that they ALL hate us. We need to treat them as they deserve. In Iraq we need to raze one of the cities which is a terrorists strong hold, like Dresden or Grozny after the Russians leveled them. Mabye level mecca...I don;t know, but it had to be something that is extremely serious, violent, destructive, and scary to send the message. In my opinion, the MOAB would do.

Let's gas the muslims!! like you said flatten their cities! there are no civilians, women and children should be killed too! Let's MOAB them to hell! MOAB is the new concentration camp! Yeah!

Sounds like a great idea! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


I dont agree with that,,,, but what the hell should we do?

This is spreading like a disease...

the muslim youth is embracing this ideology...
this is the fight for thier generation...

AND THEY BELIEVE IT!

I did a search on limewire for muslim rap... and I found songs by American rappers calling for jihad and beheading infidels in the name of islam!

what the hell is going on here??

there's no use getting paranoid about it, I'm sure if you searched the internet you'd find other racist stuff. Most muslim kids in the west are educated in western schools and watch western media only a minority of more nationalistic of them will feel this way, just like racists in our society that hate them..

[Fioraon]

I find this very funny because the beat of the song is from a rap artist from new york called Lumi Dee and I personally know her and my friend Al made the beat for that song! I cant wait to call him after work today.
Maybe if possible he can be found and maybe her music backers will try to sue, but good luck to that!


HAHAHAHA! Word.

Honestly this is really no worse then some music videos and songs written by Americans (or Westerners) aimed at Americans (or Westerners.) First generation under ground punk comes to mind. If you are going to make a fuss about this I really think you should have started making a fuss about degrading music a long ass time ago.




whhhhhow

hold on now...

I dont ever recall "the dead Kennedy's" or the "Missfits" calling for a global war or showing chechen rebels killing russian soldiers on MTV, and laughing at 9/11 as the planes hit the buildings???

c'mon!!

This is a recruitment video


the group that made it call for jihad!! "DIGIHAD"??!! Digital-jihad

to say its the same is wrong

And since when are jihadists into reggea beat rap?

Calling for civil-disobedience and "f*** the police" is one thing, but this is all out propaganda for a global war in the name of religion!


All Im saying is that just because they make a crappy ass video and even steal someone elses beat is no reason to get your panties wet. No doubt if you wanted to go kick their ass I would help you but this vedio hold no value. They want you to cry about it, just roll it off as another crappy music video to add to MTV's top 100 crappy countdown.

I honestly think we are underestimating the impact crap like this has.

Well if you are going to attack them you will need to start attacking most of the music industry. While we are at it we might as well change our name to the United Socialist of America because what they are doing if proving that our free system doesn't work if you 'do something' about a 'harmless' video.

[DPGLAW]

Is anyone else on this board disagrees with what I had to say about this then don't be such morons like ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð and Ratamacue and post an intelligent counter post. Im not sure, but I believe that is one of the premses of a debate or argument, whatever u want to call it, but im not sure :) My post was 90% emotion because of the fact that it seems like no one cares or will do anything for real about the murders of our and other countries civilians. Mabye they are doing alot and it's just not publicized....But the news reports that I see and the articles I read don't show that we are doing anything. When and if we catch them we need to make an example of them....not give them the justice of our civilized world. We should apply the same "rules" and standards of justice that these backwards third world countries use. Thats how we are treated by them and thats why I feel that what I suggested in my last post is not such a bad idea. It would certainley shock them and have a psychological effect that would put the fear of God into these rags.

[stuntman]

what a shock....more proof, to me at least and much of the US) that the word "innocent civilian" is relative and as such should be treated accordingly. Primarily I am speaking about Iraq and to a lessor extent- Saudi Arabia. We need to level some of their cities so that these muslims understsand who they are messing with and pay the price they owe. This article spells it out when it qootes "It is selling everywhere. Everyone I meet at the mosque is asking for it." AND An exiled Saudi dissident, Muhammad al-Massari, told the newspaper that he did not know a single young Muslim who has not either seen or got the video. ...this shows us that these poeple are not innocent as they proclaim but supporters of the terrorists and tehir attacks on America and our Allies.....As Pres. Bush said, we do not make a distinction between terrorists and those who support them. This is definitely supporting them as im sure they get the money from the sales and it spreads their propaganda. Anyone who is found in possession of this or purchases it should be arrested and charged with aiding the enemy and providing material support to a terrorist. By giving them the money for this **** they are doing exactly that- supporting them.

I think that we and our Allies need to act like, and really not give a flying f*uck about the muslim world's feelings. they don't deserve it. The broad support and demand for this video make evident to everyone no matter how far to the left you are politically, that they ALL hate us. We need to treat them as they deserve. In Iraq we need to raze one of the cities which is a terrorists strong hold, like Dresden or Grozny after the Russians leveled them. Mabye level mecca...I don;t know, but it had to be something that is extremely serious, violent, destructive, and scary to send the message. In my opinion, the MOAB would do.

Let's gas the muslims!! like you said flatten their cities! there are no civilians, women and children should be killed too! Let's MOAB them to hell! MOAB is the new concentration camp! Yeah!

Sounds like a great idea! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


I dont agree with that,,,, but what the hell should we do?

This is spreading like a disease...

the muslim youth is embracing this ideology...
this is the fight for thier generation...

AND THEY BELIEVE IT!

I did a search on limewire for muslim rap... and I found songs by American rappers calling for jihad and beheading infidels in the name of islam!

what the hell is going on here??

It's WW3 and at the moment the west is losing it's momentum! We (civilized world) need to come to a consensus on how to deal with this situation. Or the future battle will be fought in front of our homes with or childrens body parts all over the place! look at Isreals past and soon to be future (unfortunately) terrorist acts on civilians!


If I fall my promise for them to fall first is second to none!

Live by it people live by it!

[Secret Squirrel]

Thats how we are treated by them and thats why I feel that what I suggested in my last post is not such a bad idea. It would certainley shock them and have a psychological effect that would put the fear of God into these rags.

you want to try and put the fear of God into people who sometimes literally blow themselves up for their cause? :roll:

[DPGLAW]

meant to be a PM-sorry

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Im the moron eh? for not falling for your extremist idea's? You no better then them buddy...What happened if you did bomb a city flat? you ever think of what would happen around the world? You think everything would be "flowers pink bunnies polka dots and the american flag?".

Your getting your panties in a knot buddy, yes its fecking ****ty what happens to people especially innocents in a time of war. BUT NAME ONE WAR WERE THERE WASNT ANY INNOCENT CASUALTIES? Look at the type of enemy your fighting, they are fighting a guirella war. They will do anything to disrupt the coalition , and right now if you ask me they are doing a pretty fecking good job of it (just look at your posts). They win when you dont respect the people of Iraq (or Saudi Arabia for that matter), and reffer to them all as "cameljockey's".

In short your posts are emotional garbage, dont post without thinking.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Oh just a PM eh buddy? Well you wanted a debate, here it is.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Thats what I thought :slap:

[ch703]

"I believe the lyrics are only metaphorical. It is not like this is a fatwa," al-Massari added......is he in total denial or just a plain retard,i would love to strangle those f'in bastards :fork:

[jizzmonkey]

"I believe the lyrics are only metaphorical. It is not like this is a fatwa," al-Massari added......is he in total denial or just a plain retard,i would love to strangle those f'in bastards :fork:

there is nothing "metaphorical" about it....

they sound pretty straight forward to me

[gilgoul]

If its so serious and widespread, why has only one newspaper reported it? You'd think if it was as widespread as made out in the article, it would have at least been reported in more than one paper.
Keep ignoring the problem. :|

it's not ignored, but it is exagerated and sensationalised by parts of the media..

Cut, everytime a thing is a little embarrassing for you, it is exagerated.
The fact is this kind of cheap video is a real propaganda tool, the fact is that if a "white nationalist" video was to have the same success you would have wide coverage wondering about the "return of the fascists".
Well, what I have seen here is a racist video, holding a call to murder and apologetic of terrorism, so if this kind of "opening "of the Jihadist message, that goes in English on a trendy music doesn`t bother you, well, wake up

[jizzmonkey]

the fact is...Young dissilusioned Arabs are seeing this video and identifying with its message...
In turn the next generation of jihadists is born and will continue to grow at an alarming rate.

[Secret Squirrel]

the fact is...Young dissilusioned Arabs are seeing this video and identifying with its message...
In turn the next generation of jihadists is born and will continue to grow at an alarming rate.

while i agree its a sick video, people who will actually be affected by this video to go out and commit the desired actions will probably commit these actions regardless of a rap song. You dont see fans of "rage against the machine" "raining their familes with shells" do you?

[jizzmonkey]

David Carver quotes the "sheik":

osama is a savior! he spoke out against tyrant, as for the two tower (ha ha) none ofthem were innocent because they support a evil capitalist ideology which starves people in places like africa and help supply money to the US war machine, allah auackbah!!!

Posted by: sheikh_terra at February 19, 2004 04:52 AM



To shluff rehtoric like this aside is to play into the hands of the jihadist and let thier cause spread even further.

[b.scheller]

i have to say...the song sucks and the video is even worse...can't believe anyone falls for this ****...

[jizzmonkey]

I don't know about anyone else, other than my family and friends, but I'm proud to be a dirty kuffar, and to stand for life, and those who safeguard it, instead of those hell-bent on taking it. With dhimmitude in full swing in EUrope, it could very easily happen here in November. Especially with the dhimmocrats and their inane rhetoric and blame-o-meter, reaching epic levels. This is not our world any more people; it belongs to people who do not love the truth, and prefer delusion to reality.

[usa320]

okay WTF??? If the RIAA commandos can demolish my computer and i can get sued for billions for downloading "Country Grammer" by Nelly...then why the **** can these people sling so much **** around and it be legal??? I mean wheres the justice here??? somebody tell me???

THAT AINT RIGHT!

:petting:

[Tane Angle]

Music video aside:


Is anyone else on this board disagrees with what I had to say about this then don't be such morons like ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð and Ratamacue and post an intelligent counter post.

I've tried making what I'd like to think were intelligent counter posts, but they've been rather ignored, judging by the below quote.


It would certainley shock them and have a psychological effect that would put the fear of God into these rags.

Was that last word really necessary? Also, extremely little is for certain in the Middle East, be it who hates who or even exactly who "who" really is. Are you sure that "that would put the fear of God" into anyone?

By the way, please don't level Mecca. It's really not that bad a place. Not to mention that if anyone from the West touched it, we actually would be fighting a war of religions.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[Ratamacue]

Is anyone else on this board disagrees with what I had to say about this then don't be such morons like ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð and Ratamacue and post an intelligent counter post.
I'm hurt.

Try using your f*cking brain instead of spouting off bull****. "Let's level all their f*cking cities, that'll teach them that we're the good guys!" Were you not pissed off when a certain terrorist attack on the US left 3,000 civilians dead? How would you feel if an entire city in the US was leveled by a nuclear weapon?

[jizzmonkey]

Invite the kuffar countries friendly to Islam....
and if they refuse: fight them!
From: The Types of Jihad
http://www.ummah.net.pk/harkat/jihad/t-jihad.htm
There are two types of Jihad against the Kuffar.

1- Offensive Jihad
2- Defensive Jihad

1- Offensive Jihad is when the Muslims launch an offensive attack. If this attack is on the Kuffar who have previously received the message of Islam, then to call them towards Islam before commencement of the attack is considered preferable.

However, if the message of Islam has not reached them, then the Kuffar will be invited towards Islam. If they reject this true faith, then they will have to pay Jizyah (Kufr tax). If they refuse to submit to the payment of Jizyah then the Muslims are to fight against them. With this type of Jihad the Kuffar who plot against the Muslims are repelled and their hearts are filled with fear, so that they do not succeed in their plans.

The offensive Jihad is Fardh Kifayah, the purpose of which is to ensure the Kuffar remain terrorised and away from mischief, thereby, allowing the message of Islam to be conveyed without any obstructions.

If one group of Muslims fulfil this obligation then it will be sufficient on behalf of all Muslims, but if there are no Muslims fulfilling this obligation then everyone is considered sinful.

It is stated in Fatawa Shami: It is required of the Imam (leader) of the Muslims to dispatch the army routinely once or twice a year towards the Kufr countries. It is also the duty of the Muslim public to assist the Imam in this noble cause. If the Imam does not send an army, then he will considered sinful.

The majority of Jihad undertaken at the time of our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) was within the category of offensive Jihad.

The Quran has called upon the Muslims to undertake the offensive Jihad and when this obligation is satisfactorily fulfilled there would be no apparent need for the defensive Jihad.

When Muslims neglect this important obligation then they are subjected to the defensive Jihad and this has become, with regret, widely common in our time.




This is the kind of bull**** these assholes post in the name of religion.....

so when I read **** like this I'm supposed to still be tolerant??
Its more and more becoming like its "kill or be killed"

correct me if I'm wrong.