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WolverineBlue
06-30-2004, 07:41 PM
Well, I decided to finally apply for one. I live in Fairfax County, Virginia, and I have researched the requirements for obtaining the CCW.

1. Fill out application

2. Proof of Fairfax County residency

3. Take certified gun safety class

Nos. 2 & 3 are easy for me. Number 1 however might be a problem. I was convicted of a misdemeanor (drunk in public -- surprise surprise -- long story) -- does anyone have any prior experience with how the "man" reacts to that sort of criminal record? I have a spotless record other than that little blip. :oops:

American Patriot
06-30-2004, 08:41 PM
I think, in the terms of the law, you are only prohibited from a CCW if you have a felony conviction.

WolverineBlue
06-30-2004, 08:52 PM
That's what I thought, Patriot -- not planning on committing any felonies in the near-future, and so I think I'm in good shape. woot

Seoulstriker
06-30-2004, 08:57 PM
Congrats when you get one!


I would absolutely love one, but I live in the People's Republic of Illinois. :|

WolverineBlue
06-30-2004, 09:08 PM
Tomorrow, in Virginia, pretty much all county and city ordinances restricting open-carry weapons disappear. You can wander around pretty much anywhere with a openly holstered handgun...kind of scary. Including bars and stuff.

You still can't take a concealed weapon into a liquor-serving establishment, church or school. Otherwise, it's the wild west here in the Old Dominion.

I'm going to take the NRA class which includes a classroom session where a lawyer, some law enforcement and safety instructors lecture on the specifics of the rules and responsibilities of a CCW. What to do if you cap somebody, when it's OK, etc...very bizarre, but useful. Then we do an hour session with an instructor on gun handling, shooting, etc. Should be fun.

Now I just need to get a sweet pistol -- I have a 6" .357 Magnum and my dad's service 1911 (both not practical for CCW)...suggestions welcome. Semi-auto in .40, .357 or .45 preferred (or a plasma rifle in the 30-watt range). ;)

Uncle Sam
06-30-2004, 09:10 PM
I have one. woot

memphiz
06-30-2004, 09:11 PM
That's what I thought, Patriot -- not planning on committing any felonies in the near-future, and so I think I'm in good shape. woot
Then whats the point of having a gun?



p-)

WolverineBlue
06-30-2004, 09:13 PM
That's what I thought, Patriot -- not planning on committing any felonies in the near-future, and so I think I'm in good shape. woot
Then whats the point of having a gun?



p-)

Piece of mind, lad, piece of mind....I'll never bring it out, but in case the **** hits the fan here in the DC area, I would like to be legally locked and loaded.

memphiz
06-30-2004, 09:19 PM
That's what I thought, Patriot -- not planning on committing any felonies in the near-future, and so I think I'm in good shape. woot
Then whats the point of having a gun?



p-)

Piece of mind, lad, piece of mind....I'll never bring it out, but in case the **** hits the fan here in the DC area, I would like to be legally locked and loaded.
hmm yeah thats true

WolverineBlue
06-30-2004, 09:28 PM
Coming changes to Virginia law include:

Exempting concealed carry permit holders from one-gun-a-month purchase limits.
Eliminating requirements that certain counties keep records of handgun purchases.
Preventing counties from requiring permits to purchase handguns.
Requiring counties to destroy records of any handgun purchase.

The Second Amendment is alive and well in Virginia woot

MEGR
06-30-2004, 09:34 PM
There should be a heavy weapons permit

WolverineBlue
06-30-2004, 09:43 PM
I wanna turn my 4runner into a technical. rofl

fisheyestudio
06-30-2004, 10:08 PM
Hey howdy hey!

This is a big decision to make isnt it! I have had my permit for about a month now. At times it feels strange have a loaded weapon on my person, a BIG sense of responsibility for sure.

I am carrying a Rossi 38 special, 5 shot revovler. I carry it in a pocket holster. It just looks like a cell phone or palm pilot bulg and the weapon is very accessable.

I think the auto's are great but my father in law is a gun smith and he convinced me to carry a revovler. No right answer except that you are comfortable with the weapon and can hit what you want to with it every time!

Jesus blessings! May you never have to draw your weapon, but If the time comes, may you be granted the wisdom to know!

WolverineBlue
06-30-2004, 10:41 PM
Roger that -- thanks fisheye. As I said, it won't be coming with me 98% of the time.

FallenAngel
06-30-2004, 10:50 PM
The Second Amendment is alive and well in Virginia woot

F*CK! Goddamned People's Republic of Commiefornia has got the 2nd Amendment by the balls. But hey, that doesn't stop the gang-bangers from getting their hands on tech9s, MAC10s, or a clip that holds more than 10 rounds. :roll:

Start a revolution and liberate us poor oppressed folk. :D

hank
06-30-2004, 11:33 PM
The Second Amendment is alive and well in Virginia woot

F*CK! Goddamned People's Republic of Commiefornia has got the 2nd Amendment by the balls. But hey, that doesn't stop the gang-bangers from getting their hands on tech9s, MAC10s, or a clip that holds more than 10 rounds. :roll:

Start a revolution and liberate us poor oppressed folk. :D

Second Amendment does not apply to the states. Sorry. It has never been incorporated to the states as many of the other Bill of Rights have. States may limit gun ownership as they see fit.

hank

WolverineBlue
06-30-2004, 11:52 PM
Constitution of Virginia

Article I

Section 13

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the
people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe
defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people
to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing
armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to
liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under
strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

GOD BLESS VIRGINIA

hank
07-01-2004, 12:02 AM
Your quote may well be true, but its not the second amendment to the US constitution. In fact, it does not appear to be an emendmetn at all. Article I usually means the body of hte document, not an amendment. I have very little knowledge about state constitutions. A little about Mass, TN and now GA. I am under the impression, however, that nearly every state constitution has a provision in some way similar to your quote.

As I said, the states may limit (or make ownership of a right) as they see fit. The second amendment neither applies to nor prohibts a state from limiting gun ownership. States may, however, voluntarily choose in their constitution to grant a right similar to the second amendment, but they do so by choice, not because of anything in the US constitution.

hank

Tranceaddict
07-01-2004, 12:04 AM
Congrats man!

Good luck!

Also, for a weapon choice. Go with a Glock 23, or a 26 p-)

Though they have no active safeties, so make sure you get a good holster where the thumb retention strap isnt stiff and will get into the trigger guard and fire a round.

Otherwise, I'd say a compact glock, try them out. That is if you're into pistols. A revolver will get the round where you want it, when you want it.

WolverineBlue
07-01-2004, 12:08 AM
Your quote may well be true, but its not the second amendment to the US constitution. In fact, it does not appear to be an emendmetn at all. Article I usually means the body of hte document, not an amendment. I have very little knowledge about state constitutions. A little about Mass, TN and now GA. I am under the impression, however, that nearly every state constitution has a provision in some way similar to your quote.

As I said, the states may limit (or make ownership of a right) as they see fit. The second amendment neither applies to nor prohibts a state from limiting gun ownership. States may, however, voluntarily choose in their constitution to grant a right similar to the second amendment, but they do so by choice, not because of anything in the US constitution.

hank

hank

I'm just showing that our legislature finally came to its senses and invalidated a bunch of county and city laws that were conflicted with the state constitution. You are right -- this is not an amendment -- it is actual law in Virginia.

Peace

hank
07-01-2004, 04:21 PM
Your quote may well be true, but its not the second amendment to the US constitution. In fact, it does not appear to be an emendmetn at all. Article I usually means the body of hte document, not an amendment. I have very little knowledge about state constitutions. A little about Mass, TN and now GA. I am under the impression, however, that nearly every state constitution has a provision in some way similar to your quote.

As I said, the states may limit (or make ownership of a right) as they see fit. The second amendment neither applies to nor prohibts a state from limiting gun ownership. States may, however, voluntarily choose in their constitution to grant a right similar to the second amendment, but they do so by choice, not because of anything in the US constitution.

hank

hank

I'm just showing that our legislature finally came to its senses and invalidated a bunch of county and city laws that were conflicted with the state constitution. You are right -- this is not an amendment -- it is actual law in Virginia.

Peace

I hear you man, I wish the SC had incorporated the Second Amendment. It makes sense that if the right to bear arms is a right, then nobody should be able to infringe it, but they don't ask me these questions. Sorry if it seemed like I was jumping on you about that.

hank

WolverineBlue
07-01-2004, 04:28 PM
no problem -- no offense taken. :D

Royal
07-01-2004, 05:49 PM
Also, for a weapon choice. Go with a Glock 23, or a 26 p-)

Though they have no active safeties, so make sure you get a good holster where the thumb retention strap isnt stiff and will get into the trigger guard and fire a round.

If you want to CC, you want a covert holster, not something with thumb breaks and the like...

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v345/Royalphot/b7c03e6e.jpg

Scrim
07-01-2004, 06:34 PM
Well, I decided to finally apply for one. I live in Fairfax County, Virginia, and I have researched the requirements for obtaining the CCW.

1. Fill out application

2. Proof of Fairfax County residency

3. Take certified gun safety class

Nos. 2 & 3 are easy for me. Number 1 however might be a problem. I was convicted of a misdemeanor (drunk in public -- surprise surprise -- long story) -- does anyone have any prior experience with how the "man" reacts to that sort of criminal record? I have a spotless record other than that little blip. :oops:

****, you guys up in Virginia are repressed man.
Down here in Georgia 1 and 2 only, none of those boring gun safety classes.