Obamaworld - Logic in the Age of Obama

[CPLHUNTER]

Obamaworld
Logic in the Age of Obama.

By Victor Davis Hanson

Are you confused by all that has changed since Pres. Barack Obama took office in January? If so, you’re not alone. Perhaps, though, this handy guide to Age of Obama “logic” might be of some assistance.

1. The Budget. Wanting to cut $17 billion from the budget, as President Obama has promised, is proof of financial responsibility. Borrowing $1.84 trillion this year for new programs is “stimulus.” The old phrase “out-of-control spending” is inoperative.

2. Unemployment. The number of jobs theoretically saved, or created, by new government policies — not the actual percentage of Americans out of work, or the total number of jobs lost — is now the far better indicator of unemployment.

3. The Private Sector. Nationalizing much of the auto and financial industries, while regulating executive compensation, is an indication of our new government’s repeatedly stated reluctance to interfere in the private sector.

4. Race and Gender. Not what is said, but who says it and about whom reveals racism and sexism. For example, a Hispanic female judge isn’t being offensive if she states that Latinas are inherently better judges than white males.

5. Random violence. Some assassinations represent larger American pathologies, but others do not. When a crazed lone gunman murders someone outside the Holocaust Museum or shoots an abortion doctor, we should worry about growing right-wing and Christian extremism. But when an African-American Muslim convert brags about his murder of a military recruitment officer or an Islamic group plots to kill Jews and blow up a military jet, these are largely isolated incidents without larger relevance.

6. Terrorism. Acts of terror disappeared about six months ago. Thankfully, we live now in an age where there will be — in the new vocabulary of the Obama administration — only occasional “overseas contingency operations” in which we may be forced to hold a few “detainees.” At the same time, ongoing military tribunals, renditions, wiretaps, phone intercepts, and Predator-drone assassinations are no longer threats to the Constitution. And just saying you’re going to close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay is proof that it is almost closed.

7. Iraq. The once-despised Iraq War thankfully ended around Jan. 20, 2009, and has now transformed into a noble experiment that is fanning winds of change throughout the Middle East. There will be no need for any more Hollywood cinema exposés of American wartime crimes in Iraq with titles like Rendition, Redacted, Lions for Lambs, and Stop-Loss.

8. The West. Western values and history aren’t apparently that special or unique. As President Obama told the world during his recent speech in Cairo, the Renaissance and Enlightenment were, in fact, fueled by a brilliant Islamic culture, responsible for landmark discoveries in mathematics, science, and medicine. Slavery in America ended without violence. Mistreatment of women and religious intolerance in the Middle East have comparable parallels in America.

9. Media. The media are disinterested and professional observers of the present administration. When television anchormen and senior magazine editors bow to the president, proclaim him a god, or feel tingling in the legs when he speaks, it is quite normal.

10. George W. Bush. Former president Bush did all sorts of bad things to the United States that only now we are learning will take at least eight years to sort out. “Bush did it” for the next decade will continue to explain the growing unemployment rate, the most recent deficit, the new round of tensions with Iran and North Korea, and the growing global unrest from the Middle East to South America.

Once we remember and accept the logic of the above, then almost everything about this Age of Obama begins to make perfect sense.

Source: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDMzZjhhNmUwYmU1YzdkNTExYzU3ZThhZmM3YTI3ZGU=

[Johnny_H02]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dqTrUpmwPg

[LEB101]

have fun america

[Breerman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dqTrUpmwPg
:roll:

Isnt this spam?

[Johnny_H02]

No, it means I stopped reading after rule of logic #4 which deliberately warp the context of Sotomayer's comments. If the article is silly, then so shall be the response.

[Invisigoth]

quality from the nationalreview as usual, good stuff.

[Chulo]

No, it means I stopped reading after rule of logic #4 which deliberately warp the context of Sotomayer's comments. If the article is silly, then so shall be the response.
In context of her judicial decisions and background i think race seems to play a big part of her metanarrative.
Then again, it you disregard everything due to one issue, i dont see how you ever justify any news article, story, editorial or daily interaction.

[SoftLion]

No, it means I stopped reading after rule of logic #4 which deliberately warp the context of Sotomayer's comments. If the article is silly, then so shall be the response.

Umm, please explain.

[Johnny_H02]

Umm, please explain.
Happily, she didn't say "Latinas make better judges than white men" she said that given her background, she can see why she would have perhaps more first hand insight into a given situation due to the fact that most white men don't come from the same circumstances.

That isn't to say that what she says in its true meaning is a right statement, but to deliberately misconstrue what was said to make a faux point is very Fox News-esque.

To say that having a background coming from a environment which in this case was attached to her ethnicity isn't "insight" is just naive. Think of it this way, by the argument of her ethnicity should have NO BEARING at all on her opinions and judgment is like saying that for all intents of purposes a white guy should be the head of the NAACP. After all being African-American shouldn't make someone more understanding of their position thus grant them insight which is helpful because to say so is racist. I realize there is a difference between being head of the NAACP and an appointed judge but she didn't say that latinas are better judges, she referenced her background in hopes it would provide insight that may have otherwise not have been realized.

I think her comments were poorly worded and she should have reconsidered saying what she said, but the media and right-wingers are making a mountain out of a mole hill by saying shes some kind of Latina supremacist.

[Johnny_H02]

In context of her judicial decisions and background i think race seems to play a big part of her metanarrative.
Then again, it you disregard everything due to one issue, i dont see how you ever justify any news article, story, editorial or daily interaction.
That's a valid point, I should have read on through the article.
Most of the **** mentioned is mess created by the previous administration which this one has taken on. How quick people are to forget that President Obama inherited the Economic, Foreign Policy woe's of the United States and didn't create them.

[SoftLion]

Happily, she didn't say "Latinas make better judges than white men" she said that given her background, she can see why she would have perhaps more first hand insight into a given situation due to the fact that most white men don't come from the same circumstances.


No, that is not what she said. She said:

""I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

If one asserts that one judge more often than not comes to better conclusions than another, I classify that assertion to mean that the former judge is a better judge. Therefore, the fourth point in the article, characterizing her statement to mean, "Latinas are inherently better judges than white males", specifically referring to Judge Sotomayor, seems a fair statement.

Obviously, the issue is "what if a white judge had said that, etc, etc." Sexism is Sexism, Racism is Racism. That statement by her contains both.

[SoftLion]

...but the media and right-wingers are making a mountain out of a mole hill by saying shes some kind of Latina supremacist.

She is being nominated for the Supreme Court! Please explain why her being a woman and/or a Latina will allow her to come to better conclusions, and how she will avoid legislating from the bench if that comment, however flippant, does provide insight into her judicial outlook.

[SoftLion]

How quick people are to forget that President Obama inherited the Economic, Foreign Policy woe's of the United States and didn't create them.

- Oh Lord.

[Johnny_H02]

Obviously, the issue is "what if a white judge had said that, etc, etc." Sexism is Sexism, Racism is Racism. That statement by her contains both.

The part of this post I didn't quote, I think I addressed it seems we just differ in opinion on what the message was. This however I am willing to see you on, I think if a white judge were to make similar remarks when in a position of being a member of a visible minority that is routinely judged and prosecuted by the ruling majority the statement would still hold weight regardless of who's skin colour the messenger was.


She is being nominated for the Supreme Court! Please explain why her being a woman and/or a Latina will allow her to come to better conclusions, and how she will avoid legislating from the bench if that comment, however flippant, does provide insight into her judicial outlook.
I think that maybe I'm giving her too much lee-way, I'll admit that but I don't see her saying she would in every situation make a better conclusion because of her race, that would be a blanket statement. However denying the fact that because she comes from a different background that she brings perhaps views different from the common norm is silly, of course peoples ethnicity and backgrounds influence how they see the world through their own experience combined with education. I could be giving her more wiggle room than is warranted but that is the message I walked away with.


- Oh Lord.
So the economic crisis, two wars and a deficit unlike any other seen in American history was created by the Obama administration they were in power to bring the United States into the conditions in which it presently finds itself? If you cannot deny this, then what is incorrect about my previous statement?

[Jobu]

Uh, sorry no.

It was not just a poor choice of words on her part. This was a common theme in her speeches and she repeated that very line many times. She obviously meant exactly what she said, and yes it is a racist statement.

If you truly believe she is so stupid as to not word her recurring argument properly, how the **** is she going to write opinions for the Supreme Court?

[SoftLion]

So the economic crisis, two wars and a deficit unlike any other seen in American history was created by the Obama administration they were in power to bring the United States into the conditions in which it presently finds itself? If you cannot deny this, then what is incorrect about my previous statement?

You cannot already pre-blame the potential failure of his administration on W. Well you can, its just bull****. BTW, he is on pace to spend more than any administration, ever, so I take your "deficit" argument with a grain or two of salt. He is running the show, he is nationalizing banks and manufacturing, he is spending in an unprecedented manner, etc. I appreciate that he is making tough decisions, taking a stand on issues, even if I disagree. He will be responsible for those decisions, just like W.

Jennifer Granholm is still blaming John Engler on the sunset of her governorship here in Michigan. The problem is that Jenny just plain sucks, nor is she good-looking.

[Curtis E. Bear]

- Oh Lord.

Learn to edit your posts instead of triple posting.

[budgie]

Obamaworld
Logic in the Age of Obama.

By Victor Davis Hanson

Are you confused by all that has changed since Pres. Barack Obama took office in January? If so, you’re not alone. Perhaps, though, this handy guide to Age of Obama “logic” might be of some assistance.

1. The Budget. Wanting to cut $17 billion from the budget, as President Obama has promised, is proof of financial responsibility. Borrowing $1.84 trillion this year for new programs is “stimulus.” The old phrase “out-of-control spending” is inoperative.

2. Unemployment. The number of jobs theoretically saved, or created, by new government policies — not the actual percentage of Americans out of work, or the total number of jobs lost — is now the far better indicator of unemployment.

3. The Private Sector. Nationalizing much of the auto and financial industries, while regulating executive compensation, is an indication of our new government’s repeatedly stated reluctance to interfere in the private sector.

4. Race and Gender. Not what is said, but who says it and about whom reveals racism and sexism. For example, a Hispanic female judge isn’t being offensive if she states that Latinas are inherently better judges than white males.

5. Random violence. Some assassinations represent larger American pathologies, but others do not. When a crazed lone gunman murders someone outside the Holocaust Museum or shoots an abortion doctor, we should worry about growing right-wing and Christian extremism. But when an African-American Muslim convert brags about his murder of a military recruitment officer or an Islamic group plots to kill Jews and blow up a military jet, these are largely isolated incidents without larger relevance.

6. Terrorism. Acts of terror disappeared about six months ago. Thankfully, we live now in an age where there will be — in the new vocabulary of the Obama administration — only occasional “overseas contingency operations” in which we may be forced to hold a few “detainees.” At the same time, ongoing military tribunals, renditions, wiretaps, phone intercepts, and Predator-drone assassinations are no longer threats to the Constitution. And just saying you’re going to close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay is proof that it is almost closed.

7. Iraq. The once-despised Iraq War thankfully ended around Jan. 20, 2009, and has now transformed into a noble experiment that is fanning winds of change throughout the Middle East. There will be no need for any more Hollywood cinema exposés of American wartime crimes in Iraq with titles like Rendition, Redacted, Lions for Lambs, and Stop-Loss.

8. The West. Western values and history aren’t apparently that special or unique. As President Obama told the world during his recent speech in Cairo, the Renaissance and Enlightenment were, in fact, fueled by a brilliant Islamic culture, responsible for landmark discoveries in mathematics, science, and medicine. Slavery in America ended without violence. Mistreatment of women and religious intolerance in the Middle East have comparable parallels in America.

9. Media. The media are disinterested and professional observers of the present administration. When television anchormen and senior magazine editors bow to the president, proclaim him a god, or feel tingling in the legs when he speaks, it is quite normal.

10. George W. Bush. Former president Bush did all sorts of bad things to the United States that only now we are learning will take at least eight years to sort out. “Bush did it” for the next decade will continue to explain the growing unemployment rate, the most recent deficit, the new round of tensions with Iran and North Korea, and the growing global unrest from the Middle East to South America.

Once we remember and accept the logic of the above, then almost everything about this Age of Obama begins to make perfect sense.

Source: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDMzZjhhNmUwYmU1YzdkNTExYzU3ZThhZmM3YTI3ZGU=

Unfortunately this is mostly -if not entirely - perception based. This is the way the angry Right imagines the left thinks of the new administration. It's merely an echo of their 'messiah' rants during the election campaign, with no solid grounding in the realities of the present.

[CG51]

Learn to edit your posts instead of triple posting.

you maverick you