Who said India is job taker? We also creates job. Ask Us!!!

[Lala_Peace]

Hope, this will keep Mr. Obama away from the protectionism. Hope this will change the mindset of the people in West and some other place where they consider Indians are just there to take away their jobs. This news is not new though; Indians are the forefront of in setting up new enterprises and contributing to US in big way. http://news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=3058405

[BubuTheMonkeyPrincE]

Say what you think but we do steal alot of jobs from west, mainly in the BPO industry, and then so many move abroad to cost them even more jobs, the jobs India creates would be negligible in comparision to the number of jobs India gets from west. Just imagine if our jobs started to go to Bangladesh, Pakistan etc how would we feel? Its the same with them. I don't know what is with the people, i would much rather drive a truck for a living than work for someone else.

[pk977]

Many offshore business, outsourcing job go Indian like intel..............

[oldsoak]

India has a big pool of cheap, semi skilled and skilled labour. This is well and good if you are an Indian employed by the west who want to make use of it, but it means if another cvountry comes up with a better deal, the Indians will find themselves without a job, just as we did. Commercial exploitation, pure and simple and I must confess I dont like the idea of a cheap service being delivered by exploiting some poor devil elsewhere, be it India, UK, Madagascar or Mozambique.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I've been hearing recently about some Indian IT companies starting to outsource work to China. It will be interesting to see how that works.

In the long run it is inevitable that both China and India will start losing jobs to cheaper countries maybe in Africa or elsewhere in Asia (Vietnam or Indonesia?).

It took say 100 years for the process of jobs going from say the UK to India to really get going but with the pace of change now I would say India and China have maybe a decade or perhaps 20 years before they start to lose significant amounts of jobs to other countries.

20-25 years ago the West was worried about losing manufacturing jobs to Japan but look at the state they are in now. Nothing is pre-ordained but if it can happen to them it can happen to India and China.

[Eztyga]

Well they are keeping the filth busy out here...

[Panchito12]

But let's face it, it's not the job giving-taking issue that is of concern to the hi-tech Indian professionals, it's.....the H1B freeze.

[Lala_Peace]

Yeh, this is a vicious circle, but the interesting point here is Indians who depends upon outsourced jobs are hiring US citizens.....I don't think the companies are doing this for cheap labor in USA. Companies of USA are outsourcing for cheap labor, then why India is hiring in USA, it is definitely not a corporate social responsibility. It is most probably due to the efficiency of Indian business entities. Countries like India and China are just starting their long journey and the journey will not only be supported by the effort of cost reduction of developed economies, but also will be supported by its ready made domestic market. So we will have a genuinely longer run in this vicious circle.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Yeh, this is a vicious circle, but the interesting point here is Indians who depends upon outsourced jobs are hiring US citizens.....I don't think the companies are doing this for cheap labor in USA. Companies of USA are outsourcing for cheap labor, then why India is hiring in USA, it is definitely not a corporate social responsibility. It is most probably due to the efficiency of Indian business entities. Countries like India and China are just starting their long journey and the journey will not only be supported by the effort of cost reduction of developed economies, but also will be supported by its ready made domestic market. So we will have a genuinely longer run in this vicious circle.

I'm sure the Americans thought the same thing.

[Lala_Peace]

I'm sure the Americans thought the same thing. I think that will help us not to be overconfident.

[TheOpposition]

I dont mind...Its just I wish LIKE hell you guys wouldn't get Tech Support... My gosh the pain. rofl

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I think that will help us not to be overconfident.

Overconfidence is not a commodity in short supply (at least as far as my own personal observations of India's ruling elite goes).

I have to say that while I like India very much I find the reality of it falls far short of the image.

[Lala_Peace]

Overconfidence is not a commodity in short supply (at least as far as my own personal observations of India's ruling elite goes). Yeh, to some extent true...but Dr. Singh has his hand on the pulse. Some grand standing will be there but that is natural. I believe the regulators in India such as RBI were close to the truth while dealing with recession. One thing I can tell you our private sector is very resilient which has grown without hand holding of the Govt. I think they have the experience and ambition to be optimistic without much Govt. support.
I have to say that while I like India very much I find the reality of it falls far short of the image. That's the way many of my friends also see India. But I consider them bit impatient. We are a young, yet the most complex country in this world. We will take time, but sure about our destination.

[sinophile]

Say what you think but we do steal alot of jobs from west...

Not at all. You can't steal jobs from another country, they are given away.

India and China have made employment their national priority. Laws, taxes, regulations and subsidies all favor job creation - particularly for industries with future sustainability (ie. high tech, energy).

The US has made worker, consumer and regulatory rights its national priority. We have many of the very best laws and tax regimes to ensure the weakest and unrepresented in our society are defended and protected. They will all have their day in court, as is their right!

Yes, its true these protections have caused greedy American businesspeople to move jobs overseas, where they can exploit the undefended workers in India and China. But we don't need or want those exploitive jobs, and we'll find ways to get at the profits of those greedy American businesspeople.

We're working toward a more equal, protected and fair society.

By the way... can you spare a Rupee or a Yuan?

[pg_ord]

Overconfidence is not a commodity in short supply (at least as far as my own personal observations of India's ruling elite goes).
As an Indian I believe there is a lot of truth in that statement. Though there is plenty of potential to be milked in today's youth of India.

[SkyUS]

I dont mind...Its just I wish LIKE hell you guys wouldn't get Tech Support... My gosh the pain. rofl

Ordie once let out a secret. Press 2 for Spanish. And you will get a bilingual Spanish person with very good English. I am doing so for quite a while.

[pg_ord]

Ordie once let out a secret. Press 2 for Spanish. And you will get a bilingual Spanish person with very good English. I am doing so for quite a while.
rofl seriously I know I have difficulty understanding fellow Indians some times on tech support.:oops:

[SkyUS]

rofl seriously I know I have difficulty understanding fellow Indians some times on tech support.:oops:

Ha I just noticed you're from the South too.

[pg_ord]

Ha I just noticed you're from the South too.
South Indian living in the southern US ;)

[Wojtop]

I dont mind...Its just I wish LIKE hell you guys wouldn't get Tech Support... My gosh the pain. rofl

I used to do some Tech Support FOR Mumbai-based Indian guys. That's the ultimate blood pressure booster :)

[s1ggy]

Interesting discussion - particularly as I was told two weeks ago that I have to transfer my job to a new team in Bangalore ;-)
I have worked with Indian Engineers for the past 4 years & in my experience, some are good but the majority are not. That's not a reflection on their skills more an indication of the dynamic job market there. Indian staff just don't stay in one place for any length of time so can't build up their knowledge of the company. Additionally, a lot of Indian guys have unrealistic expectations when it comes to promotion. They all want to be managers within 6 months. It's good to be ambitious but you have to be realistic in your expectations. In fact, my company had to create additional job titles to keep staff, i.e. stick 'senior' in front of an existing title.

I'm not trying to start an argument about who's best here because I really can't be a****d with all that jingoistic rubbish, just explain my experience with off-shoring & working with Indian guys.

[Lala_Peace]

seriously I know I have difficulty understanding fellow Indians some times on tech support. But still people have no option but to call them...that's the reality....

[Narvaresearch]

South Indian living in the southern US ;)

Me too (well kind of). As bad as the Tech guys are, they have specific classes to teach them how to speak "American" accented English (emphasis on sentences etc.). Obviously not all of them pick it up, but at least they're trying.

[dredger14]

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Indian+firms+acquire+143+US+companies,+create+30,000+jobs&artid=Z/4x717EGOg=&SectionID=XT7e3Zkr/lw=&MainSectionID=XT7e3Zkr/lw=&SectionName=HFdYSiSIflu29kcfsoAfeg==&SEO=Indian%20companies,%20acquisitions,%20United%20States,%20job