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fdt
07-02-2004, 03:39 AM
Political cartoons showing the other side of the "DRAGON". Is this already a capitalistic country or just a cyber-feudalism? Peaceful rise... but what happens when it's grown up? People's Republic of China (PRC) .... or Some People Republic of China (SPRC)?

China olympics.
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China cook Jiang Zemin: "We can talk about three things: the garnishes, how well cooked you like the dish and how I should serve it up."
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"One China" gallows: "This set-up is sturdy and flawless. There is no need to fix it."
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The "One China" spider trap
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Taiwan ostrich, pulling its head out of the "Greater China" sand: "Just because my head was in the sand, doesn't mean they (Tibet and Mongolia) don't exist."
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Both KMT and PFP using Chiang Ching-kuo in their 2004 election campaign.
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China, tossing a tin can at Taiwan: "My blind samurai friend will now swing his sword toward the source of the sound."
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US rejoicing at Saddam's capture, while China eats away at Taiwan's democracy.
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US to Taiwan, holed up in burning house: "I oppose your comments and actions aimed at changing the status quo."
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Chinese captain: "Good morning passengers. The pilot-comrade has a confession to make."
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China: "we must keep him quarantined"
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Chinese officaldom to WHO: "SARS will disappear quickly if you use the mask correctly."
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PRC government preventing Chinese people from seeing how dictators can be toppled.
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China frog to Taiwan's election prince: "No matter what you've turned into, you're still part of me."
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Herrmannek
07-02-2004, 03:42 AM
http://www.taiwandc.org/twcom/105-blindfold.jpg
rofl

ch2=ch2
07-02-2004, 03:49 AM
has here been turned into a political issues forum?

b.scheller
07-02-2004, 03:51 AM
Speaking about olympics, the games have in my opinion plumatted in quite a while to a brand new low. Alot of the times, the effort could be there but the organizers don't give their 120%, case and point: Salt lake, Sydney, Nagano. More then likely the Olympics in Beijing will be the best games for quite a long time. Perhaps its because, its due the fact that they will be hosted in a communist nation or perhaps the Chinese try to shock and awe they're guests but hands down it will most likely be amazing.

No offense, but there was no need in repeating what was already said in the cartoon... rofl

fdt
07-02-2004, 04:10 AM
has here been turned into a political issues forum?




http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jun2004/chin-j25.shtml

Chinese military exercise raises tensions with Taiwan
By John Chan
25 June 2004
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China is about to stage a major military exercise near the Taiwan Strait that is certain to heighten already sharp tensions with Taiwan following the island’s recent presidential election. While an exact date is yet to be announced, the Chinese foreign ministry confirmed on June 1 that the exercise would take place in late June or early July at Dongshan Island in Fujian province—just 277 kilometres from Taiwan’s Penghu Islands.

Previous Chinese exercises have focused on crossing the Taiwan Strait and making landings. The stated purpose of the latest military manoeuvres is to practice “taking control of the Taiwan Strait”—that is, to test the ability of Chinese forces to seize control of air space and sea lanes in battles that would, in all probability, involve not only Taiwanese, but US military forces.

Some 18,000 Chinese troops including a tank brigade, will be deployed along with submarines, warships, a cruise missile brigade and Russian-made Su-27 and Su-30 fighter jets. In recent years, the Chinese military has sought to build up its navy and airforce. In a show of force in late April, Beijing sent eight new warships, including a stealth boat carrying long-range supersonic anti-ship missiles, to Hong Kong and into the South China Sea.

While China is currently in no position to challenge the US navy, Beijing’s latest sabre rattling is aimed at sending a sharp warning to the Chen administration in Taiwan not to take any steps toward proclaiming independence. Beijing, which regards Taiwan as a renegade Chinese province, has repeatedly declared in the past that it would intervene militarily against Taiwan in the event of any such proclamation.

Taiwan’s President Chen Shui-ban narrowly defeated the Kuomintang (KMT) challenger in presidential elections in March by making a deliberate appeal to Taiwanese nationalism and threatening to call a future referendum on the independence of the island. In his inauguration speech, however, Chen attempted to pacify Beijing by indicating that he did not intend to make any change to the status quo in the near future.

Chen’s conciliatory comment has not assuaged concerns in Beijing, where sections of the Stalinist bureaucracy are pushing for a more hard-line stance and, if need be, military action against Taiwan.

Sun Shengliang, a scholar from the Taiwan Institute of the official Chinese Academic of Social Sciences, told the Strait Times earlier this month: “Before the end of 2006, we should make solid preparation, even preparation at all costs, so that Taiwanese people will understand that it is not empty words when we say ‘Taiwan independence means war’.”

Last month, the Chinese government declared that it was drafting a “national unification law”. Although its contents and purpose have yet to be made public, the Hong Kong media reported that the law may include measures to conscript civilian resources and manpower to engage in a war with Taiwan.

Some preparations for a more aggressive military stance towards Taiwan are already underway. Ming Pao Daily News, a pro-Beijing newspaper in Hong Kong, reported last month that local militia units had been ordered to be “operationally prepared for war at any time”.

According to the Straits Times, when Chinese Vice President Zeng Qinghong visited Fujian province earlier this month to check on preparations for the upcoming military exercise, he broached the idea of appointing military officers to top provincial posts. His aim was said to be to coordinate provincial resources in the event of war.

On June 20, CNN reported that several Chinese generals had petitioned President Hu Jintao for more funds and “faster war preparation” against Taiwan. A source in the Peoples Liberation Army (PLA) told the Straits Times on June 23 that China was ready for war. “If fighting breaks out tomorrow, we will have enough food for the whole population to last for one year and oil reserves to survive a long drawn-out war,” he said.

China’s tough stance against Taiwanese independence is in part aimed at preventing the growth of separatist sentiment in other regions. If Taiwan were to formally break from China, it would only encourage like-minded movements in Tibet, oil-rich Xinjiang and possibly other provinces.

China’s threats against Taiwan are also a measure of the political crisis in the Stalinist bureaucracy. The huge social gulf between rich and poor that has opened up as a result of so-called market reforms has left Beijing’s claims to represent “socialism” or even to provide for the social needs of the masses in tatters. Its initial encouragement of Western “democracy” among the middle class elite in early 1980s ended with the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989.

The demand for the unification of Taiwan with the mainland is one of the methods of whipping up Chinese nationalism, which is Beijing’s only remaining ideological means of shoring up its base of support.


Washington’s destabilising role

Beijing is also concerned at the US military threat to China. US relations with Taiwan are part of a string of alliances that Washington has with countries bordering China. Since the Bush administration came to power, the encirclement of China has become more ****ounced. Under the guise of the “war on terrorism,” the US now has troops in Afghanistan and military bases in a number of Central Asian republics. It has also strengthened its military ties with India, Nepal and in South East Asia.

During the 2000 presidential election campaign, Bush declared China to be a strategic competitor and, in the immediate aftermath of his insertion as president, adopted a belligerent stance towards Beijing. Following the September 11 terrorist attacks, Washington toned down its rhetoric as Beijing backed the war on terrorism and the US invasion of Afghanistan in particular. But Beijing is legitimately concerned that relations with Washington could easily turn sour.

Indeed some sections of the US political establishment are already pushing for a more aggressive stance toward China. At a Congressional hearing last week, the US-China Economic and Security Commission called on the White House to “conduct a fresh assessment of the ‘one China’ policy” and to step up its military assistance to Taiwan in order to counter China’s military modernisation.

The commission is a bipartisan congressional committee set up in 2000 to conduct a far-reaching review of US-China relations. Any move by Washington to abandon the present “one China” policy, under which Beijing is recognised as the sole international representative of China—including Taiwan—would have a profoundly destabilising effect in North East Asia.

To justify its recommendations, the commission published a report last week portraying China as a serious security threat to Taiwan and the US, a major exporter of “weapons of mass destruction” to “terrorist sponsors” in Middle East, a supporter of North Korea’s nuclear programs and a threat to democracy in Hong Kong.

Urging the provision of more US arms to Taiwan, commission chairman Roger Robinson commented: “Are they [Taiwan] maintaining a proper level of balance with this new offensive force structured by Beijing? The answer to that, in our view, is: No... We simply can’t stand on the sidelines and see any sort of downward spiral in the cross-strait relations.”

Beijing has urged Washington to reject the report, saying it was “full of Cold War mentalities”. But according to John Tkacik from the right-wing Heritage Foundation, a high-level reexamination of the “one China” policy has been underway for months. He told the Taipei Times that a State Department review began prior to Vice President **** Cheney’s visit to Beijing in April.

The commission’s report dovetails with the thrust of the Pentagon’s recently published Annual Report of the Military Power of People’s Republic of China. It claimed that China’s military spending is between $50 and $70 billion a year, making its defence budget the third largest in the world. The Pentagon concluded that China’s development of space technology as well as naval and air power, supported by a rapidly expanding economy, would make the country a world military power in the next 10 to 15 years.

Beijing has accused the US of exaggerating data about the Chinese military in order to justify its own arms build-up against China. Chinese military spending has increased and its forces have access to more sophisticated weapons, but China is in no position to challenge the US militarily now or in the near future. As for the Chinese economy, it remains a huge cheap labour platform heavily dependent on foreign investment and associated technologies.

Calls in Washington for a tougher stance against China can only encourage Taiwan to take a less conciliatory approach to Beijing. Chen recently rejected an offer from Beijing to withdraw its 500 missiles targetting Taiwan if Taipei halted its latest purchases of US arms. He authorised a special budget of $18 billion to buy submarines, sophisticated aircraft and missile systems.

The Taiwanese military retains close ties with its US counterparts. In an already volatile situation, it announced on Monday that it had just finished a six-day computer-simulated war game using a US-designed system, and with the assistance of 60 US military personnel. The defence minister justified the war game aimed against China by saying that China’s rapid military expansion “increased the possibility of China using military force against Taiwan”. A major live-fire drill involving Taiwan’s army and air force is planned for August.

Xingbake
07-02-2004, 04:40 AM
Another sample of how childish and ignorant someone is.

But no mater how you bespatter China, you still have to see the truth that China is growing faster and stronger.

I understand how painful it cause you :D :D :D :D :D

fdt
07-02-2004, 04:51 AM
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fdt
07-02-2004, 04:53 AM
Another sample of how childish and ignorant someone is.

But no mater how you bespatter China, you still have to see the truth that China is growing faster and stronger.

I understand how painful it cause you :D :D :D :D :D

"Inflaming Chinese nationalism is our specialty"
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Xingbake
07-02-2004, 05:00 AM
Another sample of how childish and ignorant someone is.

But no mater how you bespatter China, you still have to see the truth that China is growing faster and stronger.

I understand how painful it cause you :D :D :D :D :D

"Inflaming Chinese nationalism is our specialty"
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OK, then I know you're a WW. :backhand: :backhand:

Ghostwolf
07-02-2004, 05:03 AM
I have another one for the Olympics......

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fdt
07-02-2004, 05:06 AM
Another sample of how childish and ignorant someone is.

But no mater how you bespatter China, you still have to see the truth that China is growing faster and stronger.

I understand how painful it cause you :D :D :D :D :D

"Inflaming Chinese nationalism is our specialty"
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OK, then I know you're a WW. :backhand: :backhand:Thanx for the label... I shall carry it with pride :hug: .

SFontaine
07-02-2004, 05:12 AM
Another sample of how childish and ignorant someone is.

But no mater how you bespatter China, you still have to see the truth that China is growing faster and stronger.

I understand how painful it cause you :D :D :D :D :D

What I wanna know is how did you get on this site? I thought the Chinese government blocked sites that might have a pro-freedom, pro-democracy slant to it.

Ghostwolf
07-02-2004, 05:14 AM
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J-10
07-02-2004, 05:20 AM
OK, then I know you're a WW. :backhand: :backhand:

Hehe, ignore it, they are ill.

ch2=ch2
07-02-2004, 05:26 AM
Another sample of how childish and ignorant someone is.

But no mater how you bespatter China, you still have to see the truth that China is growing faster and stronger.

I understand how painful it cause you :D :D :D :D :D

What I wanna know is how did you get on this site? I thought the Chinese government blocked sites that might have a pro-freedom, pro-democracy slant to it.

Dont worry, "I thought" is all this thread about.

Xingbake
07-02-2004, 05:27 AM
Another sample of how childish and ignorant someone is.

But no mater how you bespatter China, you still have to see the truth that China is growing faster and stronger.

I understand how painful it cause you :D :D :D :D :D

What I wanna know is how did you get on this site? I thought the Chinese government blocked sites that might have a pro-freedom, pro-democracy slant to it.

Hahaaa~~~This question you should ask all the China members on this forum. If you don't believe, you can send mail to someone you know in China and aks him/her to visit this website.

xjym2002
07-02-2004, 06:17 AM
PRC government preventing Chinese people from seeing how dictators can be toppled.
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At least this one is totally wrong.

Hosts of our local TV station were as emotional as me when the scene was aired at the same time around the world.

Though CCTV's host did not seem so happy then.

UoUo
07-02-2004, 06:33 AM
I may have problem with the chinese gov'....but the people of china are great...

fdt
07-02-2004, 06:38 AM
I may have problem with the chinese gov'....but the people of china are great...Agreed...

chengwudi
07-02-2004, 07:11 AM
We lived in the hell originally, why did not I find ? God save me!!
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I think that you should face your media , it is not perfect

duck
07-02-2004, 07:35 AM
The Chinese had to cope with this just 30 years ago. China today is an amazing leap forward compared to that or the colonial period. Give the guys some time...But read the bold part.


"The Cultural Revolution Decade, 1966-76
In the early 1960s, Mao was on the political sidelines and in semiseclusion. By 1962, however, he began an offensive to purify the party, having grown increasingly uneasy about what he believed were the creeping "capitalist" and antisocialist tendencies in the country. As a hardened veteran revolutionary who had overcome the severest adversities, Mao continued to believe that the material incentives that had been restored to the peasants and others were corrupting the masses and were counterrevolutionary.

To arrest the so-called capitalist trend, Mao launched the Socialist Education Movement (1962-65), in which the primary emphasis was on restoring ideological purity, reinfusing revolutionary fervor into the party and government bureaucracies, and intensifying class struggle. There were internal disagreements, however, not on the aim of the movement but on the methods of carrying it out. Opposition came mainly from the moderates represented by Liu Shaoqi ()and Deng Xiaoping (), who were unsympathetic to Mao's policies. The Socialist Education Movement was soon paired with another Mao campaign, the theme of which was "to learn from the People's Liberation Army." Minister of National Defense Lin Biao's rise to the center of power was increasingly conspicuous. It was accompanied by his call on the PLA and the CCP to accentuate Maoist thought as the guiding principle for the Socialist Education Movement and for all revolutionary undertakings in China.

In connection with the Socialist Education Movement, a thorough reform of the school system, which had been planned earlier to coincide with the Great Leap Forward, went into effect. The reform was intended as a work-study program--a new xiafang movement--in which schooling was slated to accommodate the work schedule of communes and factories. It had the dual purpose of providing mass education less expensively than previously and of re-educating intellectuals and scholars to accept the need for their own participation in manual labor. The drafting of intellectuals for manual labor was part of the party's rectification campaign, publicized through the mass media as an effort to remove "bourgeois" influences from professional workers--particularly, their tendency to have greater regard for their own specialized fields than for the goals of the party. Official propaganda accused them of being more concerned with having "expertise" than being "red" .


The Militant Phase, 1966-68

By mid-1965 Mao had gradually but systematically regained control of the party with the support of Lin Biao (), Jiang Qing ( Mao's fourth wife), and Chen Boda (), a leading theoretician. In late 1965 a leading member of Mao's "Shanghai Mafia," Yao Wenyuan (), wrote a thinly veiled attack on the deputy mayor of Beijing, Wu Han (). In the next six months, under the guise of upholding ideological purity, Mao and his supporters purged or attacked a wide variety of public figures, including State Chairman Liu Shaoqi and other party and state leaders. By mid-1966 Mao's campaign had erupted into what came to be known as the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution (), the first mass action to have emerged against the CCP apparatus itself.

Considerable intraparty opposition to the Cultural Revolution was evident. On the one side was the Mao-Lin Biao group, supported by the PLA; on the other side was a faction led by Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping, which had its strength in the regular party machine. Premier Zhou Enlai, while remaining personally loyal to Mao, tried to mediate or to reconcile the two factions.
Mao felt that he could no longer depend on the formal party organization, convinced that it had been permeated with the "capitalist" and bourgeois obstructionists. He turned to Lin Biao and the PLA to counteract the influence of those who were allegedly "`left' in form but `right' in essence." The PLA was widely extolled as a "great school" for the training of a new generation of revolutionary fighters and leaders. Maoists also turned to middle-school students for political demonstrations on their behalf. These students, joined also by some university students, came to be known as the Red Guards . Millions of Red Guards were encouraged by the Cultural Revolution group to become a "shock force" and to "bombard" with criticism both the regular party headquarters in Beijing and those at the regional and provincial levels.
Red Guard activities were promoted as a reflection of Mao's policy of rekindling revolutionary enthusiasm and destroying "outdated," "counterrevolutionary" symbols and values. Mao's ideas, popularized in the Quotations from Chairman Mao, became the standard by which all revolutionary efforts were to be judged. The "four big rights"--speaking out freely, airing views fully, holding great debates, and writing big-character posters --became an important factor in encouraging Mao's youthful followers to criticize his intraparty rivals. The "four big rights" became such a major feature during the period that they were later institutionalized in the state constitution of 1975. The result of the unfettered criticism of established organs of control by China's exuberant youth was massive civil disorder, punctuated also by clashes among rival Red Guard gangs and between the gangs and local security authorities. The party organization was shattered from top to bottom. (The Central Committee's Secretariat ceased functioning in late 1966.) The resources of the public security organs were severely strained. Faced with imminent anarchy, the PLA--the only organization whose ranks for the most part had not been radicalized by Red Guard-style activities--emerged as the principal guarantor of law and order and the de facto political authority. And although the PLA was under Mao's rallying call to "support the left," PLA regional military commanders ordered their forces to restrain the leftist radicals, thus restoring order throughout much of China. The PLA also was responsible for the appearance in early 1967 of the revolutionary committees, a new form of local control that replaced local party committees and administrative bodies. The revolutionary committees were staffed with Cultural Revolution activists, trusted cadres, and military commanders, the latter frequently holding the greatest power.

The radical tide receded somewhat beginning in late 1967, but it was not until after mid-1968 that Mao came to realize the uselessness of further revolutionary violence. Liu Shaoqi, Deng Xiaoping, and their fellow "revisionists" and "capitalist roaders" had been purged from public life by early 1967, and the Maoist group had since been in full command of the political scene.

Viewed in larger perspective, the need for domestic calm and stability was occasioned perhaps even more by pressures emanating from outside China. The Chinese were alarmed in 1966-68 by steady Soviet military buildups along their common border. The Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968 heightened Chinese apprehensions. In March 1969 Chinese and Soviet troops clashed on Zhenbao Island (known to the Soviets as Damanskiy Island) in the disputed Wusuli Jiang (Ussuri River) border area. The tension on the border had a sobering effect on the fractious Chinese political scene and provided the regime with a new and unifying rallying call.

The Ninth National Party Congress to the Demise of Lin Biao, 1969-71
The activist phase of the Cultural Revolution--considered to be the first in a series of cultural revolutions--was brought to an end in April 1969. This end was formally signaled at the CCP's Ninth National Party Congress, which convened under the dominance of the Maoist group. Mao was confirmed as the supreme leader. Lin Biao was promoted to the post of CCP vice chairman and was named as Mao's successor. Others who had risen to power by means of Cultural Revolution machinations were rewarded with positions on the Political Bureau; a significant number of military commanders were appointed to the Central Committee. The party congress also marked the rising influence of two opposing forces, Mao's wife, Jiang Qing, and Premier Zhou Enlai.

The general emphasis after 1969 was on reconstruction through rebuilding of the party, economic stabilization, and greater sensitivity to foreign affairs. Pragmatism gained momentum as a central theme of the years following the Ninth National Party Congress, but this tendency was paralleled by efforts of the radical group to reassert itself. The radical group--Kang Sheng (), Xie Fuzhi (), Jiang Qing (), Zhang Chunqiao (), Yao Wenyuan (), and Wang Hongwen () --no longer had Mao's unqualified support. By 1970 Mao viewed his role more as that of the supreme elder statesman than of an activist in the policy-making process. This was probably the result as much of his declining health as of his view that a stabilizing influence should be brought to bear on a divided nation. As Mao saw it, China needed both pragmatism and revolutionary enthusiasm, each acting as a check on the other. Factional infighting would continue unabated through the mid-1970s, although an uneasy coexistence was maintained while Mao was alive.

The rebuilding of the CCP got under way in 1969. The process was difficult, however, given the pervasiveness of factional tensions and the discord carried over from the Cultural Revolution years. Differences persisted among the military, the party, and left-dominated mass organizations over a wide range of policy issues, to say nothing of the radical-moderate rivalry. It was not until December 1970 that a party committee could be reestablished at the provincial level. In political reconstruction two developments were noteworthy. As the only institution of power for the most part left unscathed by the Cultural Revolution, the PLA was particularly important in the politics of transition and reconstruction. The PLA was, however, not a homogeneous body. In 1970-71 Zhou Enlai was able to forge a centrist-rightist alliance with a group of PLA regional military commanders who had taken exception to certain of Lin Biao's policies. This coalition paved the way for a more moderate party and government leadership in the late 1970s and 1980s.
The PLA was divided largely on policy issues. On one side of the infighting was the Lin Biao faction, which continued to exhort the need for "politics in command" and for an unremitting struggle against both the Soviet Union and the United States. On the other side was a majority of the regional military commanders, who had become concerned about the effect Lin Biao's political ambitions would have on military modernization and economic development. These commanders' views generally were in tune with the positions taken by Zhou Enlai and his moderate associates. Specifically, the moderate groups within the civilian bureaucracy and the armed forces spoke for more material incentives for the peasantry, efficient economic planning, and a thorough reassessment of the Cultural Revolution. They also advocated improved relations with the West in general and the United States in particular--if for no other reason than to counter the perceived expansionist aims of the Soviet Union. Generally, the radicals' objection notwithstanding, the Chinese political tide shifted steadily toward the right of center. Among the notable achievements of the early 1970s was China's decision to seek rapprochement with the United States, as dramatized by President Richard M. Nixon's visit in February 1972. In September 1972 diplomatic relations were established with Japan.
Without question, the turning point in the decade of the Cultural Revolution was Lin Biao's abortive coup attempt and his subsequent death in a plane crash as he fled China in September 1971. The immediate consequence was a steady erosion of the fundamentalist influence of the left-wing radicals. Lin Biao's closest supporters were purged systematically. Efforts to depoliticize and promote professionalism were intensified within the PLA. These were also accompanied by the rehabilitation of those persons who had been persecuted or fallen into disgrace in 1966-68.


End of the Era of Mao Zedong, 1972-76

Among the most prominent of those rehabilitated was Deng Xiaoping, who was reinstated as a vice premier in April 1973, ostensibly under the aegis of Premier Zhou Enlai but certainly with the concurrence of Mao Zedong. Together, Zhou Enlai and Deng Xiaoping came to exert strong influence. Their moderate line favoring modernization of all sectors of the economy was formally confirmed at the Tenth National Party Congress in August 1973, at which time Deng Xiaoping was made a member of the party's Central Committee (but not yet of the Political Bureau).
The radical camp fought back by building an armed urban militia, but its mass base of support was limited to Shanghai and parts of northeastern China--hardly sufficient to arrest what it denounced as "revisionist" and "capitalist" tendencies. In January 1975 Zhou Enlai, speaking before the Fourth National People's Congress, outlined a program of what has come to be known as the Four Modernizations for the four sectors of agriculture, industry, national defense, and science and technology. This program would be reaffirmed at the Eleventh National Party Congress, which convened in August 1977. Also in January 1975, Deng Xiaoping's position was solidified by his election as a vice chairman of the CCP and as a member of the Political Bureau and its Standing Committee. Deng also was installed as China's first civilian chief of PLA General Staff Department.
The year 1976 saw the deaths of the three most senior officials in the CCP and the state apparatus: Zhou Enlai in January, Zhu De (then chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress and de jure head of state) in July, and Mao Zedong in September. In April of the same year, masses of demonstrators in Tiananmen Square in Beijing memorialized Zhou Enlai and criticized Mao's closest associates, Zhou's opponents. In June the government announced that Mao would no longer receive foreign visitors. In July an earthquake devastated the city of Tangshan () in Hebei Province. These events, added to the deaths of the three Communist leaders, contributed to a popular sense that the "mandate of heaven" had been withdrawn from the ruling party. At best the nation was in a state of serious political uncertainty.

Deng Xiaoping, the logical successor as premier, received a temporary setback after Zhou's death, when radicals launched a major counterassault against him. In April 1976 Deng was once more removed from all his public posts, and a relative political unknown, Hua Guofeng () , a Political Bureau member, vice premier, and minister of public security, was named acting premier and party first vice chairman.

Even though Mao Zedong's role in political life had been sporadic and shallow in his later years, it was crucial. Despite Mao's alleged lack of mental acuity, his influence in the months before his death remained such that his orders to dismiss Deng and appoint Hua Guofeng were accepted immediately by the Political Bureau. The political system had polarized in the years before Mao's death into increasingly bitter and irreconcilable factions. While Mao was alive--and playing these factions off against each other--the contending forces were held in check. His death resolved only some of the problems inherent in the succession struggle.

The radical clique most closely associated with Mao and the Cultural Revolution became vulnerable after Mao died, as Deng had been after Zhou Enlai's demise. In October, less than a month after Mao's death, Jiang Qing and her three principal associates--denounced as the Gang of Four () --were arrested with the assistance of two senior Political Bureau members, Minister of National Defense Ye Jianying ( 1897-1986) and Wang Dongxing (), commander of the CCP's elite bodyguard. Within days it was formally announced that Hua Guofeng had assumed the positions of party chairman, chairman of the party's Central Military Commission, and premier. "

Herrmannek
07-02-2004, 07:40 AM
better is enemy of good

SUREFIRE
07-02-2004, 12:09 PM
Similarities can be draw from Iraq & Kuwait in the 1990 and China & Taiwan at present time. Iraq made the bogus claim that Kuwait was part of Iraqi territory as China now is making this fraudulent allegation that it owns Taiwan. We all knew what happened to Iraq. Maybe this time, with China, the free world ought to take a more proactive stance. Yeah, I am talking preemptive strike. Lets do it to China before she does it to us.

PeoplesPoster
07-02-2004, 12:23 PM
Similarities can be draw from Iraq & Kuwait in the 1990 and China & Taiwan at present time. Iraq made the bogus claim that Kuwait was part of Iraqi territory as China now is making this fraudulent allegation that it owns Taiwan. We all knew what happened to Iraq. Maybe this time, with China, the free world ought to take a more proactive stance. Yeah, I am talking preemptive strike. Lets do it to China before she does it to us.

YES LETS DO THAT!!! Jesus are you insane. First of all the situation between China and Taiwan is nothing like Iraq and Kuwait. At least do your research before making wild inane accusations. Second off all a "preemptive" strike against China would be the worst mistake this country has ever made. I hope you enjoy nuclear war because that will be the end result of such an action. And don't think the US is going to sit this one out nice and safe across the Pacific. Although I wouldn't really mourn the loss of the west coast ;) .

Xingbake
07-02-2004, 12:28 PM
Similarities can be draw from Iraq & Kuwait in the 1990 and China & Taiwan at present time. Iraq made the bogus claim that Kuwait was part of Iraqi territory as China now is making this fraudulent allegation that it owns Taiwan. We all knew what happened to Iraq. Maybe this time, with China, the free world ought to take a more proactive stance. Yeah, I am talking preemptive strike. Lets do it to China before she does it to us.

YOu are totally MAD and CRAZY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saranof
07-02-2004, 12:51 PM
To answer to question at the top, china was never a communist country

SUREFIRE
07-02-2004, 01:20 PM
Similarities can be draw from Iraq & Kuwait in the 1990 and China & Taiwan at present time. Iraq made the bogus claim that Kuwait was part of Iraqi territory as China now is making this fraudulent allegation that it owns Taiwan. We all knew what happened to Iraq. Maybe this time, with China, the free world ought to take a more proactive stance. Yeah, I am talking preemptive strike. Lets do it to China before she does it to us.

YES LETS DO THAT!!! Jesus are you insane. First of all the situation between China and Taiwan is nothing like Iraw and Kuwait. At least do your research before making wild inane accusations. Second off all a "preemptive" strike against China would be the worst mistake this country has ever made. I hope you enjoy nuclear war because that will be the end result of such an action. And don't think the US is going to sit this one out nice and safe across the Atlantic. Although I wouldn't really mourn the loss of the west coast ;) .

Deal with evil now or wait til it comes to deal with you. Choice is ours to make.

catchv22
07-02-2004, 01:28 PM
Hey, were you the crazy General in Dr. Strangelove who had a .30 cal in his golf bag? Flouride water? We've been infiltrated by commies! ;)

Secret Squirrel
07-02-2004, 01:30 PM
Similarities can be draw from Iraq & Kuwait in the 1990 and China & Taiwan at present time. Iraq made the bogus claim that Kuwait was part of Iraqi territory as China now is making this fraudulent allegation that it owns Taiwan. We all knew what happened to Iraq. Maybe this time, with China, the free world ought to take a more proactive stance. Yeah, I am talking preemptive strike. Lets do it to China before she does it to us.

YES LETS DO THAT!!! Jesus are you insane. First of all the situation between China and Taiwan is nothing like Iraw and Kuwait. At least do your research before making wild inane accusations. Second off all a "preemptive" strike against China would be the worst mistake this country has ever made. I hope you enjoy nuclear war because that will be the end result of such an action. And don't think the US is going to sit this one out nice and safe across the Atlantic. Although I wouldn't really mourn the loss of the west coast ;) .

Deal with evil now or wait til it comes to deal with you. Choice is ours to make.

no the choice is the politican's to make, and for the people who vote to try to elect who they want to make these decisions; hopefully you dont fall into either category.

b.scheller
07-02-2004, 01:50 PM
The war on terrorism is not yet over and the western world, is looking for new enemies. Why is that? Is it because they want to turn their own people's heads away from what really matters; so they don't see all the problems in their own backyards, rather look at someone elses and see how bad it is there.

:cantbeli:

ezhuang
09-25-2004, 09:21 PM
Please respect my country just as I respect urs.

Marmot1
09-26-2004, 08:17 AM
Please respect my country just as I respect urs.

You mean Australia??? ;) (your location says so)

And yes we respect chinesse ppl... but we simply hate your bloody commie regime...

moughoun
09-26-2004, 08:37 AM
Please respect my country just as I respect urs.

You mean Australia??? ;) (your location says so)

And yes we respect chinesse ppl... but we simply hate your bloody commie regime...

;) nicely put

Ghostwolf
09-26-2004, 09:29 AM
Please respect my country just as I respect urs.

You mean Australia??? ;) (your location says so)

And yes we respect chinesse ppl... but we simply hate your bloody commie regime...

I will second that opinion, and someone tell that idiot to stop polluting Australia.

rodin_hsu
09-26-2004, 11:58 AM
http://lcweb.loc.gov/rr/print/swann/herblock/images/s03462u.jpg


No offense to my Chinese friends. But this pic remind me the alien in ID4 instead of Mushroom Cloud

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/7097/id4.jpg

Oh, God. I hate Mao...

BTW, these Cartoons could be from some Taiwanese pro-independence people. They take any chance to defame Chinese. There's no surprise to see so much hatred and anxiety in these pics.

perdurabo
09-26-2004, 03:11 PM
cartoons are from all over the world fdt finds them and puts them here to show us how other see things, difrent ppl difrent views...

rodin_hsu
09-26-2004, 04:09 PM
cartoons are from all over the world fdt finds them and puts them here to show us how other see things, difrent ppl difrent views...

But 'fdt' could be a Taiwanese, that's why he did the collection.
I make this judgment based on his style. It is similar to the style of some people in Taiwan. They generally assault their rivals indirectly or behind them like a coward. Their despicable behavior style is one reason that I am against Taiwan independent movement.

fdt
09-26-2004, 04:15 PM
cartoons are from all over the world fdt finds them and puts them here to show us how other see things, difrent ppl difrent views...

But 'fdt' could be a Taiwanese, that's why he did the collection.
I make this judgment based on his style. It is similar to the style of some people in Taiwan. They generally insault their rivals indirectly or behind them like a coward. Their despicable behavior style is one reason that I am against Taiwan independent movement.My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

rodin_hsu
09-26-2004, 04:21 PM
My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

Ok! Sorry. You must hate Chinese government a lot.

fdt
09-26-2004, 05:06 PM
My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

Ok! Sorry. You must hate Chinese government a lot.Hate? It'snot a question of hate... I posted somecartoons that are opinions of cartoonists... not mine. i post anti-US, anti-Russian, anti-Polish... and so on cartoons.

aartamen
09-26-2004, 06:09 PM
Hahaaa~~~This question you should ask all the China members on this forum. If you don't believe, you can send mail to someone you know in China and aks him/her to visit this website.


No, I'd rather they visit this site - http://minghui.org/


He-he-he

stardust
09-26-2004, 06:10 PM
cartoons are from all over the world fdt finds them and puts them here to show us how other see things, difrent ppl difrent views...

But 'fdt' could be a Taiwanese, that's why he did the collection.
I make this judgment based on his style. It is similar to the style of some people in Taiwan. They generally insault their rivals indirectly or behind them like a coward. Their despicable behavior style is one reason that I am against Taiwan independent movement.My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

I don''t care what your nationality is! That fact is that you are ignorant about biased against China.

And what are you talking in all those Polish? Where are all those hipocrites who love flaming Chinese when they see someone writing in Chinese?

== The following is to all those ignorant right-wing Chinese-hating racists==

I know now some pk are jumping up and accuse me of "commie bastard". Let me tell you. I am a pro-democracy, communism & Mao Zedong-hating Chinese, Hong Kong Chinese. I just cannot withstand that some trolls won't miss any chance to bash China! ISN'T THIS FORUM "STRICTLY PHOTOS & VIDEO"?!

China is still not great in economy and human rights standard. But she is GETTING IMPROVED every day. And China is difinately not as dogmatic as you ignorants thought (you right-wing racists are much more dogmatic!). When was the last time I heard them talking about "Communism"? More Than 10 goddamn years! They now refer to the economy system as "China styled market economy" not communism!

I know you people know very little, if any, about this "commie" country.

Chinese Communist Party ALLOWS CAPITALISTS to be members nowadays.

The newly rivised Constitution protects PRIVATE ownerships, private enterprises.

The Government has been privatising state-owned enterprises.

The Government encourages and loan money to newly-unemployed to do bussiness.

Young persons are sent to the Western world to study. As far as I know the largest group of students from foreign country in the UK is from China. USA is the second poplular place for Chinese to study in.

Chinese people can travell to Western World as long as they have enough money.

DID the Soviet Union allow all of the above?!

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Just like someone has said in this tread. We respect your countries. We have never ( I haven't seen at least ) attack any country in this forum. And we expect the same respect from this forum.

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Formular 1 Grand Prix China 2004:

http://www.pcauto.com.cn/zt/f12004/f1pho/0409/pic/040927_zhzt_F1_hd_11.jpg

http://www.pcauto.com.cn/zt/f12004/f1pho/0409/pic/040927_zhzt_F1_hd_12.jpg

http://www.pcauto.com.cn/zt/f12004/f1pho/0409/pic/040926_shracingview_03.jpg

http://www.pcauto.com.cn/zt/f12004/f1pho/0409/pic/040926_shracingview_01.jpg


http://www.pcauto.com.cn/zt/f12004/f1pho/0409/pic/040926_shanghaif1_o_m3.jpg

http://www.pcauto.com.cn/zt/f12004/f1pho/0409/pic/040926IMG_1501480eixdd.jpg

http://www.pcauto.com.cn/zt/f12004/f1pho/0409/pic/040926shanghaif1_lin_2.jpg

Mr.Shmucker (spelling?) & Mr.Lam (spelling?) (林志穎). Mr. Lam is a Taiwanese.

Don't let those TIers make you into believing all Taiwanese are Pro-independent. There are at least 2x% Taiwanese are pro-unification.

aartamen
09-26-2004, 06:14 PM
Stardust, read up on what's going on with Falun Dafa. The Chinese might be improving. Talk to me in another 50 years of this improvement.

stardust
09-26-2004, 06:18 PM
My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

Ok! Sorry. You must hate Chinese government a lot.Hate? It'snot a question of hate... I posted somecartoons that are opinions of cartoonists... not mine. i post anti-US, anti-Russian, anti-Polish... and so on cartoons.

I DARE you post tens of anti-US cartoon in the same post in this forum! This forum is full of right-wing Amerians. Let's see what you get.

I am waiting.

Raistlin
09-26-2004, 06:28 PM
I DARE you post tens of anti-US cartoon in the same post in this forum!
Since the search function is not working, I'll have to rely on my memory. If fdt is the one that had a red and white flag avatar before, then he posted LOTS of anti-american, anti-israeli, anti-arab cartoons before.

PeoplesPoster
09-26-2004, 06:35 PM
Stardust, read up on what's going on with Falun Dafa. The Chinese might be improving. Talk to me in another 50 years of this improvement.

**** the Falun Dafa and their dirty cultist ass. Thank god someones putting and end to em.

stardust
09-26-2004, 06:47 PM
Stardust, read up on what's going on with Falun Dafa. The Chinese might be improving. Talk to me in another 50 years of this improvement.

What do you know about falungong? Their members burned themself up several years ago. They don't consult doctors when ill because their sect tell them not to. Shouldn't something be done?

And what did the US Government do to the "David" something sect? What did they do wrong to deserve their compound to be burnt (yeah, they set fire themselves but they wouldn't have done that if the government had not surrounded them) ?

Actually I do not give a damn about what the US Government do to their people. And I am damn sure you don't care what happens to us Chinese! So don't pretend you do.

There are many countries with much WORSE human rights and some of them are even allies of the US. For instance, Saudia Arabia. Why don't you guys go after them? Why doesn't the US government condemn them? Oh, it is because Saudia Arabian government is an ally of the US (even though most Saudis hate America). They allow US to station troops in their country. Double standard. And let me remind you the US government had supported many dictatorships in the past. Many of them did something MUCH WORSE than the current Chinese Government does. And the current Chinese Government has very little or even nothing to do with the massacre in Tianamen Square FIFTEEN GODDAMN YEARS AGO.

Redux
09-26-2004, 07:25 PM
china is vastly improving, and it seems some ppl here assumed china has not changed at all for the last few decades, some of u guys need to be more updated about china's economy and government nowadays.

There seems to be a mindset here of "once a communist country, always a communist country".

seruriermarshal
09-26-2004, 07:34 PM
My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

Ok! Sorry. You must hate Chinese government a lot.Hate? It'snot a question of hate... I posted somecartoons that are opinions of cartoonists... not mine. i post anti-US, anti-Russian, anti-Polish... and so on cartoons.

I DARE you post tens of anti-US cartoon in the same post in this forum! This forum is full of right-wing Amerians. Let's see what you get.

I am waiting.

:roll:

Yeah , I find some pics in this forum .

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18734

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17489

Javehn
09-26-2004, 07:36 PM
Oh , dude , you don't want to piss off the Chinese . They will Kung-Fuk your ass rofl

stardust
09-26-2004, 07:48 PM
My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

Ok! Sorry. You must hate Chinese government a lot.Hate? It'snot a question of hate... I posted somecartoons that are opinions of cartoonists... not mine. i post anti-US, anti-Russian, anti-Polish... and so on cartoons.

I DARE you post tens of anti-US cartoon in the same post in this forum! This forum is full of right-wing Amerians. Let's see what you get.

I am waiting.

:roll:

Yeah , I find some pics in this forum .

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18734

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17489

YOU consider these cartoons ANTI-US? :roll:

seruriermarshal
09-26-2004, 07:55 PM
My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

Ok! Sorry. You must hate Chinese government a lot.Hate? It'snot a question of hate... I posted somecartoons that are opinions of cartoonists... not mine. i post anti-US, anti-Russian, anti-Polish... and so on cartoons.

I DARE you post tens of anti-US cartoon in the same post in this forum! This forum is full of right-wing Amerians. Let's see what you get.

I am waiting.

:roll:

Yeah , I find some pics in this forum .

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18734

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17489

YOU consider these cartoons ANTI-US? :roll:

Some .

ezhuang
09-26-2004, 07:55 PM
Please respect my country just as I respect urs.

You mean Australia??? ;) (your location says so)

And yes we respect chinesse ppl... but we simply hate your bloody commie regime...

I will second that opinion, and someone tell that idiot to stop polluting Australia.

For u guys interest, I am studying here as an oversea student, to learn skills that could contribute to my country. I dont even want to know where u r because u didn't post it, hopefully u knows it.
From my point of view, no government is perfect, not yours not mine. But one would argue that one is better that another, I would think so too, how to measure it exactlly? I dont know for sure, maybe ask its people??? One thing I know for sure is that: Chinese government is improving and getting more and more open minded, I am looking forward to it rather than looking back at it. If we have time to look back at any country's government we could always find flaws. One thing I found most important for China right now is stability and improvement in living standard which current governement brings both that to us, as an citizen I am very greatful for that.

ezhuang
09-26-2004, 08:16 PM
>>>And yes we respect chinesse ppl... but we simply hate your bloody commie regime...

One thing I want to know is why u hate our so-called "commie regime"?
So you do really care about our Chinese's welfare, Am I right?
What does the commie regime did to you that makes u hate it?
As a Chinese citizen, I think my government is not bad, i dont hate it.
why would you???

seruriermarshal
09-26-2004, 08:17 PM
My dear Sherlock,FYI I am citizen of Poland, my nationality is Polish (as well as my parents' and grandparents'... and so on).

Tak więc odpiernicz się i zacznij pracować makówką zamiast szukać wszędzie zapiekłych ideologicznie wrogów Przewodniczącego i jego czerwonych gwardzistów.

Ok! Sorry. You must hate Chinese government a lot.Hate? It'snot a question of hate... I posted somecartoons that are opinions of cartoonists... not mine. i post anti-US, anti-Russian, anti-Polish... and so on cartoons.

I DARE you post tens of anti-US cartoon in the same post in this forum! This forum is full of right-wing Amerians. Let's see what you get.

I am waiting.

:roll:

Yeah , I find some pics in this forum .

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18734

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17489

YOU consider these cartoons ANTI-US? :roll:

You can find more pics , if you search forum .

xjym2002
09-27-2004, 02:17 AM
...... One thing I found most important for China right now is stability and improvement in living standard which current governement brings both that to us, as an citizen I am very greatful for that.

You feel grateful? No doubt you belong to the upper 1% of mainland people, concerning your living standard. But stability? Stability under pressure is dangerous.

I agree our government is no longer communistic, and getting more open-minded. Not bad, I feel just lucky I'm not a North Korean.

ezhuang
09-27-2004, 04:50 AM
...... One thing I found most important for China right now is stability and improvement in living standard which current governement brings both that to us, as an citizen I am very greatful for that.

You feel grateful? No doubt you belong to the upper 1% of mainland people, concerning your living standard. But stability? Stability under pressure is dangerous.

I agree our government is no longer communistic, and getting more open-minded. Not bad, I feel just lucky I'm not a North Korean.

Yes you are right by going overseas have the chance to see how foreign
countries really are like. I dont know what kind of pressure you are talking about but from my point view everyone in this world have pressure on them, trust me life is not easy anywhere. I just feel lucky my country is going up hill not down hill, and looking forwards for further improvements to be made.

fdt
09-27-2004, 04:53 AM
I DARE you post tens of anti-US cartoon in the same post in this forum!
Since the search function is not working, I'll have to rely on my memory. If fdt is the one that had a red and white flag avatar before, then he posted LOTS of anti-american, anti-israeli, anti-arab cartoons before.You forgot to mention: anti-Putin, anti-Bush, anti-Chirac, racist anti-chinese American cartoons on massacring Chinese workers in US in XIX century... and few other topics. :)

about this:


And what are you talking in all those Polish? Where are all those hipocrites who love flaming Chinese when they see someone writing in Chinese?

That was put here in Polish just to prove that I am not a "candid Taipei agent" hidden as sleeper in Poland, preparing cantonese duck in some Warsaw restaurant.

perdurabo
09-27-2004, 05:05 AM
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I don''t care what your nationality is! That fact is that you are ignorant about biased against China.

And what are you talking in all those Polish? Where are all those hipocrites who love flaming Chinese when they see someone writing in Chinese?

Stardust are you retarded?? or just biased ignorant?? cartoons from fdt posts arent his works he finds them on net to show how others think if you search you would find abu-garib cartoons, iraqi ocupation, us election, jewish cartoons, palestinian ones ect

seruriermarshal
09-27-2004, 05:10 AM
I DARE you post tens of anti-US cartoon in the same post in this forum!
Since the search function is not working, I'll have to rely on my memory. If fdt is the one that had a red and white flag avatar before, then he posted LOTS of anti-american, anti-israeli, anti-arab cartoons before.You forgot to mention: anti-Putin, anti-Bush, anti-Chirac, racist anti-chinese American cartoons on massacring Chinese workers in US in XIX century... and few other topics. :)

about this:


And what are you talking in all those Polish? Where are all those hipocrites who love flaming Chinese when they see someone writing in Chinese?

That was put here in Polish just to prove that I am not a "candid Taipei agent" hidden as sleeper in Poland, preparing cantonese duck in some Warsaw restaurant.

I find some pics .

;)